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Pepe Is Banned From the Apple App Store (vice.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The rarest pepe is one found on the iOS App Store, and now we know why: Apple has categorized the meme frog as "objectionable content" and has rejected an app called Pepe Scream, Motherboard confirmed. "Your app contains images and references of Pepe the Frog, which are considered objectionable content," an Apple App Review Board employee named Nicole wrote in a rejection notice to Spirit Realm Games, the developer of Pepe Scream. "It would be appropriate to remove the references and revise the images in your app." MrSnrhms, a developer for Spirit Realm Games, gave Motherboard temporary access to the team's iOS developer account, which showed that Apple did indeed reject the app because it contains Pepe, a cartoon frog that has been increasingly associated with the alt-right. Also read: Pepe the Frog Is Dead.

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  1. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by darkain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One way to think of this would be a new form of Denial of Service attack. Just take any icon you want, and create a fake hate group that idolizes it, and start reporting that icon to various organizations to have all content with that icon removed.

  2. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.

    4Chan tricked the media into thinking that was the case. Just like they tricked them into thinking the "OK" hand gesture was a symbol for white power.
    Every instance on social media you see of Pepe the Frog or the "OK" hand gesture being used for such purposes is a farce. The media bought it whole hog, with zero investigation, zero confirmation, and zero thinking.

  3. But Pepe is dead! by fredrated · · Score: 4, Funny

    How could he even go to the Apple App Store?

  4. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yep, they also convinced a few members of the media that creatine fueled elliot rogers' murder spree.. basically 4chan is a bit like the onion, entertaining but don't even for a second take it seriously.

  5. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.

  6. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Calydor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have seen that happen with my country's flag.

    No, really. I have literally seen people argue NOT to use the flag in a logo because it's heavily used by a political party considered far right/nationalist. So ... the most obvious symbol of a country should not be used in the logo for that country's branch of a global group. Because OMG RAYCYSTS!

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  7. like the Confederate flag? by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apple likes to ban things and hasn't figured out that when the country is fairly evenly split no matter what side you take you lose customers. They quickly reversed course last time after the hysteria over confederate flags. Target is suffering from this as we speak but will likely not change course having painted themselves into a corner.

    Citations:

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2... http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/2...

    1. Re:like the Confederate flag? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Target should have known their target audience better. When your only sales argument is your low, low price, your target audience is probably not the hipster crowd.

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    2. Re:like the Confederate flag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Target should have known their target audience better. When your only sales argument is your low, low price, your target audience is probably not the hipster crowd.

      That isn't Target's audience, you're thinking of Wal-Mart, who coincidentally has dropped pretty much all of the Duck Dynasty crap, doesn't cover itself with Confederate Flags, and is busy making their workers deliver packages! Frankly, Trump is honored to shop there, and suggests buying all your quality merchandise from them.

      Target, however, markets itself as a source faux fine goods. With a Trump Presidency, everybody is too poor to afford that, so they're suffering from their refusal to portray themselves as a coal mine. If only they'd play along and pretend, they'd get tons of handout money just like the Saudis.

      But hey, it's better than K-mart, which is doing so badly their Blue-light special is being downgraded to a red LED. Sears, of course, being a company that's not identified as part of America, they're pretty much DOOMED!

    3. Re:like the Confederate flag? by computational+super · · Score: 2

      boycotting Target over a bathroom issue

      Actually if all the men who were boycotting Target over the men in the women's bathroom issue would just go to Target and use the women's bathroom every time they had to go, Target would change its policy in a BIG hurry.

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    4. Re:like the Confederate flag? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're a man, walk into a dozen ladies rooms and tell us how it goes. Best if they're someplace where the bathrooms are busy. A bar, not Target.

      Bonus if you walk into the ladies room at a tittie bar.

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    5. Re:like the Confederate flag? by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      Actually if all the men who were boycotting Target over the men in the women's bathroom issue would just go to Target and use the women's bathroom every time they had to go, Target would change its policy in a BIG hurry.

      Target has loss prevention cameras all over the store, so they probably have a pretty good idea how much "traffic" the restrooms get. I'm sure if this was a real issue, the cameras wouldn't lie. This is just another case where some people look at a mole hill and see a mountain.

