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US Congress Votes To Shred ISP Privacy Rules (theregister.co.uk)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register: The U.S. House of Representatives has just approved a "congressional disapproval" vote of privacy rules, which gives your ISP the right to sell your internet history to the highest bidder. The measure passed by 232 votes to 184 along party lines, with one Democrat voting in favor and 14 not voting. This follows the same vote in the Senate last week. Just prior to the vote, a White House spokesman said the president supported the bill, meaning that the decision will soon become law. This approval means that whoever you pay to provide you with internet access -- Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner Cable, etc -- will be able to sell everything they know about your use of the internet to third parties without requiring your approval and without even informing you. That information can be used to build a very detailed picture of who you are: what your political and sexual leanings are; whether you have kids; when you are at home; whether you have any medical conditions; and so on -- a thousand different data points that, if they have sufficient value to companies willing to pay for them, will soon be traded without your knowledge. With over 100 million households online in the United States, that means Congress has just given Big Cable an annual payday of between $35 billion and $70 billion.
Is there anything they won't rape for money?
...and is the interests of nobody but a few of the obscenely wealthy. The Republican party no longer even pretends to give a shit about the poor and middle class, and yet we keep giving them power. It has to end.
Or is there a date at which point than can begin collecting your soul (I mean data) and selling it?
Turn your internet access line into an encrypted tunnel. Use TOR.
So much winning
I'm tired of winning
Browse with tor, or run a tor exit node, Either one will obfuscate your online patterns and make your data so noisy as to be useless.
Potential downside: nightly visits from the FBI asking about your more interesting browsing habits....
This idea that all senators and reps are terrible - except mine has got to go. We are all continually being bent over. Vote all of them out.
Silence is a state of mime.
With the records ISPs will be building on people, any kind of profiling will become easy. Have had an impure thought? Your ISP will know!
IMO, that must the the actual reason behind this anti-citizen action.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Nothing new here... ISPs used to be able to do this, until an Obama-era regulation blocked it in October, 2016. This just returns us to the prior status. See here
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If your records are for sale to anybody, no warrants will be required for any government agency to purchase them.
For all their empty talk of "freedom", the Republican party sure seems to love authoritarian rule.
...how many more Mbps can I get? Hey, Comcast, are you listening? The quicker I surf, the more info you get, so how about ramping up those speeds.
It is by my will alone my thoughts acquire motion; it is by the juice of the coffee bean that the thoughts acquire speed
The rule's only been around since October, so things have reverted to the same rule in effect for eight years under Obama. I agree this is a bad thing, but a lot of selectively outraged partisans are exposing themselves right now.
Only Republicans would rape the Internet. And they got a orangutan in office to rubber stamp it.
You know if you purchased the internet history of the politicians and then showed it to them (or everyone), they might see this issue differently.
Thank You, Sir. May I have Another?
Teh internets watch you.
... the government can now buy your information and isn't breaking any laws to do so.
is now basically a requirement in America.
You will be better off in the end. Protect yourself from your ISP and get the added bonus of protection from the RIAA/MPAA etc as well. Like a two for one deal.
Now ISPs can be regulated just like cable or phone companies because they are no longer pass-through entities. Remember, ISPs keep saying they shouldn't be regulated like those others, but now, since they are controlling what you can and can't access (through deals they cut with Netflix and such), they are no different than cable companies.
Now that they're collecting data, similar to what cable companies do when they know what you watch, ISPs can now be classified as common carriers.
Even better, since these folks will now know where you go, they can be held responsible for not reporting child pornography and other criminal acts. Nor can they claim ignorance. After all, they're no longer a pass-through entity. They're watching you.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
There's very little for Republicans left to rape since Democrats pretty much took all your rights to begin with.
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One question I've yet to see answered in any reports on H.J.Res. 86 is whether it would allow ISP's to dig back into past search histories and sell that information to advertisers or marketing firms. Or, would it only be data collected after passage of the bill?
I can see the ads now "The Republicans said it is OK to do what every website including Facebook already does today!!"
My, my, how vile is that!
Oh wait, absolutely no-one cares. It would be a bugger waste of money than a Hillary campaign ad.
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Keep watching and yelling about Russian connections, wiretaps, and ACA grand standing by both sides.
Pay no attention to what's really happening.
Who follows the rules now? How many of you actually have read the TOS for your ISP? It's privacy policy?
Unless you know what's going on to start with and have taken extreme measures to avoid it, you are already being tracked every which way from Sunday. So your ISP now can packet sniff your traffic? Big woop...
If you care to keep your ISP in the dark, best you arrange to have a VPN connection 100% of the time for all your traffic. But I would expect that you are constantly ditching your browser cookies, never log in to anything, don't use E-mail or any protocol that is unencrypted now...
