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Pepe the Frog Is Dead (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: The creator of Pepe the Frog has symbolically killed off the cartoon frog, effectively surrendering control of the character to the far right. Matt Furie, an artist and children's book author, created the now-infamous frog as part of his "Boy's Club" series on MySpace in 2005. Pepe took on a life of its own online as a meme, before being eventually adopted as a symbol by the "alt-right" in the lead-up to last year's U.S. election. In September, Hillary Clinton identified Pepe the Frog as a racist hate symbol, and Pepe was added to the Anti-Defamation League's database of hate symbols. Furie launched a campaign to "Save Pepe," flooding the internet with "peaceful or nice" depictions of the character in a bid to shake its association with white supremacy and antisemitism. But he now seems to have conceded defeat, killing the character off in a one-page strip for the independent publisher Fantagraphics' Free Comic Book Day. It showed Pepe laid to rest in an open casket, being mourned by his fellow characters from Boy's Club.
Another reason to despise Hilary and the ADL.
Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
And no one really gave a shit.
Drawing more attention to a meme isn't really the best way to kill it off. Now it's all Jesus-motif Pepes.
It's not easy being green.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Who else will Ms. Piggy cheat with to make Kermit the Frog jealous?
Feels Bad Man.
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This will only embolden the Kekistanis
You can't kill a cartoon character. You can drop an anvil on his head. You can slingshot him into a mountain. You can blow him up with TNT. All these things (and more) happen to a particular coyote, and yet every week, he still comes back. Maybe limping and wrapped in bandages, or blackened from the explosion, but alive nonetheless.
Dibs on the legs.
should've sold Pepe to Jerkcity as a cock-gobbling rent boy
Are all Trump supporters scumbags or just the vast, vast majority?
Nobody gives a flying fuck what you think.
Boy's Club? Membership of one?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
WTF is a kek?
This guy's just trying to exert control over something that's been out of his control for years. Nice try.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09...
I do.
I do. Maybe you should leave.
Well I certainly missed this meme.
Maybe because he feels that Pepe has become a symbol of a collection of people whose beliefs he finds disturbing and he'd rather not profit by catering to them.
Money isn't everything.
Basically, in World of Warcraft when a horde player typed "lol" into chat an alliance player would see "kek" because Blizzard made it so each faction couldn't chat with each other (was kind of fun really).
It evolved from there as it became an inside joke for "lol" or any kind of trolling in general.
The simplest way to understand it: trolls (horde) laughing and normies (alliance) not able to understand it.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/...
Not all share in Furie's delusion.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
The actual strip, which was not in the summary nor the article, is here: https://cdn.bleedingcool.net/w...
Another attempt to get attention. One does not simply kill a meme.
I didn't even know he was sick.
Well, /pol/ reclaimed it for them. Robots mostly just complain and eat their tendies.
The creator of Pepe the Frog has symbolically killed off the cartoon frog, effectively surrendering control of the character to the far right.
Err, no, that's not how copyright works.
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Long live Pepe the Frog!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Fuckin whiners
He's more popular than ever.
You've apparently confused Pepe for an entirely unrelated creative work that shares the same name and appearance as Pepe, but which is mostly certainly not Pepe. Given that Pepe is wholly owned by his creator and that his creator just killed Pepe off, Pepe is dead. Suggesting otherwise would mean that Pepe is not wholly owned by his creator, in which case you've just stripped his creator of the rights afforded by copyright, which suggests you don't align very well with the side you appear to be espousing.
Either Pepe is dead or copyright is dead. I'd say it's your choice, but it isn't, since the law makes it pretty clear that Pepe's the one that's dead, and you're simply mistaken.
As for this site making you throw up, it sounds like you may be experiencing high levels of stress. Might I suggest not being so invested in your own viewpoints that hearing alternative ones bothers you so? I'm still registered as a Republican* last I checked, but nothing about this article leaves me queasy in the least, other than that this guy's work was illegally co-opted against his will for something he finds abhorrent.
*Disclaimer: I didn't vote in the last election. I decided that no matter which was the lesser of two evils, I could not, in good conscience, support either of the sides. Ditto for the third-parties, who all looked to be as crazy as a bag of nuts this last time around.
Absolutely. Hitlers, too, all of them, 110%
Out of ten Trump supporters, 11 are Hitlers. The 12th is actually Hitlerina (because Trump needs someone to grab).
Racist! Especially the black Trump supporters: all black Hitlers.
I mean, Hilterry and CNN said so, so Trump is Hitler, and it was her turn after all.