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    6. Re:like the Confederate flag? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      No trannys achieve that though. They look like dudes in a wig that need a shave.

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  8. Re:but by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Go buy a device that offers it.

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  9. Re:trolling libtards by DRJlaw · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Valley Values triggered and out comes the ban hammer...

    Whereas conservative values concerning things like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright seemingly evaporate the moment that someone appropriates Pepe for conservative lulz.

    Did Matt Furie author the app, or license it to the app? I doubt it, because Pepe is dead.

  10. Re:trolling libtards by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.

    Yes, that is actually a choice you have.

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  11. Shhh It's okay dear. by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tim will keep you safe. No one will hurt your feelings here.

  12. Re:trolling libtards by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

    Of course they can. And we can mock them at every opportunity for doing so.

  13. Re:trolling libtards by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

    It's all well and good until something you think isn't hate speech becomes Apple hate speech.

    Or the altcoin you like to use suddenly becomes "against the terms of service". Then so much for your phone investment.

    Really, Apple is so filthy rich and they keep getting richer by selling average people a bland comfort bubble, that they should just offer to buy back phones from people who complain about the apps they pull. It would be a trivial slice of their userbase and they could resell the phones as refurbs anyway.

    I do think they are doing security right, but I can't even consider using an Apple phone, because I can't have one that may have features I depend on be taken away retroactively. So far, Android is a safe choice for predictability, even if the security is kind of iffy for the non-diligent user.

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  14. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by sexconker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah and when racist sacks of shit that don't bother with 4Chan see it reported and start doing it not ironically but rather with intent... well, at that point it is a symbol of racist shitbags

    Point to some examples of this happening, please. Also quantify them - establish that they were numerous and pervasive, not incidental, and thus justified considering the image to be "a symbol of racist shitbags".

    Even the creator of pepe has disavowed his own creation because its been co-opted.

    Who the fuck cares what the creator does or says? You're still begging the question. You're claiming it was "co-opted" but have failed to show that it was in fact used by actual racists for racist purposes and have failed to show that any such usage rose to a level that would turn it into a symbol of hate.

    It's a shitty looking cartoon frog. The only thing it's a symbol of is weak, shitty memes.

  15. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Redundant

    'Alt-right' are _not_ generally racists. You start from bullshit, you end at bullshit.

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  16. Re:Objectionable Content? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    It's a cartoon frog, for chrissake.

    It's a cartoon frog whose copyright is owned by its creator. If he doesn't want it used in an app, it doesn't get used.

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  17. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    Racists use letters too. Letters must be racist.

    As the ADL says "The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted. "

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  18. Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right by Ksevio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... And then was actually used by alt-right in racist memes. The problem with satire is when the crazy people start to take it seriously

  19. Re:trolling libtards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.

    Nah, you should get government to force Apple to serve you a Pepe app the same way they forced that bakery to serve a gay wedding cake.

    I'm not saying which position is correct on either of those issues. I'm just saying people should be consistent across both of them.

    Either a business can refuse to sell both those things to anyone or everyone as they please, or the government can compel a business to sell those things if/when somebody asks for them.

  20. Why I'll never own an iPhone by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Censorship is unacceptable.

  21. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You are a sign of racism. I have taken your name and used it to post racist comments all over the Internet. Please delete your Slashdot account immediately as it is a sign of alt-right hate.

  22. Re:trolling libtards by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    On the one hand, it's all a 4chan con, Pepe isn't really loved by the alt-right... But when the author kills him off, we are gonna go ape-shit and he can't be killed because he's ours now!

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  23. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The word "Swastika" is a Sanskrit word. Never in the short history of the Nazi regime did any German refer to it with the word "Swastika", but the word "Hakenkreuz".
    What i find sad is that uneducated idiots like you refer to it as a Swastika thus vivifying a word unrelated to the Nazis which is actually important to half the world population located in Asia from religious, cultural, and historical standpoints.
    Those standpoints are 2000 years old, far more than the short-lived 20 year old Nazi Regime.
    In this case, it is not that words evolved, but that brains of people like yourself devolved and the vocabulary with them.
    This requires correction. Not only to bring justice to the Asian people, but also to resolve the injustice perpetrated by misinformation and lack of education of people like yourself giving a cultural victory to the Nazis over a symbold they don't deserve, all because people like you are so small-minded that they need a brand recognition for an ideology even if it means offending and desecrating 2000 years of history of a continent which makes half the planet's population.
    The real injustice is calling is a "Swastika", and deeming it a "hate symbol", because of shortsightedness and narrow-mindedness.

