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With Her Blog Post About Toxic Bro-Culture at Uber, Susan Fowler Proved That One Person Can Make a Difference (recode.net)

Kara Swisher, writing for Recode: It was Lao Tzu who said that "the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." In the case of complete and utter change reeling through Uber right now -- culminating in the resignation of its once untouchable CEO Travis Kalanick -- it turns out that it began with one of the most epic blog posts to be written about what happens when a hot company becomes hostage to its increasingly dysfunctional and toxic behaviors. It was clear from the moment you read the 3,000-word post by former engineer Susan Fowler about her time at the car-hailing company that nothing was going to be the same. Titled simply, "Reflecting on one very, very strange year at Uber," the essay deftly and surgically laid out the map that the media and others would use to prove to its out-to-lunch board and waffling investors that Uber CEO Travis Kalanick had to go. In her account, Fowler was neither mean nor self-righteous, although in reading the story that she laid out about her horrible time there, it would have been completely fair for her to have taken that tone.

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  1. butterfly erection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In retrospect, it is interesting to see that a reflective blog post from an engineer ended up in the casualties of CEO, most of the senior leadership and a few board members. Maybe the cracks were already there but nevertheless it has been surreal seeing this unfold in the space of 5 months. It is almost like watching the butterfly effect in action.

    1. Re:butterfly erection by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In retrospect, it is interesting to see that a reflective blog post from an engineer ended up in the casualties of CEO, most of the senior leadership and a few board members. Maybe the cracks were already there but nevertheless it has been surreal seeing this unfold in the space of 5 months. It is almost like watching the butterfly effect in action.

      NOw...let's see if anyone will hire her now, after all of this....

      She brought down a 'toxic' CEO, ok....but now, is she a bit 'toxic' too?

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    2. Re:butterfly erection by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      People do get forgotten over time.
      While the effect of her actions may have long lasting effect. Her name will probably will not last long. So when looking for a job, chances are the background checks are not checking for activist fame, but criminal and job skills. Most companies even if they don't want to hire someone like her. May do so especially if she doesn't start ranting during the interview.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    3. Re:butterfly erection by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He wasn't fired due to the blog post. The VCs wanted him out for a long time. There is a long history of "articles" about it on the web. It is possible the VCs wanted to get rid of him because of the culture though.

    4. Re:butterfly erection by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nah, I think they wanted to get rid of him because he didn't want to test an IPO, the VCs bought in at a stupid-high valuation, and Uber is burning their cash at a rate of $63 per second, 60 seconds a minute, 60 minutes an hour, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year...

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    5. Re:butterfly erection by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it is definitely related to the IPO for sure. The VCs hinted that they wanted a more "mature" CEO before they did an IPO.

    6. Re:butterfly erection by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      NOw...let's see if anyone will hire her now, after all of this....

      According to her blog post that she wrote in February, she left Uber in December and started work at Stripe in January. When a push came to a shove at Uber, "I had a new job offer in my hands less than a week later."

      She brought down a 'toxic' CEO, ok....but now, is she a bit 'toxic' too?

      The men who work at Uber should probably be viewed as "toxic" by future employers, as the bad boy mentality drives out good people.

    7. Re:butterfly erection by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not excusing harassment, but going the HR route is the worst way to handle what should be an adult-adult situation.

      You're assuming that the other person is an adult. It might surprise you that not everyone who grows up is an adult. I've met more than a few children in the workplace. HR can either send them away or babysit them. If HR decides to babysit them, it's time to find a new job elsewhere.

    8. Re:butterfly erection by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If she has the skills and can do the job, then I'd hire her. If she 'whistleblows' on sexist practices, so what? I don't want that kind of stuff at my company. She would make the place better.

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  2. Obligatory Dalai Lama quote by Kergan · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If you think you're too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito."

  3. Uber Gets High Kalanick by FrankHaynes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Film at 11.

    It's doubtful that Travis was the only problem child at Uber. He probably hired like-minded pals who remain in power there, so this won't be the last we hear of problems at Uber.

    But this isn't "bro culture" or "toxic masculinity", he's just an everyday, run-of-the-mill, common asshole. Plenty more where he came from.

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    1. Re:Uber Gets High Kalanick by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      So "bros" or "like-minded pals" are not allowed to find employment?

      Here's hoping.

      The company has achieved amazing results and achievements

      Uber lost $2 billion last year (billion with a "b"). I guess you're right, that's amazing.

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    2. Re:Uber Gets High Kalanick by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But this isn't "bro culture" or "toxic masculinity", he's just an everyday, run-of-the-mill, common asshole.

      "Bro-culture" and "toxic masculinity" are just side-effects of being a common asshole while having a penis.

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    3. Re:Uber Gets High Kalanick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Toxic femininity is just side-effect of being a common asshole while having a vagina.