The ONLY compliant anybody has here is that your ISP keeping these records might make it easier for law enforcement to get this information. Even so, that will take a warrant, unless you ISP just gives up any information they have to law enforcement when they ask, even if they don't say please...
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Is there a more objective analysis of this legislation, the reasoning behind it, and what its ramifications may be?
Regardless of what you think about the current administration, Slashdot appears to have it out for them. So I can't bring myself to trust the summary.
The Register is generally seen as a fringe source of information, as well. The sensationalized headline and the tagline that tells me "here's what you should do about it" don't appear unbiased. So I can't trust what has been written in the article.
I'd prefer not to get my information about this matter from such questionable sources.
Hey ISP I want all your customer records for anyone who accessed XX between 7:00 and 10:00 on Tuesday. And yes, I have warrants. I have warrants in denominations of $50 and $100.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
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Posting anonymously because I will be attacked and modded as a troll, but i *fully* support this, and I will not be apologetic about it. Yes, I also voted for Trump, and I see a lot of the opposition to this as a knee jerk trump derangement syndrome from the left. Everything his administration does is being attacked and undermined by the radical left and the mainstream media (which slashdot is a part of) has done nothing but attack attack attack.
It is time for our country to return to its roots as a capitalist, individualist paradise. This de-regulation (which is what it is) will help make this happen, in its own small way.
Hence they keep winning. Convince enough of the poor and middle class to trust only your media, only the words coming from the mouths of people in your party, and they will keep voting for them. They will just blame the currently powerless Democrats, shift blame to Hillary somehow, or blame Obama.
Hey moron, ISPs have been able to sell your anonymized data since forever. How have you been hurt by this?
Oh, and those rules never went into effect. Doh!
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From what I understand the privacy rules set forth by the FCC under president Obama haven't gone into effect yet. So I'm not sure what's changed from what we have today. Granted, it's a crap thing to do, but ISP's have had the ability to do this for as long as they've existed as far as I know.
Hasn't Google and Facebook been monetizing their users in a similar way? And would have been able to continue to do so even if the privacy rules were left in place? If my ISP is going to make money off of me, I should at least get a discount on my monthly bill though. That's the biggest difference I can see. I actually pay my ISP, where I use Google for free.
In reality, Republicans have repealed rules that don't yet exist. The so-called privacy rules were scheduled to go into effect at the end of this year. So, nothing is actually changing. ISPs will be able to continue doing what they are doing right now.
Next up: The Patriotic and Antiterrorist Transparency Act, which mandates that all houses be built with glass instead of siding and drywall.
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From the headline of an article that came up in a Google Search, which I will not link to nor did I click:
"House Votes Tuesday to Restore Consistent Online Privacy Regulation"
Fuck tolerance, those people just need to be driven off the goddamn internet. It's too good for them to ruin.
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Yes, Republicans will allow individuals to sign contracts that allow ISP's to rape their privacy - believing that people should pretty much be able to do what they want as long as they are willing to pay the consequences.
Democrats on the hand, want everyone except for the rich to be able to avoid all negative consequences -- afterall they can always find someone other than themselves to blame, and democrats are sure happy to rape anyone except the poor or illegals for anything that makes them feel good. They even get a thrill out of making nuns pay for medical insurance that covers abortions.
They both suck, but I know which one is worse.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?426100-102/us-house-meets-legislative-business&live&vod&start=2927
Mike Doyle kills it at 2:02:00 in
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I know its asking a lot for Slashdot to react to anything but the headlines but this story keeps surfacing and has repeatedly been shown to have been spun to be misleading. Congress simply reversed midnight regs that were never in effect, the issue being one Federal Agency was engaged in a power grab over another and regulations should be passed after careful consideration and through the proper channels. Not on the sly on the eve of a new Presidency. This has absolutely nothing to do with Republicans cackling in a dark room over shredding privacy rights.
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serious question here:
how does this compare with other countries?
Did they write in any exemptions for themselves? I'm sure if we just release every congress-critter's search history, they'll have a change of heart.
How about a script that fetches a random URL once per second?
Putting junk into the data makes it hard to get anything useful out of it. That plus some use of VPNs.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Your ISP could already do this, they have been able to do so for years. The bill slapped down was one that required subscriber consent to sell the data, despite no ISP actually selling subscriber data commercially. The ISPs that refuse to do so and stipulate this position in their contracts are the ones you want right? Even if it's sold at a slight premium?
who purchased this device with cash and didn't sign any TOS & am using open Wifi that does not have TOS 'agreement screens' like your neighbors house or corner coffee shop. Can they now legally collect info on me, a minor, and sell it to the public? What if I'm coverend by a court case where publishing my personal or identifying info is prohibited by law because I'm a minor?
Guess it's time to get off the couch and find a good VPN. Don't forget to help your friends and neighbors.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
How is this not trolltrace? because they don't make the data public? only a matter of time friends..