    This frog meme thing being politicized and banned is a far more idiotic representation of idiocracy than what the above stated represents.
    It is also pathetic, childish, and narrow-minded.

  24. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

    If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.

    Change is about all you will have left to your name if you were to try it. Disney has a bit more money and a slightly larger legal team than the creator of Pepe the Frog.

  25. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Kek" is a god, not a "neo-fash group".

  26. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I see, you are a social justice whiner.

    There is nothing wrong with the men's rights movement. Sure, there are bad elements in it just as there are bad elements in the women's rights movement, but you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

  27. Easy by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make Pepe gay. Apple will be struggling internally and won't be able to decide if it should be banned or accepted.

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    1. Re:Easy by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      And at the same time the alt-right will get disgusted with themselves for meming a gay frog and then it won't be a hate symbol anymore!

    2. Re:Easy by harrkev · · Score: 2, Informative

      Funny how the alt-right seems to support Milo Yiannopoulos, and he is very openly gay.

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    3. Re:Easy by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      How would a 'racist' have black friends?

      Because he's black? Racism isn't restricted to white people.

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    4. Re:Easy by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's like the "your original comment was stupid, and here's why" of the alt-right. And my response is the "now stop doubling down on stupid" of the alt-right.

  28. Re:trolling libtards by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Did he bother trademarking it?

    He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.

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  29. Re:Objectionable Content? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    You don't understand the difference between copyright and trademark, or you're playing stupid to make a point.

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  30. Re: but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The tolerant, inclusive left, everyone.

  31. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

    Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.

    You didn't even have to look hard to see plenty of asshole Trump supporters sporting the frog emoji (implied to be Pepe) in their username. This shit might've spawned from the filthy bowels of 4Chan as a joke, but Dogecoin started as a joke too and as of right now has a $384,751,531 market cap. Once people start taking a joke seriously, it ceases to be a joke.

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  32. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Moheeheeko · · Score: 3, Informative

    Shit Trump getting elected was just one giant /pol/ trollfest. Even /pol/ cant believe that Trump got elected.

  33. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Calydor · · Score: 1

    Well, I live there NOW, actually, which is why you'll see me comment a lot on the state of internet connectivity in Germany, but I'm referring to my birth country, Denmark. Which incidentally has one of the oldest (if not the oldest, period) flags in the world.

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  34. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Alt-right is not racist, get a clue.

    The KKK probably mostly votes Republican, but most Republicans are not members of the KKK. Same with the alt-right.

    The alt-right, in simplest terms, says: multiculturalism doesn't actually work. Mixing cultures leads to conflict. Furthermore they believe specifically that Western culture is threatened by multiculturalism, because too many migrants from non-western cultures are being accepted, and failing to integrate.

    There's nothing particularly racist about that. There may well be something racist in the progressive position that everyone except westerners should strive to preserve their culture.

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  35. Re:trolling libtards by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

    "But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."

    They can do whatever they want until market forces convince them otherwise. You can bitch, whine, moan and complain about their app store polices, their glued-together fabrication process, and their locked-down mobile OS, but as long as the masses keep lining up to buy their new shinies every year - Apple doesn't care.

    Let's also be realistic here: How many people are actually going to miss this shitty little "racist" cartoon frog game? You can't even find a really good quality copy of Song of the South on public torrent trackers, and that's something which is relatively well known (Disney even has a damn water ride based on it!), and not even really all that racist.

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  36. Re:but by computational+super · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn straight - this country was founded on the principle that anything I associate with anything I disagree with should be removed not just from my sight, but from everybody else's sight, too!

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  37. Re:but by mea_culpa · · Score: 1

    Oh good grief. Who's the fascists here? Think about that for a bit and get back to me. I'm curious what you come up with.

