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Google Tells Army of 'Quality Raters' To Flag Holocaust Denial (theguardian.com)
Google is using a 10,000-strong army of independent contractors to flag "offensive or upsetting" content, in order to ensure that queries like "did the Holocaust happen" don't push users to misinformation, propaganda and hate speech. From a report on The Guardian: The review of search terms is being done by the company's "quality raters", a little-known corps of worldwide contractors that Google uses to assess the quality of its systems. The raters are given searches based on real queries to conduct, and are asked to score the results on whether they meet the needs of users. These contractors, introduced to the company's review process in 2013, work from a huge manual describing every potential problem they could find with a given search query: whether or not it meets the user's expectations, whether the result offered is low or high quality, and whether it's spam, porn or illegal. In a new update to the rating system, rolled out on Tuesday, Google introduced another flag raters could use: the "upsetting-offensive" mark.
flags and denying?
Does anyone know if the DuckDuckGo search engine has something similar?
Why, their famed AI doesn't do the job?
I am concerned that Google is attempting to act as a gatekeeper and arbiter of truth. While holocaust denial is certainly appalling, what else are they going to censor? What if China decides that Tiananmen Square is offensive?
As in, the truth hurts?
Really. They wouldn't would they?
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
The line between hateful speech and offensive speech is so thin, it can correctly be identified as in the ear of the beholder.
Even in the freest societies, the right not to be offended is not granted to any of us... that's how we keep the freedom.
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That page is exactly the sort of result I would want if I were searching for racism. It's really strange that Google would think it's a bad result. Without it a naive searcher would believe racism is a thing of the past. Does Google seriously think upsetting realities should be hidden from view?
Honestly this story smells a lot more like a trial balloon or fake news than something that actually happened. If Google actually starts censoring unpleasant realities from results I'll be happy to eat my words and stop using Google. Until then color me very skeptical.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
I've always been curious about this. It's a dumb thing to do, and makes the person look foolish, but beyond that why is this actually a crime in some places? I mean I can pretend that Obama was never president, but that doesn't make it so and it makes me look really stupid, but they would never make that a crime (Note to Self: Check back in 10 years and see if they did indeed make this a crime). Just ignore the morons and let them play in their little pretend world.
There is no point in history that is above research and open discussion. As technology improves (DNA and carbon dating techniques being probably the best examples) we can always advance our knowledge on any historical subject. And at the very least increase our accuracy of it.
I find this whole thing disgusting. If I want brazen censorship I'll find a way to use a search engine in China. Google being the "best" search engine has run it's course.
I've done their jobs before.
Don't forget to also flag content to ensure queries like "is Google flagging holocaust denial" don't push users to conspiracy theories.
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> Look at a video "6 million lies" on youtube, there is some compelling evidence that what we all "know" to be true
Ahh, "I hate Jews and that's OK if I can pretend the Holocaust didn't actually happen at all (or at least to the degree historians say it did)".
What a strange position.
I guess that's what you get when you start with "I hate Jews and believe they shouldn't be considered human" and look for ways to justify your hatred instead of looking for truth.
> I may have to give up my comfortable google searches for something a little more open and honest.
Or you could just stop looking around entirely and get all your 'information' straight from Stormfront. Why risk seeing something that contradicts your prejudice?
rawhide!
Microsoft may steal all your data. But atleast they dont Steal your data and Misinform you, As google apparently wants to do now.
Actually, until I saw this video, I was firmly in the camp of believing that it had happened more or less exactly as depicted. Turns out it's a grand illusion, might explain why control of media is important, now that darn pesky internet is putting out information in an uncontrolled manner, how annoying!
Funny that you should think I'd want to be part of a group such as Stormfront as I am probably the first person they'd want to hang from a sturdy tree branch. Yeah, I'm a minority, educated, thoughtful, compassionate, not exactly the soldier they're looking for I'm guessing. I have actually never been to that website, not even by accident.
What I do know though is that I don't like the way Zionist Jews think or behave and how they use "teh holocaust" to hammer any opposition into oblivion. They also use it as cover for their odious, inhumane, and cruel oppression of Palestinians. So yeah, I'm not with all the "Jews are God's Chosen People" bullshit that the oblivious Christian Right and Alt-Right espouses.