Yes, Facebook already sees your other Webtraffic, because it has the ad networks bugged to track you. Google does. All of them do.
What's this, an actual nerd on Slsshdot instead of a huffy ignorant newb?
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One of the main comments I keep seeing in the discussion related to this issue (aside from arguments over which political party to blame) is that the obvious solution to this problem is to use a VPN (and why haven't you been using one in the first place). But is there any reason why a VPN provider would be obligated to enforce a privacy regulation that an ISP is not? Or, said another way: What is to stop your VPN provider from selling your data to a third-party like an ISP? If this is some basic facet of VPNs then I apologize for asking a basic question, but the only experience I've had with VPNs are university and corporate based, so this kind of question never really came up.
Let's suppose that information collected this way is available for sale by the time of the 2020 presidential elections.
Are we really supposed to believe that the Democratic Party won't buy it and use it, to try to better understand the electorate they need to win over?
I can't believe that any political party seeking power wouldn't try to acquire and use information collected this way, even if this party previously claimed to be against such data collection.
Why don't we have the US government pay for a monthly VPN capability to provide "universal" anonymity?
Only Republicans would rape the Internet. And they got a orangutan in office to rubber stamp it.
Yes the Republicans have been pushing for this since SOPA, and it was protested about and struck down so they tried renaming it CISPA and that got struck down and now they are pulling this crap. It is not so much about the president but the fact we have Republicans in the house and senate who think they have a blank check to do whatever they want.. I expect they are going to try to make abortion illegal and pull all planned parenthood funding, I imagine they are going to pull all support for climate change research and put as much money into coal and oil drilling and digging and I know for a fact they are going to try to get us embroiled in more wars so that if there is a Democratic resurgence they will be dealing with the fall out from that war so hard that they will not be able to accomplish anything in the 4 or 8 years they have, thereby leaving an open for another republican to get in on the idea that the Democrat guy got nothing done. Same old Republican crap , different day! I have said it before, This is what you get when you vote Republicans into office. Get used to it kids! I learned this a long long time ago.
Wow, I'd reject this too. Maybe some people should read the F'ing pig before they go off. I mean it's only 73 pages (of small print) that covers everything a good terrorist would want to CYA with.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/12/02/2016-28006/protecting-the-privacy-of-customers-of-broadband-and-other-telecommunications-services
We're gonna make a lot of money, right?
If you -ever- plan on running for office, I suggest you avoid the internet completely.
The next candidate to replace Trump is going to have their search and web history under the spotlight for everyone to see. Go ahead and tell me it won't be weaponized to " dissuade " certain folks from running for office.
Those skeletons in the closet ? hhahahahaha
Not anymore :D
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The good news is that a careless CPA may email a copy of Trump's tax returns to a colleague and an ISP along the way will suck them out of the stream and sell them to the National Enquirer without fear of legal repercussions.
(Not really because, if nothing else, there are strict Federal laws that protect tax returns specifically -- but it's fun to think about how this could backfire.)
Why is there an "insightful" mod and why isn't it "-1"? If I wanted insight, I wouldn't be reading
From https://www.congress.gov/congr...:
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. President, I rise in support of my resolution of
disapproval under the Congressional Review Act of the FCC's broadband
privacy restrictions. As chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's
Privacy Subcommittee, I have spent more than a year closely examining
this issue.
In February of 2015 the FCC, under then-Chairman Tom Wheeler, took
the unprecedented step of reclassifying broadband providers as ``common
carriers'' under title II of the Communications Act. In other words, on
a 3-to-2 party-line vote, the FCC decided that internet service
providers should be treated like telephone companies for regulatory
purposes. The decision encroached on the Federal Trade Commission's
jurisdiction to regulate ISP privacy policies, stripping these
companies of their traditional privacy regulator.
[...]
These regulations have altered the basic nature of privacy protection
in the United States. For decades, the FTC policed privacy based on
consumer expectations for their data, not bureaucratic preferences.
These consumer expectations were just common sense: Sensitive data
deserves more protection than nonsensitive data.
Unfortunately, the FCC rules dispensed with this commonsense
regulatory approach. Under the new rules, what matters isn't what the
data is but, rather, who uses it.
[...]
So the new "rules" the FCC put forward made the privacy worse than it already was! This is a *good* thing.
If you think your side of the political coin is any cleaner, you're still part of the system. Trump's not perfect, but at least he rejected both parties. You need to learn to appreciate that, and stop getting herded around like sheep.
Let's not overreact, it's not a big deal, I mean how much information could this actually reveal? http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08...
If ISPs are common carriers, then they have no right to restrict traffic based on endpoint (Netflix). AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, etc. want the best of both worlds. They want to be common carriers only when is suits their purposes.
Finally! Something for the coal miners! And is little folk!
Go Donald!
Why do you think they call them red states?
