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YouTube Loses Major Advertisers Over Offensive Videos (rollingstone.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Rolling Stone: Verizon, AT&T, Johnson & Johnson and other major companies have pulled advertisements from YouTube after learning they were paired with videos promoting extremism, terrorism and other offensive topics, The New York Times reports. Among the other companies involved are pharmaceutical giant GSK, HSBC, the Royal Bank of Scotland and L'Oreal, amounting to a potential loss of hundreds of millions of dollars to the Google-owned company. The boycott began last week after a Times of London investigation spurred many major European companies to pull their ads from YouTube. American companies swiftly followed, even after Google promised Tuesday to work harder to block ads on "hateful, offensive and derogatory" videos. Like AT&T, most companies are only pulling their ads from YouTube and will continue to place ads on Google's search platforms, which remain the biggest source of revenue for Google's parent company, Alphabet. Still, the tech giant offered up a slew of promises to assuage marketers and ensure them that they were fixing the problems on YouTube. Due to the massive number of videos on YouTube -- about 400 hours of video is posted each minute -- the site primarily uses an automated system to place ads. While there are some failsafes in place to keep advertisements from appearing alongside offensive content, Google's Chief Business Officer Philipp Schindler wrote in a blog post that the company would hire "significant numbers" of employees to review YouTube videos and mark them as inappropriate for ads. He also said Google's latest advancements in artificial intelligence and machine learning will help the company review and flag large swaths of videos.
They can either honor the ethos that brought all the eyes to the videos or they can die slowly trying to suck the cock of Wall Street while losing viewers to other video channels. That whole market forces thing is a bitch.
Such sissies.
i would not want to be associated either. guess thats the issue with a system like that.
i wonder though if people actually think that both or either advocate each other or if people understand how it works.
...Won't *someone* think of the *children*!!!
At least you got the one that's pretending to be one sarcastically!
When your entire revenue is dependent on quantity with minimal quality investment you lose control. When you lose control things go down hill fast (just see what MySpace and Geocities eventually became). And there is currently no AI that can discriminate between poetry, let alone what certain markets find offensive.
From the other end: Although I don't understand why a potential advertiser would not want to promote their product in front of any audience. These types of things are bound to happen when you depend on a single vendor serving an entire market spanning pretty much every human endeavor, you're bound to be servicing both the best and worst parts.
Ad companies and YouTube channels alike need to turn to smaller, controllable and direct revenue models. If you make a private deal with an ad company both sides get what they want. Now the revenue is just being distributed to primarily the worst portions of society and decent content which is a minority of the 400h/min streams only gets a stupidly small share.
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I'm so glad Johnson and Johnson is removing any doubt that they could be associated with such extremists! Now we can get back to associating them with knowingly giving woman and babies cancer and not giving two shits about it.
So let me get this straight -- racists, misogynists, and terrorists are going to benefit from an ad-free experience, and yet my 6 year old daughter has to put up with ads for mortgages and makeup and other adult stuff when she wants to watch kids videos? WTF did we ever do to you Google that dirtbags get an out from Youtube ads, but the rest of us have to suffer?
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Ask the content creators if they give a shit? Youtube last year around sep cut most ad rev to 1/8th-1/4th what it was before.
This force most of the stable channels to reach out to more interesting venues of content. They all became obsessed with ups and likes and total views. Some of the smaller dudes have basically had to beg for money on patreon to keep going. When nurdrage has to beg for cash something is wrong.
There was a time when I really enjoyed browsing youtube videos. And I didn't really mind a little advertisement break here and there.
But what killed youtube for me - was the now forced (unskippable) ads that often last well into 30 seconds or more, just for checking out a video. I like seeing if I want to watch this or not, now there's a forced ad on every second video I decide to check.
Now, before my dear Slashdotters say "well, you can use adblocker" etc, please keep in mind that a lot of us watch youtube on our "smart-tv" devices, Nintendos, Xbox's Youtube app etc.
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
These companies have been putting so much effort into detecting "hate speech," but the number of times that my wife has had to hit the home button on the Roku to stop a horror movie trailer or something equally inappropriate on content appropriate for preschoolers is truly appalling. But we're not triggered, we just deal with it so we don't count.
Wow, look at HSBC withe their moral superiority. The same bank that launders money for drug lords and the Russian mafia.
Because if "offensive" is defined as "anyone who supports Donald Trump or refuses to accept the new SJW definition of 'equality'" then I have a bit of a problem with that.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Have gnu, will travel.
if you're logged in to google account and running an adblocker while watching Youtube videos; they will eventually mysteriously error out.
But, if you're not logged in and run one, they play fine all day and ad free.
We are under a constant assault by a Snowflake jihad whose understanding of freedom of speech is limited to what they agree with. In America this is probably the darkest time in over 200 years with regards to the Bill of Rights. We are living in an age of the self-righteous perpetually offended punk, a punk without a hint of self-understanding or irony.
