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Feds: We're Pulling Data From 100 Phones Seized During Trump Inauguration (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In new filings, prosecutors told a court in Washington, DC that within the coming weeks, they expect to extract all data from the seized cellphones of more than 100 allegedly violent protesters arrested during the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Prosecutors also said that this search is validated by recently issued warrants. The court filing, which was first reported Wednesday by BuzzFeed News, states that approximately half of the protestors prosecuted with rioting or inciting a riot had their phones taken by authorities. Prosecutors hope to uncover any evidence relevant to the case. Under normal judicial procedures, the feds have vowed to share such data with defense attorneys and to delete all irrelevant data. "All of the Rioter Cell Phones were locked, which requires more time-sensitive efforts to try to obtain the data," Jennifer Kerkhoff, an assistant United States attorney, wrote. Such phone extraction is common by law enforcement nationwide using hardware and software created by Cellebrite and other similar firms. Pulling data off phones is likely more difficult under fully updated iPhones and Android devices.

233 comments

  1. That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They confiscated all of their diaries. One of them didn't get confiscated though, and became a best seller.

    1. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for history knowledge

    2. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mein Kampf?

    3. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The diary of Doctor Henry Jones, Sr.

    4. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diary of Anne Frank?

    5. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by clonehappy · · Score: 0

      You scum don't even bother to try and avoid invoking Godwin on the first post, eh?

    6. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Anne Frank's diary was written long after the end of WWII, using a ballpoint pen (which wasn't invented until after WWII)

      That is holocaust denialist BS that has been debunked:

      Anne wrote the body of her diary with a fountain pen. The only things written in ballpoint pen ink are two loose notes written by someone else and put with the papers later and some page numbers written on the sheets during the compilation process.

      There is a long history of neo-Nazis trying to discredit Anne's diaries, so in 1963 her defenders tracked down the arresting officer that led the raid on their hideout. He corroborated nearly everything that Anne's father had said.

    7. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godwin rule is waived when the President is a fascist

    8. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by MouseR · · Score: 1

      Bepto Bishmol

    9. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diary of a Wimpy Kid?

    10. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by number6x · · Score: 2

      Awesome!

      Neo-Nazi B.S. de-bunked by an actual ex-Nazi!

      +1 Awesome Informative points.

    11. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      everyoneidontlikeishitler.jpg

    12. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Godwin rule waved when SJWs show up and start denouncing everyone they politically disagree as {agreed-upon boogey man of the times}.

      Because, yeah, that IS what Nazis did

    13. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, it was invoke under Obama quite a few times.

    14. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grays Sports Almanac

    15. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      So the original claim that she was not only at his Innauguration, but also had her diary with her, is at least two kinds of bullshit itself.

      Except that nobody claimed that. The famous diary writer at Hitler's inauguration was Joseph Goebbels. His diary is fascinating to read, and provides a huge amount of insight into the inner workings of Nazi Germany, unlike Anne's which is just the musing of a girl locked in a room.

    16. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Neo-Nazi B.S. de-bunked by an actual ex-Nazi!

      Actually, most Neo-Nazi BS is best debunked by actual Nazis. "The Holocaust never happened" is thoroughly debunked by Nazi testimony at Nuremberg. The defenses fell in one of two categories:

      1. Yes, I killed people, but I was just following orders, so I am not responsible.
      2. Yes, I gave orders, but I didn't actually kill anyone myself, so I am not responsible.

      But NONE of them use the defense, or ever claimed, that the killings didn't happen, or that the death camps didn't exist. No one claimed that until many years later.

    17. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny enough, these days the radical left are the facists.

    18. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diary of a Mad Black Woman?

    19. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mind blown. Gotta watch BttF once again today.

    20. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those testimonies at Nuremberg were given under torture. They should be taken with a grain of salt.

    21. Re:That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do one is disputing a couple of Jews were killed. The dispute is that the number of Jews killed was high enough to consider it a holocaust.

      Those statements don't serve to debunk anything.

    22. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the title of Rachel Dolezol's autobiography.

    23. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They weren't given under torture. This is a typical holocaust denial lie.

    24. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only a whore's bastard would refer the murder of six million as "a couple of Jews."

    25. Re: That's what happened at Hitler's inauguration by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      Yeah like that leftist Trump who would arrest any journalists that write negative articles about him.

  2. So, the gist of it is... by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...if you're going to a protest, bring a burner phone. Bonus points if you set the wallpaper to goatse.

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    1. Re:So, the gist of it is... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      or don't bring one at all..

    2. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But the entire point of going to the protest is to put selfies of it up on social media to impress your friends and piss off that one uncle.

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    3. Re:So, the gist of it is... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or don't bring one at all..

      Then how are you going to coordinate the riot?

    4. Re:So, the gist of it is... by fizzer06 · · Score: 1

      That was a bit more than just a "protest".

    5. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Some way that doesn't leave an electronic trail that will make conspiracy charges easy peasy?

      This couldn't happen to a bigger group of assholes, so good.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    6. Re:So, the gist of it is... by swb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      More than a burner, they should coordinate their burners. Load them up with tantalizing information that wastes a ton of investigation time, but being careful not to have any actual prosecutor conspiracies.

      Use burners with known weaknesses or backdoors and set them up with passcodes or weak encryption so they look legitimate but are easily broken with diagnostic software.

      Emails about stuff supposedly buried in parks, or sunk in lakes at specific GPS coordinates. Treasure-map fantasies. Rent a storage space and decorate it with Independence Day decorations, but make it sound like it's full of anarchist equipment.

      Bonus points if you can capture video streams of the Feds digging up a park or walking into a storage locker filled with decorations.

      If you did it right, they might get tired of grabbing phones with the idea that they won't know which ones have real solid info and which ones will leave them chasing their tails.

    7. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/protest/riot/g

    8. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That would require intelligence. Remember who we're talking about.

      Losers throwing emotional hissy fits aren't known for well thought out plans.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    9. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh fuck off with your RWNJ delusional bullshit Wumpus, youre almost as insane as the Orange babboon.

    10. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, the group of assholes you associate with will be on trial someday too.

    11. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just loot new phones. Duh! They're tiny and won't interfere with the boxes of new Jordan's I'm getting.

    12. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      youre almost as insane as the Orange babboon.

      Who won... unlike the losers out in the street throwing a temper tantrum.

      Thanks for demonstrating yet again, how/why Trump won.

    13. Re:So, the gist of it is... by future+assassin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      or don't bring one at all..

      Then how are you going to coordinate the riot?

      I should ask my mom how they coordinated these protests in the black pre mobile phone ages http://www.lubin82.pl/fotograf... I was (9) at those, still have the smell of tear gas show up once in a while when I smell certain chemicals.

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    14. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Who didnt win the popular vote, and is obviously insane, of course they are rioting, the whole place needs burning down.
      Meanwhile, the right wing scum are violent every day, bit of projecting going on I reckon, btw, I live in a civillised country not a shithole of dumbfuckery like the US, where you only have right and far right, its so amusing you think you have a left wing.

    15. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

      I'm good with this leading where it goes. We'll see who laughs last.

      I'll bet you're wrong about who was paying the rioters bills. These were the usual black block suspects.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    16. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1, Troll

      This was my first thought. I'm not saying it is the MOST likely explain, but I would not be surprised AT ALL if Trump supporters were the (faux) antagonists.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    17. Re: So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Republic, not democracy.

      But don't let anything interfere with your delusions. That's a sure path to good mental health. Just double down.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    18. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A "super delegate" is a manufacture of the Democratic Party, specifically used at their convention... Had there been no "super delegates", Sanders, not Clinton would have likely run against Trump.

      Also, republican in the last "20 years" is pretty narrow, but Bush 43 won his second election's popular vote, so the only way you're right on that is by saying "became". Prior to Bush 43 lose/win didn't happen for 112 years, and 112 years ago, the "republican" party was closer to the what the "democratic" party is today than the other way 'round. Remember, that was right around the time the republicans freed the slaves.

      If you're going to be a lib, or troll like one, at least learn how their party works and some American history. Otherwise you just look ignorant.

    19. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      [burner phones]...Load them up with tantalizing information that wastes a ton of investigation time...Emails about stuff supposedly buried in parks, or sunk in lakes at specific GPS coordinates. Treasure-map fantasies

      "Bob, that was slick how you snuck tiny chips with Snowden's current address in Trumpo's hair."

    20. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You have no idea what you are talking about.

      The superdelegates are part of the Democratic National Convention process of the Democratic Party.

      There really isn't any equivalent for the Republican National Convention of the Republican Party.

      The DNC's superdelegates did not choose Trump, as he was not running as a Democratic Party nominee candidate.

      Even if you meant to refer to the electoral college electors, you're still completely wrong.

    21. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      [plant fake leads in phone] Bonus points if you can capture video streams of the Feds digging up a park or walking into a storage locker filled with decorations.

      Double points if they inadvertently find Jimmy Hoffa.

    22. Re: So, the gist of it is... by stjobe · · Score: 2

      Republic, not democracy.