Oh, and Russia! Russian Hitler!
Wait, the 'alt right' is having fun with a meme??? KILL IT! DESTROY IT!!! For the love of god and free speech, GET RID OF IT NOW!!!!
I need a unicorn frappachino and a nap now.........
Who is he at war with?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
They cooked him in a butter, wine and garlic sauce and had him for dinner over the weekend.
Maybe the groups using the Pepe could little, you know, rotate it in a more appropriate position? Something like 45 degrees could be good.
Pepe is dead, the same way Batman is dead. Killing him off didn't end him, he was just resurrected.
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Well put. I'd hoped whichever evil won this last election it would quiet the rhetoric a bit. Now the levels only seem to be getting worse on both sides. This cartoon frog probably killed himself to get away from all the mud slinging.
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The left has seized Pepe
I say we fork Pepe (or at least his legs).
I will show myself out.
May all your kek be topkek.
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is the national emblem of the Republic of Kekistan.
As an ethnic Kekistani, I am offended that someone has exterminated our national emblem!
Pepe the From will never be dead as long as a single Kekistani lives to remember him.
"suggests you don't align very well with the side you appear to be espousing."
There's no side to align with there, except for "I'm an obese, white, failure, and somebody else is to blame."
Taken in this context, everything they do makes sense.
If you're ripping off people you don't like, your emotions have already gotten in the way.
Either Pepe is dead or copyright is dead.
Ever hear of parody, dumbass? "Pepe" can be dead and copyright can be alive.
the right started using it as such and the left documented the fact. What's that old quote from Gore Vidal... "I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a conspiracy analyst".
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The character was forked and can no longer be killed.
Well, all the Hillary supporters made it quite clear that failing to vote at all was automatically a vote for Trump. So, apparently, you voted for Trump.
I have trouble with this logic. My state went with Hillary. If I had voted for Trump, my state still would have gone with Hillary and Trump still would have won. If I, and every living person in my state, had voted for Hilary, Trump still would have won.
It's a strange world....
So, what you are telling me is that Pepe is really just the Green Jesus of the internet?
Dare I say... feelsgoodman?
Nobody memeing pepe was an actual white supremacist.
Whether or not those who originated the meme included actual white supremacists, that's obviously untrue (we've all seen at least one white supremacist wearing a Pepe badge).
In fact, as people, anonymous shitposters on 4chan don't matter ... they're anonymous, duh!. What matters is the meme. You are irrelevant, your intent is irrelevant, nobody was tricked and Pepe has actually become a shibboleth.
Archer's spy organization couldn't be ISIS after Daesh took that name. 4chan did to Pepe what they did to Rage Guy and now that's dead, too. It's crystal clear 4chan's the real enemy.
In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
Either Pepe is dead or copyright is dead. I'd say it's your choice, but it isn't, since the law makes it pretty clear that Pepe's the one that's dead, and you're simply mistaken.
Copyright is dead. Has been for quite awhile. Most of us just haven't noticed it yet.
Personally, I feel if you don't vote, you have no right to complaint and I would love that the govt (regardless of which party is in power) to strip the rights from you. Kinda like the purge.
Kek is the Egyptian god of primordial darkness in the Ancient Egyptian Ogdoad cosmogony. As a concept, Kek was viewed as androgynous, his female form being known as Keket (also Kekuit). Kek and Keket in some aspects also represent night and day and were called "raiser up of the light" and the "raiser up of the night", respectively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kek_(mythology)
The deity has a head of a frog.
https://www.amazon.com/Egyptian-Frog-Goddess-Heket-Statue/dp/B001BX5PD2
While Wow stumbled onto it, thats not how Pepe got connected to it. This is.
You're making this way too easy for us. I posted an infographic labelled "White Supremacist Hand Symbols" that I found on 4chan on a troll meme page I run, it got shitloads of shares on various liberal pages. What they didn't seem to realise was that it was the American sign language alphabet. You'd think after having multiple such instances of this kind of ridicule (particularly the whole "white power" ok symbol), people would stop being so deranged. But sites like the Guardian all double down on their stupidity. Y'all need to stop before people like me discover the trolling singularity and hit the point of no return.
Personally, I feel if you don't vote, you have no right to complaint and I would love that the govt (regardless of which party is in power) to strip the rights from you. Kinda like the purge.
So, effectively, you support stripping people of their First Amendment rights by compelling them to voice support for a candidate, any candidate, lest they be stripped of all their other rights?