  38. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by computational+super · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually the latest white power symbol is a white image of an apple with a bite taken out of it, which symbolizes the superior white race being chosen by God to cleanse the earth after Adam and Eve took a bite of the poisoned apple in the garden of Eden.

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  39. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, if you google "mickey mouse nazi" or similar, you pretty much see... well, more or less what you'd expect to see: tons of mickey mouse in SS uniforms and the like. In fact, if you compare "mickey mouse nazi" to "pepe nazi", you get almost the same amount of hits (at least, I do, YMMV). Because that's how the Internet works. However, it's not politically convenient for anyone to try associating Mickey Mouse with fascism, so no one cares.

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  40. Re:but by Megol · · Score: 1

    But is he alt-right?

  41. Re:trolling libtards by computational+super · · Score: 1

    Apple is a private company and can do what they want

    But Fox News can't, remember.

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  42. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this a joke I just didn't get?

    Kek is just "lol" from the orcs in World of Warcraft. It's just a dumb 4chan joke. Doing something for top kek isn't some internal neo-nazi language. It's the new kid on the block way of saying you are doing something "for the lulz", or "just for laughs" or "insert your newfangled new kid slang here".

    The fact that this stuff is taken so seriously is almost frightening in and of itself. When did our culture get so engrossed in this dumb garbage?

    I don't remember apple banning the cockmongler and reporting on the mean antics of something awful goons. The world has gone mad.

    Kids always try to find something that will bother the previous generation. It looks like this hyper-offensive bullshit is jut the new way to laugh at your parents. Do what adults are supposed to do. Ignore it.

  43. Re:but by Megol · · Score: 1

    Those with fascist ideals are the fascists. It's that simple.

    If you are trying to imply that Apple is fascist by removing something that people may find disturbing (even if I personally think people shouldn't be) then you are wrong and should be ashamed.

  44. Re:trolling libtards by Rockoon · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Lets be honest tho... the only reason that shopkeeper had to make a wedding cake for someone when they didnt want to.. is because the last thing that actually happens when the left plays identity politics... is liberty.

    Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?

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  45. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Informative

    The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats. The greatest hate group in America continues to be the Democrat Party, they just haven't gotten around to banning themselves.

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  46. Re:Objectionable Content? by Rockoon · · Score: 1

    Why cant it be both?

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  47. Re:but by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

    so you mean go make a raspberry pi mobile phone?

  48. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by taustin · · Score: 1

    "Apple IPhones, the official phone of the KKK."

  49. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Neo-fash? Who's the one physically assaulting people over naughty words again?

    It's nice to know that you side with the Antifa, which has attacked unconscious people and beaten people in sneak attacks with bike locks. But I guess that's what they teach at Berkley these days? Hate for anyone who doesn't ascribe to your norms? The Antifa are modern day brownshirts--people who physically assault those whose speech they disagree with--which is quite ironic given how they claim to be against fascism.

    50 of your comrades are being arraigned in DC today, incidentally. Feel free to protest peacefully all you wish, but the minute you start assaulting people, please realize that we will unmask you and hunt you down, just as the Berkley professor who thought it okay to sneak attack people with bike locks did.

  50. Re: Not assoc. w/ Alt-Right by taustin · · Score: 1

    Around here, a penny is all most thoughts are worth.

  51. Re:trolling libtards by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright

    You do realize you just contradicted yourself? Either you hold actual property dear, or believe in imaginary one. Putting restrictions on what I can do on hardware I supposedly own deprives me of a good part of that possession's value.

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  52. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

    You know, for being a site full of "smart" people. there sure are a lot of people with either no brains or their head so far up their ass you cant tell the difference.

  53. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Jokes on you Anonymous Coward, people have been trashing your name for years!

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  54. Re:but by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    That moron wasn't a Berkeley prof. He was an unemployed former part time instructor at some brain dead Jr college.

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  55. Re: trolling libtards by KGIII · · Score: 1

    Heh... Those men made of straw were pretty easy to defeat.

    Well, unless you threaded your comment in the wrong spot.

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  56. Re:but by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

    It has been co-oped to be the symbol for Kek, a neo-fash (New Fascists) group that is associated with the so-called "Men's Rights Movement" and "The Red Pill".

    100% false. You just made that up. Complete BS.