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
And all you fucktards think Microsoft collecting data is the worst thing on the planet. HA.. Republicans are, now the ISP's can see you out to the FSB and do it legally while giving der Gropenfurer a kick back.
You dicks voted for him - now just STFU you got what you wanted.
Found the fucking idiot.
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All it will take is some data getting hacked and subsequently released. The resulting muders and divorces will lead to law suits that will hopefully shut this down.
Trump's not perfect, but at least he rejected both parties.
You don't actually believe that, right?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
That's an insult to orangutans. They are gentle peaceful and intelligent creatures.
This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal.
And besides, I think "shit-gibbon" is the preferred nomenclature these days.
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I believe this *has* already been happening whether is been strictly *legal* or not. Though it is bothersome that it would be codified in law.
Your privacy is sold out, and all the money goes to the 1%. This is Trump's America.
Do people understand that this also gives the government the ability to know all about you? They just have to buy the data from the ISPs?
It pisses me off that they almost never publish the number of the bill or how our representatives voted. The House Bill was #230. The Senate bill voted on last week was #34. Here are the votes:
House Bill 230
Democrats Not Voting: David Scott (GA), Bobby Rush (IL), David Price (NC), Louise Slaughter (NY)
Democrats Voting Yea: None
Democrats Voting Nay: All Others
Republicans Not Voting: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL), Thomas Rooney (FL), Michael “Mike” Simpson (ID), Robert Pittenger (NC), Tom Marino (PA)
Republicans Voting Nay: None
Republicans Voting Yea: All Others
Senate Bill S.J. Res. 34
Democrats Not Voting: None
Democrats Voting Yea: None
Democrats Voting Nay: All others
Republicans Not Voting: Isakson (GA), Paul (KY)
Republicans Voting Nay: All others
Independents Not Voting: None
Independents Voting Yea: None
Independents Voting Nay: King (ME), Sanders (VT)
I do not block ads. I do block third party scripts.
Trump's not perfect, but at least he rejected both parties.
You don't actually believe that, right?
I am afraid they do...
Yeah, they kinda do. They own the House, Senate & Presidency. They mostly own the Supreme Court and will after Gourch gets appointed (Dems don't have the votes to stop it and the Repubs can change the filibuster rules with their votes).
Face it, we handed them a blank check when we elected Trump. They don't always have the balls to cash it (their first round of billionaire tax cuts in the guise of Health Care failed) but they've got it. In two years time we've got a chance to revoke that check in the mid-terms. But I'm guessing the Dems will make us feel bad (nobody likes paying taxes) and you'll let it roll...
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I blame all the FreeMarket Trump Nuts on Slashdot. See this isn't a freemarket because there is no competition in the ISP marketplace. If I really had min >10 competing ISPs, I bet you I could find one that would respect my privacy. Yay Free Market. But this isn't a free market. It is a monopoly that needs to be destroyed.
This will only last until some "family values" repub gets caught searching for child porn. We can buy their browser history now.
Soylent Green is...your online history!
You are welcome on my lawn.
If it were really that bad the president would veto. This is probably a good thing.
If you think your side of the political coin is any cleaner, you're still part of the system.
This is what people say when the candidate they voted for turns out to be a fuckwit after all.
People who say "sheeple" have about as much sophistication as an AOL user, and in fact are probably actually AOL users.
...
Judge: Evidence?
Prosecutor: Browsing history
Judge: Warrant?
Prosecutor: Credit card
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Yup. Easily circumvents probably a slew of laws by doing it this way.
Is this the point, where EVERYONE jumps on the TOR bandwagon to saturate the pool? Is even TOR even useful anymore?
Even if you find a VPN provider who is contractually obligated to not sell your browsing history, they're still a target by agencies and NSL's, and clandestine groups to infiltrate.
It's a crap-shoot all around.
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Good thing the swamp is drained and big money is out of government. Yeah feeling like everything is great again.
The digital harvest is just about complete. I swear I really am thinking of just unplugging from the digital world. The only way to stop this is by not participating.
Everyone seems to be reacting as if ISPs are suddenly going to start selling all your personal info in a major blow to Internet privacy, but these FCC rules just went into effect at the beginning of January, and were enacted because ISPs were doing it already. So we're really just back to the status quo.
He did not reject both parties. Both parties along with MSM rejected him. What he did do was cause all the mega donors to lose all the money they invested in their preferred candidate. Trump has also exposed a very dangerous concept. You can disapprove and hate a candidate or the person who is actually elected but do need to respect the office of the President and also respect the system. But it is clear that both the citizens and the politicians from all sides have abandoned this concept. When Clinton lost the losers started attacking the Electoral College as something that needs to be eliminated but if they had won the election they would be falling all over themselves support the Electoral College and ridicule anyone suggesting the Electoral College be changed or eliminated. That type of duplicity and situation policy making will do more harm to the US even if Trump held office for the next 20 years. As it sits now their is nobody in Washington doing their proper job which is to manage US public policy. All these honor less jackass's are doing is holding political motivated investigations and hearings.