      Those terms are not mutually exclusive. The US is a federal presidential constitutional republic, but that does not mean it isn't also a democracy - i.e. a government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

      There are precious few direct democracies in the world, Switzerland perhaps counts since they do tend to have nation-wide votes on issues more often than other countries, but most western countries- including the US - are representative democracies. Apart from that they can be monarchies (UK, Sweden), republics (US, France), or some other form of state; but they are all of them democracies.

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    23. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republic (from the Latin "Res publica", or public affair) just means that there is no monarchy. The United States is a republic (having a president as head of state rather than a monarch) that is also a representative democracy, since the people elect representatives into office.

    24. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bull horns work well.

    25. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      With all of the liberals and Jewish dudes calling in bomb threats to synagogues and knocking over Jewish headstones, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a false flag operation as well. Fucking crazy humans, the lot of you.

      Manipulation of the public is way too easy, and by that I mean manipulation of individuals on a large scale. If you want to generate sympathy for your side and hatred of the other all you have to do is secretly attack your own side in a very public way that makes it easy for people to virtue signal. See the reference above or all of those black college students hanging up nooses in trees and painting the n-word on walls, fake rape accusations, etc. IT happens more often than you might think. Hate is so gauche that the people who thrive on it have to manufacture it now. The sad part is how much you all eat it up.

      The really awesome part would be if these people thought they were being paid by Soros to generate interest in taking down the government but they were actually being paid by Trump's people to make the public upset at the liberal fringe elements.

      It would be funny if it weren't so plausible.

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      When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
    26. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      I hope your kids date black people and have little mixed babies...

      If only everyone would do the same, we wouldn't have a race problem in this country any more. Racist fucks like you would be the same "race" as everyone else.

      Maybe we could hate people for being ignorant and hateful instead of skin color. Would be great to see you up against the wall first.

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      When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
    27. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What parallel dimension are you posting from where it's always "opposite day"? You should seek some help for your mental condition, although I'm pretty sure you're a lost cause by now.

    28. Re:So, the gist of it is... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      According to the latest vault 7 https://sputniknews.com/world/... (I simply could not resist using that particular news resource), grabbing phones is not about getting stuff off the phone, it is about getting stuff on the phone. You take someone's phone and then hand them back, 'your', phone because they do not own it any more, it just spies on them from there in on.

      Once they take your digital gear, just accept it as lost for ever, buy an new replacement (it has to be new) and sell the old, pretty guaranteed to be hacked one, on ebay and let them spy on someone else. Same when travelling through customs, they do not take you phone to get data off, they take it to get a series of programs on. Been through customs with you phone and you lost sight of it for a couple of minutes, well, sucker you should have dumped it right away because the chances that phone that someone else now owns has been spying on you since then.

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    29. Re:So, the gist of it is... by namgge · · Score: 1

      A predecessor to Twitter was the 'telephone tree'. The leader phoned N supporters, who each phoned N supporters, etc.

    30. Re: So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      So far the prosecutors record is 3/6 (for felonies). Two weren't the brightest bulbs, the third got real unlucky. That's not counting people I met subsequent to their involvement with courts. Couldn't begin to calculate my 'got away with it total', depends on how you count the counts.

      It would be fair to say: I don't have an excessive respect for the law. Also mild case of explosive pyromania as a teen (nothing bigger than two kilos of explosive). I know I've dodged some bullets, once spotted 'shiney shoes' on the way up to the Sierra and detoured (pre 215). Garden was fine, there was a flash of mutual recognition (they saw me 'see them') but I didn't lead them anywhere. I think they were looking for tweak labs, not gardens in any case. It's kind of obvious tweak is not my drug of choice, people my age that do tweak look like they're 3/4 dead already.

      Even as a kid: I've walked out of parties when people started getting ready to take pictures of felonious activities.

      The asshats mistake in this case was allowing themselves to be used as props. Never allow yourself to be a pawn in somebody else's conspiracy. Keep your mouth shut, never record details, watch your use of tech. They did everything exactly wrong, to say nothing of being misinformed idiots in the first place.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    31. Re:So, the gist of it is... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be surprised if this was a false flag operation as well.

      I once thought the same thing about the "birther" movement. It was so stupid and inane, that I figured it was secretly pushed by liberals to make Republicans look like shrill dysfunctional idiots. But now the leading birther is in the oval office, so I guess I was wrong.

      I think you are wrong too. Republicans think that people on the Left are disorderly self-entitled rule breaking jerks, and these rioters confirmed all those perceptions, which was stupid and counterproductive. But there are a lot of stupid people out there, and I am more willing to assume that the rioters were stupid than to assume that Trump's supporters were intelligent enough to pull off a false flag op.

    32. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the post you're replying to said was that Sanders would have won the primary if it wasn't for super delegates. And hence would have run against Trump.

      And, IMO, would have been elected president vs Hilary.

    33. Re:So, the gist of it is... by ichthus · · Score: 2

      Or, make sure that when George Soros hires you to protest, he also provides you with a phone.

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    34. Re:So, the gist of it is... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      we need to make them really work, to the point of being overloaded.

      imagine if 10,000 people showed up and were 'violent enough' (not that I even believe this crap) to get their phones stolen. yes, stolen, not 'seized'. and they put nothing but encrypted random bytes on it.

      the so-called authorities would spend man-years trying to get nothing.

      imagine if it was 100k or 1M people.

      the ultimate DOS of the feds that no longer work for us, but seem to be a rogue arm of the government.

      it would bring a big smile to my face to imagine them trying to decrypt pure randomness.

      basically, we have to make it too expensive for them to keep doing this shit to the population.

      problem is: the US has lost its ability to really rebel against its own illegal government. we don't really do much in the way of protesting, and the gov guys do all they can to scare us into NOT doing this. and most people are easily controlled by fear (understandably so). so this would not really happen in the current climate. we are not hungry enough to really rebel as a whole, yet. maybe it will get to that point, though. trend surely shows that direction.

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    35. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      A) There was no riot. B) I'm pretty sure there have been riots before phones. These are just the obvious ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    36. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      You think Trump can't coordinate a false flag op? His entire fucking life has been a false flag op.

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    37. Re:So, the gist of it is... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Been through customs with you phone and you lost sight of it for a couple of minutes, well, sucker you should have dumped it right away because the chances that phone that someone else now owns has been spying on you since then.

      So I will just take a nandroid before I fly and then restore it on the plane, easy peasy. It takes more than a couple of minutes to make a new backup. And if I actually use encryption then I get a password which they would have to know in order to fake my backup.

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    38. Re:So, the gist of it is... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It appears that you are projecting your own dark fantasies onto a strawman of a conveniently different political team for the one you are cheering hard for. Reality is far more mundane than your id with all the safeties off.
      All that protocols of the elders of Zion shit you are spouting isn't likely to be anywhere near as true now as it was in the 1920s. False flag stuff? WTF is wrong with your head? Is reality really so boring that you have to project conspiracies about how the weakest in society are controlling the fuck out of everything? Isn't a billionaire in the White House enough of a reality check for you?


      So sorry, not funny and nowhere near plausible.

    39. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Bartles · · Score: 1

      Why will that help you? If you get arrested for firebombing a bank and they find a burner phone on you and crack it, it's still evidence.

    40. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're only doing what the losers did when Obama won... threw temper tantrums. Oh, sorry, the tea baggers are entitled to throw tantrums because they're conservatives and playing the victim, which they accuse everyone else of doing, comes naturally to them. Sorry, forgot about that point.

    41. Re:So, the gist of it is... by future+assassin · · Score: 1

      Very few people had phones in Poland at that time. Usually it was a few people meeting at someones house and then passing the info along as it spread though the city through small get togethers.

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    42. Re:So, the gist of it is... by n329619 · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, install the Selfie Swap App to ensure all your photos with a face are automatically replace with Trump's face when being arrested.

      Bonus points if the photos went to their collection and then get leaked.

    43. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2, Informative

      The leading Birther was Hillary, during the 2008 primary. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    44. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then how are you going to coordinate the riot?

      There have been plenty of riots throughout history before we had cellphones ya dingus.

    45. Re:So, the gist of it is... by veron.claudio · · Score: 1

      "Then how are you going to coordinate the riot?" beforehand, carefully.

    46. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not direct democracy though. Regionalized proportional popular vote elects the electoral college, which then elects the President.

      Or didn't you know there's more than one kind of democratic rule?

    47. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was pre cell phone, then where did all the pics come from, liar?

    48. Re:So, the gist of it is... by knorthern+knight · · Score: 2

      > magine if 10,000 people showed up and were 'violent enough' (not
      > that I even believe this crap) to get their phones stolen. yes, stolen,
      > not 'seized'. and they put nothing but encrypted random bytes on it.

      > the so-called authorities would spend man-years trying to get nothing.

      > imagine if it was 100k or 1M people.

      Or you may be in a similar situation, and if you're in a situation like
      That, there's only one thing you can do:

      Walk into the shrink wherever you are, just walk in, say, "Shrink, . . . you
      Can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant", and walk out.

