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ISIS Is Dropping Bombs With Drones In Iraq (popsci.com)
In addition to rifles, mortars, artillery and suicidal car bombs, ISIS has recently added commercial drones, converted into tiny bombs, into the mix of weapons it uses to fight in Iraq. In October, The New York Times reported that the Islamic State was using small consumer drones rigged with explosives to fight Kurdish forces in Iraq. Two Kurdish soldiers died dismantling a booby-trapped ISIS drone. Several months later and it appears the use of drones on the battlefield is becoming more prevalent. Popular Science reports: Previously, we've seen ISIS scratch-build drones, and as Iraqi Security Forces retook parts of Mosul, they discovered a vast infrastructure of workshops (complete with quality control) for building standardized munitions, weapons, and explosives. These drone bombers recently captured by Iraqi forces and shared with American advisors appear to be commercial, off-the-shelf models, adapted to carry grenade-sized payloads. "It's not as if it is a large, armed UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] that is dropping munitions from the wings -- but literally, a very small quadcopter that drops a small munition in a somewhat imprecise manner," [Col. Brett] Sylvia, commander of an American military advising mission in Iraq, told Military Times. "They are very short-range, targeting those front-line troops from the Iraqis." Because the drones used are commercial models, it likely means that anti-drone weapons already on hand with the American advisors are sufficient to stop them. It's worth noting that the bomb-dropping drones are just a small part of how ISIS uses the cheap, unmanned flying machines. Other applications include scouts and explosive decoys, as well as one-use weapons. ISIS is also likely not the first group to figure out how to drop grenades from small drones; it's a growing field of research and development among many violent, nonstate actors and insurgent groups. Despite the relative novelty, it's also likely not the deadliest thing insurgents can do with drones.
In violation of several Samsung patents, I'm sure.
Only with a multiple million dollar registry of every single drone bought and sold in the US can we hope. Otherwise the terrorist will just build them out of raw components anyway and you'll make the entire thing look silly.
or they just buy the drones and pimp it with c4?
Just askin'
Until we nuke these fuckers back to the stone ages. The end is nigh, jackasses.
This reads like a bad anti-drug commercial. SEE WHAT WE F-ING STARTED NOW? Two Words... Jihad Drones! :-D
on woot! for $800 last week. Sure I know it's a refurb, but how long does it have to work?
Suddenly extremely applicable life skills outside of bird hunting.
The is sort of why I'm a little wary about seeing drone tech developed. Much of the advanced functionality you can get is just adding software to common hardware, and once the software exists, it will be copied or recreated. That being said, it is coming regardless.
I suppose you could make drones attack drones, but don't shotguns work better for some of this? I suppose you could arm a drone killing drone with the equivalent of shotgun shells... Might get messy fast though...
i'm suprised it took this long to happen non-sporadically
bad tgings happen somewhere else and unrelated to people here that induces people to write law to their own advantage. It is like the 14th Amendment an Reconstruction Act on an international over-seas cross-country level where Isis writes law onto us based on interpretive dirty dancing.
this was only a matter of time, with IMU's and position sensors so widespread and cheap today, all we can do is to try and restrict export to these countries, but sooner or later it will get out there too.
It's good to see they have an outlet for their creative energy.
Count de Monet...
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Our Nobel Peace Prize President dropped 26,000 bombs (real bombs, not little hand grenades) last year on various brown people (even though we are not at war).
This effort by ISIS is a pittance in comparison.
BTW, has anyone considered that it might be preferable to address their grievances rather than just bomb them?
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Killing people with remote control aircraft, I wonder where they got that idea. They're getting almost as good at killing people as Americans.
This is a great case study.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
We make guns - They make guns. We make planes - they make planes. We make tanks - They make tanks.. etc.. etc.. We make drones - (What do you expect the answer is?)
couldn't they just order their bombs from Amazon, and have them delivered by drone?
What problem? That the Kurds, or other enemies of ISIS are not Islamic enough? Even Obama, stupid as he was negotiating with the Muslim Brotherhood, did not think it worthwhile negotiating with ISIS
Remote control bombs it is WWII technology all over again... how ever will we survive?!?!
Good point. This is precisely the point about the Sharansky Doctrine that everybody missed. President Bush and others around him naively believed that if they unleased democracy in the Middle East, everything would be hunky dory. The factor they missed out completely: Islam. Which is NOT a democratic or pluralistic religion, and which specifically is opposed to democracy in the Quran itself (18:26).
