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Tesla CEO Elon Musk Joins President Trump's New Manufacturing Council (electrek.co)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Electrek: Tesla CEO Elon Musk was already on President Trump's Strategic and Policy Forum, but the White House announced today that he will also be joining the administration's new manufacturing council, a private sector group that advises the U.S. secretary of commerce. He headed a meeting on Monday at the White House. Musk was present along with several other industry leaders who are now also formally joining the manufacturing council. CNBC reports: "The group of business leaders includes Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk and chief executives of large American companies like Ford, Dow Chemical, General Electric, Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Richard Trumka, president of the labor federation AFL-CIO, will also give advice." As we recently reported, while Musk's mission to accelerate the advent of renewable energy might seem at odd with Trump's plan to unlock fossil fuel reserve, but Musk is betting that job creation is more important to the new President than simply satisfying the oil industry. If Trump wants to be the champion of job creation and Tesla shows that renewables create a lot of jobs, then their interests are aligned. Tesla currently employs over 30,000 people, more than 25,000 of which are in the U.S. The company wants to add over 3,000 manufacturing jobs at its factory in Fremont, California, 1,000 at its solar panel factory in Buffalo, New York, and over to 6,500 at the Gigafactory in Nevada.
On the one hand, Trump is so terribly awful that any sort of support of him is problematic and dangerous. It risks becoming swept up in his complete disregard for facts or decency. On the other hand, having a few people involved like Musk are very sane and wealthy enough that Trump will listen to them (wealth being apparently one of the very few things he cares about), and might be positive moderating influences.
We're going to build a YUGE hyperloop from the White House to the Kremlin, and CNN is going to pay for it! It's going to be the best, believe me.
Fucking American putting America before his tribalism and support of the causes which you support which must be the right ones. How horrible a person he must be.
Better the devil you know, keep your enemies closer etc.
So, instead of having someone pretty sane, very intelligent, and has figured out solutions to problems which which have stumped many others, we should isolate Trump and only let the crazies and idiots talk to him?
He needs all the help he can get. I loathe Trump, but if Elon can get his ear maybe he'll listen to someone with some sense.
Stop being such an absolutist. You're not making anything better.
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Seeing the heads explode for all the deranged Trump haters who also are Elon fanbois - both very common /. denizens.
Oh, the hilarity!
Tesla employees in the U.S. around 25,000. Target employees about 347,000. Walmart at least 1.4 million. Tesla hiring a few thousand more people sounds super but it's time to get real.
...it's as if a million progressives' heads exploded.
Yeah, clearly working with the duly elected president in order to try to steer policy in the right direction is a very bad move. He obviously should just whine about it for four years and watch as the status quo continues or gets worse. After all, what good could come of having the opportunity to explain to the president why he's wrong, and how the country could benefit from renewable energy and electric vehicles?
FYI: when you are hoping Trump fails, you are hoping for your own failure. Gee, did you think that you would be unaffected?
When I see the word, "DRUMPF", I know another unhinged asshole is on the loose.
This is a guy who has no problem wielding the power of the presidency against companies that rub him the wrong way. It's a hostage situation, not a negotiation.
Holy shit! Tesla alone employs almost as much people as 20% of the entire oil and gas extraction workforce!!!
https://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iag211.htm
I'm sure Elon's advice will be to keep those subsidies coming!
5$ Bn. so far....as they say, not bad for Govt. work.
http://www.latimes.com/busines...
Maybe Elon can offer Trump the opportunity to make America great by being the first passenger on a manned SpaceX mission.
You are welcome on my lawn.
No, this is very clearly an example of, "When they go high, we go low."
Quit complaining about how others are bettering their lives that incidentally make their lives more unequal from others and work on bettering your life and incidentally make your life more inequal from other. That's what this general complaint boils down to. When people focus on equality, the result is that everyone's life is worse off.
You jest, but the parallels between the wall and the hyperloop are not skin-deep. Both are naive measures that are touted as magic bullets that won't cost us a dime / will pay for themselves, but in reality they will have mediocre effects. And they'll both end up costing at least four times more than the initial quote.
Are we allowed to say this out loud yet? Or has Musk finished upgrading the RDF he has on loan from Jobs' estate?
I knew that I personally wouldn't be experiencing much winning as a result of Trump, but the people opposed to him the most oppose any person winning more than any other person so they put roadblocks in place to prevent it. We are all worse off as a result.
