188,000 Evacuated As California's Massive Oroville Dam Threatens Catastrophic Floods (washingtonpost.com)
Mr D from 63 quotes a report from The Washington Post: About 188,000 residents near Oroville, Calif., were ordered to evacuate Sunday after a hole in an emergency spillway in the Oroville Dam threatened to flood the surrounding area. Thousands clogged highways leading out of the area headed south, north and west, and arteries major and minor remained jammed as midnight approached on the West Coast -- though by early Monday, Lake Oroville's water level had dropped to a point at which water was no longer spilling over. The lake level reached its peak of 902.59 feet at about 3 a.m. Sunday and dropped to 898 feet by 4 a.m. Monday, according to the Sacramento Bee. Water flows over the emergency spillway at 901 feet. "The drop in the lake level was early evidence that the Department of Water Resources' desperate attempt to prevent a catastrophic failure of the dam's emergency spillway appeared to be paying dividends," the Bee reported Monday. Officials doubled the flow of water out of the nearly mile-long primary spillway to 100,000 cubic feet per second. The normal flow is about half as much, but increased flows are common at this time of year, during peak rain season, officials said. But water officials warned that damaged infrastructure could create further dangers as storms approach in the week ahead, and it remained unclear when residents might be able to return to their homes.
Now it's time for Water World!
That's what you get when trying to turn a desert into a water-starved living area.
Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
When I walked into a coffee shop in Palo Alto before 7AM this morning, people were sitting down or standing up while watching the local news about the dam.
This is just another example of how dirty hydroelectric energy generation actually is.
While this is nothing compared to the Banqiao Dam failure (which resulted in almost two hundred thousand deaths), I think it's clear from this that hydroelectric energy just isn't safe.
Let alone the long-term ecological effects from contaminated water.
I urge green activists across the planet to hold the hydroelectric power industry responsible for this glaring oversight!
and for once, that is not a good thing.
considering the state is in a drought half the time. If only there was a way to build a wall or something to hold the water until it was needed.
They are fixing the blister on the emergency spillway as we speak and they are able to drain off excess water on the main spillway for now. The coming week of rain will be the test, but as long as they're able to fix the blister there's really no risk of the damn "failing catastrophically" - and if the blister were to erode the emergency spillway completely leading to an uncontrollable deluge, while VERY BAD, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as the dam failing. Basically it's under control unless xyz happens, which is why they're continuing the evacuation because they can't be 100% certain, and if it did happen, it would happen quickly.
If I were a betting man I'd put all monies on the dam being just fine. They initially thought the spillway was going to slough off completely. It's not going to.
I was watching last week when the bad cracks in primary spillway gave way and limited its use. Of course, that didn't stop Governor Moonbeam last night, who finally addressed the issue at 11pm over a week after we knew this was going to be a problem, from playing politics and blaming global warming. The requirements for the dam were created in the late 1950's, and this hasn't exceeded the design capacity of the dam. The problem is that the damaged spillway can't be used at full capacity because of bad maintenance. Well, maybe even that isn't a strong enough term since the last time the spillway was inspected it was done visually at a distance.
The dam is for water management first, electrical power generation second, and flood control third. You can concern troll about hydro if you want, but it's mostly inappropriate here.
People who say "sheeple" have about as much sophistication as an AOL user, and in fact are probably actually AOL users.
It's interesting that everyone's trying to put a political spin on this, and finger pointing is starting.
First, T supporters say T should only give emergency assistance if CA swears away from "sanctuary cities". CA's response is that CA has always paid into the fed just like every other state, and that one political issue shouldn't be used as a threat against another.
Second, is the reason for not preventing this. There was concern of weakness in the dam's overflow systems going back years. Different experts gave different opinions. It seems it was on the borderline of being problematic, at least on paper. If it's only on the borderline of being a problem, then expensive fixes tend to get ignored.
It may also be a case of "cascading failure" whereby the backup (overflow handling) failed, and then the secondary backup also failed. Sometimes bleep just happens under extreme weather. Other CA damns and water systems held up; the chance of all them working perfectly is slim. If you have hundreds of water systems, at least a few will have notable problems during heavy rains just out of shear probability.
Large dams are probably a thing of the past, in part because they are a single big point of failure, and in part because they screw up the existing state of nature. Smaller sub-dams are the preferred way now, if any. But we still have to maintain the big old ones because many existing dwellings and roads rely on them to work.