I am just happy that none of the hot topic governmental decisions or actions do not effect me. I am a 35 year old white male, heterosexual, college educated, widower, with a high paying job that comes with generous health care and investment benefits. My lot in life would be exactly the same if Clinton had won the election. About the only thing that worries me is how the major news outlets are publishing along party lines instead of just providing factual information. They can have opinion pieces but they don't belong on the front page. Ever news outlet in the US has morphed into the National Enquire. Loud and bold Headlines are never supported in the actual article but these bold headlines do attract a lot of clicks.
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So many pathetic commenters. You deserve what's happening.
Instead of complaining, let's do something. What are the best and cheapest VPNs out there? Do something useful instead of complaining.
You can throw up speedbumps to what they can see, and limit the sharing quite a bit.
Do you?
I know how to do that - but I do not.
Do you think even 1% of non technical people do anything like that?
For 99.9% of ISP users it doesn't matter if technically they COULD POSSIBLY limit tracking of someone like Facebook or Google to be more limited than your ISP - in practice there is no difference.
Because they tried price discrimination once, and it blew up on them badly.
Ha Ha they offer dynamic pricing all the time, even now. Some "blow up".
I see this all-or-nothing bullshit all the time.
Now THAT is some grade A dripping wet irony.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Even better, they'll get a bulk discount.
The rules Obama put into place to take effect AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE (not during his 8 years in power) were a joke, a typical partisan political hand grenade.
Those rules did NOTHING about Democrat-aligned multinational megabusinesses like Apple and Google. They did NOTHING to protect the privacy of internet users and were really just a hassle for internet related businesses that were not as in-bed with the Democrats.
Just how much of your personal info was your ISP selling to any and all bidders during Obama's years in the White House when Obama's new rules did not apply to them? Now just how much of your info were Apple, Google, Facebook, etc getting rich selling to the highest bidders during those same years and even now and how much more were they going to do had these rules (which did not apply to them) stayed in effect?
Obamabots have got to be the most gullible, unthinking, talkinbgpoint spouting idiots in the entire political spectrum (sigh)
A VPN will shut out your ISP.
The funny thing about that point is that it is even easier to block what your ISP can see (via VPN) than it is someone like Facebook or Google, which will happily discern who you are whatever IP you come through or from.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
How does Facebook and Google see that I binge-play Elder Scrolls Online an entire night?
Because they see your "signal" go dark for the night and you talk about it on some service later that Google can see (i.e. they know now). Or maybe the company that runs Elder Scrolls just told them since there is nothing stoping THEM from selling your info.
Meanwhile if you had played over a VPN your ISP would know nothing. They are literally the only service it's actually possible to keep in the dark, yet you want to make a fuss about what they can see.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I happened to be at the National Zoo in DC this weekend. Please be nicer to orangutans and don't compare them to the current Oval Office occupant. They are intelligent, interesting, and they seem to have a sense of humor.
You can choose to use or not use Facebook.
Wrong.
You can choose not to use the Facebook UI or to register with them. But you have no easy way for them not to know who you are as an entity, and what you do. You know how there is a Facebook "Like" button on every page? Yeah.
That is doubly true of Google... or anyone that runs a large ad network.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I have used BREITBART.COM to find a sex partner
Yeah I choose that one, at least I would have someone who would put out unlike you impotent sexless Trump Haters.
Anyone standing on their ideological platforms on either side are idiots.
Democrats, Republicans heck they both are just opposite sides of the same rotten to the core coin.
If you are online today, everything you do is being monitored, read, used for marketing and backed up so it will come back on you years from now.
The only things you have which are secure are the thoughts in your mind. And that is only true until you start talking or typing.
Government will always be invasive, that is what government is all about. And it does not matter who is in charge.
looks like south park wasn't too far off.
How detailed will the ISP's logging of web history be?
Suppose an ISP gathers and stores everyone's web history, and that anyone with money will be able to purchase the web history from the ISP's, and then would be able to correlate the posting time of a comment with a search of the ISP's web logs to personally identify who made that post.
A boon for lawyers and corporations that wants to know the actual identity of who made a negative post on Yelp.
And how about your 4 million millionaires in the USA, who could probably afford the cost of the ISP logs for their state or locality, some of whom may wish to dox their competitors.
This is really going to be fun when we get to purchase the web history of the families of all our congressmen.
Allowing the selling off browser history in a country that private contractors supply arms for the military a dangerous and reckless action that has terrible consequences that threaten America's security.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
They also believe that 9/11 was an inside job, the lunar landings were a hoax, the holocaust never happened (nor the cold war either), and that the earth is actually flat.
Guess it's time to get dd-wrt and openvpn running at home again.. we shouldn't have to protect ourselves from an ISP that we pay every damn month!