BTW, I like all your ad-hominem attacks. Care to present a cogent argument instead?
Only I can judge you.
We should have a whole branch of government that 'fact checks' things.
We could call it the Ministry of Truth.
Then we could all be safer and happier, knowing the Ministry of Truth is making sure the news says what it should, right?
-Styopa
The holocaust never happened.
What ever happened to that phrase^
Whenever I bring it up these days, I'm immediately met with looks of scorn and told "no, you're just being an asshole". To which I can only say "or maybe you're just sensitive?"
I'd like to apply as a quality rater for anything hentai-related, 2D artwork or 3D renderings, human and furry, tentacles, etc.
Maybe we think the user *needs* to find the truth, but maybe they *want* to find an article that makes them feel good about their hatred. Isn't Google supposed to help them find what they want? Of course, some kid could just as easily be typing that because they really don't know and want to understand what the deal is.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
This is the actual holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
Westerners never hear a word of it, again, because the jews run western countries.
that'll teach 'em
back in Nov of last year...
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Americans are big on preaching about ancestors.
Jay-Z? Just about any other rapper?
Oh, except most of the white ones.
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While I fully agree with your perspective, there is no reason to censor speech. There is plenty of information out there to show that the Holocaust was real. We also have facts showing that Mao killed an estimated 80 million Chinese people, Stalin and Lenin killed more than 30 million Russian people. China hates these facts being in public and given the chance they certainly would censor information. Russia hates their history put on display, and just like China would censor if they could.
Hell, don't you think that the US is embarrassed about some if it's own history being put on display? Don't you think that certain people in Government would like you to never know about Operation Mockingbird/COINTELPRO? How about the wars with the American Indians? How about the Democratic Party pushing Jim Crow Laws? How about Iran/Contra? In other words, censorship would be an issue for much more than just Holocaust deniers and in the US it's not just a Republican/Democratic party who would want to take advantage of censorship.
Free speech is all about having the fake and stupid ideas on display, so that people can learn to defend themselves against fake and stupid ideas. You don't learn and grow by living in an echo chamber, you learn and grow by having your beliefs and opinions challenged.
Trusting some arbiter of "truth" to censor gives the censoring body the ability to censor not just fake and stupid ideas, but anything that they dislike. Wholly hell, look at the media in the US today to see what a mess they can make by manipulating information. People are lied to openly, and even worse through more nefarious means by omission which is hard to detect. Those people are the ones who would be censoring if we allowed it.
People like Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, who happen to be some top notch conservative thinkers are not invited to Facebook or Google for any input. Why? Because their input harms the beliefs of the people who want to censor. That is why we can't allow it and need to push back against it.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Learn Yiddish and Hebrew. Hang out with some, especially some of the more militant Zionist and Ultra-Orthodox cultists.
No culture or group is without its extremist psychopaths just the blade of a knife from violence and terror.
The vast majority of us can accept that the holocaust deniers are up to no good and we see virtue in the actions but what's the reality of this "army" of censors going to be after they get done with the holocaust deniers? Who's next? What ideas will be found to be unfit for public consumption? Granted, Google can't stop people from their right to expression but as an outlet for knowledge they can do a great deal of damage.
If we're fine with this then why are we so opposed to book bans and such? Why do we need safe spaces? There's a lot more that's going on here than meets the eye. Anyone against this action will be labeled a holocaust denier just like some members of the public are labeled as bigots.
So the discussion here for future generations comes down to trusting pictures and video (which can be photo shopped), authors and publishers (which historically have always been the voice of the victor, and in this case the Jews, they are US's ally in the middle east which help us keep the oil coming and keep China\Russia in check) and the internet (if you've got solid sources for information, e.g. Law or Academic data, it's a force to be reckoned with, Otherwise, not so much).
If you have anything that isn't directly published such and used directly by the public such as a live video feed, or academic data such as what the GAO, BLS, and so forth put out, it's suspect and any discussion around it devolves into the equivalent of a religious flame war on a forum. People will believe what they want to believe. There's lots of empirical historical data that doesn't depict Jews in the best of light, and the worst of them will always create some scheme to make sure the goyum don't know.
in general, Millennials are very skeptical of the news media; it's the reason you see Colbert do so well. He makes fun of the media monopoly, who completely fail to understand most of the country watches them for infotainment purposes only and nobody trusts them. There is no real news media anymore.