      You know, if one person, just one person, does it, they may think he's
      Really sick and they won't take him.

      And if two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and
      They won't take either of them.

      And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin' in, singin'
      A bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? They may think it's an Organization!

      And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day . . .
      Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends,
      They may think it's a MOVEMENT, and that's what it is: THE ALICE'S
      RESTAURANT ANTI-MASSACREE MOVEMENT! . . . and all you gotta do to join is to
      Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar.

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      I'm not repeating myself
      I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
    49. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Precisely. Trump won because most people can't stand the losers on the opposition who think they have a right to silence anybody who disagrees with them, through violence. Just remember what happened when Trump was giving rallies, the opposition 'protestors' were blocking roads to prevent people from simply LISTENING to Trump. Oh, the humanity! Somebody saying something I disagree with! Somebody LISTENING to something I disagree with! We must stop them!

    50. Re:So, the gist of it is... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      I'm good with this leading where it goes. We'll see who laughs last.

      I'll bet you're wrong about who was paying the rioters bills. These were the usual black block suspects.

      You might be surprised to learn that you don't have to pay people to protest Trump.

    51. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe you could stop forcing yourselves into white people's living space, and then we wouldn't have a 'race problem' either? Why are you here? Why don't you want to live around your own race, in your own country?
      Why do you believe that white people don't have a right to simply live around their own kind? You obviously believe white people make superior countries to your race's country/ies , otherwise why are you so desperate to live around white people?

    52. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the self-reply. AC to avoid libtard mods. Trump is a brilliant coordinator. He will go down as the greatest president since Jackson and I expect we'll see him on currency. False flag is strategy and will help him with his rise to power.

      - Zero__Kelvin -

    53. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Woah dude! What have you been smoking? I am talking about the actual news. Take a look:

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/03...

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspe...

      And here is the definition of false flag:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Two people responsible for the hundreds of threats against Jewish community centers, synagogues, and cemeteries as well as destruction of property, etc. The second link reveals this Jewish guy is responsible for threats all over the world, not just in the US. The media pushed hard for this story to be part of the "racists and anti-semites following Trump and Bannon, emboldened and galvanized into action, blah blah blah." Turns out it was the farthest thing from.

      That doesn't preclude the Trump supporters or organization from doing the same thing with stirring up dissent, which was my point. Create a crisis, capitalize on it. You know, a page out of ol' Saul's book. Jesus, I keep forgetting how incredibly stupid you are. Don't try to figure out what this means, it will only confuse you.

      I don't even know what the fuck the elders of Zion is, I'm just quoting the news, the Israeli police, and US justice department. What kind of filters are you running in your cortex that has you off on such a tangent? You need to clean them out, they're toxic and you can't see reality because of what you have overlaid on your perceptions.

      Finally and most importantly, I don't have a "team." I am decidedly not one of you, if you will pardon the expression, fucking stupid morons that think a political party is going to save them. I don't play that game and I certainly don't see either party serving my interests or representing me in the slightest. So, yeah, keep on with your presupposed opposition, preconceived notions, and crazy internal monologue. If it helps you make enemies and completely misunderstand the world around you then I guess its working as you hoped?

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    54. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I was just calling my prayer list. Must be someone else using the landline who was coordinating the protest.

    55. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Bold assertion. Where do those chanting morons get their pot money? Many individuals have been filmed in many cities, there is clearly a roaming cluster fuck of fuckwits.

      Now that the cops have all these phones, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole actually goes. Good news...

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    56. Re:So, the gist of it is... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Bold assertion. Where do those chanting morons get their pot money? Many individuals have been filmed in many cities, there is clearly a roaming cluster fuck of fuckwits.

      Now that the cops have all these phones, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole actually goes. Good news...

      It is MUCH more bold to claim you have to pay people to protest Trump than to claim you don't have to pay them. Still waiting for my paycheck.

    57. Re:So, the gist of it is... by future+assassin · · Score: 1

      Phone booth cameras.

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    58. Re:So, the gist of it is... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I don't even know what the fuck the elders of Zion is

      Look it up and you'll see why people think you are full of shit, because this "the weakings will take over the world" crap you were spouting has been done before. Even Henry Ford was pushing that turd, that's how high profile it was. You would have heard about it in school without even having to take history but you've forgotten. It's an extremely apt thing to remind yourself of now with all the "fake news" stuff floating about, since it was an incredible effective piece of fake news used as an excuse for a lot of things.

      fucking stupid morons that think a political party is going to save them

      I'm not one of those but from what you've written you appear to be parroting tea party shit so look very much like one of those fucking stupid morons that think a political party is going to save them - hence my accusation. Liberals did this, Jews did that, false flag fantasies - where the fuck are you getting this shit from if not from being force fed politics from the far side of crazy? Follow the money and follow the power. People don't get money or power by playing the victim and pretending to bomb their own place of worship.

    59. Re: So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet his first bigley deal failed today.

      Loser in Chief.

    60. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Agripa · · Score: 1

      ...if you're going to a protest, bring a burner phone. Bonus points if you set the wallpaper to goatse.

      But that would be evidence that you planned ahead.

    61. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Many have been filmed at protest after protest, around the nation. Like gromit deadheads.

      Been happening for years, but Obama's justice department had no interest, so they got overconfident. As I said in another post, conspiracy laws are a bitch, the crime spreads like herpes.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    62. Re:So, the gist of it is... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Many have been filmed at protest after protest, around the nation. Like gromit deadheads.

      Been happening for years, but Obama's justice department had no interest, so they got overconfident. As I said in another post, conspiracy laws are a bitch, the crime spreads like herpes.

      Yes, many have been filmed protesting. But no one has been filmed getting paid. That is just a right-wing nutjob conspiracy.

    63. Re:So, the gist of it is... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Protesting is not a crime, even if it's a hobby or a job.

      Affray or rioting is a different matter and professional protesters not only stay well away from that but won't associate with anyone suspected of being involved.

      I've seen protesters truss up vandals and hand them over to the cops. It all depends on the level of tolerance and how well organised the violent sorts are, but the best advice I've ever seen given is "if people start that shit, don't hang around to watch"

    64. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      We shall see. The rioters phones are now being examined.

      Who can afford to travel the nation just to 'protest'? If they were being supported, and they rioted someone not used to jail is in line for big trouble.

      People on political payrolls (Hillary's) have already been filmed at multiple 'protests' in multiple cities, appearing to coordinate the violent ones.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    65. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      If it's 'a job' and they cross the line to riot, than their employer has potential liability. They had better have watched their words _very_ carefully.

      Conspiracy laws are a bitch. Soros could have been careful, or he could have been overconfident that his side would continue to own the justice department.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    66. Re:So, the gist of it is... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Who can afford to travel the nation just to 'protest'?

      A lot of people, especially local people. A lot more people apparently can afford to travel to DC to protest than can afford to travel to attend Trump's inauguration.

      People on political payrolls ... appearing to coordinate the violent ones.

      Bullshit. Link to non-RW media video or STFU.

  3. All 100 attendees by SlashDread · · Score: 5, Funny

    became violent protestors during his inauguration? WTF did the man even say?

    1. Re:All 100 attendees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

    2. Re:All 100 attendees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't uphold it at all. He put it front and center to stand on its own.

    3. Re:All 100 attendees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, but I did watch one of the protesters light someone's hair on fire.

      Literally. With a lighter. They were damn sneaky about it, too, but they were caught on video.

    4. Re:All 100 attendees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when the wind knocked it down, he proceeded to wipe his feet all over it, like it was a door mat.

  4. Trump: I Will Get On My Knees If You Will Vote YES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, only applied to the women in the office. But still. I read it online, so you know damn well it's TRUE!

    Look bad? Nah. This is the new normal.

    But at least for one, Putin is not somehow DIRECTLY involved.

  5. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Feds gain access to cell phones which may provide evidence of Trump's link to Russian election hacking
    -CNN

  6. Rioter Cell branding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First poost! So, just what is a Rioter Cell Phone (in caps in OP for some reason), and does it run a special version software?

    1. Re:Rioter Cell branding... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Didn't Motorola make one with that name?

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  7. Updated secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fully updated iPhones more secure.

  8. Two things: by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Funny

    All of the Rioter Cell Phones were locked, which requires more time-sensitive efforts to try to obtain the data," Jennifer Kerkhoff, an assistant United States attorney, wrote.

    Every last one of the seized phones were locked? That seems hardly representative of the general population, although I suppose "violent protesters" may indeed be more security conscious.

    Jennifer Kerkhoff. J. Kerkhoff. I mean, no surprise in her career selection of prosecuting attorney after what must've been some pretty tough early years in school.

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    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She could marry a Russian, keep her last name and name their kid Jakov.

    2. Re:Two things: by iggymanz · · Score: 1, Troll

      Hilary's thug wranglers told them to do that when they were hired

    3. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every last one of the seized phones were locked? That seems hardly representative of the general population, although I suppose "violent protesters" may indeed be more security conscious.