    Kekistan is a satire of identity politics. It mocks the white nationalists as much as anyone else. Kekistan was created (or at least popularized) by YouTuber Sargon of Akkad, whose politicla views are well know and not alt-right. (He has a track record of sending known alt-right people who follow him interracial porn until they unfollow).

    Pepe is just a meme. There are Million s of Pepe images, with only about a half dozen base images that could be considered racist, such as Hitler Pepe. It was the most popular meme image of 2015 (according to Tumblr) so of course there a Hitler Pepe - there's an everything Pepe.

    But now Pepe is a counter-culture Icon, ever since it was attacked by the Hillary campaign.

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  57. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Black 'white power manchildren'?

    Asian 'white power manchildren'?

    Mexican 'white power manchildren'?

    All you've got is worn out overused insults.

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  58. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by moeinvt · · Score: 2

    Why bother bradley? If you say any of those things about multiculturalism, immigration or preserving Western culture, you're going to be called a "racist" anyway. And who gives a shit? It's just a word.

    People crying "Racism!" are only trying to shut you up and divert the argument. Don't even waste your time with them. As soon as you start arguing about who is & isn't "racist" or why certain ideas might or might not be "racism", you're playing their game. Rather than discussing ideas, you're suddenly on the defensive trying to explain why those ideas are not "racist". Screw that. You have a right to your opinions, and if someone else wants to call it "Racism!" so be it. Just accept the label and it loses its power.

  59. Re:but by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Fascists also co-opted Latin script; I hope you still remember your cuneiform!

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  60. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    so anybody that supports trump is a racist?

  61. You spelled Nazi wrong by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    It's not associated with the "alt-right", it's associated with Nazis.

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  62. Re:but by BozoForPresident · · Score: 1

    No, Pepe, you mustn't touch my apps! https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (When Your Smartphone is Salty AF (i9000) by Joy Camp)

  63. Re:but by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Those with fascist ideals are the fascists. It's that simple.

    Yeah, let's find a definition: dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce. Of these, Apple doesn't wield a dictatorial power (yet?), but the rest are spot on. On the other hand, I don't see anything that would match that definition among people you want to apply that label to.

    Racism != fascism, they're completely orthogonal. Of the three main regimes that were strongly fascist (Mussolini, Hitler and Putin), only the Nazis really cared about race.

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  64. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by OYAHHH · · Score: 2

    > it was Goldwater and Reagan, who decided that courting the Strom Thurmonds of the world

    Oh puhlease, give me a break. And next you're going to tell me that Hillary Clinton swapping spit with Robert Byrd in the front of cameras was all a figment of my imagination....

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  65. Re:but by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Putin?

    The third, undisputed, label self-applying, historic 'fascist' leader was Franco.

    But you're basically right. Franco cared, a lot, about Catholicism though.

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  66. will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too? by scatbomb · · Score: 2

    You clearly haven't thought this through. What will you do with the alt-right (or whatever group is unpopular at the moment) co-opt other stuff? WIll you ban all of those new hate symbols as well? What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes? Would you be in favor of banning all that stuff too?

  67. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Altus · · Score: 1

    Do try to not read into my comment more than I have written.

    Thats not hard because you haven't said much of anything that actually adds to the conversation.

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  68. Re:but by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Right, Franco is fourth, I've forgotten about him.

    As for Putin, that's pretty ironic as "fascist" is his propaganda machine's favourite insult.

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  69. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by lgw · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen much moaning about Apple in the comments for this story. Nothing surprising in Apple floating with every moral panic, or rumor of a moral panic.It's the product they sell, and apparently people like it. Fair enough.

    The annoying bit is that one story in the Daily Beast, based on sources that were channers and (naturally) trolled the reporter about Pepe being an alt-right symbol, was all it took for people to believe that nonsense. (The bit where the Hillary campaign called Pepe a hate symbol quoted directly from the Daily Beast story). Astonishing how little critical thinking ability, how little willingness to do 2 minutes of research, people have.

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  70. Re:trolling libtards by OYAHHH · · Score: 2

    > You don't have a right to be on every platform. You don't have a right to force Apple to publish your speech.

    Tell that to the bakers forced by the government to bake for LGBT whatevers.