What this tells me is, whether or not we like it, Google is now officially in the business of playing politics. Google.com is now like Disney.com; we only see what a sanitized version of what Google's executive management want us to see. That is only going to last for so long before they trash their user base. Ultimately, this discussion is about ad revenue, and Google will chase ad revenue to it's death in the same way Microsoft's Monopoly has made them so in-agile they are now dying from a thousand cuts.
That I dropped 2 atom bombs on fully populated cities along with turning many German cities into ash with people living in them. All this while setting up Japanese concentration camps. Then let's pretend my biggest ally killed more of its own citizens during the war than its enemies. Do you think I may be able to downplay some of this by exaggerating the atrocities of my enemy? Let's say my enemy was pretty bad but maybe not quite as bad as I would like. Would it be in my best interest to turn oh say a figure like 1 million into 6 million?
The vast majority of you are fucking morons
Maybe China hates that fact, because 80M people weren't killed. Where did you get that fact?
only about 400,000 of the six gorillion actually perished, mostly due to starvation after the allies bombed the supply lines bringing food the relocation camps where jews were being held before transportation to their homeland in palestine.
About 400,000 Jews died during WW2, yet Israel and its puppet the USA have murdered approximately 30 million Muslims since the 1950s.
But, don't let the Jew-run Google Ministry of Truth let you hear this...
So examining if the narrative created by the victors in a conflict from last century might have been exaggerated for propaganda reasons means you hate the jews? If the holocaust was truly on strong factual ground then the allies wouldn't have made it illegal for Germans to research their own history...if a historian wants to reexamine if the death toll from the Huns was exaggerated does it means he hates Europeans? No, it means he is a historian.
Can we also flag Armenian Genocide denial?
Hating Jews is something most "good" Christians did for centuries. It's no longer in vogue, but trying to claim such hate stems from the Nazi party is to revise history. Some unpleasant truths include the fact that many Christians would have happily seen those awful Jews locked up in camps.
So, you believe that all the physical, photographic, and first-hand evidence was faked? The gas chambers, the mass graves, the photos and videos of the huge piles of bodies etc were all fabricated evidence? All the people who witnessed this - victims, perpetrators, and third parties - are all actors? Where does this end, how deep does it go?
Denying that the holocaust ever happened is far worse than using the fact that it did happen in an argument ever could be. You've become worse than what you hate in an attempt to defeat it. You've also become an unwitting traitor to your cause - nothing de-legitimizes pro-Palestinian arguments more than links to holocaust denial.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Those original immigrants, probably the Clovis people, didn't displace people already on the land and force them to move or die. The Europeans that showed up after 1500 pretty much made it a way of life to exterminate or displace those that were there before them.
Fuck you Nazi
Actually, until I saw this video
You should check the video on why the 9/11 attacks were actually a controlled detonation by the CIA. You'll love it.
That's an upward estimate of the Great Leap Forward. I think I've read that 20-40 million is a better count, but nobody really knows, since the whole famine itself was caused as much by local officials intentionally distorting virtually all the data on food shortages and deaths for the Chinese government. One thing is certain, however many died in the Great Leap Forward, it was enough people for the Party to sideline Mao for several years and for the more technocratic party members like Deng Xiaoping to run the country until Mao found his footing again and used the Cultural Revolution to sideline those in the Party that had diminished him due to the catastrophe of the Great Leap Forward.
The Great Leap Forward is indeed a good example of how suppression of information can, if not create a catastrophe, then greatly inflame it, but in that case it worked somewhat in reverse. It wasn't the central government trying to stifle information, it was local and regional officials. But the reason those officials did it was because they had been handed absurd quotas (like the amount of steel to be produced by a certain district), and because they were sufficiently afraid that they wouldn't meet these quotas, they had a great deal of impetus to distort both the production numbers and quality of production (there are plenty of stories of large amounts of steel being produced that were of such low quality that it was effectively useless), and almost certainly to try to suppress any reports of famine and death tolls. But it's hard to imagine even if the figures had been honestly communicated to the the Chinese government that that information would ever have been disseminated, though possibly the plan might have been abandoned before the death toll reached as high as it did.