      I'm not sure I agree, everyone I know has pin/swipe/fingerprint, especially on iPhone.

    4. Re:Two things: by sound+vision · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't remember ever borrowing or watching someone open their phone and there wasn't a lock on it. Yes, an actual lock with some kind of code, not just "slide to unlock". Actually, and I'm really really thinking deeply now, I did see one phone without a lock on it. It was a flip phone that was owned by my mother and never used.

      I would wager that the number of unlocked phones at a violent protests is about the same as the number of flip phones. Very low, but non-zero. Will you see one in a sample of 100? Maybe, maybe not.

      Now, what may have happened to skew the sample is that people who unlocked their phones for the cops weren't arrested. Or, their phones weren't confiscated as evidence.

    5. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They weren't violent. That was a corporate media lie. They love Trump so they spew lies to help him. Just look at the fake accusations they're making now without any evidence about how he is a Putin Puppet. We all know it is a fact, but there's no evidence. By making accusations now without any evidence, they're hurting the case for when the evidence is found. They are supporting Trump so hard.

    6. Re:Two things: by belthize · · Score: 1

      Well I've tried unsuccessfully several times now to take a picture of my phone with my phone. I just can't seem to move it fast enough. But if I succeeded you would have been able to increment the number of phones you'd seen without a lock by one.

      My wallet is in one back pocket, phone in another. Neither has a lock, I'd be a lot more concerned if somebody stole my wallet. You can buy things with what's inside, with my phone you can call folks like the plumber, see pictures of my dog or the house I'm remodeling or, if really bored, play Sodoku..

    7. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Try a mirror?
      2. They can use your phone to call in illegal shit to the police (threats and such), call in pizza, download porn, etc. All will be linked to you.

    8. Re: Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this dude up! "everyone I know." heh. Virtually no one I know reads /. ... And most don't have their phone locked... But there's no way I'd be silly enough to believe that my sample bias is representative of car burning protesters...

    9. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every last one of the seized phones were locked? That seems hardly representative of the general population, although I suppose "violent protesters" may indeed be more security conscious.

      Reckon they already copied the data on all the unlocked phones, so the warrant lets them:

      1) force unlocks on the remaining phones

      2) remove culpability on the phones already accessed prior to the warrant issue

    10. Re:Two things: by buss_error · · Score: 1

      Hilary's thug wranglers told them to do that when they were hired

      Impossible. Every body knows Trumps Russian assassins killed all of Hillery's thug wranglers right after they killed those three million Mass. residents that illegally voted in New Hampshire. That was Putin's "congratulations" present to all the Trumpanzees.

      Now, for a serious question; Is there anyone at all that really thinks this? Because wow man, you dudes are supposed to be way too unhip to trip.

      Please come back to Planet Consensus reality, your family misses you.

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    11. Re:Two things: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick impromptu poll at my job ~45 employees, 26 asked.

      phone not locked 19 not locked.
      phone locked 7. Locked mostly to prevent children from playing with. 1 locked to prevent girlfriend from snooping.

      Mine.... not locked.

  9. Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Or better yet, just don't violently riot because your candidate fairly lost an election.

    Time and time again we've seen recent leftist-organized protests turn violent. This inauguration rioting is just one case. Another notable case is that of the Ferguson rioting that occurred near St. Louis several years ago.

    The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug. The police officer did the only reasonable thing given the circumstances and the violence of the attack, and defended himself using deadly force. Leftists threw an unjustified shit fit over this justifiable act of self defense, they rioted, and serious property damage resulted.

    Another case involved the riots in Baltimore during 2015.

    If leftists chose to practice peaceful, civilized protesting, then they wouldn't devolve into riots so often. If they didn't devolve into riots so often, then these leftists wouldn't find themselves being arrested and their phones confiscated.

    1. Re:Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're practically crying!"

    2. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug.

      Actually, what has recently been revealed is that no violent robbery occurred, and the police released an edited video just to perpetuate their lies.

      What we did learn, however, is that the Department of Justice was able to present a copious report showing the level of abuses inflicted upon the citizens of Ferguson due to a city government that was not accountable to the people, and a police department that actually induced riots by its hardline stance of oppression.

      Another case involved the riots in Baltimore during 2015.

      You mean after the murder of Freddie Gray by the thugs in blue?

      Another police department with documented abuses of the public.

      Add in the NYPD, the LAPD, Chicago PD, Cincinnati, that South Carolina shooting, and the abuses in the prison system, and you start to think that maybe law enforcement has a severe problem with how it treats the people it is supposed to serve and protect.

      Oh well, at least the worst Sheriff in America was voted out of office. Of course, now we have another one, who insists that pregnant inmates remain handcuffed while giving birth. Don't you feel wonderful about that?

      Maybe the problem isn't where you think it is.

    3. Re:Or just don't violently riot. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Let em stew. The more disconnected from reality they become the better.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    4. Re:Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Can an SJW say more than 20 words in a row without "fuck" or "cunt"?

      a one...
      a twoooo..
      a thrrrreee..

      No.

    5. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But but but those people are poor peons so we don't give a fuck about them.

      It's like the big heroin epidemic. All the rich white people didn't give a shit, because it was an inner city poor black people problem. Until their rich spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy heroin. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was black people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.

      We have a senator in PA who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a white people problem now and it affected his household.

      Fucking hypocrites.

    6. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug.

      Actually, what has recently been revealed is that no violent robbery occurred, and the police released an edited video just to perpetuate their lies.

      What we did learn, however, is that the Department of Justice was able to present a copious report showing the level of abuses inflicted upon the citizens of Ferguson due to a city government that was not accountable to the people, and a police department that actually induced riots by its hardline stance of oppression.

      No, that's no what "we learned."

      What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)

      The cops didn't "edit the video to make it look bad", they edited the video to leave out endless hours of pointless footage of a store which had nothing to do with the case at hand. But the recently revealed video is just another bit of proof that his Mother, and "the community", were absolutely 100% full of shit when they claimed he was "just an innocent little boy doing nothing wrong."
      The guy was selling weed, and while I don't think that should be a crime, it IS a crime. And if he'd have tried walking on the sidewalk like a normal person, instead of strolling down the middle of the road being a dick about it, that Cop may have very well ignored him completely.

      I've lived in St. Louis, and lived there during the whole Ferguson affair. The Ferguson cops are pieces of shit. But don't buy the "liberal media" story of what actually happened, because it's about 90% bullshit. I had two co-workers (yes, black) who lived right near where the rioting was, and they had to take time off work so they could stay home and make sure nobody robbed their apartments. There was a shit-load of looting going on, far more than the news reported, and most of the people victimized were the poor, black residents of the area.
      Hell, the crowds even burned down the wrong gas station at one point, and there were several locally owned shops that got torched as well.

    7. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump LOST the election.

      Within the long established electoral system of the United States of America, there is just one election that matters when it comes to selecting a president and a vice president: the votes cast by the electors of the United States Electoral College.

      In 2016, Donald J. Trump received 304 of the electoral votes. His main opponent received only 227. Thus Trump won the election.

      The popular vote is pretty much irrelevant.

    8. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You're a moron. Trump won the election and was elected to the office of President of the United States of America by the electors.

      Please present any evidence to the contrary.

    9. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      But but but those people are poor peons so we don't give a fuck about them.

      It's like the big heroin epidemic. All the rich white people didn't give a shit, because it was an inner city poor black people problem. Until their rich spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy heroin. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was black people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.

      We have a senator in PA who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a white people problem now and it affected his household.

      Fucking hypocrites.

      Just so you see how ridiculous your rants look:

      But but but those people are poor white peons so we don't give a fuck about them.

      It's like the big drug epidemic. All the black people didn't give a shit, because it was an Appalachian poor white people problem. Until their spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy crack. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was white people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.

      We have a Mayor in DC who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a black people problem now and it affected his household.

      All lives matter, Fucking hypocrites - only Black Lives Matter.

    10. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by lgw · · Score: 1

      You have the worst case of Trump Derangement Syndrome of anyone on /., just so you know. For your own mental health, become less emotionally involved in all this before you have a breakdown.

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    11. Re:Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A typical butt-hurt leftist response to a well written post. No wonder you guys resort to violence so quickly. You're incapable of defending your position with facts, so you lash out in prehistoric fashion.

    12. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're wrong. Muslim lives don't matter, because if they blew themselves up they think they get 72 virgins. That's why we need to keep Muslims out if America, and find some way to get the ones who already snuck in here back to Mecca before they go all jihadi on us.

    13. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's no what "we learned."

      What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)

      So, he took something that wasn't his and didn't pay for it. How is that not stealing again?

    14. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's no what "we learned."

      What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)

      Oh gosh, such a horrible act, instead of burning one bit of dead plant matter, he wanted to burn another! I wonder why the police didn't lead with that...oh wait, because they couldn't use it to make themselves look like they were doing their job.

      The cops didn't "edit the video to make it look bad", they edited the video to leave out endless hours of pointless footage of a store which had nothing to do with the case at hand.