Table-ized A.I.
If President Trump really wants to create American jobs I can think of a trillion's worth of core infrastructure projects that are "shovel ready".
ASCE 2013 Report Card for America's Infrastructure[Spoiler: It's a D.]
It’s Time to Fix America’s Infrastructure. Here’s Where to Start
New USDOT Report on Highway, Transit Conditions Reveals America’s $926 Billion Infrastructure Investment Need
I just wanted to post some info before everyone spins this as a partisan failure of one sort or another.
1) The dam was built and is owned by California.
2) California was warned about the potential problem (the one we are currently seeing) in 2005.
3) In 2005, as part of the federal re-licensing procedure for the dam, several groups urged federal officials to require that the dam’s [earthwork] emergency spillway be upgraded to concrete. The federal government declined.
4) The dam was built at a time when requirements were less strict in comparison to today's standards. The dam foundations were dug down to "weathered" rock, which is less structurally sound than "bedrock".
And finally,
5) As much as people feel the need for karma or justice or revenge or whatever, we DO NOT punish people's lives and homes over partisan bullshit. The federal government should (and most probably will) assist in any way that they can to help avoid a disaster.
As has been pointed out by many people, California spent several billions of dollars on the hyperloop while letting this particular bit of infrastructure upgrade get ignored. Both California and the Federal government (viz: the licensing mentioned above) can share the blame for this.
It's another Katrina-like situation: both governments (Cali and Federal) were warned, did nothing, and now it's an emergency.
Also of note, and I'm trying to look at the big picture here and not point fingers, it's been pointed out that the infrastructure in our country has been neglected for a long time (especially roads, bridges, and the electrical grid), and we really need to start fixing up things.
Fixing our infrastructure was one of the campaign promises of the party in power, perhaps this will galvanize them to action.
The issues started to appear in reports about 10 years ago. When the issues became big leaky cracks a few years back, the dumbocrats swept the problem under the rug with government experts saying "no problem!".
Time to pay the debt with interest, Oroville!
So busy declaring their unwavering support for the idea of Global Warming — and its contribution to drought , none of these guys would raise an alarm over the possibility of a flood.
Both have happened before — early settlers in California have died due to drought-induced famine, and 1863 has seen a spectacular flooding, for example.
The science is settled my tail.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
California didn't vote Trump, so fuck those guys.
First, Oroville, California, gets 52 inches of rain per year. NOT a desert.
According to US climate data 30.7 inches of precipitation per year
http://www.usclimatedata.com/c...
which is about 20% less than the national average
https://rainfall.weatherdb.com...
Still: not a desert.
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
Building more hydroelectric plants requires building more dams - dams are dangerous, there's no way around it.
another excuse to raise water utility rates statewide.
That water starved desert grows much of the nations food.
And by "the nation", you mean "China", which won't eat it's own rice, due to the pollution, right?
Guess how many of these quickly build damn dams exist in California.
The next 160 year cycle of Pineapple Express mega-floods is due in 2022. Geologists know the cycles from core sediments, which are indisputable.
Can they retrofit dams in time? Will they even try? Will it make any difference if they do retrofit? Will any bureaucrat get fired? I am betting NO.
Do the dam and water engineers already acknowledge this and the bureaucracy keep quiet on it, just like at Oriville Dam?
snowflake.
So does Mr. Peabody, but he recently declared bankruptcy.
I have an idea!
Why don't we put all the water back into the aquifers we've been taking it out of, instead of letting it out, and down to the pacific?
What a lamentable situation! If only someone could invent something to do that!
Oh. Wait. They did. In 1992.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
1992, though, was 25 years ago.
What a lamentable situation! If only a millennial could reinvent old technology in ignorance, thinking it was new, to do that!
"You are mistaken. Climate change due to fossil fuel is blamed for ALL displacements of people for weather events like flood and drought." That distinction is critical, and not maintaining the distinction is intellectually dishonest. History is full of records dating back thousands of years describing floods and droughts which caused mass migration, famine, and all of the illness that comes with those things. Those are not from "fossil fuel", but normal natural events.