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What's worse?
"I hate Jews, the holocaust never happened!"
or
"I hate Jews, I am glad the holocaust happened!"
I don't see how not elevating a grossly incorrect idea like Holocaust denial in search results is akin to censorship. Google isn't taking these delusional twits off the Internet, they're just not directing unsuspecting fools to it. This isn't censorship and not a bad thing from my perspective.
People can have their soapbox. Google is under to directive to point people to the bullshit ones.
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The difference here is that you are under no obligation to trust Google at all. Use another search engine if you want to. It's not like Google hasn't filtered search results for years, it's just that anti-Semitism is simply the latest flag. At the end of the day, there's always someone being an arbiter of some kind. You're not likely to find too many libraries that will have any of Ernst Zundel's work, and you won't find any mainstream encyclopedias that have articles debating whether the Holocaust happened or not.
What is true is that up until about the last 15-20 years, White Supremacist groups had a very difficult time gaining anykind of mainstream exposure. When their activities were reported on at all, it was in terms of criminal or anti-social activity. The best these hate groups could do is put sort of encoded advertising in newspapers to their latest meetup location, or every once in a while to shove fliers under windshield wipers. Their literature could never get any mainstream publisher to even touch it, so they ended up forming or using small publishing houses, or more often just sending out their photocopied rags via snail mail in plain brown wrapping (this was particularly necessary when shipping their crap abroad, as other countries' postal services often have rules against delivering such materials).
But the Internet gave them a whole new life, and thus you have Stormfront. But Stormfront isn't really good enough. It's still a walled community, and in general the only people that seek it out are likeminded travelers in space and time. That's why it's critical that they find ways to get on to Twitter and Facebook, or get good rankings on search engines. These avenues have allowed them to penetrate the wider society to probably the greatest extent since the pre-Civil Rights South.
Google is a private company, and if it wants to make it a policy that it isn't going to deliver search results of sites it views as hate sites, I think Google doesn't really have to justify itself. It clearly recognizes, as Twitter and Facebook slowly are, that to become to easy a vehicle for these groups is to devalue the brand overall. As it is, even if Google kills every anti-Semitic site result it can find, it's still pretty goddamned easy to find these kinds of sites.
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I've already addressed the so-called gas chambers and the so-called human ovens. Look it up yourself, there wasn't the capacity for the volume of exterminations claimed. Yes, the accounts were made-up for the sake of political and monetary gain. Anything for the much-sought Jewish homeland. I honestly don't know how deep it goes but watch the video "Six million lies", decide for yourself how much you beleive.
The horrors being visited upon the Palestinians are being overlooked because the "Holocaust" provides convenient political cover and perpetual victim-hood for the Israeli government. I think the one needs to be debunked/investigated and the other needs to be ended. They are two separate things though. The Jews have become the very perpetrators of violence and inhumanity while complaining how much they suffered from it. Kind of like how child abuse victims at the hand of their parents grow up to be child abusers of their own children.
Only I can judge you.
Already saw it. It was interesting how the buildings fell in such a vertical manner, as if someone had planned it that way and didn't want to cause excessive damage to adjacent structures. An expert building demolition team couldn't have hoped for better results.
Only I can judge you.
Oh wow your cherry-picked alternative facts from a tinfoil hat video answer everything. I'll just disregard all the best historical evidence we've had until now in favor of this lunatic nonsense!
(seek help)
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Wow, so you're a minority and you hate yourself so much you want to take away the rightful pity the Jews get for the Holocaust. What a sad life you must lead, I'll pity you so you can say at least someone did.
If you need an army of people to "combat" a growing dissenting opinion, maybe that opinion isnt so bad after all. Im sold! Thanks google :)
So by your own logic, if all of the major book sellers in the US told us they were going to ban certain books you would be okay with that? Hell, you can still find them at other types of stores right?
