Pepe Is Banned From the Apple App Store (vice.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The rarest pepe is one found on the iOS App Store, and now we know why: Apple has categorized the meme frog as "objectionable content" and has rejected an app called Pepe Scream, Motherboard confirmed. "Your app contains images and references of Pepe the Frog, which are considered objectionable content," an Apple App Review Board employee named Nicole wrote in a rejection notice to Spirit Realm Games, the developer of Pepe Scream. "It would be appropriate to remove the references and revise the images in your app." MrSnrhms, a developer for Spirit Realm Games, gave Motherboard temporary access to the team's iOS developer account, which showed that Apple did indeed reject the app because it contains Pepe, a cartoon frog that has been increasingly associated with the alt-right. Also read: Pepe the Frog Is Dead.

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[Anonymous Coward]

muh freedom!

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[Opportunist]

Go buy a device that offers it.

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[farrellj]

Good to see it banned. It has been co-oped to be the symbol for Kek, a neo-fash (New Fascists) group that is associated with the so-called "Men's Rights Movement" and "The Red Pill". The artist who originally created the character of Pepe has been horrified by the use of his character by the alt-right/fascist movement. It, like the swastika, was a symbol with a symbol all it's own until fascists co-opted the symbol to promote hatred and intolerance.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The word "Swastika" is a Sanskrit word. Never in the short history of the Nazi regime did any German refer to it with the word "Swastika", but the word "Hakenkreuz".
What i find sad is that uneducated idiots like you refer to it as a Swastika thus vivifying a word unrelated to the Nazis which is actually important to half the world population located in Asia from religious, cultural, and historical standpoints.
Those standpoints are 2000 years old, far more than the short-lived 20 year old Nazi Regime.
In this case, it is not that words evolved, but that brains of people like yourself devolved and the vocabulary with them.
This requires correction. Not only to bring justice to the Asian people, but also to resolve the injustice perpetrated by misinformation and lack of education of people like yourself giving a cultural victory to the Nazis over a symbold they don't deserve, all because people like you are so small-minded that they need a brand recognition for an ideology even if it means offending and desecrating 2000 years of history of a continent which makes half the planet's population.
The real injustice is calling is a "Swastika", and deeming it a "hate symbol", because of shortsightedness and narrow-mindedness.

This frog meme thing being politicized and banned is a far more idiotic representation of idiocracy than what the above stated represents.
It is also pathetic, childish, and narrow-minded.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So you're for banning a cartoon character because of what groups adopted it? Are you also for jailing people for thinking differently too?

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[Anonymous Coward]

"Kek" is a god, not a "neo-fash group".

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[Anonymous Coward]

Don't worry, they will ban realist painters soon because Hitler was such a painter as well.
Associative idiocy isn't limited only to racism and misogyny, it's also inherent it seems in the very liberals that usually shame it.
They hate men as much as Hitler hated Jews. Unreasonable idiocy.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I see, you are a social justice whiner.

There is nothing wrong with the men's rights movement. Sure, there are bad elements in it just as there are bad elements in the women's rights movement, but you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I was just wondering if you wrote this before or after butt-fucking your pathetic, stupid, ugly, fat, fucking whore of a mother. Does the blood from her burst hemorrhoids make a good lubricant for your shriveled penis?

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[Anonymous Coward]

The tolerant, inclusive left, everyone.

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[Anonymous Coward]

And an Egyptian (which is in Africa) god at that.

farrelj is racist. I for one, disavow him. Anyone who doesn't disavow him is racist too.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You are so right.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Ahahaha thanks for the laugh this just gave me

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[Anonymous Coward]

No, Pepe became an alt-right meme first, then someone noticed that there is an Egyptian god "Kekuit" who appears with the head of a frog. The "Church of Kek" & "Praise Kek" then became new alt-right memes. I didn't know there was a fascist organization called "Kek", but it would be way too much of a coincidence to believe the organization's choice of name was a coincidence.
"redpilled" is also an alt-right meme for people who have broken out of the artificial politically correct reality programmed into their heads by the education system, TV and movies.

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[computational super]

Damn straight - this country was founded on the principle that anything I associate with anything I disagree with should be removed not just from my sight, but from everybody else's sight, too!

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[Anonymous Coward]

I've never called someone this, but I'm beginning to see why these groups use the word "cuck" so often... it perfectly describes someone like you.

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[mea_culpa]

Oh good grief. Who's the fascists here? Think about that for a bit and get back to me. I'm curious what you come up with.

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[Megol]

But is he alt-right?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Is this a joke I just didn't get?

Kek is just "lol" from the orcs in World of Warcraft. It's just a dumb 4chan joke. Doing something for top kek isn't some internal neo-nazi language. It's the new kid on the block way of saying you are doing something "for the lulz", or "just for laughs" or "insert your newfangled new kid slang here".

The fact that this stuff is taken so seriously is almost frightening in and of itself. When did our culture get so engrossed in this dumb garbage?

I don't remember apple banning the cockmongler and reporting on the mean antics of something awful goons. The world has gone mad.

Kids always try to find something that will bother the previous generation. It looks like this hyper-offensive bullshit is jut the new way to laugh at your parents. Do what adults are supposed to do. Ignore it.

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[Megol]

Those with fascist ideals are the fascists. It's that simple.

If you are trying to imply that Apple is fascist by removing something that people may find disturbing (even if I personally think people shouldn't be) then you are wrong and should be ashamed.

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[Anonymous Coward]

How do you get thru life being so damm stupid?

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[Anonymous Coward]

fuck you're ignorant

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[Highdude702]

so you mean go make a raspberry pi mobile phone?

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[Anonymous Coward]

just tired of dealing with flat-earth fucksticks like you morons

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[Anonymous Coward]

Neo-fash? Who's the one physically assaulting people over naughty words again?

It's nice to know that you side with the Antifa, which has attacked unconscious people and beaten people in sneak attacks with bike locks. But I guess that's what they teach at Berkley these days? Hate for anyone who doesn't ascribe to your norms? The Antifa are modern day brownshirts--people who physically assault those whose speech they disagree with--which is quite ironic given how they claim to be against fascism.

50 of your comrades are being arraigned in DC today, incidentally. Feel free to protest peacefully all you wish, but the minute you start assaulting people, please realize that we will unmask you and hunt you down, just as the Berkley professor who thought it okay to sneak attack people with bike locks did.

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[Anonymous Coward]

NO YOU ARE

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[Anonymous Coward]

top kek given

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[Anonymous Coward]

You're going to have to think harder than that.

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[Anonymous Coward]

As opposed to the alt-let which is "priase cuck"...

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[Anonymous Coward]

Can't have something that some people may find disturbing.

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[HornWumpus]

That moron wasn't a Berkeley prof. He was an unemployed former part time instructor at some brain dead Jr college.

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[lgw]

It has been co-oped to be the symbol for Kek, a neo-fash (New Fascists) group that is associated with the so-called "Men's Rights Movement" and "The Red Pill".

100% false. You just made that up. Complete BS.

Kekistan is a satire of identity politics. It mocks the white nationalists as much as anyone else. Kekistan was created (or at least popularized) by YouTuber Sargon of Akkad, whose politicla views are well know and not alt-right. (He has a track record of sending known alt-right people who follow him interracial porn until they unfollow).

Pepe is just a meme. There are Million s of Pepe images, with only about a half dozen base images that could be considered racist, such as Hitler Pepe. It was the most popular meme image of 2015 (according to Tumblr) so of course there a Hitler Pepe - there's an everything Pepe.

But now Pepe is a counter-culture Icon, ever since it was attacked by the Hillary campaign.

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[K. S. Kyosuke]

Fascists also co-opted Latin script; I hope you still remember your cuneiform!

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[BozoForPresident]

No, Pepe, you mustn't touch my apps! https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (When Your Smartphone is Salty AF (i9000) by Joy Camp)

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[KiloByte]

Those with fascist ideals are the fascists. It's that simple.