Rational discussion with people who are intellectually dishonest is a fruitless pursuit, which is why there are so many fervent skeptics. Passing blame and claiming everyone should pay taxes with no plan of action has resulted in absolutely no progress on real issues from Fossil fuels, like pollution. The barrage of appeals to emotion and "nuh uh" responses get us nowhere.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Politicians like Jerry Governor Moonbeam Brown and his Cal Water Authority Engineers are costing legal citizens of California a lot of money and property for their bumbling and direct creation of the Oroville Dam crisis.
First, the Oroville Dam crisis was created 3 years ago when Gov Moonbeam agreed with his Human Global Warming Alarmists in D.C. to stage an event, The Great Drought of California. Southern California is a semi-arid desert and has been for at least the most recent 3-million years and in the last 50-million years have cycled from tropical to semi-arid conditions as known form geologic evidence. However, to appease the GW alarmists Gov Moonbeam imposed water reductions to the LA basin to exacerbate the political climate to force through his Communist political agenda. Trouble is to do that the dams in northern California had to withhold water outflows to the water redistribution system by the Cal Water Authority and the LA Water District Authority (collusion and cash bribes to officials) which caused the northern California reservoirs, like the Oroville Dam, to gain water. Then the La Nina phase of ENSO happened -- i.e. heavy rain/snow totals. Result, northern California reservoirs like the Oroville Dam are over capacity and near real catastrophic failure, Oroville Dam being the first of many.
Who is to blame for the Political Catastrophe?
Jerry Governor Moonbeam Brown! And his happy get-some lucky California Water Authority Engineers.
High density power sources generally are.
If the levee breaks and washes away the legislature in Sacramento is that carbon positive, neutral, or negative? What about the snail darter and silvery minnow?
"I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
The people of California believed the global warming lie that their debt would never end, and they cut funding that should have gone to pay for spillway maintenance.
Bonus points for anyone who can find the original stories that said California was cutting spillway maintenance funds because they would never need the spillways given that global warming was going to cause a never ending drought.
New and shiny will always attract funding. Old and boring, not so much.^W^W^W^W^W^W^W Corrupt politicians don't care about people once elected, they care about more power.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
As far as I know, the Banqiao Dam was build for flood control.
Wasn't long ago you were crying for water. Now you got it.
Based on what I've read, which is various reports and images from anywhere in the timeline, this is what it sounds like has happened (from someone who lives 1000's of miles from CA). Please correct or verify where needed:
-Lake O was way down due to drought
-Lake O is now under massive flooding with more massive rain expected next week
[These should be in chrono order from top to bottom]
-Operational Spillway opened to reduce lake level
-Operational Spillway's base / floor cement fails making a big scour under & toward the dam side of the spillway. Water is going out the scour or down the spillway. Sides of spillway are intact and this is about halfway down the chute (not a direct threat to retaining wall unless scour goes back that far)
-Operational spillway shut down for eval. Engi's indicate emergency spillway may come into operation during inspection due to rising lake level
-Authorities try to quickly clear trees and rocks in emergency spillway's path
-Emergency spillway begins to discharge
-Emergency spillway has failure "blister" in the spillway up on the retaining wall--failure would mean retaining wall faliure
-Evacuations ordered
-Operational spillway put back into usage despite damage at 2x previous capacity, since lower chute failure isn't as bad as retaining wall failure
-Emergency spillway stops discharging due to lower lake level
-Operational spillway stopped temporarily for analysis--image indicated entire chute structures where the hole was is now gone
(http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/13/damaged-emergency-spillway-at-nations-tallest-dam-forces-massive-evacuations-in-california.html)
-Operational spillway reopened, images look like the bottom portion of the chute is partially or totally disintegrated.
(http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/231931/complete_failure_imminent_oroville_dam_spillway_in_danger_of_failing/)
When the Banqiao dam system failed in 1975, killing 230,000, the hydro lobby's excuse was that because Chinese dams were built to different design standards from the US, such an accident could never happen here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
But this failure of a modern American design means that the hydro lobby has finally run out of excuses. No matter how up-to-date the design, no dam is walkaway safe. No large project can be built without the possibility of corner-cutting by some person at some time. Some of this country's largest dams are approaching 80 years of age, and there are no provisions for dealing with the costs of eventual decommissioning. And after all these years, nobody knows how to deal with the increasing amount of leftover silt.