10) Illegal Immigrants now deported by rocket, greatly increases number of tests for rocket landings and speed of deportation.
9) Trump rides in custom presidential self-driving Model X with steering wheel replaced by custom Twitter console.
8) Trump hair dryer now completely battery powered and can operate to 1000 degrees.... C.
7) Any time Republicans disagree with Trump, forced to come over and watch hours of taped footage of Musk unveiling products.
6) Any time drug dealers are cornered and will not emerge from imposing drug fortress, hours of taped footage of Musk unveiling products is projected through windows and audio tuned to frequency of fortress walls.
5) Nuclear weapon implosion stage upgraded from high explosives to 100% solar fusion initiation.
4) Taking after Obamacare mandate, all citizens forced to enter into contract with Solar City.
3) On a very special season of The Apprentice, final candidates for first U.S. Mars mission are selected. All Democrats and most of Hollywood immediately applies.
2) All Model 3's now ship with gold interior, including the leather.
1) Hyperloop runs along the entire top of Mexico wall. Better be able to scale it un under 30 seconds before the next Loop pod comes screaming by!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It seemed like a week of abject incompetence, retardation, and national embarrassment..
But I guess uneducated racists aren't really able to tell the difference between winning, and failing, as long as their racist scam artist panders to their bigotry and retardation...
But it's an art project! How else would we see livestreams of Sharia checking out some dude's junk?
Right. If your companies depend on billions of taxpayer's money, it's vital to be on good terms with those who decide where taxpayer money goes to.
i'd rather see engineers being paid by government, than feminist government employees. Disclaimer: I am not an 'Merican'.
Yes, your stupid sand n1gger obama is a racist and a total piece of shit. I agree.
Probably Trump's biggest weakness is that he lacks knowledge about policy issues. He's a real estate developer, not a policy wonk or career politician. He's also impulsive, saying things without thinking carefully about the consequences, but his lack of information is probably his biggest weakness.
On the other hand, he's an effective manager who gets big projects done.
Therefore, we can expect him to do big things - sometimes the wrong things. However, he's shown the ability to (sometimes) listen to experts around him. For example, he's said that while he disagrees with Secretary pf Defense Mattis, he's going to defer to Mattis in those areas because Mattis is an expert in the field. Mattis obliged defense better than Trump does, amd Trump recognizes and respects that fact.
Given that Trump is in fact president (unfortunately), the best we can hope for is that he gets good advice from people who know a subject well, the advisers tell Trump which projects need to get done, then Trump uses his skills to get those projects completed.
No, American corporations have never got rich by supporting tyrants, despots, and thoroughly despicable people. America is great and Elon Musk is America's saviour.
i'd rather see engineers being paid by government, than feminist government employees. Disclaimer: I am an asshole.
Fixed that for you.
Yup, yup. -1 Troll, -1 Offtopic for daring to imply that Elon Musk might not be superlatively sane.
Yes, cheer for DT to succeed. Disrupt the echo chamber of sycophants with competent people of power and influence that DT can respect and that are visionaries grounded in science such as Musk.
WARNING!
Another paid Russian Troll!!!
on short-term fame grasping for more money even when it kills other people. Fuck Trump. Fuck Musk.
It is the fucking tea baggers that hate musk. Go back to getting your head banged against the wall by the kock Bros.
Meh... Engineers are useful for more than fucking and nothing.
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No they don't.
Of course he is. Elon Musk is the poster child for "corporate welfare."
1) Trump puts 20% tax on Mexican imports
2) Imports increase in price to account for same
3) We, the American consumer, pay the increased price
4) Wall is paid for. By American consumers.
That is the plan.
Mexico is not going to pay. We are going to pay.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
4) Taking after Obamacare mandate, all citizens forced to enter into contract with Solar City.
Crazy, however if you think of all the advantages of a truly distributed electrical generation being a considerable chunk of your total energy matrix, it isn't all that bad of an idea. The redundancy, the backup, the efficiency of close to market generation, about the only two negatives are the amount of capital in the form of loans and incentives, but even energy aside for the amount of local jobs created you could spend you money on a lot of worse things (like a wall). The other would be the amount of maintenance that may be required over the long term with a distributed model, but again that is a lot of local jobs for electricians and installers etc...
Final thought: That mexico wall by design is going to be facing south in what is probably the most sun filled region of the US... Solar Wall? Again, crazy but... maybe.