Yeah, let's find a definition: dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce. Of these, Apple doesn't wield a dictatorial power (yet?), but the rest are spot on. On the other hand, I don't see anything that would match that definition among people you want to apply that label to.

Racism != fascism, they're completely orthogonal. Of the three main regimes that were strongly fascist (Mussolini, Hitler and Putin), only the Nazis really cared about race.

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[HornWumpus]

Putin?

The third, undisputed, label self-applying, historic 'fascist' leader was Franco.

But you're basically right. Franco cared, a lot, about Catholicism though.

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[KiloByte]

Right, Franco is fourth, I've forgotten about him.

As for Putin, that's pretty ironic as "fascist" is his propaganda machine's favourite insult.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Does it matter? Sckle is right on that point.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Here, have a rope. Banning shit based on just your extremist views is not a good thing.

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[HornWumpus]

When you bring debatables into the discussion, it doesn't help.

Forth would be Edi Amine. He self applied the label IIRC.

By any reasonable definition of Fascist. Right now: Venezuela, Saudi, Pakistan, N. Korea. But all debateable.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The Hitler Pepes are also largely a troll mocking the left's straw manning of the right as fascists. The whole thing is pretty funny, especially when people take it seriously and over react.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Forth would be Edi Amine. He self applied the label IIRC.

I knew Anime was a mistake.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So you're for banning a cartoon character because of what groups adopted it? Are you also for jailing people for thinking differently too?

Of course! Bill Nye the Fascist Guy wants those with opposing views on climate charged criminally, possibly jailed. What next? ANTIFA and BLM deputized and given LE weapons/vehicles, and turned loose? They may as well in Berkeley, the cops just stand around and watch the chaos, violence, and destruction.

There's so much Progressive tolerance at UCB, soon there won't be much left besides burned-out buildings and blood stains on the streets and sidewalks.

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[HornWumpus]

Yep. The /bTards accidently raised an elder god. Saw it on youtube...

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[farrellj]

Foolish mortal. I am willing to bet that you have never even stood in front of an Egyptian altar, or honoured The Gods. As you have evoked from the Egyptian Pantheon, when you die, you will stand before Osiris, and He will weigh your heart....I would suggest that you might want to go on a severe diet before you die...but then again, why bother, I am sure that Thoth will not be recording that you entered the afterlife.
Pitiful mortal.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Never try to out mindfuck an Erisian. We've been doing it since the 1950s, and we learned our craft from the Dadaists, Beat Poets and Surrealists. Those who try to out mindfuck us tend to end up with golden apples shoved up their ass. And that's if it is a polite Erisian you are dealing with.

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[Anonymous Coward]

"only about a half dozen base images that could be considered racist"

hmm... methinks you underestimate too much

https://www.google.com/search?q=racist+pepe&rlz=1C1GIGM_enUS525US525&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE7oD-y7LUAhUF7mMKHcwyC5wQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=774&dpr=1.25

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+power+pepe&rlz=1C1GIGM_enUS525US525&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjA9byqzLLUAhVI2mMKHdsSDIIQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=774&dpr=1.25

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+power+pepe&rlz=1C1GIGM_enUS525US525&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjA9byqzLLUAhVI2mMKHdsSDIIQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=774&dpr=1.25#tbm=isch&q=kkk+pepe

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[Carewolf]

Hagenkreuz is German for Swastika, dumbass.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Kreuz means cross. Swastika in its full form means "conducive to well being or auspicious".
Now unless you can argue that Hagen refers to the above mentioned, you should shut the fuck up.
The very first paragraph of the wikipedia article is readable by anyone, except by the idiots it seems.
Go educate yourself on the whole article. You might learn some things.

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[Anonymous Coward]

/b/ aint doing shit these days but posting traps and other degenerate porn. /pol/ are the fags you're looking for.

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[Anonymous Coward]

do i get to keep the apples? i mean its gold after all.

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[Opportunist]

If that Fairphone didn't smell like it was more concerned with bleeding-heart do-goodie than actually being a phone that gives you the choice to have what you want to have, it would be a good start.

But yeah, maybe it's time to ponder the possibilities of a RasPi as a phone.

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[Anonymous Coward]

cartoon frogs are disturbing to people

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[Anonymous Coward]

I don't remember apple banning the cockmongler and reporting on the mean antics of something awful goons.

cockmonger memes didn't trip up a Democratic Party candidate

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[Highdude702]

go take a look on hackaday.io there is a few projects. one guy is actually pretty close to having a fully functioning phone. its not the smallest by any means but he built it himself.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Everyone calls it Swastika all over the world. Calling it anything else at this point reeks of fedora-wearing elitism. Obviously everyone knows that if we're talking Nazis, we're talking third Reich black-white-red hate symbol, not the sacred Buddhist one.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You do realize that's far from the only meaning and is being regularly used in Chinese and Japanese differently and independently from any Buddhist symbolism, right? Don't throw shit around if you don't get the whole picture.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I'm ashamed of the culture that can't take 5 minutes to google what kek means and where it came from.

I've seen plenty of actual Nazis use LOL, I guess LOL is an international fascist organization now.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Antifa has always been just a bizzaro world neonacists. As a far left guy, I've seen them vandalize personal property with stupid graffiti (not even graffiti as an art, just some moron writing "antifa" on peoples houses) and be so proud of themselves they plastered it all over the net, beat up people just because they don't like their ideology, antagonize and start fights in pubs, even use smoke bombs to attack "nazi" concerts (that weren't).

See, there's a worldwide network of far leftists that do good for the world, feed and house the homeless, financially support worthy causes from poverty charities to animal shelters, repair and clean up public places for free... But they are all overshadowed with these antifa idiots that just want to brawl. It's fucked.

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[HornWumpus]

/b/ is the population. I know they're not on 4chan anymore.

/pol/ is one of the places they like to troll.

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[Carewolf]

Are you retarded?

Things are called different things in different languages. The english word Swastika comes from Sanskrit, and refers to the shape and symbol that in German is called Hagenkreuz, from german for cross with hooks.

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[shutdown -p now]

It's a sad day when this sort of drivel is voted Informative on Slashdot.

Everyone who visited the alt-right communities on Reddit knows exactly what Kek and Pepe stand for. It's not like they're hiding it.

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[Anonymous Coward]

That's been the position of the religious right since I've been alive, yes.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You joke, but a lot of people act like this is true.

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[lgw]

Pepe was the most popular meme of 2015. Maybe some alt-right trolls use it too - wouldn't surprise me. Doesn't make it an alt-right meme.

"Kek" is just what the cool kids say instead of "lol". Seriously.

You need therapy for your paranoia. Not saying that to be a dick: when you see hate in words and symbols that are used by everyone for everything, it's a warning sign. Take that seriously; seek help.

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[Megol]

Putin isn't fascist. While you have somewhat better understanding than most people (in that fascism in itself doesn't imply racism) you still make the mistake of applying the term (on very loose grounds) against something you don't like.

Apple isn't fascist any more than a frog is and trying to paint them as fascist just make you look foolish. If you don't like their policies (I don't) then complain about them.

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[Megol]

Now I understand that you probably is mentally retarded (given that you can't even get an account on this site) but why is that funny? It's the symbol values that is upsetting - not the symbol in itself.

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[KiloByte]

Putin isn't fascist.

Nope, not only he is (fulfils every requirement of not only the definition of fascism I quoted, but also pretty much any of them that's not specifically tailored to regime X), but is also specially notable here as he calls everyone else a fascist (usually not directly, but it's his propaganda machine's favourite insult).

Unlike what certain parties tell you, if you're A but claim to be B, you don't stop being A nor start being B. Whether it's communism "not a religion", christianity "not a polytheism" (4 main gods, thousands of minor deities), a pre-op trans (real)man a "woman", campaign donations "not corruption", a $SCRIPTURE-thumper a "good person", etc, etc. Call a spade a spade.

And unlike some of those who are merely deluded, Putin is highly intelligent and does his thing fully consciously.

Le Peu?

[Anonymous Coward]

PU dude

Shadilay my brothers!