The government should build evacuation cities. This City should be able to hold three hundred thousand to a million people for up to a month at a time. Maybe instead of a fence along the Texas border they should build one long Motel.
Maybe we should get it from Florida, instead of the ecological disaster which is California's water laws. And, entitled turd, you don't actually need fresh tomatoes in January. People lived quite well before they had engineered fresh fruit out of season.
This is terrible. I guess since they want to secede they won't be asking for federal dollars?
Regardless of the cause, the task for us now is certainly to tear down and replace this dam. Not a problem, an opportunity to see what we can do better this time. Spend the money, endure the inconvenience, pay the price and get the job done.
Electricity is dangerous. I've seen video of Edison killing elephants just by touching them with wires!
Why on Earth would I want to spend money testing a Backup Solution that we'll never use?! Did you forget that California is in a drought???
At least the people of Oroville got a warning.... :P
For years, client scientists have been saying that AGW will bring about more droughts and more floods.
The question this brings to mind is "who's clients are the scientists?"
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
It's a reservoir to hold water long-term and supply it as-needed. During heavy rains, it fills to avoid flooding downstream since the rain will supply the water necessary. During the dry season, water is released downstream for supply.
There is a separate mechanism that releases water when the reservoir gets full. There's only so much flood protection you can provide with a fixed-size reservoir and massive rainfall.
Freedom to fear. Freedom from thought. Freedom to kill.
I guess the War on Terror really is about freedom!
There's actually 2 things going on.
The existing spillway is made of concrete, and suffered some structural damage.
Here is an image of the damage, from a couple of days ago, and here is that same spillway today.
The lower half of the spillway is probably completely gone. The raging water might erode up to the level of the dam, but that's not likely.
The actual problem was the emergency spillway, which is an earthen bank to the left (looking up to the dam) of the regular spillway.
You can see the damage in this image. Note that one of the eroded canyons reaches almost up to the level of the water.
If the erosion had reached the emergency spillway it would have burst, releasing a whole lot of water downstream.
Here's a closeup, and note the middle lower portion of the image. We were that close to a breech.
That didn't happen, and the waters are now below emergency levels.
However, the situation is rather precarious and the emergency spillway could still burst. There's still a lot of water still coming in to the reservoir, which is being frantically lowered.
(And yes, I wrote "Hyperloop" when I meant "High Speed Rail" above.)
The spillway failed due to a construction issue. Had it not failed, its capacity would have been adequate.
I believe you are confusing the [concrete] regular spillway with the [earthen] emergency spillway.
The concrete spillway is gone, but this doesn't seem to be a safety issue.
The earthen emergency spillway eroded almost all the way back to the berm, which would have resulted in a dam breech. That's what everyone is worried about.
I posted an update response above, with images.
This is why California's increasing interest in secession is laughable. Not to mention California's state debt, unfunded future liabilities, and bankrupt cities.
See also the left screaming, "Racist!" the last time anyone else floated the idea of secession.
What does safety have to do with "dirty"?
And the dam was built for flood control, not power, the power was just added later, because they could.
Learn to love Alaska
"Sometimes bleep just happens under extreme weather."
There was no extreme weather, not even unusual. It rained...duh....the dam filled up....duh...planned and designed water release spillways partially failed when used as intended.
You can control many of the negative aspects of hydroelectric, nuclear, wind & solar. The negative aspects of fossil fuels however (co2, arsenic, mercury, lead, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide) by their very nature however are next to impossible to contain. You can contain nuclear materials, evacuate before a dam failure, etc, but you can't exactly collect all of the nasty crap coming out of your tailpipe.
At least as far as stuff like fruit and leaf crops, not having as much mold (like right before harvest) which causes rot and destroys the crop's commercial value is a big reason CA agriculture has been so successful compared to places that get a lot of rain like the US South East. It turns out it is easier to deal with the lack of water (by taking it from others) than deal with the risk of rain at the wrong time. Indoor agriculture may change that eventually though.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
You can't add a hydro plant after the fact. All dams are at least dual purpose, just one is primary.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Most idiots think the drought was due to natural causes.
Jim Stone has proofed the so called drought was man made.
jimstone.is
THERE IS NOW EVIDENCE THE OROVILLE DAM SPILLWAY WAS BLOWN WITH EXPLOSIVES
The engineers are totally confused at what happened, and are saying they can't explain it because "it was not supposed to do that". That is engineering lingo for "there is something seriously unexplained here". Yeah, like 2,000 pounds of high explosives.