To say the least, I heartily disagree. I don't recommend others abstain, nor do I take it lightly, nor do I consider it acceptable just because one is feeling lazy, but I reject the notion that anyone can compel me to voice support for something I don't support, and I'd advise you to do so as well.
You should not automatically categorize people as "anti-semitic", "homophobic", "racist", "white nationalist", etc just because they oppose your political aims. You caused a cascade of events when you kept up that behavior.
Take for example all the factory workers who have lost their jobs since globalization began. They, according to Warren Buffet, are "road kill". When they protest, you do what? Call them all of the above.
There are far more categories of people than just those. You need to stop.
Sure, he may have given a reason for ceasing use of the frog artwork HIMSELF.
But the meme jihadis are going to continue using it regardless.
Hell, now that the creator's effectively renounced it, they may even use it MORE. For the lulz.
Sit back and actually THINK about this for a sec.
We've reached a point that, by effectively TOUCHING something, we create a situation where a content creator considers it "destroyed" and relinquishes ownership.
Do you realize what kind of power that imbues on people?
If you want to take something away from someone, simply do something with it they consider "offensive misuse" until they give up on it.
And you can effectively do it with pretty much ANY intellectual property these people own or use!
SIMPLY BY CO-OPTING IT!
How fucking crazy and stupid is that?
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The DNC requires that you worship your master, empress Hilary. Anything that is not worship is hate speech.
Well now I do. Thank you for drawing attention to such wonderful character. I'll be sure to use it often just to piss people off. http://i.imgur.com/2Umt69E.jpg
So Matt Furie demolishes his own house because the media wouldn't stop bugging him about how Twitter nazis were building similar looking houses and throwing wild parties in them. Despite the ADL explicitly stating that "the majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted", pro-Clinton journalists continued in their all-out effort to remove this thorn from Clinton's side. Their tactic, as usual, was to divide an unwelcome movement by shaming those susceptible to the fallacy of guilt by association. Any author could have just said "fanfic isn't my problem". Of course, the media would not have stopped until the guilt struck home so who knows how long one could withstand them. In the end some non-racist Pepe fans stopped having innocent giggles, and Furie took a sledgehammer to his creation, all merely to publicly gesture their CONCERN with baddies having had fun in tangentially the same way -- essentially handing over their personal autonomy to hand-wringing busybodies who write glorified blogs.
A: Look at this Pepe meme with a swastika armband, are you CONCERNED that you're also spreading Pepe memes on twitter?
B: My memes have no Nazi iconography, they're Smug Pepes with poofy blond hair that symbolize Trump's shameless trolling of the media
A: Yes, but they're both frogs and both derivatives of Pepe. Are you CONCERNED?
B: ...there's no connection except the frog and...
A: We're not SAYING its racist, but here's a bunch of articles that heavily imply it. Are you CONCERNED now? Will you publicly condemn it so we can play a soundbite of you accepting our worldview while implicitly echoing Clinton's assertions about her opposition?
[ad nauseam]
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Such originality in the deployment of invective! Betcha thought that one up all by yourself.
Of all the frogs Ive captured in my life, the prize was the Yellow Legged frog an endangered native of King's Kanyon National Parks because aggressive Bull Frogs guard every body of water to over-consume the lesser species before they could substantially reproduce. Bull Frogs that are invasive and non-natural west of the Rocky Mountain Range, have even decimated other native species of amphibians; Efts, newts, Tiger Salamanders, Red Salamanders, Pickeral Frogs, et al.
None of these creatures compete with eachother on equal footing as the Bull Frog rampage. None of these creatures reproduce outside their kind of genome.
So the creator of Pepe the Frog would kill all species suffering the rampage of his creature rather than reinvent his own to overtake it's own kind to be a more homely docile example of gentle breeding.
Perish the hand that freed Pepe the Frog from realizing his true potential! The sore loser, advocatevof death rather than restruction to a more resilient species! A foul beast untamed by it's master will be cut down with his master if not train and raise by the sword, thou orphan begat by adulterous thoughts!
...for you to mod-down/downvote/reject these types of memes.
They're always low quality (on par with Idiocracy/Fahrenheit 451), and basically using stock expressions (sometimes even forced or being disjoint.)
You might believe your fascist cavorting online is merely performative and so no harm is done, but when real people brush up against your performance they only see a Nazi.
Yes it's the egoistic delusion that their own internal states (which don't even exist for anyone else) are somehow the true measure of who they are and their conduct merely incidental.
Matt 7:16
Blah blah blah. You need to stop posts like this.
....he'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine!