[Anonymous Coward]

ree

Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

.. Gets treated as a symbol of racist sacks of shit.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[darkain]

One way to think of this would be a new form of Denial of Service attack. Just take any icon you want, and create a fake hate group that idolizes it, and start reporting that icon to various organizations to have all content with that icon removed.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[sexconker]

Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.

4Chan tricked the media into thinking that was the case. Just like they tricked them into thinking the "OK" hand gesture was a symbol for white power.
Every instance on social media you see of Pepe the Frog or the "OK" hand gesture being used for such purposes is a farce. The media bought it whole hog, with zero investigation, zero confirmation, and zero thinking.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[rogoshen1]

Yep, they also convinced a few members of the media that creatine fueled elliot rogers' murder spree.. basically 4chan is a bit like the onion, entertaining but don't even for a second take it seriously.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Altus]

Yeah and when racist sacks of shit that don't bother with 4Chan see it reported and start doing it not ironically but rather with intent... well, at that point it is a symbol of racist shitbags

Even the creator of pepe has disavowed his own creation because its been co-opted.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

that sounds like something a racist would say

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[AmiMoJo]

People have been trying that forever, it rarely works. And Apple has always been conservative, not allowing stuff like the drone strike app on their platform for example.

The study is clickbait for conservatives who think they are oppressed for their views, but Apple censors everything the same way.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Calydor]

I have seen that happen with my country's flag.

No, really. I have literally seen people argue NOT to use the flag in a logo because it's heavily used by a political party considered far right/nationalist. So ... the most obvious symbol of a country should not be used in the logo for that country's branch of a global group. Because OMG RAYCYSTS!

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[AmiMoJo]

The OK symbol false flag failed because people quickly realised where it was coming for. Pepe was identified as an alt-right symbol because well established members of that movement adopted him.

Anyway, what does it matter where it comes from? Racists use Pepe regularly, they adopted him as use him to spread their messages. Doesn't matter who made the memes, the message and effect is the same.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not like this is new.

Most racial slurs start out as the way to refer to a racial group without invoking the curent slurs, but then the fact that the primary reason to need to refer to a racial group is to stereotype them they inevitably become slurs because the majority of the time people need to use them is when communicating something racist.

Same thing with "bad words: in general. What's offensive is the sentiment being expressed, not the word used to express it, so using a word that sin't in the banned list juts makes that word incrementally more "bad" as people catch on that you really mean to express the offensive sentiment.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[sexconker]

Yeah and when racist sacks of shit that don't bother with 4Chan see it reported and start doing it not ironically but rather with intent... well, at that point it is a symbol of racist shitbags

Point to some examples of this happening, please. Also quantify them - establish that they were numerous and pervasive, not incidental, and thus justified considering the image to be "a symbol of racist shitbags".

Even the creator of pepe has disavowed his own creation because its been co-opted.

Who the fuck cares what the creator does or says? You're still begging the question. You're claiming it was "co-opted" but have failed to show that it was in fact used by actual racists for racist purposes and have failed to show that any such usage rose to a level that would turn it into a symbol of hate.

It's a shitty looking cartoon frog. The only thing it's a symbol of is weak, shitty memes.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah yes the "Ha ha you idiot I was only pretending to be retarded" defense.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[HornWumpus]

'Alt-right' are _not_ generally racists. You start from bullshit, you end at bullshit.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[AvitarX]

Racists use letters too. Letters must be racist.

As the ADL says "The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted. "

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

So, $group isn't oppressed, because $oppressor oppresses all equally?
Where have I heard this before?

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

You are a sign of racism. I have taken your name and used it to post racist comments all over the Internet. Please delete your Slashdot account immediately as it is a sign of alt-right hate.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

shut up n1gger

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

You, um... by any chance, happen to live in Central Europe, during the 1930's while a certain chancellor with a mustache held office?

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[AmiMoJo]

Yeah yeah. Groups other than Nazis use swastikas, but most people aren't dumb enough to think that means swastikas aren't strongly associated with the Third Reich.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Ban the symbol all you want, it won't change the core values it stands for. I can rename hate to love but in the end of the day people arnt going to start loving each other because of it. People exist in the world with contrary opinions than your own and they always will. I'd rather be able to identify those groups I disagree with so I could better effect change within them.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[The Grim Reefer]

If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.

Change is about all you will have left to your name if you were to try it. Disney has a bit more money and a slightly larger legal team than the creator of Pepe the Frog.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not "White Power" it's "White Pride" and you have to do it with the right hand, so the person looking at it sees the WP.

OK

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Powercntrl]

Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.

You didn't even have to look hard to see plenty of asshole Trump supporters sporting the frog emoji (implied to be Pepe) in their username. This shit might've spawned from the filthy bowels of 4Chan as a joke, but Dogecoin started as a joke too and as of right now has a $384,751,531 market cap. Once people start taking a joke seriously, it ceases to be a joke.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

4chan is for plebs, the real Pepe Nazis and Kekistani nationalists are on 8chan.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Moheeheeko]

Shit Trump getting elected was just one giant /pol/ trollfest. Even /pol/ cant believe that Trump got elected.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

I have seen that happen with my country's flag.

Apparently muslims don't like the Saudi flag on soccer balls:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sou...

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Calydor]

Well, I live there NOW, actually, which is why you'll see me comment a lot on the state of internet connectivity in Germany, but I'm referring to my birth country, Denmark. Which incidentally has one of the oldest (if not the oldest, period) flags in the world.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[bradley13]

Alt-right is not racist, get a clue.

The KKK probably mostly votes Republican, but most Republicans are not members of the KKK. Same with the alt-right.

The alt-right, in simplest terms, says: multiculturalism doesn't actually work. Mixing cultures leads to conflict. Furthermore they believe specifically that Western culture is threatened by multiculturalism, because too many migrants from non-western cultures are being accepted, and failing to integrate.

There's nothing particularly racist about that. There may well be something racist in the progressive position that everyone except westerners should strive to preserve their culture.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[computational super]

Actually the latest white power symbol is a white image of an apple with a bite taken out of it, which symbolizes the superior white race being chosen by God to cleanse the earth after Adam and Eve took a bite of the poisoned apple in the garden of Eden.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Baloroth]

Actually, if you google "mickey mouse nazi" or similar, you pretty much see... well, more or less what you'd expect to see: tons of mickey mouse in SS uniforms and the like. In fact, if you compare "mickey mouse nazi" to "pepe nazi", you get almost the same amount of hits (at least, I do, YMMV). Because that's how the Internet works. However, it's not politically convenient for anyone to try associating Mickey Mouse with fascism, so no one cares.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[monkease]

4chan also trolled themselves into becoming racist sacks of shit.

1. "hue hue it's so funny to say such fucked up shit kek"

2. "hue hue it's a big part of my identity to be the dude who don't even care about saying such fucked up shit kek"

3. "hue hue i have spent literally thousands of hours this year posting such fucked up shit kek kek kek"

4. "hue hue i've alienated everyone i know in real life and all my friends are internet strangers who all like to do little else but post such fucked up shit kekekekekek"

5. "now i'm on /pol/"

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't forget milk. Milk is a sign of alt-right nazi misogynist homophobic racist fat shaming Islamophobic presence in the drinker.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Archangel Michael]

The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats. The greatest hate group in America continues to be the Democrat Party, they just haven't gotten around to banning themselves.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

This is what racist apologists actually believe.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

There's no excuse for associating the Swastika with the Third Reich instead of bringing back the positive connotation of Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto, all others, after you have learned better about its history and etymology.
Associating a symbol for negatives is pretty much the mindset of racism (associating blacks pervasively for negative acts from their collective's members), with equal effect of a lowered IQ among society.
The only thing we got out of this discussion is that you think like a racist with the same flawed logic.
This needs to change.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

White power manchildren aren't racist? That's a new one

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[taustin]

"Apple IPhones, the official phone of the KKK."

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow, interesting. In those cultures, touching something with your foot is kind of like shitting on it. Posting as AC so my family doesn't get chopped up by machetes.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[KGIII]

You know you're racist, right?