They probably will not be able to make the mental leap to that conclusion however, because, you know, the brain wash.
A giant dam in Northern California (the largest dam in the United States) suffered a major failure in its spillway when it was operating at 28 percent output capacity. Forget what others are saying about how "huge" the outflow was because the outflow from this particular dam is always huge. Some say it was at 60,000 cfs when it failed, others say it was at 70,000 CFS when it failed, but when it can handle 250,000 cfs that's just a trickle no matter how huge it looks on camera.
I strongly suspect it was destroyed by a bomb by communists and subversives in California's government. I find it extremely odd that this enormous water resource has been crippled right when it could save California agriculture after an extended and proven fabricated drought, which absent the draining of the dams on purpose would have meant nothing. It is proven that the dams were drained in the name of giving tons of water to a fictitious fish called the "delta smelt", which was an invasive species dropped in the Sacramento River delta by settlers 100 years ago. It does not belong there anyway, so saying it is endangered is pure fiction, and nothing but an excuse to destroy California. A textbook communist tactic.
Due to the well proven fact that California has been over-run by subversives who fully intend to destroy America, I believe it is perfectly rational to state a high but unprovable probability that the destruction of the spillway at the Oroville dam was done with explosives. "Made In America" does not fail at 28 percent capacity, "made in America" fails at 300 percent capacity, when this dam was built America usually overbuilt everything by that much. It is irrational to the fringe of lunacy to think that there would be any reason at all, other than intentional sabotage and destruction for this to have happened.
Now the dam is filling at a record rate, and over the last two days has used 230,000 acre feet of it's 500,000 acre feet remaining reserve. My estimate, probably bang on. And the snow runoff season has not even started, with record snowpack. The dam cannot release enough water through the power station to get rid of the water that is coming in, the spillway is needed for this. They can either use the spillway and destroy it entirely, or allow the water to flow over the top of the natural part of the dam (which has trees, roads, it is just basically a mountain) and hope to God the natural materials can handle having that much water running over them. At this time, "that much" is equal to the flow over Niagra Falls. When the spring runoff hits, it will probably be more than that.
My big worry is that even if the natural mountain can handle that, that there are probably additional explosives embedded, that will be set off once enough water is flowing to obscure the blasts. Granted, this dam is in a remote region but it is designed to hold 4.3 cubic kilometers "business as usual" and will be holding (by my estimate) 4.8 cubic kilometers of water when it over tops. That is a recipe for a serious disaster.
To sum it up: There is a very tense situation developing in Northern California that could result in absolute catastrophe. There is nothing the engineers can do, because the hole is 30 feet deep, 100 feet across and 200 feet tall. This will be impossible to fill in only two days, which is approximately how long it will take for the dam to hit 10
Second - yes, this is a 'natural disaster', because that's exactly the term we use when the natural phenomena dump ridiculous amounts of water in a particular location. In other places it produces devastating floods, like last year in South Carolina. Here California was somewhat lucky, because they had a dam like this in place with an empty resevoir that absorbed it - and that wall of water would otherwise be flooding the valley below, along with all the people who live there, and may yet still if the emergency spillway collapses.
If failure to maintain the dam so that it can't cope with unusual (but not unprecedented) rain is a natural disaster, then failure to design your power station so that it withstand an unusual (but not unprecedented) tsunami is a natural disaster.
As a businessman, he is aware of the need to maintain facilities and such - when you fail to do so, your business is eventually damaged.
Typical politicians, on the other hand, love to get a big pile of money and spend it building big new shiny objects they can name after themselves or their buddies and they love to be there for the great PR of a big ribbon-cutting ceremony with big crowds of voters and marching bands.....but there's no equivalent PR kick from maintinaing that big new thing over the following years and actually spending money maintaining stuff takes away cash that could be used on building more new stuff and more new ribbon-cutting ceremonies...
This is California. The politicians get great power from the drought. They formed agencies and committees and wrote laws and rules and regulations to control nearly every aspec of the lives of the citizens based on the drought. All the precipitation this winter has a number of them answering voter questions about relaxing these controls now that the drought has eased and the bureacrats are full of excuses for why the regulations are staying (even down in San Diego where it has emerged that the county was NEVER in drought even as it was subjected to increased water fees and restrictions on water useage).
