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Hacker Leaks 'Orange Is the New Black' Episodes After Failing To Extort Netflix (bleepingcomputer.com)

An anonymous reader writes: "A hacker (or hacker group) known as The Dark Overlord (TDO) has leaked the first ten episodes of season 5 of the "Orange Is The New Black" show after two failed blackmail attempts, against Larson Studios and Netflix," reports BleepingComputer. The hacker said he stole hundreds of gigabytes of audio files from Larson Studios last December. "TDO claims the studio initially agreed to pay a ransom of 50 Bitcoin ($67,000) by January 31, and the two parties even signed a contract, albeit TDO signed it using the name 'Adolf Hitler.'" This might have been the reason why the company thought this was a joke and didn't pay the ransom as initially agreed.

At this point, the hacker turned from the studio to Netflix, but the company didn't want to pay either. As a warning, the hacker leaked the first episode of season 5, but half a day later, he leaked 9 more. "According to Netflix's website, season 5 is supposed to have 13 episodes and is scheduled for release in June, this year." The hacker also claims he's in possession of shows and movies from other movie studios and television channels, such as FOX, IFC, NAT GEO, and ABC. Some of the titles include "Celebrity Apprentice," "NCIS Los Angeles," "New Girl," and "XXX The return of Xander Cage".

144 comments

  1. Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was news on THURSDAY. It is not news, now. What the fuck, Slashdot?

    1. Re: Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miss Mash and "Beau the Millenial" are too busy doing each other to read the news.....

    2. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by muphin · · Score: 1

      All news is new if you havent seen it before!

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    3. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This WAS NOT news on Thursday. He leaked it on Saturday you incompetent twat! Learn to troll better

    4. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe your brain is too small to understand the concept of time zones.

    5. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      An 48 hour timezone difference? Do you understand the concept of "day"?

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    6. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The threat was made on Thursday you moranic buffoon.

    7. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you?

    8. Re:Did I wake up two days ago? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      lol. So where is it Thursday when it's Saturday in London? Do enlighten.

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  2. And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nothing of any value was lost.

    1. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, except for opportunity cost of $67k in lost chicken tenders for Basement Hitler.

    2. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the two parties even signed a contract, albeit TDO signed it using the name 'Adolf Hitler.'"

      You know who else signed using the name 'Adolf Hitler'?

    3. Re: And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adolf Hitler.

    4. Re: And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godwin's law, you lose

    5. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Martin Bormann, Hitler's secretary.

    6. Re: And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godwin's law says nothing about losing. You lose.

  3. Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you have Netflix, you'll watch it when it comes out in June.
    If you pirate, you'll pirate it when it comes out in June.

    This is only letting pirates get it early, but they can't talk about it mainstream, lest they out themselves as a pirate.

    1. Re:Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are probably right, this doesn't matter. This one show is not the reason people sub to netflix and quite frankly they would probably prefer you pirated it. People still watch it and remain subscribed for the next season and other shows while not using their bandwidth on this one.

    2. Re:Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Orange is the New Black is a very popular show, surely the most popular show by Netflix. And there's a reason they spend money making it.

    3. Re:Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is only letting pirates get it early, but they can't talk about it mainstream, lest they out themselves as a pirate.

      ...and, even worse, as a normie.

    4. Re: Who cares. by reanjr · · Score: 1

      Sure, but Netflix churn is the lowest in the industry. So, it's questionable how much impact something like this would have on subscriber numbers.

    5. Re:Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lest they out themselves as a pirate.

      Oh no, the horror. They'll forever be known as "that filthy car downloader"

    6. Re:Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have Netflix, you'll watch it when it comes out in June.
      If you pirate, you'll pirate it when it comes out in June.

      This is only letting pirates get it early, but they can't talk about it mainstream, lest they out themselves as a pirate.

      Aye Matey, us pirates must keep pirate code. Arrrg, or walk the plank.

    7. Re: Who cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think none. That show sucked midway through season two. You can only milk this jail thing so much. IMHO it is not worth watching even for free, your time would be better spent elsewhere.

    8. Re: Who cares. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I change cable providers ever two years but I have kept Netflix ever since I signed up for it.

      I came across the first episode on FB and I watched it. I liked it. I will watch the season when it's officially released.

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    9. Re:Who cares. by Binkleyz · · Score: 1

      I agree. And don't call me Shirley.