In other words, you are a delusional moron to believe that partial censorship has a different result as full censorship.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
The Dreyfus Affair shows that even in late 19th and early 20th century France, a country that at that time was seen as one of the most modern and cosmopolitan nations in the world, anti-Semitism was rife throughout all sections of society. The Nazis had plenty of fuel to work with both in Germany and in Occupied Europe. An entire continent was populated by people whose sentiments ranged from benign anti-Semitism of "I like the Jewish baker down the street, he's not like most of those money-grubbing Jews" to Wagner's infamous "I hold the Jewish race to be the born enemy of pure humanity and everything noble in it."
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I love the spelling mistakes in this anti-Semitic diatribe. It really underlines the rabid and mindless hatred of the anti-Semite. What's next, a link to the picture of Churchill as the vile "Jew Lover"?
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I'm seeking help, this is all a cry for help, you're not helping much. Thanks for being mean though.
Only I can judge you.
The point that even Holocaust denial is free speech is well taken; but HD is also a lie. It's also just one particular type of lie. How about a general purpose registry of lies and a "warning, contains registered lies" flag next to the search results?
Now even what's a lie can be subject to debate. Some people think climate change is a lie. Some people think evolution is a lie. So. We'd need multiple lie registries, and you could chose to have your search results flagged based on preferences. Christians could chose a Christian lie registry, and any search results with evolution in them would be flagged as lies.
Eventually, everything would be flagged by somebody's lie registry. Believe me when I tell you, everybody's a liar.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Google has an agenda.
Google is serving the purposes of its masters.
When Google seems to care about the 20,000,000 Russian lives lost in WWII, it might begin
to appear that Google is using its power with some sort of sense of fairness.
As it stands now, Google is just another means of thinly disguised propaganda, and the actions of Google
should be viewed accordingly.
The only thing the First Amendment bans is government censorship. If you're in my house and you start spouting anti-Semitic nonsense, I am completely within my rights to have you removed. Private individuals and organizations are not bound by First Amendment constraints.
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You completely avoided the issue and argument I presented. Instead of rambling talking points someone gave you, try addressing the actual points I made. Not incoherent bullshit and lies like your last statement, but actual points of debate.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Why nobody talked about it in the western world? Why are the books banned?
The Holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Btw, hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews.
Someone set -1 to this, now i am going to post 100 times more.
Why nobody talked about it in the western world? Why are the books banned?
The Holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Btw, hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews.
Someone set -1 to this, now i am going to post 100 times more.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The holocaust is BS
This is the real holocaust:
Jewish Killers Massacre 66 Million in Soviet Gulag
This official postcard, widely circulated by the Communist government in Russia following the Jewish Bolshevik takeover, is entitled "Leaders of the Proletarian Revolution." The postcard reveals the Jewishness of these original leaders of the Communist Party. All six shown, including Lenin and Trotsky, are Jews!
Hitler was half Jew, his cabinet was full of Jews, oops they didn't teach you that did they.
Remember kids, it's always easier to ignore reality and pretend you're the "chosen one" by some invisible man who live in the sky.
The product is staying in the EU and Germany.
The sale pitch is a global ban on searching and search results.
A backlist of sites just for German users might not always work.
So whitelist all the internet results.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
You completely avoided the issue and argument I presented. Instead of rambling talking points someone gave you, try addressing the actual points I made. Not incoherent bullshit and lies like your last statement, but actual points of debate.
Not exactly persuasive, given your own response.
Try clarifying your position on this:
So by your own logic, if all of the major book sellers in the US told us they were going to ban certain books you would be okay with that? Hell, you can still find them at other types of stores right?
Are you talking anti-trust action, ie, opposing a collusion resulting in anti-competitive behavior or are you talking as if you should have the right to force book sellers to carry books? Are you suggesting that MightyMartian be indignant over a non-specific situation, because you think your talking point of an example is worthwhile, that nobody can recognize for what it is, a mere empty and hollow rhetorical example? Do you even think it's comparable to the situation with Google, which is more like say, a book seller not recommending a book they know to be false and misleading? Would that not more accurately describe the situation?
You presented a hypothetical, but neglected to present your position on it, thus you didn't actually make much in the way of points, but presented a conjecture in a very shallow manner.
And then you said this:
In other words, you are a delusional moron to believe that partial censorship has a different result as full censorship.