If this dam fails, it will be a fantastic boon to the bureacrats and politicians who will use it as the excuse to keep all the rules, regulations, laws, bureaucracies, and rationing in place.
There's a reason Why Governor "moonbeam" Brown has been spending billions of dollars on his slowest-on-earth bullet train to nowhere while refusing to spend money maintaining the existing infrastructure like these dams.
Slashdot has been full of liberal/leftist posts for months about how California is such a rich state that it can leave the US and be one of the richest on Earth. California is so full of excess cash that it CHOOSES to spend BILLIONS of dollars per year on illegal aliens.
Of course, CA is totally run by the Democrats with super-majorities in the legislature and all state-wide offices in Democrat hands so much of this is bogus - they keep talking about California providing more money to the US than it consumes, but that's totally phoney accounting: Individual taxpayers in CA pay more to Washington than they get back, but the State as a whole is Trillions in the hole to state government workers' union pension promises. The Democrats running the state also refuse to actually tax the super-rich in any meaningful way since those super-rich (like the Google guys) are nearly all Democrats who donate to the Democrat party and candidates.
Trump should tell governor Brown that as long as he has so much money he [a] can spend it on illegal aliens (even now providing them taxpayer-funded lawyers to fight the feds on deportation) and [b] is not "soaking" Google and Apple (among the richest entities on Earth) he cannot have any federal money.
If you live within a "free market" then you get quantity discounts. It costs a certain amount to deliver any quantity of a thing to you, so as you consume more that basic cost is divided into more and if you consume enough, the vendors will compete for your business an innovate to come up with better/cheaper supplies and delivery methods.
If you live under and form of Marxism, then you get "progressive" price tables, and talk of conservation and "you fair share". These are all just forms of rationing and government control over aspects of your life. No effort to increase supplies or improve delivery will occur because politically-connected interests will oppose that and bureaucrats will not want to lose the control that artificial scarcity and rationing enable.
The left is firmly in control in CA, so we have water rationing, electricity rationing, and even carbon emissions rationing (including not only steeply increasing prices with more consumption but also different prices based on your income, thanks to scaled subsidies), none of which are going to fix anything since they're not actually designed to fix anything; They NEVER use the increeased funds from these higher prices to increase supply.
California is NOT sending ANY money to Washington DC
Individual taxpayers ARE sending their federal tax dollars to DC because they are US Citizens/legal residents. The state is not sending any membership fee to the feds, and the state has no authority to inject itself in between the taxpayer and Washington DC to steal those tax dollars. Should the state seceded from the nation, those taxpayers would still have to pay their taxes to the US Govt (as do Americans working in ANY foreign country) unless each of them also renounced his/her American citizenship, which 60% would not do. The assumption of the nutjobs is that all Californians would renounce thier American citizenship and then agree to a massive CA state income tax increase. The truth is that many Californians would take up arms and eliminate the leadership of California for treason against the Unites States given that many Californians are US Military vets who are armed and took an oath to defend the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
You guys who get your economics and legal education from idiots like Robert Reich and Paul Krugman are positively delusional. Eggheads who are wrong more often than they are right and who thus work at universities and left-wing bird cage liners are no substitute for reality and the actual plaent we actually live upon.
Davis's failed and corrupt party politics on the Democratic side resulted in a successful recall. Davis followed a long history of Democratic scum milking society dry with empty promises, massive wealth redistribution of the middle class, and open corruption. A non-politician was voted in and started trying to fix the mess. As President Trump is seeing, there is a constant sabotage effort from the Marxist left. Considering the efforts of the Alinskyites, a non-politician still did a decent job. Issues with giving Drivers licenses to illegals were pushed back, not put in by Brown. Issues of massive increases to vehicle registration were pushed back, implemented by Brown. The Democrats and Union cronies illegally campaigned against him and his policies (found illegal by the US Supreme Court).
But hey, it's always someone else's fault even when the Democrats wreak havoc. Your tactic is to lie, and keep repeating the lie relentlessly. Alinsky learned from Himmler, and you morons either get it or follow along with the goose step your party chants. What is hillarious is that you idiots actually believe chanting "down with Nazis and Fascists" defends your use of Nazi and Fascist tactics.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.