Islamic terrorism is OK with these companies, otherwise they would have pulled long ago. Can't offend the religion of peace.
Channels like FeministFrequency are really offensive, sexist, and bigoted. But YouTube tries to live up to free speech ideals, so they try to tolerate people like Anita as much as humanly possible.
Lovely Google ad yesterday for hot women who are "guaranteed to contact you first". Was something vaguely adverstising as a "bride" site. I guess female prostitution is ok. Should women leave Slashdot?
You were going to say that no matter whether it was relevant of not (which it isn't)
It's absolutely relevant if it's true. Youtube is being very cagey about exactly what videos it means here. The meaning of words like "derogatory" vary SIGNIFICANTLY depending on who you're asking.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
First YouTube (Google/Alphabet) arbitrarily demonitizing videos posted on their site...
Now advertisers arbitrarily demonitize YouTube itself.
Given Europe's attitude towards hate speech and how they enforce "right to be forgotten", I'm surprised that they haven't already erected a GFW at this point
...said the main living in the glorious country where the simple apparition of a nipple is considered a major mediatic catastrophe, where breast feeding is a public offense, and where anything remotely sexual is sure to traumatise the next few generations of youth. (and where nude bodies are probably terrorism-level material).
To each country and culture its own taboos.
For Germany, it might be hate speech, for France it might be "right to be forgotten", and for the USA it's anything which isn't missionary position with the sole purpose to procreate.
Beware of the nude-nipple-terrorists, America !
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It's only half the story. The other half is that legitimate news reporting and videos that are "merely political" are having ALL ads removed, not just ads from the companies that are complaining.
Several legitimate video bloggers and independent reporters are reporting that their videos are being "de-monetized", effectively shutting down any sort of non-mainstream reporting.
So basically youtube is now into the political suppression business, pulling ads for videos that otherwise meet all of their guidelines except for not meeting political opinions of some advertisers.
You can't tack "if true" on the end of baseless speculation and think that means something.
Like: "I've head you're a massive pedophile, YUGE IF TRUE!".
What is "offensive" is defined by the companies who are paying Google to place their ads.
Who do you think should be defining it?
More truthful to say
"Competing broadcaster defames YouTube"
The OP is just parroting the narrative of the AT&T PR department, but we forget that AT&T competes with YouTube for ad dollars now that it owns Time Warner.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/business/dealbook/att-agrees-to-buy-time-warner-for-more-than-80-billion.html
This Anti-YouTube FUD is just Old Media pulling Madison Avenue favors to put together a broadcaster cabal to push down the value YouTube CPMs compared to their "premium cable TV" ad packages. We're all just eyeballs to them.
someone who denies the obvious sounds like a paid globalist troll, the function key bit is a nice touch since that's probably how you started your career before moving on more sophisticated tools
Getting mad at Google when you've decided to use their automated tools to place your ads is kinda stupid. Place your ads intentionally instead of automatically and you won't have this problem.
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I just researched the Starbucks thing, Ave it turns out they are talking about refugees, not illegal aliens, so it's safe for you and your friend to go back to paying way too much for your not very good coffee again.
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I'm probably flagged as a conspiracy theorist by google (ff/ddg incognito always). I have a whole section of google news of anti-trump stories and have been bombarded by them since 4 months before the election (they started over night). I've never clicked on a google news story (I simply don't care if it doesn't affect me and there's nothing I can do) other than the rare space related and only skim headlines. I get most of my news from wikipedia.
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If you're going to be a conspiratard, just come out with it and say "Jew." Everyone knows that's what your little dog whistle means.
Why are you objecting to ISIS videos in terms of Trump?
Because the language Google is using sounds like this includes WAY more than just ISIS videos. Words like "derogatory" take on a whole new meaning in Silicon Valley on on college campuses today than they do in red state America. So it's very important to establish EXACTLY whose definitions we're using here and exactly what videos are going to be blacklisted.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Trump (really Bannon, Trump's just the mouth piece) managed to make racism OK again. I'll Let that one sink in...
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Words like "derogatory" take on a whole new meaning in Silicon Valley on on college campuses today than they do in red state America.
Why not set up your own video streaming site that caters to red state America? You could call it "RedTube."
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I'm not really sure why.
Youtube are a company. Their sponsors are free market entities who are free to spend their advertising dollars as the see fit.
Are you suggesting that you'd alter their right to do that based on your perception of their political alignment, or the alignment of the youtuber...?
You could just report it. Google sells massive numbers of ads in a block. They don't review each and every one. It's not possible. They're not publishing a once a month magazine with 100 pages tops ya know...
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What is "offensive" is defined by the companies who are paying Google to place their ads.
It's defined by the "progressives" that whine the loudest when somebody speaks out against one of their pet causes. The social justice warriors of today are the same breed as the religious right from 20-30 years ago. If these companies had any business sense or corporate responsibility, they would just ignore them instead of trying to appease them.
