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Most People Would Give Lab-Grown Meat a Try, New Survey Reveals (sciencealert.com)
Clive Phillips and Matti Wilks report via ScienceAlert: In a recent survey, published this month in PLOS One, we investigated the views of people in the United States, a country with one of the largest appetites for meat and an equally large appetite for adopting new technologies. A total of 673 people responded to the survey, done online via Amazon Mechanical Turk, in which they were given information about in vitro meat (IVM) and asked questions about their attitudes to it. Although most people (65 percent), and particularly males, were willing to try IVM, only about a third said they would use it regularly or as a replacement for farmed meat. But many people were undecided: 26 percent were unsure if they would use it as a replacement for farmed meat and 31 percent unsure if they would eat it regularly. This suggests there is scope to persuade consumers that they should convert to IVM if a suitable product is available. As an indication of this potential, 53 percent said it was seen as preferable to soy substitutes. The biggest concerns were about IVM's taste and lack of appeal, particularly in the case of meats seen as healthy, such as fish and chicken, where only two-thirds of people that normally ate them said that they would if it was produced by in vitro methods. By contrast, 72 percent of people who normally eat beef and pig products would still do so if they were produced as IVM.
And the poll was taken at a vegan fete at a college. Or was it a high school? ROFL. No way that any one over the age of 50 would want to try this if they had a brain in their heads.
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I actually remember taking this HIT. Paid pretty good for a survey HIT.
Kibo called it almost 20 years ago.
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I'm not eating it unless it gets slipped to me.
As long as it tastes good. And no being close enough or not to bad is not good enough. The disgusting bland tasting substitutes many in the vege community keep trying to say taste just as good have their taste buds in their arse as far as I am concerned. grow me something that tastes as good and I will happily eat that instead whether it is plant or lab grown.
I'm 60.
Perfectly happy to try it, in fact, looking forward to it a great deal.
You might want to argue that I don't have a brain in my head, or that I'm stupid, but I don't think you can make your case. :)
Lots of very good reasons to want this to work out.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
why not? i am sure the "gmo = scary" crowd will be against.
as long as it tastes good and has all the nutients. if it tastes like crap then as long as it gets the job done if theres nothing else.
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"This suggests there is scope to persuade consumers that they should convert to IVM if a suitable product is available. As an indication of this potential, 53 percent said it was seen as preferable to soy substitutes"
Would Vegans eat it? Vegetarians? I find this interesting.
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Table-ized A.I.
The things that would suffer the least from lab grown meat are cheap.
Give a person the option of a lab grown hotdog and a normal one and I bet almost everyone would be hard-pressed to tell the difference
Stop eating your brothers.
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I would have no problem eating lab grown meat, at least once for the experience.
However, I've seen reports referring to it as tasteless. I don't want that.
One thing I don't like about "artificial" food is how boring it is : one brand, one taste, no variation. There are plenty of things going on in living things, all these little things are what give natural products their rich flavor. The more you standardize things, the less you give life a chance to make you something exceptional, and lab grown meat is an extreme case.
I'd definitely give it a shot.
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//// It wasn't bad
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This would be a good way to make protein accessible to more of the world without the large environmental footprint that herding meat animals comes with. They'd have to do some testing to replicate different parts of the animal though. Lean, tender proteins like fillet steak, fatty collagen rich analogs for ribs etc.
This is so dumb. They needed a study for this? And then, when they do the study they target "particularly males". This is how "bad science" is done.
You know how to do GOOD f'ing science? Get your IVM meat done, do it right, and make it taste and cook like Filet Mignon. Everyone will eat it. No one will care that it is grown in a lab. All the nonsense "studies" and whatnot UNTIL then only prove your IVM meat sucks. Nobody with 23 braincells to rub together would REFUSE to eat "meat" comparable to Filet. This isn't difficult, jackasses.
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Tastes like despair.
Understanding is a three edged sword. - Ambassador Kosh Naranek, Babylon 5
For years now, pop culture has been pushing the idea of vat grown meat through television and movies, trying to normalize it. The other prong is climate change hysteria, pushing the idea that we need to get rid of our cattle herds and battery chicken to save the planet or something.
Now that public acceptance is where it needs to be, investors will see that returns are there to be had, expect research to really take off. The only problem left is taste. Still a long way to go in that department, as shown by this documentary video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
See that "Preview" button?