I'm a pretty big fan of mathematics. I am pretty fan of the scientific method, as well.

You can Google the tests. You can take the tests. I'm willing to bet that the tests will confirm you're racist. The vast majority of us are. I forget the exact numbers but pretty much every human on the planet is racist. You don't even have to take the test in a controlled environment. You can even try to cheat, because it takes into account variations in response time.

Pretty much every person is racist. You might go so far as to suggest it is an inherent trait.

Do try to not read into my comment more than I have written.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, thank you finally! I read 4chan (bad habit) and have seen thousands of Pepes. The reference is 100% always about feelings, laziness or drugs. I see a lot of racist posts but had never seen a Pepe racist post. So I really wondered where all of this came from...

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

There's one problem with this storyline: 4channers are still responsible for their words and actions. "I'm kidding/trolling" is a possible explanation for your *motiviation*, but it doesn't remove your responsibility for your words.

Can't shake the devil's hand and say you were only kidding.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Highdude702]

You know, for being a site full of "smart" people. there sure are a lot of people with either no brains or their head so far up their ass you cant tell the difference.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[AmiMoJo]

Jokes on you Anonymous Coward, people have been trashing your name for years!

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[HornWumpus]

Black 'white power manchildren'?

Asian 'white power manchildren'?

Mexican 'white power manchildren'?

All you've got is worn out overused insults.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[moeinvt]

Why bother bradley? If you say any of those things about multiculturalism, immigration or preserving Western culture, you're going to be called a "racist" anyway. And who gives a shit? It's just a word.

People crying "Racism!" are only trying to shut you up and divert the argument. Don't even waste your time with them. As soon as you start arguing about who is & isn't "racist" or why certain ideas might or might not be "racism", you're playing their game. Rather than discussing ideas, you're suddenly on the defensive trying to explain why those ideas are not "racist". Screw that. You have a right to your opinions, and if someone else wants to call it "Racism!" so be it. Just accept the label and it loses its power.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry, Archangel Michael, but your nostalgic dive into history neglects to mention that today is...2017, long past the days of yore you fondly remember and nope, it was nothing to do with the Media, it was Goldwater and Reagan, who decided that courting the Strom Thurmonds of the world was the thing to do. They chose to blow their dogwhistles, and the puppies came in a hurry. Pissing on the floor is exactly what you should have expected from them.

It's a strange thing, your devotion to the party that would spit on Lincoln if he gave a speech today, it's like you really want to embrace the deepest levels of hypocrisy.

Oh wait, no, you ARE a modern-day Republican. That IS what you want in your heart.

Deep, so deep in it, you can't even own up to your love for all things rotten and despicable about the party you adore.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Highdude702]

so anybody that supports trump is a racist?

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

This viewpoint is similar to the Christian "Everyone has sinned" baloney. It's there to establish a feeling of guilt. It serves no positive purpose in society.

So all you're asserting here is "You're racist. Go take the (unnamed) test and find out. You'll see."

I assume you wanted to say something with a little more substance than that.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[OYAHHH]

> it was Goldwater and Reagan, who decided that courting the Strom Thurmonds of the world

Oh puhlease, give me a break. And next you're going to tell me that Hillary Clinton swapping spit with Robert Byrd in the front of cameras was all a figment of my imagination....

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[KGIII]

The Harvard AIT test is a good example. Go take it and, again, I did advise you not read more into what I said than I had written. I realize that's difficult for some folks, but try to hold yourself to a higher standard - if you can.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't hate, rehabilitate.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Altus]

Do try to not read into my comment more than I have written.

Thats not hard because you haven't said much of anything that actually adds to the conversation.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[lgw]

I haven't seen much moaning about Apple in the comments for this story. Nothing surprising in Apple floating with every moral panic, or rumor of a moral panic.It's the product they sell, and apparently people like it. Fair enough.

The annoying bit is that one story in the Daily Beast, based on sources that were channers and (naturally) trolled the reporter about Pepe being an alt-right symbol, was all it took for people to believe that nonsense. (The bit where the Hillary campaign called Pepe a hate symbol quoted directly from the Daily Beast story). Astonishing how little critical thinking ability, how little willingness to do 2 minutes of research, people have.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[KGIII]

That is correct. My comment is only on the usage of the term "racist." It's not even remotely important.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

You know you could view it like that: Some people developed all these trolling skills starting 2004 on 4chan or even before then on slashdot and nntp, and now they are just having some fun with all the noobs that think they know how the internet works. Look at the news, everything you can read there is ridiculously grotesque and funny, it's like a fully armed army soldier saying "Step aside, serious business!" to a cute kitten passing by in front of him.

I'm convinced though, meme magic will eventually make people realize that they are taking some things just a little bit too seriously. And if it doesn't, well at least we had a good laugh.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Altus]

What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.

What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?

Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Posting as AC so my family doesn't get chopped up by machetes.

Wait, who gave the Amish machetes? Damned violent fundamentalist Christians!

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[ilsaloving]

The problem is that enough people now believe that Pepe is now a symbol of white supremacists, that it might as well be. Hell, even the original creator of Pepe believes it to the point where he gave up on the character.

Lets face it... Pepe is now a symbol of hate. Whether it originated as a prank or not is irrelevant.

The swastika was a good luck symbol before the Nazis used it. Now you can get arrested in some parts of the world if you use it anywhere.

And now Pepe is receiving the same treatment. It's unfortunate, but there it is.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[HornWumpus]

It's a wonderfully circular set of definitions.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

This viewpoint is similar to the Christian "Everyone has sinned" baloney. It's there to establish a feeling of guilt. It serves no positive purpose in society.

I wouldn't say it serves NO positive purpose. It's supposed to burst the bubble of unearned pride (re: arrogance) one can get. Unfortunately, many have taken that and turned it into false humility.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

,'Alt-right' are _not_ generally racists

Then why do they associate themselves with Richard Spencer's Alt-Right designation? He is absolutely a racist shitbag, and he he created the label. Why associate with that nonsense if it's not what you believe?

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

People exist in the world with contrary opinions than your own and they always will.

We are supremely confident in the correctness of our beliefs. That's why it's necessary to disenfranchise, silence/censor, and/or kill those who disagree with us. The ends justify the means.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

The alt-right, in simplest terms, says: multiculturalism doesn't actually work. Mixing cultures leads to conflict. Furthermore they believe specifically that Western culture is threatened by multiculturalism, because too many migrants from non-western cultures are being accepted, and failing to integrate.

"We're not racist, we just don't believe in mixing of the races. But instead of wearing white hoods and outright calling ourselves white nationalists, by God, we're going to be a little fancy about it!"

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats

The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Google "pepe the frog swastika"

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

so anybody that supports trump is a racist?

Not automatically racist, but It's a fair assumption to start with.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[HornWumpus]

The group grew because their opposition were a bunch of neo-Stalinists using violence.

So now anybody who opposes violent commie children is an automatic 'racist'...racist blacks, mexicans, gays etc.

You can't be willing to kick the shit out of a few actual fascists without being labeled 'alt-right'.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[William Baric]

Being against multiculturalism is not about race, it's about being against mixing different cultures and different ways of life within the same society. Multiculturalism leads to communitarianism, even if people are of the same race, and communitarianism leads to the destruction of social cohesion, which leads to hatred and violence. Multiculturalism is extremely destructive to societies.

And no, someone's race does not define his culture or his religion. Associating a culture to a specific race is racism. For example, anyone who thinks "cultural appropriation" is a thing, is someone who is profoundly racist.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh puhlease, give me a break.

From what? Reality? I'm pretty sure you're already there. Can you see Archangel Michael from where you sit in your cubicle? (Assuming he's not in the mirror) If so, then you have broken from reality. No thanks necessary, you did it yourself.

Make sure to pick up your daily nickel for dancing like a puppet.

And next you're going to tell me that Hillary Clinton swapping spit with Robert Byrd in the front of cameras was all a figment of my imagination....