  4. Wow by kamapuaa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What a triumph of free speech.

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    1. Re:Wow by rockout · · Score: 2

      I don't think this matters much. Anyone likely to download the leaked episodes wouldn't pay for Netflix anyway; they're just getting the episodes earlier, and that's a small % of the viewing audience. Anyone who pays for Netflix and watches these episodes legit isn't likely to go figure out Bittorrent and get them early either. So who cares? Obviously not Netflix.

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    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not free speech
      until official release, this falls under "confidential information"

    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are mistaken. As a netflix customer, I feel more than justified downloading via bittorrent - and I don't like to wait. A better question is, if I am paying for Netflix anyway, is there any harm being done?

    4. Re:Wow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What about those who pay for Netflix but aren't getting content in a timely manner (most series), see content disappear after a year (there's been a terrible purge here recently), or aren't getting the content at all? The availability and selection in certain smaller countries is kind of rubbish compared to what one gets in the US or the UK. So yes, in some cases even Netflix subscribers have to resort to Bittorrent. Maybe this is due to outdated license models, where one can buy the rights to show something in country X for a period of Y months or some such, instead of a license granting the right to show it everywhere for a certain amount per view. In the meantime I sure hope my country will at some point revive its old policy on piracy: "If content isn't available legally, then we don't prosecute people who pirate it". If you don't sell your content here, you should have no recourse against pirates; remember that copyright is not a natural right but something cooked up to encourage production and distribution of cultural works, by granting artists a temporary monopoly that enables them to make some money off their creation. I will pay for content, but if you will not take my money I have zero moral objections to availing myself of your works by other means.

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    5. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, according to Slashdot piracy is free speech.

    6. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you delete the files when you unsubscribe from Netflix.

    7. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, according to Mexico's Supreme Court piracy is free speech.

      FTFY.

    8. Re:Wow by baker_tony · · Score: 4, Funny

      "if I am paying for Netflix anyway, is there any harm being done?"
      Yes, hundreds of kittens will be murdered and the tooth fairy will get run over if you watch downloaded shows that weren't downloaded right.

    9. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will pay for content, but if you will not take my money I have zero moral objections to availing myself of your works by other means.

      It's still theft. Let's say I produce a TV show that was aired but because of disputes with writers and musicians I can't get the rights to sell the DVD or stream it. Pirates create DVDs or stream it illegally and everyone who worked on it is out, while the pirate either makes money on it, or you get it for free.

      Granted it would be better to settle the dispute, but sometimes this is not possible and you are still stealing it and not paying me for it.

      If you have no moral objections there's not much else I could say to convince you - but I hope you don't find yourself in such a predicament because you will have no ground to stand on and no one to help you.

    10. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why creative works like this should not be sold for royalties. It's terrible how much content will never see the light of day again because royalty rates can't be agreed upon.

    11. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is it free speech?
      Please explain to us.

    12. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still theft

      No, it may be copyright infringement, depending on the jurisdiction. Some places it's not even illegal.

    13. Re:Wow by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      What about those who pay for Netflix but aren't getting content in a timely manner (most series), see content disappear after a year (there's been a terrible purge here recently), or aren't getting the content at all?

      Take your complaints to the studios demanding fees so high that Netflix would lose money by carrying their content. Any more questions?

    14. Re:Wow by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 2

      What about those who pay for Netflix but aren't getting content in a timely manner (most series), see content disappear after a year (there's been a terrible purge here recently), or aren't getting the content at all?

      They should stop paying for Netflix.

      Personally I've shelled out for Netflix for years and while it doesn't show me everything I want when I want I'm pretty satisfied. And I like OITNB, but I really am not going to go out of my way to see it before its official release. If there were some deleted scenes I might be tempted but I haven't pirated anything since I cut the cord and had to torrent the last few episodes of Breaking Bad.

      I actually felt a little guilty about that because it was available on iTunes at the time, but I didn't want to have anything to do with iTunes. And now the entire series is on Netflix. I could have just waited - and the last episode was worth at least $1.99 or whatever the price was on iTunes.

      Seriously, it costs next to nothing. If you don't think it's worth $10 (or whatever it is) don't pay for it. I'm currently miffed because despite getting Amazon Prime too I can't watch the latest season of Hap and Leonard without paying $1.99 per episode.

      Such are the problems of not paying $150 a month for cable TV.

      And is $1.99 so bad? It's not really and didn't many of us clamor for a la carte choices? It doesn't get much more a la carte than paying per an episode and compared to what we'd pay to see a movie in a theater it's not a terrible price either.