Words like "derogatory" take on a whole new meaning in Silicon Valley on on college campuses today than they do in red state America.
Why not set up your own video streaming site that caters to red state America? You could call it "RedTube."
In case you were not aware, there is already a NSFW video site called "redtube.com" I wouldn't recommend going there if you are easily offended.
(ff/ddg incognito always)
OK, I'm sure anyone who has been here as long as I have is familiar with "two girls, one cup" and "goatse.cx", but I am curious about your "two girls, two dogs and a goat on hidden camera" video.
I'd rather phase-out "hate-speech" than your insultingly stupid adverts.
And by all means : feel free to be more easily offended.
You can't really accuse YouTube of accepting the "SJW definition" of anything, because they have started restricting access to trans make-up advice videos and anything with the world "gay" in the title. They are getting a beating on Twitter for it but don't seem to be relenting.
If anything, it seems like they have taken the alt-right definition of "offensive".
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Oh grow up.
Because if "offensive" is defined as...
If you're ignorant then you've been trying to be and you're exceptionally foolish jumping right into the converstation, putting forth your deeply held opinions without the slightest connection to the story.
If you're not ignorant then you know EXACTLY what is going on, you are just trying to stir up shit about people you hate (and by the way you're a fuckwit), namely SJWs
You very well know that big money spending advertisers have pulled advertising because their ads have been displayed next to and contributed money to material that the advertisers really don't want to be associated with or fund. Really not fund.
Like the British government not wanting to fund precisely the sort of terrorists who actually try (and occasionally succeed ) to attack.
And you response is basicaly "wah wah SJW".
Fucking moron.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
What if the truth is offensive to advertisers. Banned?
YouTube famously too down legitimate gun channels due to complaints. The result is that most of the gun vloggers moved over to full30.com. Star censoring other groups, and watch the content people want fragment and leave YouTube. It wouldn't take much imagination to see the #MGTOW guys start their own site.
Throughout the article, it doesn't say exactly what the hate speech was in these videos. Was it the usual 'not quite politically correct' video where people speak or write about something that not everyone agrees with? Nowadays these offend quite a few of the big brand companies. Or was this a seriously sick video (where they are shooting puppies and kittens, for example). If that was the case, I get it. But how many of those are there?
It's hard to take their concerns seriously. As someone else wrote, they agreed their ads would be put in using Google tools. With over 400 hours of video added a minute, they cannot be reviewed the moment they come in.
They don't support extremism. If you suggest extremism might be a thing in their presence, they will swiftly bar you from any and all contact with them, and call all their friends to ensure your cash flows stop and you die a slow death.
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Do people actually associate advertisements with the videos that they play with? I mean, the content creators have no say in what advertisement plays, so there really shouldn't be any association between the ad and the video, but rather, with the ad and YouTube.
I don't have an issue with Youtube showing ads for revenue but they do a piss-poor job of targeting ads to content. Mostly I watch classical music on youtube and get ads for something accompanied with awful jarring music. It annoys me an I does a disservice to the advertiser... clearly the ad would be better displayed elsewhere.
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I think that has something to do with browser publishers deprecating the Fullscreen API on cleartext HTTP sites to make it harder for a man in the middle to impersonate your device's operating system. (Search keyword "secure contexts".). Do the pages an where embedded YouTube video falls to go full screen use HTTPS or cleartext HTTP?
They are getting a beating on Twitter for it but don't seem to be relenting.
Nor should they. All the trans make-up artists and people who like putting 'gay' in their video titles can go make their own Youtube.
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Fuck off. You know why you think SJWs are everywhere? Because you nut cases stalk those people all over the Internet and share their shit with each other in your echo chambers and create subreddits just for that purpose. If you haven't noticed, people fitting this SJW label hardly ever appear in the comments sections or on discussion sites. Why may that be? Maybe because they represent such a tiny portion of the population unlike the far right who are talking about them all the goddamn time. The vast majority of people fitting the worst definition of SJW are college aged and it's not exactly new that a segment of people in that age group go through an activist subculture phase. It's a different story if they're well into their 20s, 30s, or older, but the number of people like that in those age groups is even smaller. Just get a fucking life and stop being creeps looking for material to justify your irrational hatred of other people.
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Booo hoo poor alt-right neckbeard manbaby gets mad when people don't like his bigoted, racist, misogynist crap.
Buddy the world is telling you that you're a degenerate piece of shit and they don't want to hear your flap your dick holster wherever you find an unfiltered input to abuse.
At this point you're being asked politely. We all suggest you don't press the issue if you don't like being embarrassed or punished.
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More like rapefugees.
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Example: Is this offensive?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
When did that happen? I have never seen an ad on that site.
Of course, I am not an idiot so I use ad blockers