Yeah, that's a pet favorite of Archangel Michael's too. He swoons over that, but never dares to mention Strom Thurmond, or if we're going to stick with the living, Richard Shelby, Rick Perry, or Kim Davis.

And that's before you embraced the birther-in-chief. How much time have you spent with your lips firmly adhered to his glistening buttocks?

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, I've seen this making the rounds on some of the less savory 'extremist' sites. Men's Right's activists, usually with a neo-right, religious bent. Trump supporters, of course. The apple with the bite symbolizes the original sin, women's weakness, that caused the fall. Crazy stuff.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Culture is not a racial attribute. Racist to think it is.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure man, you're just purporting an inability to handle people of a different culture is somehow meaningfully distinct from racism in a way that doesn't raise flags of intolerance on your own part.

What actually leads to sectarian hatred and violence is that very same intolerance, and it has demonstrated throughout history the destructive societies it creates, whether in the Mid-East, Europe, the Americas, Eastern Asia, Africa, Australia, or the Pacific.

You don't want to deal with that though.

Of course, the fact that people do associate race with certain qualities and characteristics, including ones that are merely cultural, is yet another problem you try to avoid.

You'd much rather just declare other people to be "racist" as part of your own vacuous argument.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Mashiki]

The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.

Which of course really explains why democrats continue to push segregation, and identity politicos are core party values right?

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Mashiki]

AKA you're showing the world you're actual a bigot, and they're all laughing at you.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Mashiki]

What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.

He can wear whatever he wants. But if you want to use that line of reasoning, liberals and progressives are being very well represented by the events at evergreen college and the riots at Berkeley.

What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?
You mean besides the people that use them in order to piss you off so you become a foaming mouth breather who's batshit insane? Seems to be working.

Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags?

They're not, they're trolling you. And it's why Trump is going to win a second term, the left have done more in the last 6mo drive people fro the left to center and center-right then anything else could have. I personally can't wait to see where it ends up. But considering the left already broke down into violence? I'm guessing that'll be their next attempt again.

Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Mashiki]

Don't worry. I'm sure you can tell us now why Laci Green is a gender traitor and why she needs to be purged from the annal of feminist literature.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

There are quite a few openly racist Disney cartoons from the 40s too. Those can be conveniently ignored until it's politically convenient, just like the 1924 Democratic Convention.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[lucm]

There are days where browsing at -1 and reading the weird gay porn comments is the best thing to do on Slashdot. Some of those underground gay porn writers are pretty good.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Not interesting, Kekistan is not a country you neckbeard basement dwelling incel motherfucker.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

As evidenced by pro-trump rallies, you can't even be in the alt right unless you're a racist. The hazing going on is unreal, some groups going as far as sodomizing each other to prove they aren't gay. There's no expectation to be made at those "freedom of speech" rallies where all they do is help the police arrest protesters.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean the guy that had disavowed the Klan and apologized for his membership... 30 odd years before that picture?

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

> Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.

You are correct, BLM never liked Pepe.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

>DF kan godt lide Dannebrog
>venstreorienterede: uuuh, nationalisme er farligt, flag=racisme
Jeg hader Enhedslisten og de andre tosser.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you genuinely trying to say that anti-fascist groups came after alt-right before people understood them to be fascists?

Your chronology is fucked.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[poity]

Who is the final authority on what qualifies? You say "enough people", but it seems a HUGE number of people isn't enough since the millions of people across the world who see the hammer & sickle as a symbol of hate have yet had their feelings acknowledged. Does it require something else? Perhaps those millions don't have the correct political alignment... maybe that's it.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Except the the social cancer types also went full cringe with it. Autism Frog has become the new Guy Fawkes mask.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Highdude702]

lol I can never make it more than a few lines into those and it feels like my brain is melting. so I skip over and look for the stupidity(dont have to look too far) which is probably the main reason I return to the site. I love a good laugh.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[c6gunner]

What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.

He was also wearing a Hugo Boss suit. Hugo Boss is now a symbol of white supremacy!

What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?

Don't forget the Facebook logo on those pages. OMG Facebook is a symbol of white supremacy!

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

If you haven't noticed - that's the LEFT at the moment. They're trying to get days where whites can't turn up to universities.

Righties nowadays don't care what colour you are, as long as you don't explode and kill some civilians.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, identity politics are core party values for Republicans. They're pretty desperate when it comes to creating their identity as "tough, strong, and TRUE AMERICANS" with a side of fiscal responsibility and being the only rational logical people around. It's part of their portrayal.

Of course, they have a whiny bunch of shits who can't even stand to be honest for five minutes, a tendency to thuggery, and severe problems with their racial gerrymandering, but hey, let's not forget who despises the cities, who tries to make out that winning lots of counties (sometimes by tiny margins) is somehow a sign of a landslide, who tries to write a healthcare bill in secret, and who find illegal voters in their own houses.

Sorry, Mashiki, you're just another pathetic lying right-winger yourself. It is the way of things.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[HornWumpus]

The fascist 'anti-fascist' groups started rioting after the election. Only fools don't understand them to be fascists.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean his comment challenged your political convictions and triggered you? Poor snowflake...

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

that's because /pol thinks they are extra clever. In reality they're quite typical - it should have been obvious that trump would win - like the cowboy presiden't, black president etc.

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny, people used to say such things about the Irish, and the Chinese, and probably every other immigrant group that ever came to the US. This one time, we even rounded up all the Japanese immigrants and put them into camps.

People with different cultures get along just fine if they actually try. The problem is that we have one group of nutters who doesn't want to try, and another group of nutters uses that as an excuse not to try. Both groups have the same mindset: you are different, therefore your existence is wrong. The progressive position is that we should try to get along, try to understand each other, and mutually grow and adapt, and that one group of nutters doesn't define an entire people. It just looks like oppression to you because you are in one of those groups and desperately want the world to justify your obvious intolerance.

Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[ilsaloving]

Why does there need to be a "final authority"? The anti-defamation league has declared it a hate symbol. Apple has now blocked it as inappropriate. There are plenty of more examples that can be found with a simple google search. To me, that means enough people believe it that that belief is causing a tangible impact in the world.

If you're expecting me to give an explicit quantity that defines "enough", you're missing my point and I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish.

"Enough" people believe that vaccines cause autism or a full of toxins or whatever bullshit, to be causing localized epidemics of diseases that had been effectively eradicated. Why don't you ask a parent whose child became encephalitic by measles, how many anti-vaxxers are "enough"?

Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit

[Rakarra]

When you happen to be accepting of most white cultures, but non-white cultures, well that's multiculturalism, and that's bad. How convenient. No, of course that's not RACIST, it's just against cultures that can't possibly exist together.

It's racist when you say that white and non-white cultures can't exist in harmony together, but you know, it's FANCY racism, gussied up a little more than the Klan was willing to do it.

Whites want affirmative action

[Anonymous Coward]

Whites, no longer competitive with curry eating Hindus who never even saw a computer before landing in the US on their H1B visa, have resorted to asking government to block companies from hiring their choice of worker. There are no whites willing to do easy computer jobs for $40K to $60K (H1B salary), however they are willing to work in fast food and retail for $20K to $30K. Nobody cares about fast food workers and he fact they are forced to work for the sub human wage of $30K while a monkey sitting at a computer expects $80K starting.

Re:Whites want affirmative action

[Anonymous Coward]

I started at 38k. Unless you are in Seattle, Silicon Valley, or NYC you aren't going to get remotely 80k starting.

trolling libtards

[Tailhook]

Valley Values triggered and out comes the ban hammer...

"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

Re:trolling libtards

[DRJlaw]

Valley Values triggered and out comes the ban hammer...

Whereas conservative values concerning things like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright seemingly evaporate the moment that someone appropriates Pepe for conservative lulz.

Did Matt Furie author the app, or license it to the app? I doubt it, because Pepe is dead.

Re:trolling libtards

[Opportunist]

And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.

Yes, that is actually a choice you have.

