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North Korea Now Making Missile-Ready Nuclear Weapons, US Analysts Say (washingtonpost.com)
schwit1 shares a report from The Washington Post: North Korea has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, crossing a key threshold on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power, U.S. intelligence officials have concluded in a confidential assessment. The new analysis completed last month by the Defense Intelligence Agency comes on the heels of another intelligence assessment that sharply raises the official estimate for the total number of bombs in the communist country's atomic arsenal. The U.S. calculated last month that up to 60 nuclear weapons are now controlled by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Some independent experts believe the number of bombs is much smaller. "The IC [intelligence community] assesses North Korea has produced nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery, to include delivery by ICBM-class missiles," the assessment states, in an excerpt read to The Washington Post. "It is not yet known whether the reclusive regime has successfully tested the smaller design, although North Korea officially last year claimed to have done so," reports The Washington Post.
For those of you not fired by Google for expression views that go against the hive mind, I'm afraid the rest are doomed to a fiery end at the hand of a madman straight out of an Austin Powers movie.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
No proof of any of this.
We have fire and fury!. None of that wimpy old 'shock and awe' here
We'll give them a war they won't believe - President Rambo
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
NK isn't going to launch an attack on anyone, as it would be utter mass suicide and they know it. These weapons are a deterrent, in the hopes that the USA will no longer think of attacking their country without the risk of proper retaliation.
How about normalising relations with them? Or are they too good as this month's bogeyman?
The elephant in the room is that they have been enabled, if not actively assisted, by China for decades. Sure is a good thing the US wasn't dumb enough to outsource a huge chunk of our manufacturing to the totalitarian country silently backing these guys and their nuclear ambitions for the sake of next quarter's corporate profits, huh?
Speaking of North Korea's breakthrough miniaturization technology - presumably developed in their state-of-the-art research facilities, did we ever get to the bottom of where Saddam Hussein hid his Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Trump really needs a good war under his belt to become Presidential...
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Is it just me or is this complete insanity?
Granted, the US would wipe the floor with the DPRK, nuclear weapons or not, unless China got involved (and they won't unless their internal borders are threatened or a mass DPRK refugee crisis occurred).
But, I really dislike the idea of a nuclear strike of ANY size hitting Seattle or any other target on the west coast. And if the DPRK was foolish enough to nuke any targets on Japanese soil you would quickly see the wrath of the Japanese rise again. I dare say they'd invoke the clause, and you'd see 15m tall mechs invading the DPRK real quick.
I'm sure glad we've got a level-headed leader with years of experience in international diplomacy!
When the rapture comes, I'm taking your car.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
...and let them inspect it closely. Very closely.
That this time around it's no longer just a provocation but an actual attack... So that we can wipe them off the map already and never hear about North Korea again.
— President Donald Trump, 2017 Aug 8
— Mr. Donald Trump, 2013 Aug 13
A pertinent message from a time traveler:
https://twitter.com/realDonald...
You are welcome on my lawn.
You know, catch up to the people who wage war rhetoric towards North Korea and have enough of those missile-ready nuclear warheads and respective missiles, submarines, aircraft, etc. to deliver them world wide and turn the planet into a glass marble. The US needs to practice what they preach.
U.S. intelligence officials have concluded in a confidential assessment.
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
With a nuclear war comes:
1) Nuclear winter
2) population reduction
3) reduced fossil fuel usage
4) reduced CO2 emissions
All this will stop the great scourge of global warming.
This might be just the saddest funny joke the Universe will play on the liberals:
1) Libtards weaken Trump through their fake Russia story
2) NKorea is emboldened, deciding to nuke weak leader Trump, who will be impeached any day now ((c) CNN). Trump is indeed too embarrassed to ask for Russian help with NK
3) California is wiped out; surviving libtards realize that Trump is not quite the Russia-backed Hitler they coveted
4) Trump retaliated against NK
5) The resulting national unity solidifies the country. During the ensuing hundred days of mourning, Texas runs out of fireworks.
6) In 2020, the CA's 2 electoral vote go solidly for Trump
7) In kindergarten, "Boy that cried wolf" is replaced by "A Liberal that cried Russia."
(God forfend any of this actually comes to pass. Hopefully the libtards come to their senses before it is too late)
world? Watching this video, I can't help but admire them. They aren't going to let these evil scumbags take over their country and ruin their race, and they WILL do whatever is necessary to survive and defend themselves. I genuinely believe that they are either the last, or one of the few remaining good forces left in this rotten world, otherwise fully taken over by Jews. (For example, the USA is nothing but a Jew-run police state at this point.)