      I'm actually more disappointed in having to pay both Amazon and Netflix for my TV-watching experience because I can only watch one at a time, but there is enough exclusive content to make each worthwhile and I've got a long way to go before I exhaust all of their libraries - and by that time I'm sure a new season of Trailer Park Boys will be out on Netflix.

    15. Re:Wow by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Even in the UK the selection is crap. iPlayer is getting worse too. Poor picture quality, poor selection.

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    16. Re:Wow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping that Netflix will start flexing its muscles a bit more. Same as Apple did when they started selling songs online, when the music industry was still very much used to the album model. Now they've gone to a pay-per-play model, with most distributors offering an all you can eat subscription. I'm hoping the TV and movie industry will make the same shift at some point. Not because I want to pay less but because I want to pirate less, and this region crap and artificial scarcity make no sense in a pay-per-play situation.

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    17. Re:Wow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      If you cannot or will not offer your TV show in my country, then I'm not even depriving you of potential income by pirating that show. How is that theft? In your example, you might argue that you hope to sell the show on DVD at some point in the future, after you've settled the dispute. In that case I agree that it would be wrong to download the show, and it would certainly be wrong to make and sell bootleg copies. Or maybe you want to have the show on TV first, maybe as an exclusive, before offering it on Netflix. That's fair enough if the terms are within reason, but such licensing models (including the idea to negotiate licenses for different media and rights for other countries separately) are what gives rise to smaller regions getting the shaft in case of US content, and some content never making its way outside its country of origin. That goes counter to the spirit of copyright, which exists to promote the creation and proliferation of art. The royalties that go to those involved in the process are a means, not an end. In that spirit I'd be much in favour of (shock horror!) government putting limitations on the artificial scarcity that may be created in license agreements. But it seems we're going in the opposite direction, with copyright terms being extended again and again, and a USA that is very aggressively pushing for other countries to conform to its notion of copyright that serves the creators rather than the public.

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    18. Re:Wow by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      It's not netflix.

      First warner and then stars and then others raised the cost of their content to netflix by as much as 1000%.

      They were going to monetize it for their own, $10 a month stations.

      But you know what.. I don't WANT to pay $10 to netflix and $10 to warner and $10 to stars, and $10 to....

      Netflix was the rare bird who gave great content at a reasonable price.

      I'm irritated that Prime split the market and then set up a kludgy interface which constantly tries to upsell me non-free shows. I used it some- and used it for Dr. Who. But I'm irritated by Prime's interface and I finally have mostly stopped using it.

      Currently watching Wynonna Earp on Netflix.

      I will NOT pay $10 to AMC, NBC, CBS, ABC, Warner, Stars, Etc. etc. etc. It is not reasonable.

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    19. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only confidential among a certain group. If someone outside of that group gets it, they're not bound to it.

    20. Re:Wow by trawg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What about those who pay for Netflix but aren't getting content in a timely manner (most series), see content disappear after a year (there's been a terrible purge here recently), or aren't getting the content at all?

      This is why Netflix spend $1b on technology per year and $4b on creating new content. They know if they own the content they can set the worldwide licensing rules. I hope they use this to force the other content owners to make more reasonable licensing decisions but given they seem to have failed to display adaptability for ~20 years I suspect they won't.

    21. Re:Wow by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Moreover if you already have and keep a Netflix subscription, Netflix isn't harmed if you watch them on some pirate site. After all netflix does not show commercials, so their is no loss of ad revenue. If anything it saves Netflix some bandwidth, their costs go down!

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    22. Re:Wow by swb · · Score: 1

      They are flexing their muscles buy creating/buying their own exclusive content. The entire goal seems to be to have enough unique content to attract and maintain a decent audience, making third parties negotiate harder for content.

      I think the culture of Hollywood (from mansions to coke to sports cars) is probably the root of all of it. Maybe Netflix should have tried to bootstrap a new center of film & TV production outside of Hollywood to re-invent the culture from the ground up, or at least have less of the traditional Hollywood mindset.

    23. Re:Wow by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      You are decreasing the value of a country-specific license to your country, and thus making it even less likely to get one in the future.

      As the goal is to make it financially worthwhile to produce shows, this is detrimental to you (and everyone else, not just in your country) in the long run.

      Having shows be worldwide, especially in China and India now, brings in extra cash that helps shows survive that otherwise wouldn't, if they just relied on US, or pure western sales.