No really. Liberals are pretty stupid. By doing this you've essentially turned the mascot in to a martyr to rally around. You've given them exactly what they wanted. I'm proud of the people who pulled this off - nothing like people freaking out over a cartoon character to show how completely divorced they are from reality.
Every time somebody raises concerns about the current trends towards hate, distrust, racism and shameless, outright lying, it seems a group of howler monkeys start up, trying to drown out any comment they don't like, using any means they have at hand. I suppose we should all be grateful they generally aren't all that intellectually well-endowed, and that most of it is just meaningless nonsense. It used to upset me, because I genuinely like to have an honest discussion about things and try to cultivate an attitude of being willing to let the arguments and the facts convince me; recently, however, I decided to not care any more. After all, reality is reality, even if people like the alt-right (or should that be 'alt-wrong'?) are too scared to face up to it. In the end, reality will win through - how could it be otherwise?
So, perhaps the best course of action is to withdrow from things, head for the hills, and let the idiots stew in their own shit; and then come back once they have killed off each other. It is certainly tempting to do so. I think those of us that remember our history lessons, will recall that what we see now has been seen before: the fascists in Italy, the nazis in Germany, the falangists in Spain, and the list goes on and on: a small group of ruthless fanatics exploit a large population of people, who feel they have little or no hope and little education, by stirring up shit and bullying anybody that opposes them. It's funny how the world turns - who would have thought, 30 or 40 years ago, that America, the Land of Freedom and Opportunity, would be the next bastion of benighted fascism? And that China would become the beacon of hope? And yet, that is where seem to be going at the moment.
Nothing stops you casting a defaced ballot.
He's more popular than ever.
You've apparently confused Pepe for an entirely unrelated creative work that shares the same name and appearance as Pepe, but which is mostly certainly not Pepe. Given that Pepe is wholly owned by his creator and that his creator just killed Pepe off, Pepe is dead. Suggesting otherwise would mean that Pepe is not wholly owned by his creator, in which case you've just stripped his creator of the rights afforded by copyright, which suggests you don't align very well with the side you appear to be espousing.
You have no idea at all how copyright works, do you? First off, Pepe is neither alive nor dead, it's freaking cartoon character. He may be dead within the author's story which doesn't make any pictures of him appearing outside of that story somehow magically not him.
Want a proof? Try printing and selling a comic book with that "completely unrelated creative work that shares the name and appearance of Pepe but which most certainly is not Pepe because Pepe is dead" and see how well your theory flies with the court when you get sued for copyright infringement on Pepe. If I draw Pepe then it is Pepe. Now, this picture may or may not be infringing copyright, but whether it infringes copyright has no bearing at all on what that picture *is*. In fact, if it is infringing copyright, it is precisely because it is Pepe. Just because the picture infringes copyright doesn't make it non-Pepe, and just because copyright is infringed doesn't make it "dead" somehow. Nor does anyone have to oppose copyright to recognise this as a (possibly copyright-infringing) picture of Pepe.
But considering that the memes are noncommercial, nonprofit, satirical uses of the character they do not even infringe upon anyone's copyright because they're covered by fair use laws.
Oh, and if you think that people like RIAA, MPAA, and the rest of Hollywood pro-copyright MAFIAA are aligned with the right then I want some of the kool-aid you're drinking, must be strong stuff.
You know OR it's fair use to use Pepe in a farsical manor to make the jokes.
Either Pepe is dead or copyright is dead. I'd say it's your choice, but it isn't, since the law makes it pretty clear that Pepe's the one that's dead, and you're simply mistaken.
For a law to have any relevance in the matter it must be effective and followed. When Pepe's creator starts suing people en mass for copyright infringement then we can declare the law won and pepe to be dead.
Until that time it is copyright which is dead.
This is comedy GOLD! Where can i get in on the meme action? I too want to annoy the easily offended, its so much fun!
. . . . Pepe arose from the dead. Although he **IS** fighting it out with Jesusraptor. Geeze, people, it's MEMES and 4CHAN. . .
Just to summarize...
There is a story, that has made "the news", where a cartoon frog has been "killed off". This frog was an obscure image that was picked up by people on the internet as a way to make on line jokes. It was one of many many images used for this purpose. As making and sharing these memes became more popular, it was used more and more to incite a reaction in other people. This actually found its way into the presidential election process. Now people are sitting around on a message board debating and visciously arguing about the topic.
I really want to ask if we can get much lower on the importance scale. But I already know that answer.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Except an electronic voting booth?
The mainstream media is absolutely retarded and when they see a bunch of Twitter posts about something they jump on it and run with it.