I go 100 platitudes, but a relevant one ain't one.
The vote counts in the OP are significantly in error according to official tallies
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml
This shows 15 republicans voted against the measure.
Final vote was 215 to 205.
He rejected both parties because he's worse than either one. And you're the dumbass that got fooled.
18 years of either using college workstations and the first few WiFi hotspots on a college campus, to using library WiFi, public WiFi, and NeighborFi. Someone else can add up the money I have saved in cable bills over that time.
I have a feeling that the conservatives who killed off the local ISPs, community fiber-optic ISPs, anonymous mesh networks, and public "one-time-fee" community internet will not be going against the rich and powerful cable companies anytime soon.
I'm just surprised more nerds don't reject the powerful cable companies and find other ways to get on-line.
* Note: Trump admitted on Howard Stern's show that he was exposed to STDs in the 80s.
Why is Snark Required?
I assume you mean that the National Enquirer would buy them to simply burn the documents. They are robust Donald Trump supporters and currently feature a story on the front page proclaiming "Trump finally caught the WH leaker!"
The best media outlet to sell them to would be Penthouse or Hustler.
I wouldn't expect any legal repercussions for the packet-sniffer as we just saw Rachel Maddow handling Trump's tax returns from 2005 and she is not in jail.
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I look forward to hearing about some ISP sticking all this data in an internet facing, insecure MongoDB and it all being leaked. Then we'll all be able to search people's entire online lives on pastebin. And you know this shit is going to happen, too.
Trump's not perfect, but at least he rejected both parties. You need to learn to appreciate that, and stop getting herded around like sheep.
You don't think you are being treated like sheep by the bully? Trump behaves like he was the Emperor of China - and with as much competence as they generally had just before they were overthrown - but as we can all see, he is only a mandarin (*wink* *wink*, did you see what I did there?)
The rest, enjoy how creepy your world becomes.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
I am just happy that none of the hot topic governmental decisions or actions do not effect me.
Of course they do. Trump is sure to expand visa programs after claiming that he would diminish them, for example. He's stepped up programs that cause people to hate us, which creates more terrorists. Under his watch, congress is selling out our data. I don't know how you imagine these things don't affect you, but get ready. You'll soon see that they do.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
If your records are for sale to anybody, no warrants will be required for any government agency to purchase them.
For all their empty talk of "freedom", the Republican party sure seems to love authoritarian rule.
Oh totally, I also love how Republicans always say they are for smaller government, but if you do any sort of math you realize that this means more power in the hands of fewer people. How exactly is that better for the American people? How is it even better for the economy? I have never met a Republican who was able to counter that argument, in fact I have had a few who changed sides after they thought about it for a couple of weeks and realized that they were being screwed violently and without any lube by the people they voted for.
OK, the reason they can do this the way they are is because the regulation in question is NEW. That means it has only been in effect for a short period of time. In other words, this law only returns things to the state they were in less than TWO YEARS ago.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Time to run constant scripted searches for nuclear goat porn. I can't wait to see a marketing meeting with on particular area on the graph labeled "alpha blocking condoms" or "geiger vibrator" or "tips for cleaning irradiated poo off your floor". ...."Dear Abby, why does my goat glow at night?".......
Apart from IP addresses (and DNS lookups) ... what can they sniff and sell? If we HTTPS all the things ... they wont really have access to as much as we think they do.
What do you mean they THINK they have that blanck check? To me it looks as if they have it.
This is what you get in a system where the winner takes all.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
My personal information including surfing and/or browsing habbits is MY intellectual property, and my ISP was served notice of such.
What if somebody else uses your WIFI and browse for something you have no interest in, yet your ISP sells that information, so all of a sudden you start getting phone calls of people trying to sell you fishing gear, which is a problem if you don't fish.
You liberals don't get it. You think the health care reform was about making money for the rich? Obamacare has resulted in health care benefits to some people, but the rates have doubled or even trippled for others. The rich and powerful aren't part of that, they are self insured. Only the poor and middle class have to use Obamacare, so it's already ripping us off.
Actually, what this did is remove the FCC from doing what the FTC has been doing. It eliminates duplicity: where the FTC had been doing the job, Wheeler (of Obama's FCC) voted to insert itself into the game and to do the same thing, so now, with this bill, instead of two alphabet agencies doing the job that one used to do successfully, one will continue doing the job it has been doing all along. Your privacy rules are still safe because the FTC never stopped defending them.
No one is forcing you to do business with said ISP. Unfortunately, in some parts of the country these guys have monopolies due to localized monopoly laws but that is a separate issue.
The vote numbers the author listed are incorrect. It was 215 to 200. No democrats voted for it (like in the Senate) and a number of Republicans voted against it (just 7 more an it would have been killed). If the Senate vote had come after the House vote, it would have been killed for sure. Still want to know why it wasn't filibustered in the Senate. Here's the roll call for these numbers:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/201...