      In a sense, that worldwide sales is what's funding an explosion in new content from many non-traditional producers (i.e. not major TV networks) where it would struggle just relying on US sales.

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    24. Re:Wow by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, PCs outsold Macs 10 to 1. So people wrote games for the PC and only ported the huge successes to Macs. The rule was it was better to try for 10% of PC sales than 50% of Mac sales.

      With literally a magnitude more people and then some (even if most are lower per-person dollars) the cash is there and there's a land rush to take a grab at it.

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    25. Re:Wow by Tukz · · Score: 1

      Make a global platform, where the networks can add their catalogue.
      I'd gladly pay $50+ for that.

      Not $10 per network on each of their own software platforms that may, or may not, work on my devices.

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    26. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, according to Mexico's Supreme Court piracy is free speech.

      FTFY.

      I'm glad to hear that. I've always said Mexico is the world's greatest judiciary with no crime or corruption, gang violence, or problems of any kind.

      Mexico should be a shining beacon to the barbaric cultures that surround it.

    27. Re:Wow by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      9 of 13 episodes, anyone desperate enough to download this is going to be very dissappointed in the lack of an ending. This could actually increase netflix subscriptions just to find out how it ended.

    28. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure you don't know what theft means. You're thinking of copyright infringement, an entirely different thing.

    29. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, because stealing deprives the owner of the thing you stole. Since they still have possession of the thing, stealing didn't occur. This argument is the entire reason copyright was invented, to ensure the content creators could hold a limited monopoly, to encourage creation of new content. The real problem is Mickey Mouse. He should have been in the public domain like 70 years ago. But Disney has spent considerable resources lobbying to have the copyright terms extended over and over to the point that nothing will ever enter the public domain again, unless the owner releases it intentionally. Effectively, there is no "limited" part to the monopoly anymore, and people are starting to get pissed.

    30. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "Anyone likely to download the leaked episodes wouldn't pay for Netflix anyway"

      Also anyone who is currently subscribing to Netflix and downloads these, isn't particularly likely to suddenly *unsubscribe* from Netflix?

    31. Re:Wow by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      This is why Netflix spend $1b on technology per year and $4b on creating new content. They know if they own the content they can set the worldwide licensing rules. I hope they use this to force the other content owners to make more reasonable licensing decisions but given they seem to have failed to display adaptability for ~20 years I suspect they won't.

      It's all about the money.

      Distributors worldwide are paying big bucks for exclusivity. If Netflix wants in, they're going to have to ante up a lot of cash to get non-exclusivity. The content makers know that distributors will pay much more for exclusive rights than non-exclusive rights, and it unfortunately will take a lot of licensors of non-exclusive rights in order to make up for what a distributor will pay.

      So yes, Netflix can do it, they won't because it costs a lot of money and the content makers know that unless people like Netflix step up to the plate, the old content distribution methods will remain.

    32. Re:Wow by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Same as Apple did when they started selling songs online, when the music industry was still very much used to the album model.

      The movie industry learned a bit of a lesson from the music industry, and have made sure that they're not beholden to any particular service like the music industry became to Apple. The streaming choices are all very fractured, no particular company can claim dominance, and the movie studios seem like they're totally ok with totally withholding some content from the streaming world entirely, and withholding other content for anything other than an exorbitant price and locked-in DRM.

    33. Re:Wow by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Netflix was the rare bird who gave great content at a reasonable price.

      Which is one of the reasons why the studios have tried so very hard to kill Netflix. They were quite open and vocal about their belief that Netflix's model absolutely screwed them over in the DVD era. Before streaming, everyone loved Netflix and you could get an amazing variety of things at a reasonable price, all in one place. But again, the studios HATED the fact that Netflix didn't charge premium prices for "premium" titles, they hated the fact that it was not pay-per-view, they hated the fact that rentals took away from their DVD sales numbers. They never forgave Netflix, and now that streaming puts the power back into studio hands, they are doing their best to cut off Netflix's oxygen supply.

      Now that the studios can dictate who can stream, how, and with what prices, we see exorbitant prices, pay per view, many many services all with their own content, and nothing resembling anything like Netflix from the old days -- one-stop shopping for a reasonable price. And people wonder why old fogies like myself think streaming sucks compared to what we used to be able to get.

    34. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name it something that describes the communal nature of your broadcasting, something like ComCast.