Re:trolling libtards

[thegarbz]

"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

Of course they can. And we can mock them at every opportunity for doing so.

Re:trolling libtards

[bill_mcgonigle]

"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

It's all well and good until something you think isn't hate speech becomes Apple hate speech.

Or the altcoin you like to use suddenly becomes "against the terms of service". Then so much for your phone investment.

Really, Apple is so filthy rich and they keep getting richer by selling average people a bland comfort bubble, that they should just offer to buy back phones from people who complain about the apps they pull. It would be a trivial slice of their userbase and they could resell the phones as refurbs anyway.

I do think they are doing security right, but I can't even consider using an Apple phone, because I can't have one that may have features I depend on be taken away retroactively. So far, Android is a safe choice for predictability, even if the security is kind of iffy for the non-diligent user.

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.

Nah, you should get government to force Apple to serve you a Pepe app the same way they forced that bakery to serve a gay wedding cake.

I'm not saying which position is correct on either of those issues. I'm just saying people should be consistent across both of them.

Either a business can refuse to sell both those things to anyone or everyone as they please, or the government can compel a business to sell those things if/when somebody asks for them.

Re:trolling libtards

[AmiMoJo]

On the one hand, it's all a 4chan con, Pepe isn't really loved by the alt-right... But when the author kills him off, we are gonna go ape-shit and he can't be killed because he's ours now!

Re:trolling libtards

[AmiMoJo]

Apple baned porn from its app store. People who prefer a porn free platform, perhaps because they have children, might appreciate that.

This does not affect your freedom of speech. The app store is not your platform, and the are plenty of other public spaces to post your Pepe memes. You don't have a right to be on every platform. You don't have a right to force Apple to publish your speech.

Re:trolling libtards

[HornWumpus]

Did he bother trademarking it?

He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.

Re:trolling libtards

[Powercntrl]

"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

They can do whatever they want until market forces convince them otherwise. You can bitch, whine, moan and complain about their app store polices, their glued-together fabrication process, and their locked-down mobile OS, but as long as the masses keep lining up to buy their new shinies every year - Apple doesn't care.

Let's also be realistic here: How many people are actually going to miss this shitty little "racist" cartoon frog game? You can't even find a really good quality copy of Song of the South on public torrent trackers, and that's something which is relatively well known (Disney even has a damn water ride based on it!), and not even really all that racist.

Re:trolling libtards

[computational super]

Apple is a private company and can do what they want

But Fox News can't, remember.

Re: trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't there an oven somewhere you belong in?

Re:trolling libtards

[Rockoon]

Lets be honest tho... the only reason that shopkeeper had to make a wedding cake for someone when they didnt want to.. is because the last thing that actually happens when the left plays identity politics... is liberty.

Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

If Apple we're selling a superior product, the market would ensure the iPhone's demise or decline. That the iPhone is popular is not because it is a "bland comfort bubble;" it's because no competitor can offer something significantly better. IMO, as a privacy- and security-conscious consumer who still wants a relatively non-cumbersome user experience, there is precisely zero competition to the iPhone. But, sure, I'm just an average dude who wants a comfort bubble. My crazy ass hears that all the time in real life.

Re:trolling libtards

[KiloByte]

like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright

You do realize you just contradicted yourself? Either you hold actual property dear, or believe in imaginary one. Putting restrictions on what I can do on hardware I supposedly own deprives me of a good part of that possession's value.

Re: trolling libtards

[KGIII]

Heh... Those men made of straw were pretty easy to defeat.

Well, unless you threaded your comment in the wrong spot.

Re:trolling libtards

[HornWumpus]

Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?

Nobody is that old and still breathing.

Re:trolling libtards

[OYAHHH]

> You don't have a right to be on every platform. You don't have a right to force Apple to publish your speech.

Tell that to the bakers forced by the government to bake for LGBT whatevers.

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

Copyright is sufficient. Trademarks deal with how you identify yourself as a commercial entity. The concept of derivative works is protected under copyright law. And copyright is automatic.

Re:trolling libtards

[Verdatum]

You can draw pepe's on your hardware all you want. Copyright law says that unlicensed derivative works can't be _sold_ unless they fall within fair-use, and this doesn't.

Re:trolling libtards

[HornWumpus]

Pepe is a pretty generic frog. Green, two eyes, four limbs. If another frog is a violation of copyright, then Pepe is as well, he wasn't first.

You can draw a mouse named mickey under copyright law, but you'll get killed by trademarks.

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

One is a public accommodation refusing service in a discriminatory manor based on sexual orientation. The other is a storefront refusing to participate in marketing an unlicensed derivative work. They are not the same.

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

No you can't, that's hate speech! Raaaaah!!! Burn all the frogs! I hate frogs now!

Re:trolling libtards

[Rakarra]

Did he bother trademarking it?

He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.

Even if he trademarked it, what's he going to do? These aren't major companies going out appropriating Pepe the Frog, it's many individuals. He could sue one dude, but so what? He'll be out a lot of money and there 499,999 other dudes in line to be sued. Trademark has to be defended, and if you can't defend it, people can still run roughshod over it. His 'pepe the frog is dead' thing was an admission that there's really nothing he can do about, so he's washing his hands of his involvement.

Re:trolling libtards

[Anonymous Coward]

That's how you justify it. It's just barely reasonable enough on the surface that you can continue to be proud of your own support of rights violations while condemning the very similar actions of the 'enemy'.

Re:trolling libtards

[lucm]

Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?

You mean when they were fighting the Republicans and trying to start a new country so they could keep their slaves?

Re:trolling libtards

[Opportunist]

Personally, I think it was a wrong decision to force any private company to do something like that. What they should enforce is priests perform gay weddings. If you take government money, you agree to do government's bidding.

Re:trolling libtards

[Rockoon]

No those were Democrats, not Liberals.

Objectionable Content?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's a cartoon frog, for chrissake. Did the app portray Pepe engaging in a sinful sex act or sumpthin? Jeezus.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[PopeRatzo]

It's a cartoon frog, for chrissake.

It's a cartoon frog whose copyright is owned by its creator. If he doesn't want it used in an app, it doesn't get used.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[HornWumpus]

You don't understand the difference between copyright and trademark, or you're playing stupid to make a point.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[Rockoon]

Why cant it be both?

Re:Objectionable Content?

[spire3661]

Copyright is NOT supposed to be used to remove works from the public. It is exactly opposite of its express purpose, to feed the Public Domain. Attempting to deny the public access to the works should constitute a breach of contract and revocation of copyright, reverting hte work to eth Publi Domain where it rightfully belongs. TL:DR - Copyright is a social bargain, creators should never be allowed to remove works, that breaks tho social contract, and all rights should be voided.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[Verdatum]

As I mentioned in response to another one of your comments, no, you are mistaken. Derivative works are in the realm of copyright law, not trademark law. You can't copy a person's character and write stories about their further adventures and sell those stories. You can't draw a green frog that looks just like pepe, and name him pepe and sell him as an app. No trademark is needed for this protection. It is automatic.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[PopeRatzo]

You don't understand the difference between copyright and trademark, or you're playing stupid to make a point.

Pepe is covered by both copyright and trademark. The first is automatic and requires no application and the second requires an application.

Either one is enough to prevent anyone from using Pepe in an app without permission.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[PopeRatzo]

Copyright is NOT supposed to be used to remove works from the public. It is exactly opposite of its express purpose, to feed the Public Domain.

When Pepe become public domain, then it can be used for an app. But beware, there is also trademark involved. Trademarks do not become public domain.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[spire3661]

I think that trademarks need to be revisited. Its too much art to be denied the public domain. There should be an expiration for it, because it creates ugly scenarios where what the Public Domain gained is fuzzy at best. Mickey Mouse should be Public Domain in his entirety now. There is no public benefit to allowing eternal trademark.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[PopeRatzo]

I think that trademarks need to be revisited. Its too much art to be denied the public domain.

So, you believe that after a certain amount of time, Apple's trademark should be free for use by any computer manufacturer?

Re:Objectionable Content?