Oddly, the FCC rule that this removes was never in effect until December. So, before then these ISP's were already selling our data.
Not really.
I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. I do believe many Muslims in America cheered on that day, and many of them were living in New York and New Jersey.
I trust that we did land men on the Moon, returned them to Earth, and could do it again.
The Earth is not, in fact, flat.
The Nazi Holocaust, one of several attempted genocides in human history, did happen. I've met both survivors and liberators.
I believe that Trump ran as a Republican, but was rejected by the GOP leadership and most Republican elected representatives, which is obvious upon inspection of the record. He has no friends in either party leadership. And the GOP leadership is dedicated to avoiding defeat, rendering them virtually (in the literal sense of that word) unable to govern.
I believe that my Internet provider has been selling data on how I use their service despite and ind defiance of existing laws. And repealing any regulation or law to prevent it will change little or nothing. Even accountability cannot be legislated in the current environment. Pretending your Internet use is in any way secret is fantasy, and you should act as if everything it known and used to your disadvantage. Want proof?
- Search for 'Shipping Containers'
- Watch the ads you see change to focus on shipping containers. Everywhere. For a long time.
- Search for something you want to buy.
- Then buy it.
- Watch the ads focus on the item you no longer need to purchase.
- When you do look to purchase something, especially a commodity item, watch for pricing to change as much as +/- 150% across different sites. Remember who wanted to overcharge you.
- Learn to ignore online ads, or, if you wish to punish them, take a moment and click through in a new window or tab. Leave it there and go on about your business. Let them build a false profile, and false empty clicks.
We have been inundated by advertising all my life. TV and radio commercials focused on the assumed audience. Print ads less so, so more and more outrageous. Streaming your TV doesn't solve it, it focuses their attention - they no longer have to shotgun the ads at a wide audience based on brute force metrics, they can literally hit you between the eyes because you streamed 'xxx'. As if the apps, services, all that weren't gathering up information about you to sell everywhere, even back to your ISP, so they know how much to overcharge you.
Really, you think you're going to win any of this? NO, we should be looking to profit from the use of our information. Even discounts based on preferential marketing aren't enough. When we can make them pay us for our eyeballs, we have a chance to at least derive some minimal value.
Whatever you think, Trump is either the cure or the symptom. He is not the disease, and he is not part of the problem. He may not be the solution, but he is not what came before. That alone is not a negative. Get over it. The U.S. government is out of control, and it will be a painful process to either rein it in or succumb to it. Which path will we choose?
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Since it is now for sale. What is the cost of getting all of the ISP information for every Congressman and Senator? An curious citizenry want's to know.
Calvin:Do you believe in the devil? Hobbes:I'm not sure man needs the help.
Unfortunately I did not experience that. I voted for one of the other ones but and even if everyone who voted 3rd party in my stat had voted for one of the major party ones it still wouldn't have flipped the outcome of my state.
Time to offend someone
I already surf with a VPN most of the time. Will this protect my privacy, since the VPN will only see me connected to the VPN so there isn't much to disclose there. Now, I'm now worried that my VPN will sell my history.
My first thought is that nobody in their right mind would vote for this unless it was a part of something else that made a lot of sense. There's probably a lot mor eto the story that you aren't hearing because of a biased source.
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Sic semper tyrannis.
https://searchinternethistory.com
Looks like someone is going to start buying congress critters history for all the world to see! I for one, approve of this site.
It would be really nice if these assholes^Ynice representatives of ours would actually represent the people.
-Miser
VPN, or browse through a cloud computer running x2go.
Cheap storage VM.
Will your data be mined if you VPN to an out-of-country provider?
FTFY
Actually there is a difference. Google is using their data internally and only for product placement. Annoying, yes. Nefarious, no. That kind of data could be used for all sorts of things completely unrelated to trying to get me to buy a company's goods and services. RESIST
Let's start a crowd source campaign to raise money to buy all the internet history of the people who voted for this and publish it to wikileaks. If it sells for $10k per, then we're looking at a goal of just short of $3 million.
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Your data individually has almost no value, like arround some dollars max a year. You have the right to buy it.
One side, there shall be a precendent case of suing your ISP to buy your own data with exclusive right.
Another side, when it comes to business law, when you produce something called a "product" (in this case your data), you have your word to say on it whatever the congress vote.
(sorry for the typos, my english is not top top)
$35-70 billion?
Is the average household's Internet info really worth $350?
Partisan politics is a trap and if you fall into it you are a complete fool, and no, your money and status do not exempt you from this
Whatever you think, Trump is either the cure or the symptom. He is not the disease, and he is not part of the problem.
What? Of course he is. He is not the whole disease, but he is part of the disease. Think of THE PROBLEM (greed) like HIV. It attacks the immune system and makes you susceptible to other illnesses (Clinton, Trump, etc.)