      Oh? Is that why they concocted the story of a violent robbery, which wait a second, the officer didn't even know about?

      But the recently revealed video is just another bit of proof that his Mother, and "the community", were absolutely 100% full of shit when they claimed he was "just an innocent little boy doing nothing wrong."

      Not really, no. As wrongs go, you've only indicated that the government war on marijuana, continues to be more harmful. A sad story, and probably racist too.

      The guy was selling weed, and while I don't think that should be a crime, it IS a crime.

      Well, at least you have a small iota of sense. But yet the police didn't accuse him of selling weed, they accused him of a made-up crime.

      There must have been a reason.

      And if he'd have tried walking on the sidewalk like a normal person, instead of strolling down the middle of the road being a dick about it, that Cop may have very well ignored him completely.

      Oh? So now you're not going with the story that he suspected they were criminals? That's the one that Ferguson Police told us.

      I've lived in St. Louis, and lived there during the whole Ferguson affair. The Ferguson cops are pieces of shit.

      Exactly. Good on you for realizing and admitting that. The above poster back at 5:39 didn't admit to that.

      But don't buy the "liberal media" story of what actually happened, because it's about 90% bullshit.

      Liberal media isn't here, in case you haven't read the thread. What we have here is the people trying to concoct the narrative that there was nothing wrong in Ferguson, Missouri, that warranted a riot or protest of any kind. And the sad thing is the some of them were called to testify under oath, and the "prosecuting" attorney knew they were lying.

      I had two co-workers (yes, black) who lived right near where the rioting was, and they had to take time off work so they could stay home and make sure nobody robbed their apartments. There was a shit-load of looting going on, far more than the news reported, and most of the people victimized were the poor, black residents of the area.

      Hell, the crowds even burned down the wrong gas station at one point, and there were several locally owned shops that got torched as well.

      And that shows how useful the local police, and even the state police units brought in were, doesn't it?

      Nobody's going to think of the victims, the whole area is just being written off as trash, without even a legitimate grievance behind their actions.

      Meanwhile, your average riot over a losing (or winning) sports game, that's just swell.

      Oh well, at least Florida is making it even easier to stand your ground.

    15. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      So by your own admission be want harming anyone, as was involved in the distribution of good times and chill. What was your point again? Bear in mind that you don't have a valid one before answering.

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    16. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are the moron douchebag. Trump lost the popular vote. That means he was not the people's choice. There is no way around that. Claiming he "won" completely ignores the fact that he is in office despite the majority of Americans not wanting him ... most of us wish he would hurry up and self destruct. So go fuck off you Trumpdick-sucking zero.

    17. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by ogdenk · · Score: 2

      No, Trump won. You're just butt-hurt because California doesn't get to decide who the president is for the rest of the United States. You seem to forget that the US is really 50 countries that decided to form a union. The Electoral College was set up to make sure one state can't exert undue influence over the rest of the US. While Clinton got more in the popular vote due to rabid idiots in a few blue states, the majority of the US did not want her ass in office.

      Gary Johnson didn't win but you don't see me trying to alter reality to make it seem like he did and it's all a big conspiracy by neo-nazi, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic racists.

      Perhaps the DNC shouldn't have screwed Bernie?

    18. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Bartles · · Score: 2

      What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)

      Umm. No, that's not what happened. The only time he left the store with the cigars, he strong armed the clerk on the way out the door.

    19. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just so you see how ridiculous your rants look:

      And to show you how your approach is wrong, let me...show you.

      But but but those people are poor white peons so we don't give a fuck about them.

      That's true as well. Especially true even. Just look at Trumpcare. Totally shits on poor whites as well. But who cares about them?

      It's like the big drug epidemic. All the black people didn't give a shit, because it was an Appalachian poor white people problem. Until their spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy crack. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was white people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.

      And thus it went.

      Thanks for noticing.

      We have a Mayor in DC who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a black people problem now and it affected his household.

      one in Pennsylvania.

      All lives matter, Fucking hypocrites - only Black Lives Matter.

      And this doesn't work at all, since instead of showing you value them and their argument, you try to justify ignoring them instead.

      It's a rather tired strain, as you don't care about anybody's life. Your only purpose was ridicule and disdain.

      Grasp that, if you dare. You don't convince anybody to change their chance. You only reinforce the notion that you don't care, you are enraged that somebody points out to you the problems of the world that are ignored, and thus increase the problem.

      Me, at least I've tried to wake you up.

    20. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which explains the police version of the events in that store in no way at all.

    21. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you thinking smoking weed, or selling it is "wrong", then fuck you. Illegal yes, but that doesn't make it wrong. But sure, whatever you must tell yourself to justify a cop shooting someone for jaywalking.

    22. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha holy shit this made my day.

      Fuck off, imbecile.

    23. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Trump won. You're just butt-hurt because California doesn't get to decide who the president is for the rest of the United States.

      You're just butthurt that California alone shows how deeply rejected Trump was. A lot of people are butt-hurt over California. It's only a few decades since Reagan, and Republicans are losing there like hotcakes. Was Appalachia REALLY worth that bargain with the devil?

      You seem to forget that the US is really 50 countries that decided to form a union.

      You seem to forget that the US was formed from 13 original colonies, and added a few more over time, and much of its governmental nature is very ill-defined.

      There are lots of reasons to challenge it, and incidentally, they pre-date Trump, let alone his running for office.

      The Electoral College was set up to make sure one state can't exert undue influence over the rest of the US.

      The Electoral College was set up in a haphazard fashion because they thought (at first), that the top 2 vote getters would work as President and Vice-President.

      While Clinton got more in the popular vote due to rabid idiots in a few blue states, the majority of the US did not want her ass in office.

      Clinton got more in the popular vote across the country, and if you're making assertions about the majority, you'll have to remember that a majority of the US didn't vote. For anyone.

      Gary Johnson didn't win but you don't see me trying to alter reality to make it seem like he did and it's all a big conspiracy by neo-nazi, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic racists.

      That's ok, nobody cares about you, or Gary Johnson. We care about Trump, and Trump is trying to alter reality to make it seem like a landslide carried him into office, and it's all a big conspiracy by liberal, communist, immigrant, criminal, illegal, atheists, to cause him to lose the popular vote and have to slink into office like the slug he is.

      Perhaps the DNC shouldn't have screwed Bernie?

      Perhaps Bernie lovers should admit he wasn't really a Democrat, but running as one out of convenience?

    24. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      ... as you don't care about anybody's life. Your only purpose was ridicule and disdain.

      I have great disdain for the decline of the middle class since I have kids and feel, backed up by many statistics, that their world will be much worse than mine. I have I have great disdain for special privileges for anyone - me included. I certainly would disagree that I don't care about anybody's life. Parents rarely don't care about the world their kids will inherit, though you could make a case that the baby boomers are close. If you want to point out that I ridicule BLM you would be correct. That movement is artificially created as a means to keep the 99% arguing among themselves while the 1% steal ever more IMHO.

    25. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Bartles · · Score: 1

      That is the textbook definition of robbery.

  10. Approximately half the rioters phones were taken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's right there in the summary, you don't even have to click through.
      approximately half of the protestors prosecuted with rioting or inciting a riot had their phones taken by authorities

  11. AKA: We couldn't charge them with anything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... so we need to find something we can charge them with and also suck up all their contacts so we can watch them too.

  12. RICO by sycodon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can we say RICO?

    If they can establish the violence was planned and coordinated, how many years is that?

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    When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    1. Re: RICO by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can say it, you just have no idea what it actually applies to, because there is absolutely zero chance that there was any racketeering involved. You seem to think RICO is about crowd mobs rather than Italian ones.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    2. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL he's at a +2. Fuck people are stupid as shit man.

    3. Re:RICO by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 1

      Can we say RICO?

      No.
      No we can't.

    4. Re: RICO by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      If some of these protesters are being paid to do this, and if they have done it before (within the last 10 years), and if there is a common plaintiff then yes, there could be RICO charges.

      That being said, its a super long shot and there would have to be a huge investigation into who was funding this kind of activity. This would not be like the Italian mob where their presence was known and their ability to avoid prosecution was a thorn in the side of law enforcement. This would be the discovery of a whole new organization, their objective being subversive attacks on the American political system from a faux grass roots perspective. A totally different animal than profit motivated mobsters.

      With Trump in office, RICO charges would be the least of their worries.

      --
      When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
    5. Re:RICO by msauve · · Score: 1

      I'll give the OP the benefit of doubt, and say he probably meant to reference conspiracy, which would mean greater penalties than simple disturbing the peace or incitement to riot, etc. charges.

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      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    6. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No secret at all. Your media just won't tell you, so it's a big mystery to you.
      Let me help you out here. Funding: Soros. Coordination logistics: Obama's got a few you could look into: "Organizing for Action," "Priorities USA," couple others.

      They made such a big stink about the Clinton foundation receiving a couple million in illegal donations... Obama ones are receiving x100 that, and no mention from the CNN/ NY times
      You don't suddenly get hundreds of coordinated "protesters" showing up in the same outfits, carrying latest model encrypted cell phones, and all having top-quality lawyers.