[spire3661]

I think that companies rebrand all the time when it suits them, i dont see a problem forcing a re-brand after a set time to feed the Public Domain. I dont think common words like Apple or Windows should be allowed to be trademarked at all.

Re:Objectionable Content?

[Anonymous Coward]

Copyright is NOT supposed to be used to remove works from the public. It is exactly opposite of its express purpose, to feed the Public Domain.

Wow, the alt-right using alternative facts about copyright - who would have thought.

Misread

[Anonymous Coward]

I first read this as peepee banned. I thought that was odd considering the popularity of the doodoo emoji.

Re:Misread

[PopeRatzo]

I first read this as peepee banned.

Except in Russian hotels.

Re:Misread

[Anonymous Coward]

I first read this as peepee banned.

Except in Russian hotels.

I misread it as "Pope is banned"

Re: Misread

[Anonymous Coward]

That would be a good start.

"But goy, I'm the Pope I tells ya!"

But Pepe is dead!

[fredrated]

How could he even go to the Apple App Store?

Re:But Pepe is dead!

[Anonymous Coward]

Good point.
Zombie, clone, imposter, or twin, we need to find the real identity of this not-Pepe!

Re:But Pepe is dead!

[Anonymous Coward]

It's 'Jesus-Pepe'. He is risen!

Time to dump my iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

You can get Pepe Scream on Google Play. I guess Google's not worried about offending snowflakes.

Re:Time to dump my iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

>Google not worried about offending snowflakes

tell that to all the youtube channels that got ads pulled over "hate speech" recently, they're in full crackdown mode

oh and if google doesn't care why did they drop 8chan from search results, eh?

Remember, Tim Cook is on Trump's tech advisory panel, while Eric Schmidt and Google worked for the Clinton campaign.

like the Confederate flag?

[liquid_schwartz]

Apple likes to ban things and hasn't figured out that when the country is fairly evenly split no matter what side you take you lose customers. They quickly reversed course last time after the hysteria over confederate flags. Target is suffering from this as we speak but will likely not change course having painted themselves into a corner.

Citations:

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2... http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/2...

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Opportunist]

Target should have known their target audience better. When your only sales argument is your low, low price, your target audience is probably not the hipster crowd.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

How about if some Alt-right types "associate" with Apple, maybe by using their fruit-minus-a-bite logo? Talk about a vicious circle ... ;-}

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Powercntrl]

Target is suffering from this as we speak but will likely not change course having painted themselves into a corner.

People who are boycotting Target over a fucking bathroom issue are the ones who are the real oversensitive snowflakes. It's also entirely possible that things have just been sucking lately for retail stores in general, and Target is feeling the squeeze. Hhgregg just went under, and I doubt bathrooms had anything to do with it.

It's kinda like how the anti-Seaworld activists claimed Blackfish was causing a huge drop in attendance - coincidentally, right about the same time Universal Resort and Disney World opened some major new attractions. Nope, that probably had nothing to do with it - it had to be the protesters. Uh-huh.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/retail-sales-post-worst-two-month-stretch-in-two-year-2017-04-14

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

Target should have known their target audience better. When your only sales argument is your low, low price, your target audience is probably not the hipster crowd.

That isn't Target's audience, you're thinking of Wal-Mart, who coincidentally has dropped pretty much all of the Duck Dynasty crap, doesn't cover itself with Confederate Flags, and is busy making their workers deliver packages! Frankly, Trump is honored to shop there, and suggests buying all your quality merchandise from them.

Target, however, markets itself as a source faux fine goods. With a Trump Presidency, everybody is too poor to afford that, so they're suffering from their refusal to portray themselves as a coal mine. If only they'd play along and pretend, they'd get tons of handout money just like the Saudis.

But hey, it's better than K-mart, which is doing so badly their Blue-light special is being downgraded to a red LED. Sears, of course, being a company that's not identified as part of America, they're pretty much DOOMED!

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[computational super]

boycotting Target over a bathroom issue

Actually if all the men who were boycotting Target over the men in the women's bathroom issue would just go to Target and use the women's bathroom every time they had to go, Target would change its policy in a BIG hurry.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

boycotting Target over a bathroom issue

Actually if all the men who were boycotting Target over the men in the women's bathroom issue would just go to Target and use the women's bathroom every time they had to go, Target would change its policy in a BIG hurry.

No, it would only work if the coordinate an even split between the bathrooms. If they all use the women's room women will just use the men's room if they care about peeing in a room that doesn't contain men.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[HornWumpus]

Assuming you're a man, walk into a dozen ladies rooms and tell us how it goes. Best if they're someplace where the bathrooms are busy. A bar, not Target.

Bonus if you walk into the ladies room at a tittie bar.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

As someone who's not afraid to hop in the women's bathroom when circumstances leave me no other choice, I can confirm it's usually much nicer all around. I encourage people to do it when possible.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

I'll gladly wipe my ass with the confederate flag. That is all it is good for.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Powercntrl]

Actually if all the men who were boycotting Target over the men in the women's bathroom issue would just go to Target and use the women's bathroom every time they had to go, Target would change its policy in a BIG hurry.

Target has loss prevention cameras all over the store, so they probably have a pretty good idea how much "traffic" the restrooms get. I'm sure if this was a real issue, the cameras wouldn't lie. This is just another case where some people look at a mole hill and see a mountain.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think they were being fairly targeted by the public. As long as you can stand up and target a urinal, you shouldn't be using the women's bathroom.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

We're talking about Target's "use whichever bathroom you're presenting as" policy here though, right?

If someone who's presenting as female - someone who looks like a woman, acts like a woman, dresses like a woman, talks like a woman - goes into a dozen women's bathrooms, then... it'll probably go pretty well. Probably better than if they tried to go into the men's bathroom.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[HornWumpus]

No trannys achieve that though. They look like dudes in a wig that need a shave.

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

The ones you notice, perhaps. What about the ones you don't notice?

Re:like the Confederate flag?

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple likes to ban things and hasn't figured out that when the country is fairly evenly split no matter what side you take you lose customers.

Fun fact: the alt-right loves to claim Apple banned their apps, even though they didn't - the same board once claimed Apple had banned the Breitbard app. Which of course was an alternative fact.

Pepe is copyrighted content

[Anonymous Coward]

Pepe is not public domain, and since the creator of Pepe has "killed him off" I don't see how this would have been allowed on intellectual property grounds anyways. Besides Apple knows all the autistic neckbeard and nazi larpers use Android and Windows phones anyways.

Congratulation, you're an idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

And mostly likely a sexist-bigoted-racist hiding behind your own extreme puritan ignorance.

Shhh It's okay dear.

[thegarbz]

Tim will keep you safe. No one will hurt your feelings here.

Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[MSTCrow5429]

Pepe is associated with a troll who convinced out-of-touch leftists that he was actually a symbol of the Alt-Right, then everyone else trolled the leftists with Pepe because they never wised up and it was hilarious to expose them as clueless. Also, a very confused Hillary Clinton campaign.

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Ksevio]

... And then was actually used by alt-right in racist memes. The problem with satire is when the crazy people start to take it seriously

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah like when Obama said he would give us change and we actually took it seriously!

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

"give us change"

What do you expect, a penny for your thoughts??

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

If you believed what a politician promised you just because he was the corporate shill wearing your team's letter, you deserve your remorse.

Re:Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you seriously claiming Richard Spencer is not "alt-right"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh1dhur4aI

Sounds like the only person "out-of-touch" is you

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[taustin]

Around here, a penny is all most thoughts are worth.

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

That would be over paying!

Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right

[Anonymous Coward]

The crazy people taking it seriously aren't the ones making and sharing the "racist memes".

Maybe I need new glasses

[Anonymous Coward]

I read the headline as "Pope Is Banned from From the Apple App Store."

Why I'll never own an iPhone

[WaffleMonster]

Censorship is unacceptable.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

i'll never own them because they're overpriced plastic crap popular with some of the most braindead vapid shallow people ever.

but to each their own.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

Indeed.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

Mod to 11

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, I guess we have two good reasons to avoid Apple.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[tgv]

You should tell that to The Donald's followers on the various forums. They ban everyone who dares make even the slightest critical remark.