There's little reason not to try it if you like meat. The decision to consume it regularly would be based on price and quality. The quality could, eventually, be much higher (and the environmental impact much lower) than hoof grown meat.
A blob of meat grown in a vat has no intrinsic need for tendons, bones, silverskin and big chunks of fat -- none of which I want in a steak (but, lab grown bacon better have a lot of fat in it in chunks!). As well, if done right, imagine how perfect the marbling could be!
However, I'm not holding my breath because I'm picky about texture. For example, I refuse to eat, except when I have no options, "press formed" turkey and think the package of meat in the grocery should be required to have a term like "Press Formed" in letters at least as large as the largest used for the word "Turkey" within two font sizes away and that every use of the word "Turkey" should be preceded by the term "Press Formed" (or whatever word the FDA picks to describe this abomination that is sold as "turkey").
Those blobs of meat in the vat better get good exercise to make the texture correct (the good news is that they probably only need to be exercised during the day so solar panels can power the electrodes).
Why is there an "insightful" mod and why isn't it "-1"? If I wanted insight, I wouldn't be reading
At the junction of when lab grown beef becomes economically viable and beef finally getting and environmental tax will be the be the beginning of the end. Lab grown meat will begin eating a chunk of the profits of the cattle industry which will be a feedback loop that will destroy the cattle industry as we know it. They won't disappear but they will have a minority share of the market.
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No interest in meat, or meat simulation. What are you saving? If you want meat then eat it. Once a week, not 5 times a day. And know where it comes from and how disgusting it is. And what impact it has. You disgusting little fucks.
You'd be a fool not to try it once. Just as you'd be a fool to keep trying if you didn't like it.
These studies have such a small sample size yet claim "Most people would...".
The Survey Size seems a bit small to be making these sort of claims.
Their Data is fine, but it probably doesn't reflect much in terms of the real world
Sure, why not give it a try? It seems pretty obvious to me that full fledged farms would be impractical aboard a space ship, so I see this a baby step towards Star Trek styled food replication.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Currently cannibals face a lot of societal stigma. Unlike blacks, Jews, lesbians, homosexuals, Latinos, etc it is perfectly acceptable to not hire someone just because she or he wants to eat their fellow workers. I was wondering if we could genetically engineer human protein so than these canibals would feel comfortable bringing in their lunch to the company cafeteria. I mean after all it would not be real human flesh that had been attached to a body. It would only be vat grown human like tissue that was never alive.
What do they use as a feed stock to grow the stuff in the vats? How does the energy profile of the final food compare with meat from living animals?
I've sometimes wondered the same about hydroponically grown vegetables.
The meat is, presumably, muscle tissue. Tissue that lays in a petri dish or bobbles along a conveyor belt in a big factory. Unless this muscle is used, made to do work against a substantial resistance, it seems likely that it will never form the fibers, the texture that we associate with animal meat. I imagine a texture like liver or perhaps a viscous fluid or an oatmeal consistency.
OTOH, I also imagine that it might have a very exotic flavor. Human teeth will be replaced by a round sucking mouth (like on a carp or tube worm) as evolution favors eaters of manufactured foods.
...omphaloskepsis often...
I see this more as competition for plant-based meat alternatives, such as the already-existing Impossible Burger. Both are new technology, and assuming both taste good, I think it will come down to price. At least for ground meat, I assuming lab growing a hunk of meat and then grinding it up will not be price competitive.
I'm interested in the consequences this will have on the human immune system the same way I wonder if factory farming is having a deleterious effect on human health.
For context it seems current arguments revolve around the ethical treatment of animals. However since we're been eating meat since before we were homo sapiens I wonder if there is a mechanism inside the immune system that derives some of its immune response information from the food we eat? That by eating suffering sick animals we also ingest their stress hormones.
My perspective on this is that I wonder what stress hormones are produced from an animal that is suffering? Chickens and pigs seem to suffer a lot from factory farming, so my concerns around this is what effect do these hormones have on us when we eat them. The laws gagging media reports on the appalling conditions in these factory farms mean we don't even get to posit the question of how these factory farming techniques affect human health when eaten.
So that brings me to the motivations for producing lab grown meat, to produce more meat without suffering. However does that mean we become more susceptible to disease because our bodies aren't getting information from metabolizing animal flesh?
Couldn't we do the same thing and how much healthier would we be, by removing the motivation for producing this 'lab-meat' by simply treating the animals well and making sure they are healthy before we eat them?