That followed it up with insulting and belittling language of your own. Thus damaging any claim you might have to civility.
MightyMartian responded by saying that it's not covered under the First Amendment, which is true, so if you are asking MightyMartian to act under some other principle, it behooves you to identify it. Otherwise, your indignation only reflects upon your own poor attitude, but you are actually lacking in terms of establishing your own position as well as behaving without decorum.
At the least, you should consider less abusive language. A little self-censorship, as it were. Your hostility accomplishes little except disadvantaging your own argument.
You won't listen, will you?
Making up fabricated information is not compelling. Making yourself anonymous does not make you a different person, by your writing style and infantile points I can tell you are the same person.
You presented a hypothetical, but neglected to present your position on it, thus you didn't actually make much in the way of points, but presented a conjecture in a very shallow manner.
False. My response to my hypothetical was clear as day as the complete 2nd paragraph. "In other words, you are a delusional moron to believe that partial censorship has a different result as full censorship."
Can't think, can't read, can't present a valid argument against my own, and resort to a cowards position of hiding when challenged. Simply pathetic!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
There are any number of books I am sure that you would have a hard time finding via mainstream booksellers. In fact, a lot of the White Supremacist "publications" (which historically have been mimeographed periodicals without much in the way of a publisher at all) are an example of the kinds of works that few if any mainstream booksellers would ever touch. For mainstream book and magazine distributors and retailers, stocking such works would likely constitute considerable reputational risk, and certainly aren't worth the potential PR problems, not to mention the fact that they aren't likely to be very big sellers at all.
Do I feel I have been injured because Barnes and Noble and Amazon, or hell, the local magazine shop won't sell copies of American Renaissance or The Crusader? No, not particularly, and not just because I find the magazines appalling and loath everything they represent, but also because these are all private businesses that are not even the smallest bit obliged to stock every conceivable publication out there, lest someone like you declare "You're a censor!" I equally support a Catholic bookstore's right not to stock pro-choice literature or Wiccan spellbooks.
Google is in precisely the same position. Giving high rankings to blatantly racist sites has the same capacity for reputational damage as does B&N stocking copies of The Crusader. For all these *businesses*, reputational damage means a potential of real harm to shareholder interests, not to mention what doubtless at least some of these companies view as their responsibility to society not to be disseminators of hate literature. No one is blocking you from buying this kind of literature or reading these kinds of web sites, but they do not have any obligation to assist in procuring them. And that's the only point that counts. No private entity has any obligation to you in this regard, unless you and they have signed a contract explicitly laying out that obligation beforehand. Seeing as Google has been known for many years to filter its search results, you have agreed by using Google's search engine to accept the results it provides.
The "right" and "wrong" of this is something that you and Google as entities in a free country have the right to agree or disagree upon. You obviously feel it is wrong that Google will filter anti-Semitic results, so your remedy is simple. Don't use Google. The same goes for Amazon or Barnes and Noble. If you feel offended that they don't stock The Crusader, don't go into the store.
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They were killed by a government, as part of an official act that was performed in accordance with the laws of that government.
Murder is intentional unsanctioned killing.
It isn't murder if it involves: war, execution, self-defense, an accident, the killer not being mentally competent, suicide, etc.
Gas chambers existed but they weren't used to kill people; zyklon B was used kill lice that was prevalent in concentration camps. Mass graves existed because mass starvation happened. This happened not because the evil Nazi's were witholding food but because they didn't have access to food; the allies succeeded very well in blockading Germany's supply network and therefore, the Germans weren't capable of feeding their own people let alone their prisoners of war.
The reason why I deny the concentration camps as centers of mass murder is because of the lie that they were designed to be slaughtering camps. They were not. I believe this because of the complete lack of preparation as slaughtering camps.
I have no problem believing that millions have died as a consequence of German detainment of what they considered "subhumans". I am skeptical of many specific details that were used to justify the narrative of concentration camps for mass slaughter.
The amount that google pays the raters ensures that the pages will be glanced at for no more than 30 seconds each. Included in that time one has to fill out a check list to specify the relevance of the page in respect to the search, "spamminess", trustworthiness, deceptiveness of title, level of "offensiveness"(hate speech/porn), etc.