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  71. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by KGIII · · Score: 1

    That is correct. My comment is only on the usage of the term "racist." It's not even remotely important.

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  72. Re:but by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    When you bring debatables into the discussion, it doesn't help.

    Forth would be Edi Amine. He self applied the label IIRC.

    By any reasonable definition of Fascist. Right now: Venezuela, Saudi, Pakistan, N. Korea. But all debateable.

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  73. Re:trolling libtards by Verdatum · · Score: 1

    You can draw pepe's on your hardware all you want. Copyright law says that unlicensed derivative works can't be _sold_ unless they fall within fair-use, and this doesn't.

  74. Re:trolling libtards by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Pepe is a pretty generic frog. Green, two eyes, four limbs. If another frog is a violation of copyright, then Pepe is as well, he wasn't first.

    You can draw a mouse named mickey under copyright law, but you'll get killed by trademarks.

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  75. Re:Objectionable Content? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    Copyright is NOT supposed to be used to remove works from the public. It is exactly opposite of its express purpose, to feed the Public Domain. Attempting to deny the public access to the works should constitute a breach of contract and revocation of copyright, reverting hte work to eth Publi Domain where it rightfully belongs. TL:DR - Copyright is a social bargain, creators should never be allowed to remove works, that breaks tho social contract, and all rights should be voided.

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  76. Re:Objectionable Content? by Verdatum · · Score: 1

    As I mentioned in response to another one of your comments, no, you are mistaken. Derivative works are in the realm of copyright law, not trademark law. You can't copy a person's character and write stories about their further adventures and sell those stories. You can't draw a green frog that looks just like pepe, and name him pepe and sell him as an app. No trademark is needed for this protection. It is automatic.

  77. Re:Objectionable Content? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    You don't understand the difference between copyright and trademark, or you're playing stupid to make a point.

    Pepe is covered by both copyright and trademark. The first is automatic and requires no application and the second requires an application.

    Either one is enough to prevent anyone from using Pepe in an app without permission.

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  78. Re:Objectionable Content? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Copyright is NOT supposed to be used to remove works from the public. It is exactly opposite of its express purpose, to feed the Public Domain.

    When Pepe become public domain, then it can be used for an app. But beware, there is also trademark involved. Trademarks do not become public domain.

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  79. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

    The problem is that enough people now believe that Pepe is now a symbol of white supremacists, that it might as well be. Hell, even the original creator of Pepe believes it to the point where he gave up on the character.

    Lets face it... Pepe is now a symbol of hate. Whether it originated as a prank or not is irrelevant.

    The swastika was a good luck symbol before the Nazis used it. Now you can get arrested in some parts of the world if you use it anywhere.

    And now Pepe is receiving the same treatment. It's unfortunate, but there it is.

  80. Re:but by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Yep. The /bTards accidently raised an elder god. Saw it on youtube...

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  81. Re:Objectionable Content? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    I think that trademarks need to be revisited. Its too much art to be denied the public domain. There should be an expiration for it, because it creates ugly scenarios where what the Public Domain gained is fuzzy at best. Mickey Mouse should be Public Domain in his entirety now. There is no public benefit to allowing eternal trademark.

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  82. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    It's a wonderfully circular set of definitions.

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  83. Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes

    All of those images are very well known across the culture. Pepe the Frog wasn't -- I'd say he has far far more exposure as a hate symbol than from the original usage, sad to say.

  84. Re:but by farrellj · · Score: 1

    Foolish mortal. I am willing to bet that you have never even stood in front of an Egyptian altar, or honoured The Gods. As you have evoked from the Egyptian Pantheon, when you die, you will stand before Osiris, and He will weigh your heart....I would suggest that you might want to go on a severe diet before you die...but then again, why bother, I am sure that Thoth will not be recording that you entered the afterlife.
    Pitiful mortal.

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  85. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    This viewpoint is similar to the Christian "Everyone has sinned" baloney. It's there to establish a feeling of guilt. It serves no positive purpose in society.

    I wouldn't say it serves NO positive purpose. It's supposed to burst the bubble of unearned pride (re: arrogance) one can get. Unfortunately, many have taken that and turned it into false humility.

  86. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Rakarra · · Score: 2

    The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats

    The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.