    35. Re:Wow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Point is: we don't/shouldn't need country-specific licenses. These things make sense in the world of broadcast TV with a one-off screening, not in the world of streaming or downloading where viewing can take place anytime, anywhere. I suppose in some cases you want or have to make country-specific deals when you are dealing with national entities or when you want to offer lower prices in developing countries for instance. But in the case of companies like Netflix it makes no sense. Charge by view instead of by country: 10 views in the Netherlands ought to be just as valuable as 10 views in the States if charged per view, so offer the license thusly. And yes: at first glance this will be a less valuable license deal, since with per-country licenses the smaller countries usually get shafted on the price (per viewer) as well. But what is more valuable to rights holders: a per-country license so expensive that the likes of Netflix are never going to pick it up for certain countries, or a per-view license in those countries resulting in even just a 1% penetration?

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    36. Re: Wow by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      I know some content is paid by streams per month, but don't know about this. So there's probably pennies not being kicked back to the OTNB owners.

    37. Re: Wow by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      That takes away the incentive to create more content. If I bought the content, I'm going to milk that shit to death. Creators go broke.

    38. Re: Wow by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      It's Amazon and Netflix's fault you can only watch one thing at a time? Try evolution, buddy. Two eyes, two ears, one brain. You can try and watch both at the same time, but it's going to suck.

    39. Re:Wow by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      You are decreasing the value of a country-specific license to your country, and thus making it even less likely to get one in the future.

      Still confusing cause with effect. HBO managed to pull their heads out after years of Game of Thrones being the most torrented show online, and offered a streaming service that wasn't tethered to a cable subscription. They need to make their content available, in a reasonable way and reasonable price, before they can whine about "piracy".

      Besides, if you refrain from downloading XYZ show/movie from bittorrent because you're holding out hope in your heart of hearts that the studio will pull its head out and distribute it in your country - how are they supposed to know? Telepathy?

  5. Spoiler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This season has some chicks in prison and one if them converts to Unitarianism. Hilarity ensues when Piper tries to convince her of the trinitarian nature of the deity.

  6. The trolls have won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See this? This is why we can't let internet trolls normalize racism.

    Next thing you know, people will actually care about Netflix again.

  7. And Netflix executives think by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Hacker provides much more than $57000 worth of free publicity for our series"

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    1. Re:And Netflix executives think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, these Slashdot articles about hackers are pure publicity gold. Definitely worth the loss of subscriptions.

    2. Re: And Netflix executives think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No but the ones on CBS, MSN, Fox, etc do amount to a lot of free publicity before the show comes out.

      What's even better is they'll get all the press again when reviewers can openly review the episodes... right now this is just inflating the hype train for free a month before they're supposed to be released.

    3. Re: And Netflix executives think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this some kind of stunt by Focks? "You'll stoop so low as to pirate shows, it's not so much further to watch our shows. You know you want to."

    4. Re: And Netflix executives think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Several people at work have now signed up with Netflix as a result of this. People like the binge watch on demand without the hassle of downloading files that netflix offers.

      So so funny.

    5. Re:And Netflix executives think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what sub loss is that exactly? You seriously expect people to cancel their account because part of a new series was leaked (an account they will need the account for to finish watching)? Just who do you think this is driving off? This was the most ill-conceived blackmail plot I have ever seen.

    6. Re:And Netflix executives think by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      You seriously expect people to cancel their account because part of a new series was leaked (an account they will need the account for to finish watching)?

      I would think so, in that people could unsub until the new episodes came out, but Netflix works on a "release all at once" model. So the last episode of the season comes out the same day as the first. And you don't pay per episode, so the cost to get just the final few episodes is the same as the cost to get the entire series, and it all happens at the same time.

      The only people who this lost-subscriber theory might apply to are the folks who would have watched the first few episodes and thought "well this sucks now, I don't need to see the rest." Unsubscribing based just on the first few episodes of the new season. I would think that group would be fairly small.

  8. Give me the rest of season 3 of The Leftovers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a show that is already spent. ;)

    1. Re:Give me the rest of season 3 of The Leftovers! by Sir+Holo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not a show that is already spent. ;)

      I just watched the pilot of the Leftovers. Bo-o-o-oring!

      And it coming from the guy who was responsible for "Lost", all Haley's dream, is three strikes against it already. Bringing in the supernatural once you've painted yourself into a corner is lazy writing.

      I threw the rest of the Leftovers into the garbage disposal.

    2. Re:Give me the rest of season 3 of The Leftovers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad, you're missing out on a great show.

    3. Re:Give me the rest of season 3 of The Leftovers! by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Bringing in the supernatural once you've painted yourself into a corner is lazy writing.