Trump is a hypocrite. What more do you really need to know?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I believe that my Internet provider has been selling data on how I use their service despite and ind defiance of existing laws. And repealing any regulation or law to prevent it will change little or nothing. Even accountability cannot be legislated in the current environment.
I don't understand all the excuses being made for Trump and the Republicans. They sell out the interests and rights of the individual to unethical companies, and you just say "it doesn't really change anything". That's like saying that murder is happening anyway, so might as well legalize it. People are going to murder each other either way, right? To strike a little closer to home - should we just go ahead and open the borders and let any immigrant in? After all, immigrants are already coming over illegally, and to borrow your terminology "any regulation or law to prevent it will change little or nothing."
Admit it, this is the Republicans giving carte blanche to ISPs to totally sell out their customer's privacy. Stop rationalizing it.
Whatever you think, Trump is either the cure or the symptom. He is not the disease, and he is not part of the problem. He may not be the solution, but he is not what came before. That alone is not a negative.
Trump is a self-centered demagogue and he's incompetent to boot, and it's shocking that anybody with the sense to put a coherent sentence together doesn't see right through it. Trump is the symptom, the disease, and a huge part of the problem, even if there are forces that have helped to get him to where he is. Just because Trump is different, does not mean that he is in any way better. Cancer is different than the cold or the flu, but that doesn't make it a remedy to either disease.
For all their empty talk of "freedom", the Republican party sure seems to love authoritarian rule.
Randians (especially) and Libertarians have this fantasy of a free market, that an enlightened populace will choose the best value. This doesn't happen in practice, but it's why they detest a government telling them how to sell and how to do things, but they're totally fine with "huge conglomerate X" dictating terms that the little guy can't fight against. For them, if you're doing business with "huge conglomerate X," it's because you like them and you want to. They believe that absolute government hands-off means that the companies will reflect the actual will of the people because otherwise people would take their business elsewhere.
Oh, oh. Be afraid. Be very afraid!
America’s first national motto(1782): E pluribus unum (Out of many, one.)
America’s second national motto(1956): In God we trust.
America’s third national motto(2017): The best government money can buy.
Oh, oh. Be afraid. Be very afraid!
I'd be happy with aware. Barring that, awake would do.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yes the Republicans have been pushing for this since SOPA,
What? SOPA was mostly democrats.
I called my congressman and two senators, who all voted yes, to ask why they did so. The staffer for the congressman said that the resolutions supposedly provides for aggregation. I've read nothing in the resolution, or the 3 or 4 articles about the resolution, that says there was any aggregation of records. Did I miss something? Why do this at all if there is aggregation? Isn't the point of this to sell stuff directly to people? How would that work if there is aggregation?
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Is the voting record always published in such an obfuscated way?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml
Last names mostly all names are merged with the vote.
AbrahamYea
AdamsNay
AderholtYea
AguilarNay
AllenYea
AmashNay
AmodeiYea
ArringtonYea
Warrants from benjamin franklin won't likely hold enough weight you need salmon p chase, maybe ten of them will get into the game.
Well, it is quite foreseeable what our future generations will go through with republicans poised to conquer the whole world with their shitty agenda. https://www.purevpn.com/blog/m...
When Clinton lost the losers started attacking the Electoral College as something that needs to be eliminated but if they had won the election they would be falling all over themselves support the Electoral College and ridicule anyone suggesting the Electoral College be changed or eliminated.
Actually, the only loser here was Trump who was desperate enough to claim a landslide, then furthered it by manufactured claims about illegal votes.
Opposition to the Electoral College, and to the Malapportionment in the House existed before this election, before Bush in 2000, and if you want to see a corrupt bargain, try 1824 or 1876.
Now? You have people telling you that they told you so, and will next year, and the year after.
When will you listen?
That type of duplicity and situation policy making will do more harm to the US even if Trump held office for the next 20 years.
The only person with a documented record of duplicity on the electoral college is Donald J. Trump.
That said, I would not be surprised if he tried to abrogate the 22nd Amendment as well. Fortunately, dud to his age and incompetence, it is likely to be a nonissue.
What? SOPA was mostly democrats.
Not really the issue that is coming through here. Support and opposition was mostly bipartisan, but as a matter of principle, it came from different directions.
One of the factors from the right in opposition was "Screw Hollywood" a sentiment that doesn't quite hit Madison Avenue. Nor does it quite develop a true sense of privacy among a lot of the right. Rand Paul is still an outlier, after all.
Do you believe the bs that you spew, or are you aware that you're an indoctrinated puppet?
How did you guys get so brainwashed? None of this makes any sense from an analytical perspective. Have you considered that maybe "the enemy" isn't really your enemy, and maybe they're telling the truth about the media manipulating the masses, and maybe the media has more control over your own opinions than you'd like to admit?