  87. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    The group grew because their opposition were a bunch of neo-Stalinists using violence.

    So now anybody who opposes violent commie children is an automatic 'racist'...racist blacks, mexicans, gays etc.

    You can't be willing to kick the shit out of a few actual fascists without being labeled 'alt-right'.

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  88. Re:trolling libtards by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    Did he bother trademarking it?

    He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.

    Even if he trademarked it, what's he going to do? These aren't major companies going out appropriating Pepe the Frog, it's many individuals. He could sue one dude, but so what? He'll be out a lot of money and there 499,999 other dudes in line to be sued. Trademark has to be defended, and if you can't defend it, people can still run roughshod over it. His 'pepe the frog is dead' thing was an admission that there's really nothing he can do about, so he's washing his hands of his involvement.

  89. Re:Objectionable Content? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I think that trademarks need to be revisited. Its too much art to be denied the public domain.

    So, you believe that after a certain amount of time, Apple's trademark should be free for use by any computer manufacturer?

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  90. Re:Objectionable Content? by spire3661 · · Score: 2

    I think that companies rebrand all the time when it suits them, i dont see a problem forcing a re-brand after a set time to feed the Public Domain. I dont think common words like Apple or Windows should be allowed to be trademarked at all.

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  91. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by William+Baric · · Score: 3

    Being against multiculturalism is not about race, it's about being against mixing different cultures and different ways of life within the same society. Multiculturalism leads to communitarianism, even if people are of the same race, and communitarianism leads to the destruction of social cohesion, which leads to hatred and violence. Multiculturalism is extremely destructive to societies.

    And no, someone's race does not define his culture or his religion. Associating a culture to a specific race is racism. For example, anyone who thinks "cultural appropriation" is a thing, is someone who is profoundly racist.

  92. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.

    Which of course really explains why democrats continue to push segregation, and identity politicos are core party values right?

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  93. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    AKA you're showing the world you're actual a bigot, and they're all laughing at you.

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  94. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.

    He can wear whatever he wants. But if you want to use that line of reasoning, liberals and progressives are being very well represented by the events at evergreen college and the riots at Berkeley.

    What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?
    You mean besides the people that use them in order to piss you off so you become a foaming mouth breather who's batshit insane? Seems to be working.

    Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags?

    They're not, they're trolling you. And it's why Trump is going to win a second term, the left have done more in the last 6mo drive people fro the left to center and center-right then anything else could have. I personally can't wait to see where it ends up. But considering the left already broke down into violence? I'm guessing that'll be their next attempt again.

    Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags.

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  95. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    Don't worry. I'm sure you can tell us now why Laci Green is a gender traitor and why she needs to be purged from the annal of feminist literature.

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  96. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by lucm · · Score: 1

    There are days where browsing at -1 and reading the weird gay porn comments is the best thing to do on Slashdot. Some of those underground gay porn writers are pretty good.

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  97. Re:trolling libtards by lucm · · Score: 1

    Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?

    You mean when they were fighting the Republicans and trying to start a new country so they could keep their slaves?

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  98. Re:but by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    Hagenkreuz is German for Swastika, dumbass.

  99. Re:but by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    If that Fairphone didn't smell like it was more concerned with bleeding-heart do-goodie than actually being a phone that gives you the choice to have what you want to have, it would be a good start.

    But yeah, maybe it's time to ponder the possibilities of a RasPi as a phone.

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  100. Re:trolling libtards by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Personally, I think it was a wrong decision to force any private company to do something like that. What they should enforce is priests perform gay weddings. If you take government money, you agree to do government's bidding.

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  101. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by poity · · Score: 1

    Who is the final authority on what qualifies? You say "enough people", but it seems a HUGE number of people isn't enough since the millions of people across the world who see the hammer & sickle as a symbol of hate have yet had their feelings acknowledged. Does it require something else? Perhaps those millions don't have the correct political alignment... maybe that's it.

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  102. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    lol I can never make it more than a few lines into those and it feels like my brain is melting. so I skip over and look for the stupidity(dont have to look too far) which is probably the main reason I return to the site. I love a good laugh.

  103. Re:but by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    go take a look on hackaday.io there is a few projects. one guy is actually pretty close to having a fully functioning phone. its not the smallest by any means but he built it himself.