This isn't even censorship: the game did not express any idea or thought.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

The Donald is a closed fan club. You'd be disallowed to cause trouble in a Hillary fan club too.

But banning a 'frog' app from the store, because it annoys people who voted Hillary, who would never download it anyway? That's crazy.

Also, keep reddit out of this. I'm hoping the paid shills from mediamatters won't ruin this site too.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

No, but it IS a form of expression.

Re:Why I'll never own an iPhone

[Anonymous Coward]

i'll never own them because they're overpriced plastic crap popular with some of the most braindead vapid shallow people ever.

but to each their own.

Plastic? Sure as hell proves who is a one of the most braindead vapid shallow people ever.

"...associated with the far right"

[Anonymous Coward]

What if it was associated with the far-left? Would that be banned too, and who decides how far to any side of the political spectrum is inappropriate? Nicole the petty dictator/censor with no last name?

Easy

[DontBeAMoran]

Make Pepe gay. Apple will be struggling internally and won't be able to decide if it should be banned or accepted.

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

Pepe should be a far-right black female lesbian jewish gluten-intolerant vegan with a peanut allergy.

Re:Easy

[Ksevio]

And at the same time the alt-right will get disgusted with themselves for meming a gay frog and then it won't be a hate symbol anymore!

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

The alt-right didn't meme a frog. That was a prank played on a journalist.

Re:Easy

[harrkev]

Funny how the alt-right seems to support Milo Yiannopoulos, and he is very openly gay.

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

Nah, that's an easy one, hating Trump is always king. Supporting Trump immediately invalidates all your oppression points.

For instance, LA just canceled their gay pride parade and replaced it with a "Resist" march because gay Trump supporters from North Carolina wanted to participate.

Re:Easy

[Ksevio]

That's like the "I'm not racist, I have friends that are black!" of the alt-right?

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

That's true. And I'm pretty sure this story is going to prompt another one.

It is frankly amazing how gullible and frankly ignorant modern journalists are. Completely non-critical of their own running narrative.

Re:Easy

[zapadnik]

How would a 'racist' have black friends? wouldn't they avoid them if they were, indeed, racist ?

The criteria are more like 'If you don't follow the dictates of the Party' you are a 'racist' no matter your skin color and diversity of friends. That's closer to the criteria you are using. 'Racist' is just a label people use now to say 'heretic to my political beliefs'. Same deal with using the label 'Nazi'.

This all comes from Post Modernist theory where Diversity of Opinion is help in absolute contempt. Post Modernists will never agree to disagree, they will always act to destroy any heresy of the current Party line. The problem is, the Party line often moves, and previously 'pious' virtue signallers get caught out and become 'heretics' to be destroyed. The whole system is completely bonkers, yet those that lack wisdom think it is the pinnacle of modern morality - it's like they've never thought about "The Emperor's New Clothes" at all.

Re:Easy

[zapadnik]

Loyalty to Post Modernist politics trumps every other Identity group. Hence Classic Liberal ('Conservative'/Libertarian in the US sense) women are deemed 'non-women' and people like Islamist-MaxistLinda Sarsour says black, female, FGM-victim Ayan Hirsi Ali should have her "vagina taken away". This is because Post Modernist tribalism trumps feminism. Classic Liberal Black Men are called 'racist' and 'Uncle Toms', Because Post Modernist tribalism trumps ethnicity. Classic Liberal gays are sent death threats by other gays, and called 'non-gays' and 'homophobes. Because Post Modernist tribalism trumps sexual proclivity. Classic Liberal Jews are sent death threats by other Jews, and called 'Nazis' (for real). Because Post Modernist tribalism trumps religious affiliation. Post Modernism is extremely 'puritannical' and pseudo-religious in the sense that there are 'faithful' and extreme hatred for 'heretics'. Post Moderrnism is the enemy of Enlightenment Civilization and is quite fanatical in nature.

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

There's no way for someone to prove that they're not racist when denial is proof. They're supporting and accepting a gay man and you're making it into a bad thing.

Given that math is racist nowadays, you have to realize what a hateful scumbag you are for helping trivialize real hatred by using blanket accusations as a weapon.

Re:Easy

[DontBeAMoran]

How would a 'racist' have black friends?

Because he's black? Racism isn't restricted to white people.

Re:Easy

[c6gunner]

Nah, it's like the "your original comment was stupid, and here's why" of the alt-right. And my response is the "now stop doubling down on stupid" of the alt-right.

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

No, this is the 'alt right are every colour, BOTH genders, every sexual orientation'.

So far the only people who have wanted violence is antifa and those who wanted segregation at universities the ctrl-left.

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

There's only one Pepe in my life, and he definitely wasn't gay. He was odor-able.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lsQfTaStcs&list=PLSy0M7iYcjGjR0KXbpiHOupYBqS4TcSEe

Re:Easy

[Anonymous Coward]

That's like the "I'm not racist, I have friends that are black!" of the alt-right?

I'm curious as to how that isn't a valid argument, assuming of course that the person using it means that they are not racist towards blacks. Care to enlighten me?

Re:Easy

[zapadnik]

True. I was writing for those the specific scenario the original poster mentioned, and they always assume that only Caucasians can be racist - everyone else is a 'victim' to a Post Modernist so is only reacting to 'structural racism' and other deceptions of sophistry.

Hello My Baby Hello My Honey

[Anonymous Coward]

I hope Apple doesn't find out about this!

I don't get it

[Anonymous Coward]

Each time this Pepe shit comes up I have no idea what it is, so I look it up and it turns out to be something extremely stupid and/or boring. Who knows why this shy keeps coming up in the news if it's so forgettable. Well here I go again I guess.

So easy!

[Anonymous Coward]

This was too easy, we should choose some symbols and icons that are more known and loved by more people. So that we can make them piss all over them of their own choosing, simply because we say they should.
Im voting for Jesus and Mohamad, let the games begin!

stop oppresing me

[Anonymous Coward]

Queue a bunch of assholes that think sophistry is the spark that makes them special snowflakes in defence of the indefensible.

Re:stop oppresing me

[Anonymous Coward]

Queue them up and shoot them!

You spelled Nazi wrong

[WillAffleckUW]

It's not associated with the "alt-right", it's associated with Nazis.

will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too?

[scatbomb]

You clearly haven't thought this through. What will you do with the alt-right (or whatever group is unpopular at the moment) co-opt other stuff? WIll you ban all of those new hate symbols as well? What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes? Would you be in favor of banning all that stuff too?

Pepe ?

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought it said Pope. Anyhow, Tim Cook is behind this. Along with the secret HOMOPOD project to turn kids queer.

Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too

[Rakarra]

What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes

All of those images are very well known across the culture. Pepe the Frog wasn't -- I'd say he has far far more exposure as a hate symbol than from the original usage, sad to say.

Damn you Apple normies!

[Anonymous Coward]

You may suppress our ethnic Kekistani heritage, but we will triumph in the end.

And his most beloved Pepe will rise again!

Live for Kek.
Die for Kek.
Meme for Kek!

Usenet has a three part acronym for that.

[Anonymous Coward]

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Pepe is the Forever Alone mascot

[Anonymous Coward]

Are the alt-right crowd foreveralone too?

Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too

[Anonymous Coward]

Pop stars have tweeted Pepe. That you weren't exposed to it doesn't mean it wasn't "well known across the culture".

Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too

[scatbomb]

Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?

Re:Make Pepe Gay

[Anonymous Coward]

Pepe is actually a tranny-chaser which falls under the rainbow flag umbrella.

Misread this

[mannd]

Misread this as "Pope is banned from the Apple App Store." Seemed a bit odd.

Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too

[Rakarra]

Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?

I'm not arguing to ban it. I've never said to ban anything like this, but I suppose Apple can do what they want with their private service.
I'm just saying that the symbol's been ruined for its original context.