      Isn't the entire premise of the series from the very first second based on the supernatural?

    4. Re:Give me the rest of season 3 of The Leftovers! by Ericular · · Score: 1

      Once you get through the first half of season one, it starts firing on all cylinders.

      Being burned by Lost, I was skeptical too... but even if this one ends stupid it will still have been light years better than Lost.

  9. New TV Series by PocketPick · · Score: 2

    I'll be eagerly looking forward to the soon-to-be-announced reality TV version of "Orange is the New Black", starting the members of The Dark Overlord hacker group.

    1. Re:New TV Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange is the New Dark

    2. Re:New TV Series by antdude · · Score: 1

      And probably in Mr. Robot. ;)

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  10. Re:Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  11. Signed it as Hitler? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    1. Re:Signed it as Hitler? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

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  12. Right Decision by CrankyFool · · Score: 1

    "Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute."

  13. At Least It Was Their Own Content by phmadore · · Score: 1

    Luckily it's Netflix's own IP that was leaked, and it won't affect their partnerships with other studios, although they obviously need to get a handle on their security.

    1. Re:At Least It Was Their Own Content by sg_oneill · · Score: 2

      Luckily it's Netflix's own IP that was leaked, and it won't affect their partnerships with other studios, although they obviously need to get a handle on their security.

      From the sounds of it they hacked the studio, not netflix themselves

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    2. Re:At Least It Was Their Own Content by phmadore · · Score: 1

      Oh, good point. Maybe that's why Netflix didn't want to pay: they were like, hey, this is your fault, fix it.

    3. Re:At Least It Was Their Own Content by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe Netflix was like; "The first 10 episodes and not the final 3 episodes of the season? Wow, we couldn't have planned this any better ourselves!".

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    4. Re:At Least It Was Their Own Content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After Sony and others in the past - ZERO lessons have been learned.
      It is contributory negligence on their part. Just pay for run of the mill security - job done.
      With all the wikileaks leaks of late, the government has been sabotaging security, keeping holes open. So now we start attacking vendors for unfit software perhaps?

    5. Re:At Least It Was Their Own Content by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      So in other words .. Netflix did it!

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  15. How do you trust Hitler? by DidgetMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the companies just decided that the extortionist was probably going to leak the videos anyway. Once the ransom is paid, there is absolutely nothing preventing him from releasing it. It's not like he has any morals whatsoever that might prevent him from double-crossing them. So it's just better to keep the money and not give an incentive for the next pirate hacker to try it too.

    1. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps Netflix figured the people who'd go looking for these videos likely would be hunting for torrents once the season is released, regardless.

      If you figure you're not going to get a dime out of the folks who are the likely audience for these stolen videos, what financial incentive is there to pay the ransom?

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    2. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by Unnamed+Chickenheart · · Score: 1

      I think the standard procedure it to repeat the request for money if they pay your first ransom.

      For what's better than a lot of money? MORE lots of money! If they were willing to pay e.g. 68.000$ or whatever in the first place, then perhaps they're willing to pay... let's say... the same sum again?

      Thus no one can trust a blackmailer, especially when it's digital wares.

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    3. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I was imagining that they were working with the FBI, and they were playing along in an attempt to get more information on the perpetrator's identity.

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    4. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by Eloking · · Score: 1

      Maybe the companies just decided that the extortionist was probably going to leak the videos anyway. Once the ransom is paid, there is absolutely nothing preventing him from releasing it. It's not like he has any morals whatsoever that might prevent him from double-crossing them. So it's just better to keep the money and not give an incentive for the next pirate hacker to try it too.

      Well, if the hackers are bright (and they usually are), they would delete the pirated contract after they receive the money unless they want to scare potential future victims.

      Terrorist abducting in the world are a good example of this. If they killed their victim after receiveing a ransom, there won't be a second time (yeah we aren't supposed to negociate with terrorism, but the reality is that it happens : https://www.pri.org/stories/20...)

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    5. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Maybe the companies just decided that the extortionist was probably going to leak the videos anyway. Once the ransom is paid, there is absolutely nothing preventing him from releasing it. It's not like he has any morals whatsoever that might prevent him from double-crossing them.

      Sure, he probably doesn't have morals, but the question is whether he thought he could do this a second time.
      An extortionist has to be able to dangle a plausible carrot of hope in order for an extortion to be paid, otherwise the next person he tries to extort won't give him a penny. Conversely, the extortionist also has to back up his threats if his victim won't pay, otherwise he has no credibility. If you want to successfully extort more than one person, you need to be honest about what you'll do whether someone pays or doesn't pay.