This is correct and there is a good reason for it. Written media, particularly newspapers, is struggling to make money. Even online sources have so much competition that everybody is fighting for the same piece of the pie and the barrier to enter and compete is low enough for everybody to do it. Written media doesn't really understand social media, so the big companies have forced their writers to be on Twitter and maintain certain numbers of followers to keep their jobs. This had led the written media to overemphasize the importance of Twitter because their pointy haired bosses don't understand it at all so they think it's more important than it really is. Also, people who follow you for any reason get you towards the magic count you have to reach to keep your job. So in sports, some writers are just rumor mongers on Twitter because it keeps people following them, even if what they say never happens. If some dude on Facebook who lives in, say, Nebraska and has a pizza delivery job and lives in his mom's basement says he doesn't like what Stephen Colbert said about Trump recently, nobody would care. But if the same nobody gets on Twitter and says the exact same thing, suddenly it becomes relevant and the media covers it. I wish I had a solution to get the media to understand that Twitter isn't important and what people say on it doesn't matter, but as long as maintaining certain levels of Twitter followers is a job requirement, it will continue to be overemphasized.
This shows that the only "internet" you know is social media. Key has nothing to do with pepe. You're spreading false information please stop contributing to the problem.
He may be dead within the author's story which doesn't make any pictures of him appearing outside of that story somehow magically not him.
Want a proof? Try printing and selling a comic book with that "completely unrelated creative work that shares the name and appearance of Pepe but which most certainly is not Pepe because Pepe is dead" and see how well your theory flies with the court when you get sued for copyright infringement on Pepe.
Copyright is intended to be used for securing for limited Times to Authors [...] the exclusive Right to their respective Writings. As such if it is Pepe, then it must be coming from the author or someone to whom he has granted a license. Anything else is a knock-off Pepe, which, depending on the degree to which it was knocked off, may or may not be an infringement of copyright.
By the logic you've proposed here, if you were to slap a Coca-Cola logo on the side of a bottle, you'd be getting sued for selling actual Coke, rather than for selling something other than Coke that can be confused for it. Granted, I chose a trademark example since it was more concrete, but the same would apply equally well to copyright. They're using Pepe's name and appearance with a derivative work that is insufficiently transformed from the original so as to distinguish it. As such, while it is something wholly different from the original Pepe, it is still similar enough to infringe on copyright.
Feels bad man
Even more fun was learning to "decode" the cross-faction speak to form words that the other side COULD understand. If I remember correctly, typing in "15 15 vgv" into local chat in Orcish would be translated to the Alliance as "HA HA lol". Much more fun than having "kek" come across when ganking people.
You've apparently confused Pepe for an entirely unrelated creative work that shares the same name and appearance as Pepe, but which is mostly certainly not Pepe. Given that Pepe is wholly owned by his creator and that his creator just killed Pepe off, Pepe is dead.
Bro only libtards try to argue like that. Are you gonna nail him on spelling errors too? Pepe isn't dead, he's been kidnapped and turned to the Trump light. You guys had to fake his death to hide the embarrassment. EAD.
You guys really gotta get with the program.
You are either a globalist shill (for pay because nobody does that for fun), or today is your first day as a human being. 4chan attacks everyone equally, but especially liberal philosophies because they're all bullshit and fake and part of a conspiracy anyway. You want special SJW cover and immunity for your schemes but you don't get it and you never will. BOO HOO. Face the sunlight, vampires! You think you're so elite but you don't even know how to win on your own internets!
The only times I've heard of this hate speech Pepe thing have been a Slahdot article posted several months ago and this one today.
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It's a shame things take on meanings other than their original intention.
Pepe was a such a happy and gay fellow, after all...
While Trump Bannon and Kushner rape the US of anything valuable these ignorant throwback confederate wannabes worship Trump because of their own racism, and most of them seem to have chimed in here on this blog. Oh Boris Epshtyn where have you and your opinionated Russian comrades gone?
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I had no idea either, but I've got no vested interested this frog. The cartoonist does.
Is slashdot saying everyone is too stupid or too insensitive or too whatever to have their own political opinions?
Money isn't everything.
If you had a decent amount of it, you would feel differently. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
You really think so? How much or how little money do you suppose I have? Because my experience has been the opposite. I've cared the most about money when it was in short supply.
I will grant you that there are plenty of people whose major motive in life is to make more and more money. And maybe it is a viscous cycle of sorts. The more they have, the more they want. Doesn't sound like somebody worth envying though.
He'd look just like Pepe