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
So how do you grow meat? Do you feed it soy milk? Water? nitrogen?
does it bloom ?
does it scream when you harvest?
does it bleed?
People always say stuff they don't mean. If it's cheap enough, they'll buy it. It's like fast food, sausages etc. It's full of all sorts of shit. But some people enjoy eating it, and it's cheap. Give 'em no other affordable choice and you'll get a different answer.
... EVERYBODY will be eating it, mark my words. This will be as ubiquitous as microwave ovens are now - most people will have a 'meat grower' in their kitchen (those who still eat meat), and will be growing all sorts of meat, which previously they couldn't obtain at all, and also saving themselves time and effort, having to manually buy different sorts of meats, they will just dial in what sort of meat they want, and it will grow it for them.
And also the meat will be perfect, compared to the filth that people currently buy. And significantly cheaper, how could it be more expensive than the current, insane system of farming?
Human beings aren't supposed to eat meat, by the way, and you can't have 6 BILLION large omnivores living on this planet, it's completely unnatural.
But then, most Slashdotters would rather watch the whole world die in agony than even THINK about what it is that they are doing, and why they are doing it.
But if you think otherwise, and you also think you're a rational being, read this simple table and then try to refute it:
http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html
Given how it was with sugar, flour etc.. i would bet that it will get to a point where the engineered meat will probably surpass the real deal in taste, as it will be made to be tasty instead of moving cows.
Now if it will be any healthy, it's a great question, but i bet on no.
How much would it cost?
IF it cost about the same OR less AND the enviornmental impact was less THEN
I might consider it. Especially if I could grow it myself.
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So you would use the green light to charge a battery, and that to charge a lantern, and that to charge a ring. Sounds terribly inefficient, but familiar somehow.
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
Bugs, especially in the larval stage, are tasty.
Lab grown meat sux.
And, yes, I speak from personal experience.
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Sometimes I build a big pile of meat and roll around in it. And I always put a steak on my face when I get a black eye.
You know what ruins the environment and kills millions of people through its production? Electricity.
So stop posting shit you know nothing about, you're wasting electricity.
When water rains down on a mountain top, drips over a few miles of mountain rock and moss, floods fields in which tomato plants grow, then I know why the tomatoes are nutritious -- plants are really good at eating soil, and in that case, they'll pick up all of the minerals and dead animals on those rocks.
When cows spend all day, every day, eating and chewing grass, then I know why the beef is nutritious -- the cow uses three stomachs and a few million chews to extract the nutrition in the grass.
I'm not eating beef and tomatoes for the taste. I'm not doing it for the texture either. I'm doing it for the nutrition. That's what the taste really signifies. I'm doing it for the energy to live -- and the calm to digest -- that a nice beefsteak and beefsteak tomato can provide.
So when you grow it in a lab, what kind of nutrition does it have? If you're telling me that the lab takes vitamins, grinds them up, and then spends all of this effort to make the vitamins taste like steak, then I'm not interested. I can just eat the vitamins and save everyone the trouble.
If I'm not eating dead nature, then I fail to see what I'm actually getting from this "food".
Molly and Armitage ate in silence, while Case sawed shakily at his steak, reducing it to uneaten bite-sized fragments, which he pushed around in the rich sauce, finally abandoning the whole thing. `Jesus,' Molly said, her own plate empty, `gimme that. You know what this costs?' She took his plate. `They gotta raise a whole animal for years and then they kill it. This isn't vat stuff.' She forked a mouthful up and chewed.
There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
If this goes to market, the first thing that will happen is a major lobbying effort to avoid having to label it any differently. People will eat it because nobody will know that's in what they're buying.
See, I find the wall to be the other way: I like meat in the sense that some of it is enjoyable to eat, has good taste and so on, but I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea that some animal had to die for my meal.
So IVM offers the hope that I can have my dinner and not have to deal with the idea that some animal was killed. If IVM is even reasonably tolerable, I doubt I'd ever eat a 'real" steak or burger again.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Refridgeration is involved early in the process at an abattoir so the meat doesn't go off. With roo shooting it's a bit late in the process, sometimes very late and in very hot places. You don't want to eat a dead roo that's been in the sun all day at 30C plus, and then not a lot cooler overnight as a rare steak (or at least I do not want to). In colder climates it doesn't matter so much.
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