      If the company is going to lose regardless, then why would they strike any deal? But if he requests a price and then upholds the bargain he demanded, the company could see that as a business cost, something they might actually go through with. Something many companies HAVE done while trying to keep hush-hush about.

      Extorting a business and then going back on the deal is, from a criminal standpoint, short-sighted. What would he actually have to gain by releasing the files if Netflix paid up?

    6. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by ColdSam · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps Netflix figured the people who'd go looking for these videos likely would be hunting for torrents once the season is released, regardless.

      If you figure you're not going to get a dime out of the folks who are the likely audience for these stolen videos, what financial incentive is there to pay the ransom?

      Except these episodes would be available BEFORE the official release which is a huge incentive for otherwise law abiding fans to find the pirated version. Once they've figured out how to do that, they may never go back.

    7. Re:How do you trust Hitler? by geekymachoman · · Score: 1

      There is.. If he leaked it anyway, next time they wouldn't pay, but if he was .. 'honest'.. maybe they would pay next time too.

  16. Bill Nye Saves The World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Uh, he also has "Bill Nye Saves The World", worst "science" show in history that calls for segregation. :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_VoH0C8G4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9x9ZiXSToY

    1. Re:Bill Nye Saves The World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's literally nothing there calling for segregation so.....

    2. Re: Bill Nye Saves The World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still pretty bad.
      It's more activism than science.
      Except if you consider mixing two flasks in front of a-ma-zed people "science".
      It is intended for a brain-dead audience. It's important but not for normal people and certainly not scientists.
      Youtube has much better content.

    3. Re:Bill Nye Saves The World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      segregation

      What's the problem? It works.

    4. Re: Bill Nye Saves The World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Bill Nye Saves the World... Not Bill Nye Science show for Scientists... The show is there as a counter balance to all the anti-science, anti-vaccine, flat earth fools in the world. If you found it to simple well then you probably don't believe in conspiracies and make believe. Was I hoping it was a show I could watch with my kids, yes. Was it that, no... but guess what Netflix also has the original series which is all about science.

    5. Re:Bill Nye Saves The World by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      Well, in the first bit, he's not calling out segregation or cultural appropriation, he's saying 'don't use exotic religious symbology to give false authority to your bullshit' and explicitly calls out Deepak Chopra for doing it.

      The second video is a guy saying, first, "I haven't even watched this show, just some random, out of context clips", then saying "I don't understand incentive-based economics, therefore they can't be real" and "I don't understand that science might have changed in twenty years."

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    6. Re: Bill Nye Saves The World by Maritz · · Score: 1

      It's important but not for normal people and certainly not scientists.

      You think science shows are aimed at scientists? lol. You live in a cartoon world, mate.

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  17. Re:Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Has Trump commented on this yet?

    I thought he signed the contract?

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  18. New Girl? Really? by porges · · Score: 2

    "New Girl" has finished its season and has not even been renewed yet, so there are no unreleased episodes of that. So..huh?

  19. Re: Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    As a Jew, I find it incredibly offensive of you to compare Trump to Hitler! I demand you apologize to Hitler immediately!

  20. Re:Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1, Funny

    Has Trump commented on this yet?

    Trump is still watching the episodes, rooting for "Red" Reznikov.

  21. So, if or when... by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    So, if or when the writers go on strike this content might have some actual value, and even then it is debatable. Otherwise this is just a wannabe looking for attention, or maybe even an inside job trying to stir up some publicity for crappy programming.

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  22. Not asking the important questions by DivineKnight · · Score: 1

    See, the problem here is that no one is asking the important questions, like does he have "Ash vs. Evil Dead" Season 3 in there somewhere? Focus, people, focus!

    1. Re: Not asking the important questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that the show wasn't very disappointing towards the end.

    2. Re:Not asking the important questions by mejustme · · Score: 1

      If we go down this route, we may as well make it worthwhile and ask him to leak the next 2 seasons of Firefly.

  23. Just pay him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Panzers ain cheap...

    1. Re:Just pay him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Panzers ain cheap...

      So the rumor is true? Exactly one month ago I read a news snippet on MAL forum that GuP live action movie will be made by a russian - japanese conglomerate. (The Wargaming.net studio of St. Petersburg, which runs WoT and Konami which owns the GuP anime, as well as the russian state investing about 15m$ and some military assistance with the heavy hardware, hoping to promote its "Tank Biathlon" world games.)