    7. Re: RICO by dbIII · · Score: 1

      This would not be like the Italian mob where their presence was known and their ability to avoid prosecution was a thorn in the side of law enforcement

      That was due to a single problem that was skirted around by such complicated things as odd new laws. Hoover.
      The dirty little secret about why the IRS took down Capone is because they were the agency he did not bribe.

    8. Re: RICO by gl4ss · · Score: 0

      "You don't suddenly get hundreds of coordinated "protesters" showing up in the same outfits, carrying latest model encrypted cell phones, and all having top-quality lawyers."

      oh actually yeah you do. thats just like a 1 fb post.
      and if you have 10k protesters then 100 will fit that, no problem.

      you seem to misunderstand that a) theres people who just want to fuck shit up and go to protests just to fuck shit up b) it's a hobby/lifestyle for them c) they have guides some of them follow.

      very few really to be honest. even finland has 100+ people violent protest at least once a year, kind of organized.

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      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    9. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "You don't suddenly get hundreds of coordinated "protesters" showing up

      Trump has said many times that the hate surprises him. Is he really that stupid? I have never truly hated any president before him, but I find him loathsome and vile. Had he come to power because he believed what he was doing was right and was taking ethical steps to achieve that view, then I could maybe respect him, if not agree with him. He came to power by forging a sword made of hate, fear, innuendo, lies, manipulation, false allegations, bigotry, and misogyny.

      In short he came to power not by appealing to the better angels of our nature, but the worst. Once he got there, he tripled down.

      You could ask the question whether he has any decency, but by now you should know the answer.

      The fact that people will protest should not surprise him. The fact that doing so may blow up into uncontrolled anger should also not, though I would ask people to try not to protest if they are that angry. Go home, turn off the news, and do something else.

      Then why you are calmer try to find a better way. This country needs leaders with a moral center. Trump is our leader because we foolishly let him become it. Yes, Russia and Comey helped a lot and likely tipped it, but it shouldn't have even been close.

      Sure I voted for Hillary, but at times I wonder if that is all I should have done. (I sent a small amount of money, and foolishly tried to convince a handful at work, who already had very firmly set beliefs.)

      But what if I had done more? What if I had gone to the democratic meetings? What if I took the time to speak, to make phone calls, to really try? What if a million others did the same? Would we be in a different place now?

      The cause of our time is to find a way not to just complain, but to do. Life isn't fair. We can accept that and work within the system, or we can continue to grow bitter and get nothing done. It is a difficult thing, but it is a critical thing that we must do.

    10. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure think about Trump a lot. Are you sure you don't want to have sex with him? It sure sounds like you're trying to repress it.

    11. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure think about Trump a lot. Are you sure you don't want to have sex with him? It sure sounds like you're trying to repress it.

      There are people that contribute to society. The world is better off for their presence. Then there are people like the poster, who don't fall into that category.

    12. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " He came to power by forging a sword made of hate, fear, innuendo, lies, manipulation, false allegations, bigotry, and misogyny."

      Clinton tried to come to power by forging a sword made of hate, fear, innuendo, lies, manipulation...
      ...and false allegations OF bigotry, and misogyny.

      It was quite efficient too. She didn't win, but you DID believe her lies.

    13. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The problem is that a lot of people in the US (that don't live in the high population centers) have been given the middle finger by the Dems. If you don't live in NYC, LA, the Bay Area, Austin, or a hipster town, for the most part, you had zero voice with the previous administration. If you were living in a rural area, you were the target of Democratic bashing (the "basket of deplorables" quote.) Because a lot of the US has been in a slump without a recovery, they took a chance to vote for Trump, because the Dems would just continue to use them as a whipping boy.

      The Dems had a candidate who would have trounced Trump left, right, and center. They chose to exercise their "veto" power, go against what the people desired, and nominate Hillary, who is an extremely polarizing figure. Yes, Hillary has/had one of the best political war machines in existance, fueled by Middle Eastern donors, but she turned off so many people, she didn't win. Yes, she won the popular vote, but the people that she insulted were the ones in the rural areas with the electrical college votes, and those people, the "racist, bigoted, KKK-loving, xenophobic, jingoistic, undesirables" were the ones that sealed her fate. Had she not gone on an insult campaign, she likely would be in the White House right now.

    14. Re: RICO by Salgak1 · · Score: 2

      Problem is, RICO has long been abused. A law designed to stop the Mafia and similar criminal organizations has been used to smear political opponents, prosecute anti-abortion activists, and attack corporations over alleged collusion over 'climate change'.

      It's also a favorite tool to employ when a prosecutor or law-enforcement agency wants to grab assets, under criminal AND civil forfeiture. . .

    15. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't abused. It's being used exactly as designed.

      Moral of the story: Don't be a violent criminal shitbag.

      Know why I'm not worried about RICO charges? Because I don't commit crimes.

    16. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you got nothing to hide why worry about the surveillance? Have you ever heard of a thing called politics?

  13. You are thinking of someone else by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The one saying she would get on her knees if you voted the way she wanted was not Trump

    Side note: Liberals are so stupid Snopes had to actually cover this item to explain it was not a real offer....

    Snopes is going soft though; no coverage of the veracity on her level of eye contact or swallowing.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  14. Define "protest" by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Setting fires to cars and smashing windows is not a "protest".

    You would think criminals would already know to use burner phones...

    But then how would these gangsters be able to adequately send a selfie to Instagram in front of a smashed up store or burning vehicle? The cameras on burner phones suck, not to mention it would't have your Starbucks card loaded.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Define "protest" by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      They think they are smart and everybody else is stupid, their * studies profs told them. Overconfidence will get them every time.

      Conspiracy laws are a bitch. The 'crime' spreads like herpes.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    2. Re:Define "protest" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Given that there was a professor at Berkley who decided to tweet a selfie of him after he attacked someone who had already been knocked unconscious, these aren't exactly the most brilliant of criminals.

    3. Re:Define "protest" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that there was a professor at Berkley who decided to tweet a selfie of him after he attacked someone who had already been knocked unconscious, these aren't exactly the most brilliant of criminals.

      I can't find anything about that online. Not even a fake news story. Nothing.

  15. Well ain't that nice... by bobbied · · Score: 1

    DC Police have been going though all the available tape, identifying the protesters that broke the law then pressing felony charges.

    My guess is they are going to grab all the pictures and video off their phones to see if they can ID a few more folks to charge and amass more evidence for the cases they have already charged..

    My advice is.... If you intend to go protest, don't break the law.... If you choose to ignore my advice, I suggest you not take photos and videos of the proceedings and leave your electronic devices (Cell phones, tablets, cameras...) at home. Remember, if you get arrested and they think they have probable cause, they are going to be given a warrant to search your stuff and there won't be much you can do about it.

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    "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    1. Re: Well ain't that nice... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Sure there is ... I can lock my phone. You seem to have missed the fact that they didn't say they have succeeded in unlocking 100 phones. As far as I can tell they have not unlocked any of them successfully. Contrary to popular myth the government isn't magic and they can't easily circumvent solid security. Will they get into them all eventually? Almost certainly not.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    2. Re: Well ain't that nice... by bobbied · · Score: 1

      If you want to believe that's secure, power to you... I don't think I'd count on them not being able to get the necessary data off your device, but it's your risk to take.

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
  16. What a letdown... by burtosis · · Score: 0

    At first I thought this is some real progress! Wow, faith in my country restored! Then I continued reading and found out the phones were seized from protesters and not the trump administration.

    1. Re:What a letdown... by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I really do not see that much of an issue with this.

      The government got a warrant to search the electronic devices. These devices were seized at the time of arrest. Rather than require the owners to unlock the phones - potentially violating our protected right against self-incrimination - they are using third-party software to hack the devices. The government intends - admittedly, as legally required - to share all gathered information with the defense lawyers - and are pledging to delete any information not relevant to the case.

      You can make the argument that some of the people arrested during the riots are innocent. That may be true, but irrelevant to the issue at hand: that the government is searching these devices. You might argue that the government may use the information gleaned from the devices in ways that are not covered by the warrant, and that is a legitimate worry but there is no evidence that is happening. But given that these people were arrested, we should expect the prosecutors to use all available legal means to build a case against the defendants. That they are searching the phones is as much a story if the police had gotten a warrant to seize the defendants diaries (which is to say, not much of a story) .

      The fact is, there were apparently riots during the inauguration. I am no supporter of Trump but that's just shameful; there's nothing wrong with assembly and protest but some people went beyond that. People were arrested and honestly I would expect the government to try them for their actions. There is a lot I find worrisome about Trump's government, but this is not one of them; this is a case where everything seems to be done legitimately and by-the-book.

    2. Re:What a letdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does the inside of your ass look like, anyway?

    3. Re:What a letdown... by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      The fact is, there were apparently riots during the inauguration. I am no supporter of Trump but that's just shameful;

      Yes, supporting trump certainly is shameful.