  4. Re:Sounds like ... by avandesande · · Score: 3, Funny

    lol when did we have a good reputation?

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  5. BAH! Everybody hates Uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was an easy target. Let's see her try that with a real company with real money, not some damn unicorn that barely exists at all. This story is one about the triumph of political correctness, not civil rights.

    1. Re:BAH! Everybody hates Uber by hackertourist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This wasn't about political correctness, it was about common decency, and Uber's lack thereof.

    2. Re:BAH! Everybody hates Uber by zbobet2012 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Being sexually propositioned on your first day by an immediate superior and then punished when you turned them down is not and never will be okay. And that has nothing to do with political correctness. These facts have been more or less confirmed by Uber themselves. If she "tried" this at a "real" company, her boss would have been fired on the spot.

      I had the pleasure of meeting Susan at a conference before this all started and it saddens me that someone obviously so bright had to deal with that kind of bullshit.

    3. Re:BAH! Everybody hates Uber by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now, every pat on the butt or peck on the cheek is 'harassment'.

      no, it's harassment, without scare quotes. The chivalrous thing to do is to keep your hands off your coworkers until you're invited.

    4. Re:BAH! Everybody hates Uber by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The whole idea about political correctness, which was created by the right wing, is to discredit the legitimate civil rights movement. Now, every pat on the butt or peck on the cheek is 'harassment'.

      I would posit, that the overuse of harassment or discrimination by those on the left, women and minorities have been what has rendered the terms less useful, and overused and abused.

      Sure, there are plenty of real occurrences of these abuses, however when so many folks found out they could make $$$ by crying 'wolf' and suing....well, the legitimate cases got lost in the mass of fake ones, and now....everyone is scared at the places of employment.

      Its getting harder and harder to fire someone that is incompetent due to them being afraid of the fired employee crying discrimination or verbal sexual assault.

      And that really isn't "political correctness"...that is mostly from the left screaming racism/sexism at anyone that either disagrees with them, OR may have actual studies that may show there actually are differences between the sexes, or races or racial cultures that are either pro/con when compared to other races/cultures or the opposite sex.

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  6. Re:Snowflake kills company... by Duhavid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would argue she was an asset to the company.

    It is now in the process of growing up a bit.  It may not make it to grown up, but this was a needed kick in the slats.

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  7. Re:She's out on her own. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm represented by Verve and InkWell. [susanjfowler.com] And it looks like she's doing the public speaking circuit.

    She's an author. I know this is shocking for some people on Slashdot, but she has a personal brand that exists independently of her tech job.

    But, I have to agree with the GP, she's not going be hired by anyone ever.

    According to her blog post, she left Uber and works at Stripe.

    The HR software used these days will catch it and her application would be deleted.

    I was out of work for two years, underemployed for six months, and filed for chapter seven bankruptcy in 2011. During that time I was told repeatedly by recruiters that I was "unemployable." The day after my bankruptcy got finalized, I had a new full-time job. The opinions of recruiters and HR software are overrated.

  8. Re: Sounds like ... by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although I agree with you that it was an inappropriate comment, I have to wonder if Susan Fowler would have gotten as much attention if she was not a young attractive female

    Of course not.

    And young attractive females have always had an easy time âmaking a differenceâ: allegations of sexual improprieties against men have often been fatal to the careers of those men, or simply fatal when the abuser was a white woman and the male was black.

    The idea that this is some newly developed superpower by women is not just laughably historically ignorant, it is offensive.

  9. Toxic to who? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My wife works in the medical industry and more or less ignores what happens in technology. However this entire time with news stories on NPR and the nightly news she was firmly against 'bro-culture' and sexism in technology.

    When the Uber Miami Memo leaked I showed it to her as 'evidence' for the toxic, misogynistic, bro-culture that was everywhere. She read it through twice and then came back with, "Ok, so where's the sexism that people are complaining about?". Every single thing in there she thought was completely reasonable. ("Don't have sex with someone that is above you or in the same group.", "Don't do drugs".)

    There is a narrative that a lot of people are pushing and a lot of other people are onboard with defending without sitting down and listening to what some individuals consider offensive and toxic.

  10. Re:Yes, assuming she was right of course by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, the board of the company certainly thinks she was being truthful, as did the independent investigation that they commissioned.

  11. Re:Slashdot editors don't care about Tech by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a community site.
    Everyone, even ACs can post articles.

    Sure, you can 'write your own site' and then you still complain that certain news is not posted in time ... so what is your point?

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  12. Re:She's out on her own. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are a buffoon, and a fraudulent blow-hard, who could not engineer his way out of a wet paper bag, even armed with a skill knife and a pair of scissors.

    Not sure why everyone keeps mistaking me for an engineer. Not everyone in IT is in engineering or management.