  24. Re:New Girl? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The studio probably verbally agreed to renew it, but are working around some differences on the contracts.

  25. Writers Guild Chess Moves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no evidence at all... But were I member of the writers guild union with a penchant for old school direct action I would have a hard time not using insider connections to potentially acquire and burn off the existing shows on Pirate Bay before they air, as long as I could avoid legal trouble for doing it. Once the shows are burned off in a non-monetizable way it puts the union in a much better place than having to wait 3-6 months minimum before the studios feel any hurt at all to make a deal. I am not bothering with any right/wrong analysis here but in war this is a move that makes battlefield sense. I think the bitcoin stuff is a smokescreen or perhaps one guy filling his bank account before the strike.

  26. Contract? by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A signed contract with an extortionist... WTF?

    I whose mind did the idea to sign a contract in any way make any sense at all?

    Either the hacker had to give away his complete identity in a contract that isn't legally binding (because... you know... the extortion part of the contract), or the studio had to sign a contract that is not enforcable by the hacker without giving away his complete identity (and once again, is not legally binding in any way).

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    1. Re:Contract? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      even unenforceable you can at least make sure you have all your terms straight and make sure you are both on the same page.

    2. Re:Contract? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I whose mind did the idea to sign a contract in any way make any sense at all?

      You may have a point, there. I certainly can't make any sense out of it. Is that supposed to be English?

    3. Re:Contract? by Convector · · Score: 1

      Is there actually any evidence (beyond the hacker's assertion) that any contract actually exists?

  27. No Contracts Were Harmed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever the studio may or may not have agreed to, they could not have signed a contract. You cannot sign a valid contract under duress. I would hate to be the witness to "Adolph Hitler's" signature.

  28. Celebrity Apprentice, NCIS LA, and a XXX sequel? by scourfish · · Score: 2

    Wow, those all sound like high profile works of entertainment and not garbage. I'm sure going to be disappointed at all the spoilers from the masses frantically downloading and watching these quality shows.

  29. More about Xander Please.... by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1

    I keep trying to find more information about Xander Cage, but when I google the movie name... well... you know...

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  30. This is the upside of not giving a shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about piracy: accept that whatever you have, if it's media, it'll get pirated, but those who are your customers are paying for it, so who gives a shit how many are watching, all you need is to ask how many people are paying? And if that's sufficient to justify the cost, then don't care.

    Then when some hacker comes along with extortion, YOU DO NOT GIVE A FUCK. Whether this hacker releases it or not, those who would pirate will pirate, those who will pay, pay.

    By pretending to care about piracy rates, you give extortionists like this reason to try to blackmail you. By not caring at all, THEY HAVE NO POWER OVER YOU. And, like the goblin king, they may still do their crap, but it doesn't change your life.

  31. Re:New Girl? Really? by porges · · Score: 1

    Then there are no episodes to release.

  32. Contract? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    The studio tried to sign a "contract" with a blackmailer/extortionist? Are they really surprised he signed with a fictional name? How can they not think it is a joke?

    Somehow I think this deserves to be made into a Netfilx series, where brain dead executives that only understand one way to do things, and the befuddled criminals that have to deal with them, "Uh you want us to sign a contact? For blackmail. You want us to sign a blackmail contract? We use handles, and are asking to be paid in untraceable bitcoin currency, and you want us to sign a blackmail contract... as what? The Easter Bunny? Hey I'll do you one better..."

    I'm thinking making the hackers either British al a Snatch, or possibly Russian gangster types with appropriate accents. The studio should be the ivy league Hollywood type, with a bit of valley accent. Show can be called "That's so Meta" or something... Once completed leak episodes themselves as from a fictional hacker group for fun and profit...

  33. Re:New Girl? Really? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    There might be screenplays written, however. That's happened in the past.
    Not that releasing the plot would necessarily harm "New Girl," it's a show that thrives more on the journey than the destination. "OMG, what's going to happen" is not an attitude the show cultivates.

  34. Re: Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yah gotta love how comments get downgraded if they are too critical of the Donald. Still, this is a private web site. No free speech rights here. It might, however, be nice to see who is doing the downgrades.

  35. Re: Sounds Like One Bad Hombre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, because making comments that are in poor taste is EXACTLY like genocide of a whole people, and destruction of half of Europe.