      The social fabric is not breaking down, trump is tearing it in half. If you think that's not going to lead to riots, think more.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:What a letdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that it wasn't being torn in half well before Trump, think more.

      The bottom line is that there is a lot of bipartisan support for policies that screw us all but you're too busy taking swings at the latest Big Politics pinata to see their roll in it all. Thanks for being a good little sheep.

    5. Re:What a letdown... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If you think that it wasn't being torn in half well before Trump, think more.

      Sure, it was. Only gradually. This is all-at-once. It's not necessary to rip off the bandage. You soak it a little, and then it comes right off.

      The bottom line is that there is a lot of bipartisan support for policies that screw us all

      Trump is substantively different, and if you can't see that, I have to wonder if you're spending your free time ironing your brown shirt.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:What a letdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ironing your brown shirt.

      You can't take the sky from him?

    7. Re:What a letdown... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You can't take the sky from him?

      Shirt, not coat. Big difference.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    8. Re:What a letdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, it was. Only gradually. This is all-at-once. It's not necessary to rip off the bandage. You soak it a little, and then it comes right off.

      The quickest way to heal a wound is to rip the band aid off. Ask any doctor.

      Trump is substantively different, and if you can't see that, I have to wonder if you're spending your free time ironing your brown shirt.

      Being substantively different is the reason why he is the president. If you can't see that, you are dumber than a box of rocks.

    9. Re:What a letdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We agree on a couple of things. A) Riots weren't called for. If riots they were. B) If a legal search warrant was secured and the method exists to break the phone, it is not worse than securing a warrant for the contents of a safe and then physically breaking the safe to get at what's inside.

      What we disagree on: This was political protest, combined with ordinary crime/street thuggery. This was NOT terrorism, and only a fool would think so. What could potentially be on those phones of probative value? Are they going to wrap up a big network of..... what, precisely?

      Aside from that, you're damn straight I'll argue that if the parties involved are innocent this is an unjustifiable invasion of their privacy. They'd better have some pretty solid evidence that the individuals the phones were taken from are actually guilty of crimes, and not just going on a fishing expedition to see if they can be linked to something based on what's inside the phone. Or, put another way, how would YOU like it if a cop came up, took your phone away from you, and said "Yeah, we're going to break into this to see if you're a bad guy." And before you think, "I have nothing to hide," you should strongly consider that suspicion without justification is one little tiny step away from manufacturing a justification so that you'll be a suspect. It CAN happen to you, and don't think it can't.

      Only an idiot would think this is anything but the same kind of crap that we had back with COINTELPRO in the1950s, only reloaded and with thunderous applause from a people who doesn't recognize the chains that they'll eventually be shackled with, too.

  17. In other "protest" news... by Tailhook · · Score: 0

    The "March for Science" is floundering as various grievance groups push their diversity agendas into the fore. The event's "official diversity policy" is now on its forth revision amid the resignations of organization committee members.

    Some are concerned the event will — much like the vaunted Women's March — have conspicuously white optics. Others are concerned the March for Science is losing focus as sundry aggrieved interests try to attach themselves to the imprimatur of "science." In all likelihood they're both right.

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    Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
    1. Re:In other "protest" news... by gtall · · Score: 1

      Nah, I don't think the Republicans will show up, they don't believe in Science.

      G-d visits Mitch McConnell in the Garden of Eden

      G-d: Mitch, how come my apple is still on the Tree of Knowledge?
      Mitch: No Republican wants to be like Einstein, we heard he’s not like us.
      G-d: What? Jewish?
      Mitch: No, a scientist.

  18. No Crime by jediborg · · Score: 0

    I don't know what 'violently protesting' means, but if they didn't assault another person, if they didn't cause property damage to an individual, then there is no crime.

    From what i remember, the only 'violence' at trumps inauguration was a single limousine being set ablaze. Whoever did that should of course be found and jailed for arson. But I sincerely doubt this crime is what the prosecutor is going after.

    1. Re:No Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what 'violently protesting' means, but if they didn't assault another person, if they didn't cause property damage to an individual, then there is no crime.

      From what i remember, the only 'violence' at trumps inauguration was a single limousine being set ablaze. Whoever did that should of course be found and jailed for arson. But I sincerely doubt this crime is what the prosecutor is going after.

      Well to be fair, there is a pretty fine line between "assaulting a police officer, and resisting arrest" and "not getting out of the way of the jackboots fast enough". I suspect something on that spectrum is what they mean here.

    2. Re:No Crime by Tailhook · · Score: 1

      I don't know what 'violently protesting' means

      I don't either. The thing is our mutual ignorance of the meaning of that bit of media speak isn't terribly relevant. The rioters have actually been charged with crimes; Felony Rioting, specifically. Here is the actual statute: https://beta.code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/code/sections/22-1322.html.

      And perhaps the most relevant part of that is:

      If in the course and as a result of a riot a person suffers serious bodily harm or there is property damage in excess of $5,000, every person who willfully incited or urged others to engage in the riot shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than the amount set forth in 22-3571.01, or both.

      So any riotous trustafarian that texted any of their follows in a manner than that appears to incite or urge is a felon. Just yelling or holding a sign can get you there; all the prosecutor needs is some evidence. That's where all the phones come in.

      Some folks got use to having their way with no push back under Obama. As these rioters and others (Dakota Access squatters, for instance) are learning, the worm has turned. The next Ferguson is going to be very different.

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      Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
    3. Re:No Crime by Bartles · · Score: 1

      I wonder why that is all you remember?

  19. Hunt them down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hunt them all down. Disappear them. Turn them into lab rats for mind control experiments / chemically induced character reformation or just anything that would normally be considered unethical. Black Bloc / socialists ARE Maoists, communists, fascists, mass-murderers-in-waiting. Where do you THINK histories real genocidal / politicidal mass-murderers are drawn from ? It's always Social Engineering Uptopians with a hunger for violence, jacked up on self righteousness, fueled by a Manichean view of reality, thinking in absolutes.

    Why should we wait until leftist-genocide repeats itself? We recognize it's footprints. We've seen what it did in the Soviet Union, in Communist China, in Cambodia in Nazi Germany. Collectivist Uptopians are a disease, are literally infected with a disease which will spread and, once again, kill hundreds of millions or perhaps billions this time.

    Stop it dead. Take the gloves off. Nothing is out of bounds.

    Do it.

    1. Re:Hunt them down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You scare me a little, and not in the cool way. In the "he doesn't even know how sad his life is" way.

      The funny part, your rant is so confusing and filled with gibberish that I can't even deduce which side you're on.

      And I'm in Mensa with a college degree in Computer Science. Seriously. What the fuck are you saying? Is that you, teenager in mom's basement?

    2. Re:Hunt them down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Turn them into lab rats for mind control experiments"

      How do you know that that hasnt already happened to them?

  20. Well of course they are! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You didn't really think they'd just stop at cracking the phones of terrerists / lone gunmen shooters and child pornographers, did you?

  21. Use a POTS-simulating phone at riots by davidwr · · Score: 1

    There are companies that make "plain" cell phones that do nothing but send and receive calls.

    They are mostly marketed to people who want "a land line in their pocket." One even advertises "it has dial tone!" (oooh, ahhh, shiney!).

    If the feds seize a phone like this, all they will get is the electronic serial number an, consequently, your phone number and whatever they can get with that information. They won't get anything else useful of the phone itself.

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
    1. Re: Use a POTS-simulating phone at riots by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      That's because what we call a phone these days is really a hand held computer that can also place and receive calls. You are comparing Apples and Oranges.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    2. Re: Use a POTS-simulating phone at riots by davidwr · · Score: 1

      My implied point was to only take what you absolutely need when you go to someplace where you might be searched, e.g. a demonstration, an airport, etc.

      You need a phone call to make outgoing calls.

      You may need an incoming number that you can leave with friends.

      If you need a camera, take a stand-alone camera with a blank memory card.

      If you need a smart phone, buy a burner phone. But most people don't want to spend $50 on a burner smart-phone for each rally they go to.

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      Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
  22. Trust cellebrite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cellebrite was hacked, their data and methods exposed. Why would anyone trust them again?

  23. conspiracy to commit assault and sabotage by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    From:

    Friday, January 20, 2017 The Metropolitan Police Department announced an arrest has been made in a Conspiracy to Commit an Assault offense that occurred in the 500 block of 14th Street, Northwest. After a thorough investigation, it was determined that several individuals made plans to disrupt inauguration activities in an unlawful way. On Thursday, January 19, 2017, pursuant to a DC Superior Court arrest warrant, 34-year-old Scott Ryan Charney of Northwest, DC, was arrested in the area of 14th and Newton Streets, Northwest, and charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Assault. This investigation is ongoing. There are other individuals involved in the conspiracy, and they are still outstanding.

    This was in connection with the extremist group DisruptJ20, who were caught on tape and exposed plotting to chain DC metro trains and disrupt Trump's inaugural party. Seems like there is a good chance that evidence of this conspiracy will be searched for on these confiscated phones.