Becoming democratic worked in Latin America and helped those countries like Chile and Argentina become civil societies b'cos there were no other forces undercutting any such pluralistic culture. It's not the same in any Islamic group, as pointed out above. There is no separation b/w mosque and state: Mohammed was both a religious and political leader. The Caliphate was the succession of this dual-role leadership after his death: every Caliph, be it in Damascus, Raqqa, Baghdad, Cairo or Istanbul, was considered both a religious and political leader of all Muslims. It ended in 1924, and the current internecine war b/w Muslims is whether a new one is needed, and who'd lead it.
The other thing about Muslims is that they are not live and let live people. We've seen it in Iraq, where the long persecuted Shias started persecuting Christians, Sunnis and anyone else once the US handed over power to a democrat i.e. Shia government (since they are the majority in that country). Similarly, when Aleppo first fell to the 'rebels' - the Free Syrian Army, they made it a point to either murder or drive the local Christians out of the city. It's not that the persecuted groups anywhere - be it Sunnis in Syria, Kurds in Syria or Iraq, Shias in Iraq, Houthis in Yemen or anyone else - would simply like to be left alone: they want to replace the oppressors and switch roles altogether, so that their respective brand of Islam is recognized as the 'true Islam'. Incidentally, that's what it means in every country: in Iran, it would be the Islam as laid out by the Ayatollahs, in Iraq, it's Shia Islam, since Shias are 60%, in Saudi Arabia, it's the Wahabis, in Oman, it's the Ibadis, and so on. Which is why you have these wars of domination in most of these countries.
This is why you are right: not only is it none of our business, but also, it is something we cannot solve. As infidels, we have nothing to gain in which Islam ends up on top. In fact, given that all of Islam is about hatred of everything 'un-Islamic', the best thing to do is to get out of there and let them fight each other like the 2 cats of Kilkinney. Just bar the doors so that their refugees can't flee to non-Muslim lands spreading their mayhem there, like they've done in Germany and Austria. As long as that happens, just let them go at it. Any of their beauties wants to upload their carnage on Facebook or Twitter, let them, but as a policy, make it clear that it's their war, not ours. Any US journalist is stupid enough to go there, leave them there, and let them be converted to Islam or beheaded or both.
Another positive side-effect of this: the more they fight each other, the less they have in fighting against us, and causing terror out here. This civil war may be a blight on humanity, but it's a good thing for the non-Muslim world that instead of fighting the rest of us, they are busy on each other.
May all sides in this conflict win. And lose. Or whatever
That battlefield has 3 battles: Destruction of a death-cult government, control of Iraqi oilfields, leadership of Syria. The biggest players (US coalition, Russia) are really fighting over Syria, much like the cold wars of yesteryear.
drone-a-gram!
Wait until you see the first US casualty. Then the drone-on-drone war will begin.
And if we didn't make profit from guns sold overseas, well then.
Everyone thinks "phantom 4" but clicking on the link they're scratch built foam planes that seem to be manually operated.
Which makes sense: way cheaper and easier to make, more range, and they will work even when GPS is off.
Basically, anything that flies without a human in it called a drone these days.
This is not a drone, it is R/C model!
Not trying to be insensitive here but I wish people would stop being so lazy and type "Islamic State" instead of ISIS. Your laziness is ruining a beautiful female name and makes a lot of women called Isis very uncomfortable.
They have different reason and different goal, the one in Pakistan we bombed often had nothing to do with ISIS, a part of them wanted to have a government which has sharia based laws (something supported by the majority of the population by the way , no matter how much WE dislike it) and also want the US to butt out of Pakistan and stop "helping" the Pakistani Military. Then there are the one which used Pakistan as a staging area for other places.
No matter what it is an utter shame that we are using instrument of war, for what essentially is punishing pre-crime in many cases : many of those killed may have planned , or have been trained, but did not yet do anything.
Technically yes, they get 72 drone operators.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If they started now, they are not as smart as I thought they were. The materials to buy drones and now even to buy complete drones are so obvious, I wonder why they only start now.
Is this because they are really ineffective and they use it as a last straw? Or is this now news to push some other agenda?
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Which manufacturing capacity does ISIS have left? Which engineers have not yet run away from the sinking ship?
Someone is using ISIS as a test run for their latest toy, and it's not the Russians (they would test by themselves). Expect the US or some of its allies to use weaponized small drones in the next war against the next terrorists, the result of "years of military research".
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PULL!
It just took the tech this long to reach 'consumer grade' threat level. And it also doesn't help with state actors who can lob them at you from 20k+ feet, or over the horizon :(
Still a fun pasttime.
Don't they know only the USA is allowed to murder people with drones without consequences!
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