  104. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.

    He was also wearing a Hugo Boss suit. Hugo Boss is now a symbol of white supremacy!

    What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?

    Don't forget the Facebook logo on those pages. OMG Facebook is a symbol of white supremacy!

  105. Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too by scatbomb · · Score: 1

    Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?

  106. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    The fascist 'anti-fascist' groups started rioting after the election. Only fools don't understand them to be fascists.

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  107. Re: but by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    /b/ is the population. I know they're not on 4chan anymore.

    /pol/ is one of the places they like to troll.

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  108. Re:but by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    Are you retarded?

    Things are called different things in different languages. The english word Swastika comes from Sanskrit, and refers to the shape and symbol that in German is called Hagenkreuz, from german for cross with hooks.

  109. Re:but by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    It's a sad day when this sort of drivel is voted Informative on Slashdot.

    Everyone who visited the alt-right communities on Reddit knows exactly what Kek and Pepe stand for. It's not like they're hiding it.

  110. Misread this by mannd · · Score: 1

    Misread this as "Pope is banned from the Apple App Store." Seemed a bit odd.

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  111. Re:trolling libtards by Rockoon · · Score: 1

    No those were Democrats, not Liberals.

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  112. Re:but by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pepe was the most popular meme of 2015. Maybe some alt-right trolls use it too - wouldn't surprise me. Doesn't make it an alt-right meme.

    "Kek" is just what the cool kids say instead of "lol". Seriously.

    You need therapy for your paranoia. Not saying that to be a dick: when you see hate in words and symbols that are used by everyone for everything, it's a warning sign. Take that seriously; seek help.

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  113. Re:Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    Why does there need to be a "final authority"? The anti-defamation league has declared it a hate symbol. Apple has now blocked it as inappropriate. There are plenty of more examples that can be found with a simple google search. To me, that means enough people believe it that that belief is causing a tangible impact in the world.

    If you're expecting me to give an explicit quantity that defines "enough", you're missing my point and I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish.

    "Enough" people believe that vaccines cause autism or a full of toxins or whatever bullshit, to be causing localized epidemics of diseases that had been effectively eradicated. Why don't you ask a parent whose child became encephalitic by measles, how many anti-vaxxers are "enough"?

  114. Re:but by Megol · · Score: 1

    Putin isn't fascist. While you have somewhat better understanding than most people (in that fascism in itself doesn't imply racism) you still make the mistake of applying the term (on very loose grounds) against something you don't like.

    Apple isn't fascist any more than a frog is and trying to paint them as fascist just make you look foolish. If you don't like their policies (I don't) then complain about them.

  115. Re:but by Megol · · Score: 1

    Now I understand that you probably is mentally retarded (given that you can't even get an account on this site) but why is that funny? It's the symbol values that is upsetting - not the symbol in itself.

  116. Re:but by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Putin isn't fascist.

    Nope, not only he is (fulfils every requirement of not only the definition of fascism I quoted, but also pretty much any of them that's not specifically tailored to regime X), but is also specially notable here as he calls everyone else a fascist (usually not directly, but it's his propaganda machine's favourite insult).

    Unlike what certain parties tell you, if you're A but claim to be B, you don't stop being A nor start being B. Whether it's communism "not a religion", christianity "not a polytheism" (4 main gods, thousands of minor deities), a pre-op trans (real)man a "woman", campaign donations "not corruption", a $SCRIPTURE-thumper a "good person", etc, etc. Call a spade a spade.

    And unlike some of those who are merely deluded, Putin is highly intelligent and does his thing fully consciously.

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  117. Re:will you ban other stuff when it's co-opted too by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?

    I'm not arguing to ban it. I've never said to ban anything like this, but I suppose Apple can do what they want with their private service.
    I'm just saying that the symbol's been ruined for its original context.

  118. Re: Symbol adopted by racist sacks of shit by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    When you happen to be accepting of most white cultures, but non-white cultures, well that's multiculturalism, and that's bad. How convenient. No, of course that's not RACIST, it's just against cultures that can't possibly exist together.

    It's racist when you say that white and non-white cultures can't exist in harmony together, but you know, it's FANCY racism, gussied up a little more than the Klan was willing to do it.