    1. Re:conspiracy to commit assault and sabotage by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      At very least, it will bankrupt their parents. At best it will roll-up the puppet masters. You know the little shits will stampede to the snitch deals, just like Sharpton did back in the day.

      It doesn't take much to connect someone to a conspiracy.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  24. Missing operant term by s.petry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The people arrested didn't seem to be the deluge of selfie taking people. The recommendation should be to simply not be violent at a protest so that you are not arrested, which results in the confiscation of your phone (and generally a good chuck of cash, and perhaps anal virginity).

    I'm probably one of the most pro Free Speech people you will ever meet. Free Speech does not include any form of violence. See the Non Aggression Principle

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    1. Re:Missing operant term by rtb61 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Problem is you do not need to be violent to be arrested for violence. Typical procedure for corrupt officials when protests are near major donors. Undercover officers go into the protest, instigate violence, wander through the police barricade and then corrupt law enforcers wade into the peaceful protesters claiming violence, violence all right, those law enforcers brutally attacking peaceful protesters. How many thousands have been arrested for violent crimes, only for those charges to be dropped, after those innocent victims where brutalised and assaulted by out of control law enforcers.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    2. Re: Missing operant term by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

      Pffft

      One well placed undercover officer or paid nobody can turn a peaceful demonstration into a violent one in a hurry.

      Even IF you're following all the rules, if someone in charge decides they're tired of your cute little protest, they'll put the undercover in play to " justify " the use of force to remove you.

    3. Re: Missing operant term by s.petry · · Score: 1

      People that have no ability to control their own actions should not leave a mental institution, let alone attend a protest.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  25. All I want to know is 1 thing (lol)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: Who got BITCHSLAPPED & BANNED from the whitehouse by our great President Trump? CNN (arstechnica), lmao...

    * Awwww... (not)!

    (The VERY FAKE news!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Biggest bunch of punks & underachiever "not men" I ever ran into online (especially Jeremy the WHIMP Reimer, Fatass PIG Jay Little & "GOITERMAN" Peter "not too" Bright)... apk

  26. George Soros on speed dial? by erp_consultant · · Score: 2

    Obviously an organized protest. Should be interesting.

    1. Re:George Soros on speed dial? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly. His number isn't on the phone. He wouldn't be caught dead with one of the useful idiots. It probably has the number to his prepaid legal people for his useful idiots. Another one for the press.

      Maybe in the "other" category, there is a number to the 72 virgins they'll get after the protest.

  27. Trump: I Will Get On My Knees If You Will Vote YES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    republicans wanted to impeach because he lied.

    republican don't give a shit that the donald lies every time he opens his mouth - republicans don't care that he loves, yes LOVES, putin - republicans lie to cover for trump and all this.

  28. Re:That's what happened ... [well...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts surrounding "the Holocaust" must be true, why else would half of Europe be locking people up for bringing the topic up for discussion?

    TRUTH fears no investigation.

  29. SJW alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Berkley riots, 0 arrests. The amount of people arrested for rioting in DC was tiny compared to the amount of people committing violent acts. The same can be said for virtually all of the leftist rioters, where politicians told law enforcement to stand down at all costs. Plenty of videos from all of those selfie grabbers prove my point and disprove your claim of corrupt law enforcers wading through crowds making false claims.

    You are being intellectually and factually dishonest. Will you next start claiming "hands up don't shoot" was real and chanting BLM chants? Trayvon Martin was just an 8 year old like the pictures they put on the news, and Zimmerman was a mean white guy? Fucktard...

    1. Re:SJW alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buurrrnn!

  30. Maybe not by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Load them up with tantalizing information that wastes a ton of investigation time

    Maybe not.
    Your time gets wasted a lot as well answering questions.
    As an (old) example Steve Jackson Games employees had a lot of trouble over the "GURPS Cyberpunk" game rules after a Secret Service raid despite it being extremely obvious fantasy/SF (1990, so the computer you are using today would have been wild SF let alone cyberpunk stuff).
    http://www.sjgames.com/SS/
    Your obvious fabrication, selectively quoted, could end up resulting in serious prison time for you if it looks like somebody can get a promotion for catching conspiritators.


    Thinking about it as if you are going to be dealing with an ideal justice system is probably a very bad idea. I'd say expect less comic book more Kafka (or similar eastern european writer describing a corrupt justice system).

    1. Re:Maybe not by swb · · Score: 1

      Well, if you start with the premise that you're engaging in an unsanctioned protest with violent elements you're already risking a lot of legal exposure. You can be charged in Federal court with felony riot, so if you want to avoid exposure to non-ideal justice then maybe the best advice is stay home and rant on social media.

      Obviously coordinating a disinformation campaign targeted at undermining and misleading Federal police agencies is dicey business to put it mildly. That being said, planting useless information on burner cell phones is a kind of passive resistance. You're not being *asked* for this information, it's being taken and they will be interpreting it under their own discretion.

    2. Re:Maybe not by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Playing head games with people who can beat you up without consequence if you frustrate them - not clever.
      Things are a bit different to the movies here kiddies. It's time to pay attention to policing lessons from the third world because those rights you thought you had vanish in dark places.

  31. 100 phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean there were at least 100 people there. With phones? You mean there are at least 100 Trump supporters who can walk, chew gum, and operate a phone?
    I admit I'm actually surprised.

  32. Allegedly violent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They had cameras everywhere, and they saw all of it happen, but all they can do is claim that these people allegedly might have been violent?

    I smell bullshit.

  33. Waste of Taxpayers Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a complete waste of money, waste of time. Are they gonna spend another 11 million or whatever dollars on hacking these iPhones?

  34. Re:That's what happened ... [well...] by Sique · · Score: 1
    The holocaust has been investigated, is currently investigated and will be investigated in the foreseeable future.

    But that's quite different than just crying "We've been lied too! It never happened!". If you have serious doubts, that's fine. State the doubts, state which specific claims you find doubtful, state, how to investigate the claims and which result would you convince that the claims are actually true. Everything else is just denial, as Henri Poincaré rightfully said: "To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection."

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    .sig: Sique *sigh*
  35. Re:That's what happened ... [well...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts surrounding "the Holocaust" must be true, why else would half of Europe be locking people up for bringing the topic up for discussion?

    TRUTH fears no investigation.

    Because "progressive" Europhiles always claim fascism is descending on the US.

    But it always seems to land in Europe.

  36. "Violent protestors" = "Rioters" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They are a bunch of welfare leeching Leftist scumbags who think that the way to prove they are right is by physically attacking anybody who disagrees with them, and that's exactly what is happening now on a weekly basis in the U.S., where anybody who goes to a pro Trump rally/public meeting is at risk of being physically assaulted by the new brownshirts. It proves they are wrong. Anybody who has to silence people who disagree with them is openly admitting that they know they are wrong, and can't even debate their own position. Anybody who uses the word "racist" is the same.

    1. Re:"Violent protestors" = "Rioters" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The group of rioters weren't "Leftist" in any sense of the word. They're anarchists, and they've been protested most presidential inaugurations since the 80s (including Barack Hussein Obama's, since your tiny, retarded little mind won't be able to figure out that was one of the inaugurations since the 80s).

      They're already planning what they're going to do at the next inauguration. It doesn't matter who wins. They'll be there. Even more certain is that your stupid little brain will ignore it if the candidate is a Dem, and you'll just bitch and moan even more if the candidate is GOP.

    2. Re:"Violent protestors" = "Rioters" by Straif · · Score: 1

      Anarchist fall on all points of the political left-right scale. The protestors in question were anarcho-communists (as indicated by their flag) and are in fact far left on the political spectrum.

      While a handful did show up to protest Obama (because they didn't consider him far left enough) it was a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers who showed up for the Trump protest.

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      Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
  37. 100 people? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    I doubt there were that many at Trump's inauguration.

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    Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
  38. Re: That's what happened ... [well...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The locking up claim is a hoax designed to create sympathy for holocaust deniers.

  39. Re:let me help you out by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

    You guys on the political left do not understand that every damned thing you just said about Trump is just as true of Obama from the perspectve of conservatives. Obama forged a political sword of hate and shoved it down our throats for eight years as he divided the nation by race, gender, etc all for his political gain. He heaped mountains of snark, arrogance, and sarcasm onto anybody who disagreed with him and labelled any opponent of his policies a racist. The man was the single most evil and bile-filled troll to ever operate in American politics.

    If this is truly the "perspective of conservatives", then from the perspective of this moderate Independent, you're all fucking insane, truly living in a fiction of your own creation. Let's examine:

    "mountains of snark, arrogance, and sarcasm"? Seriously?

    "labelled any opponent of his policies a racist" Fucking seriously? What fucking planet are you living on and where do they keep your meds?

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    This comment is my opinion and does not represent an official position of Donald Trump or others I do not work for
  40. Emergency Calling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need to unlock or even have a SIM card inserted at all to call emergency on a mobile/cell phone. As long as it it powered on and can pickup any network it should work.

    Even if there is no network it will keep trying.

    Educating everybody including kids about this is important.