The raters get paid by the hour, but they have a quota to fulfil. This ensures that one will pay a minimum of attention to the content of the pages one is rating.
"Independent contractors" sounds a little grandiose... google rating is the cheapest for of "mass production"
google also expects its "staff" to be active in the "rater forums"(on their own dime) to discuss the cases where people disagreed about the ratings.
Position 1: People can not learn to defend their opinions and beliefs without hearing alternative opinions and beliefs. History and Education back my assertion.
Your answer: "nuh uh"
Position 2: It is impossible to accomplish partial censorship. History again backs my position, seeing what happens with censorship in virtually every communist nation, every despotic nation, every dictatorship, every monarchy, and every socialist nation who has tried. Not once has it been successful.
Your answer: "nuh uh"
Google, nor any other company needs to give "high rankings" to anyone (your words). That is an excuse for censorship, nothing more. You are an intellectual infant. I'm done reading your blithering idiocy.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
'communism isn't so bad, let me twist the facts, but don't you dare deny the holocaust' the post
Yer fulla shit.
Google can do what it likes. If you want to read what white supremacists think, it's easy enough to find. Therefore no censorship.
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Auschwitz official numbers. Official memorial plate of the "museum".
From 1948-1989 - "Four million people suffered and died here at the hands of the nazi murderers between the years 1940 and 1945"
1989 to some years ago. "For ever let this place be a cry of despair and a warning to humanity, where the nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women, and children mainly jews from various countries of europe"
The new official plate of the Auschwitz museum says something like this - "Thousands of people suffered here"
So, are the official Polish "museum numbers" also the work of "holocaust denial"?
The official numbers are down from 4 million to thousands, but the "official number" of 6 million still stands?
Official Chinese communist party archives are telling us, that the "Maos great hunger" during the "great leap forward" alone took about 60 000 000 million victims.
Jews believe this about others they call goyim/gentiles: Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Spain (1492), France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No:
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
22. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
23. Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Really nice people guess all nations are nazis (egypt "despoiling" robbing it, Romans under titus, russian pogroms, arab nations post 1948, england (1330) and more ki
Holocaust-denial censorship is a red herring. Almost everyone knows its patently false and should not be seriously propagated.
The real issue at hand is who decides what is and what is not "fake news". I'm sure there are much less black/white issues being labeled as fake news, and some of them may actually be true news (think anything that might cast doubt on the man-made global warming theory). Someone at google could very easily label a story about sea ice thickening to be fake news, even if it is true.
The opposite of this action (NOT labeling clearly fake news stories) may be just as dangerous. An example today comes from the Washingtonpost (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/03/trumps-draft-plan-to-cut-off-food-stamps-for-immigrants-could-cause-some-u-s-citizens-to-go-hungry/?utm_term=.9ce25a1c60ee) claims (based on admittedly UN-verified anecdotal sources) that illegal immigrants would go hungry rather than get on food-stamps (who says they are entitled anyway, as illegals). You could easily come up with an example of left-leaning censorship, but I may be too biased to do so.
The bottom line is this is a highly subjective (and secretive) censorship, and given the stated left-leaning beliefs of those in senior leadership at Google or Facebook, I would feel confident this process will be abused to censor in favor of Left-leaning narratives much more than right-leaning, which, in-short means political censorship. The only true answer to political censorship is total freedom-of-information, trusting human intellect to weed out the true from the fake propaganda.
According to The Uniform Commercial Code, the United States is located in the District of Columbia. in section H of whatever Article in the category "Location of Debtor."
My question is when are States of the United being prosecuted for tresspass and human traficking and white slaving in these here States of America?
Unfortunately decentralizing almost never aligns with business models.
We have government to do things that businesses can't or shouldn't do, but there are so many people screaming about how government is bad and shouldn't do anything at all.
also, those grossly incorrect theories about quark stars. seriously, until you find one, stop using your math rhetoric to mislead the public, all speculation should be removed from the true nets. just because a few people suspect quark stars may be a reality is no excuse for spreading lies and propaganda. these ideas should be censored
Google results are based on market analysis. if >50% of searches end in holocaust denial, you have a substantial data point, truth or not