Bill Clinton made a deal with the NorKs back in the nineties that he said would keep Korea nuclear-free. He was so successful that Obama used the same team to negotiate his nuke deal with Iran, and we can all sleep easily in the certainty that Iran will never be able to launch a missile or detonate a nuke.
We are fyrther guaranteed safety by president Obama's 8 years of "strategic patience" which further esatblished a guarantee that neither Iran nor North Korea will ever get ICBMs or nukes.
Who you gonna believe, some Democrat politicians, or your lying eyes?
Oh well, the stupid young idiots who rabidly supported Obama and the Cintons will be the generation that pays the price.
This is a tech website. What are some tech related ways in which we could respond ? Aside from spreading viruses to their centrifuges, maybe we could drop 1000s of satellite communicators down to the NK people, sure some would get lost, others fall into government hands, but if only a few fall into the hands of an internal "resistance" it could help gather intelligence or spread western news.
They would not have to be high bandwidth, I'm thinking something like 2-way twitter (but keep it away from POTUS !)
Nullius in verba
A plaza full of stunted Koreans marching around with 50 year old weapons. Very admirable.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Should I start buying stock in Halliburton then?
There is no great wisdom in debating whether a madman brandishing a pistol has bothered to load the weapon. But this whole business just seems odd.
What about US? If the US attacks NK, you're confident NK won't retaliate?
We're paranoid because whatever is happening, is enough such that we really do need an adult in charge of our foreign policy, and we don't have one.
DO IT, FAGGOT.
I'm serious, you ridiculous little TROLL. You sound like some self-entitled little incel on Reddit or 4chan/b/, whining that you can't get laid and are going to KILL yourself. Well guess what? I'm telling you the same thing I'd tell them: FUCKING DO IT, FAGGOT. We're not impressed by your waving your tiny, child-sized nuclear DICK around, it's laughable, we're NOT taking you seriously, and you know why we're not taking you seriously? Because it's a card you can play precisely, exactly ONCE. After that, you and your entire shitty COUNTRY are TOAST. It won't be the U.S. pounding the piss out of you, it'll be China, and South Korea, and every other goddamned nation on the PLANET with a big enough military to fly over your country and unload as much high explosives as necessary to smite you all the way back to the Pleistocene.
So come on, already, you funny-looking little CUNT, PUT UP OR SHUT UP. We're sick and tired of your SHIT.
You are forgetting that the world is a sphere. The flight paths from NK to the US pass over Canada. We actually had an article in the papers here pointing this out and raising questions about how safe Canada would be if the US starts shooting down nuclear missiles over us. I believe the Seattle is closest but, looking at the map they had there did not seem to be a huge difference in distance between Los Angeles and Chicago.
The best thing is to just accept that Herr Hitler now owns Poland. He'll stop at that if only we show total weakness.
It's widely accepted in the intelligence community that Japan is nuclear capable. From what I've read they decided after the US pulled out of Vietnam that we couldn't be relied upon to defend them in a "local" conflict and decided they needed a backup plan. They have an established industry for making and refining plutonium and are currently sitting on a stockpile of ~95 tons. They're also quite capable of putting a device wherever they want. They skirt around the status by not refining the plutonium to weapons grade purity so they can legitimately say they don't have nuclear weapons but they're quite capable of doing so on short notice. Ironically, the only thing that's really keeping them from announcing that they can is their own citizens. While re-militarizing is gaining support with conservatives, nuclear weapons are still a very toxic subject that no politician would touch with a ten foot pole (and for very understandable reasons).
When is England going to send in Bond to take care of this?
It would be quite a disaster if say Los Angeles were to be nuked, but atomic bombs aren't magical weapons. Likely, a 15kT bomb lands in suburbia - or rather, detonates above it, if it doesn't fail to do so after a bad re-entry.
You wouldn't want to be there, but this would kill relatively few people. Perhaps there would even be a lot of survivors just from being in buildings made of concrete and receiving emergency broadcasts that advise to stay away from windows.
The North Koreans might also target a major naval base and miss it by a few kilometers. I don't know how populated is that area around the base. But they might need hundreds of those missiles to kill millions people as in the Terminator movies.
The best thing about the whole north/south Korea tension, is the possibility of a modern contemporary MASH 2 TV series. That would be awesome.
NK final farewell may just be launch all.
What about when a test go off course and hits something?
What happens when there is a coup or a collapse??
Now North Korea has the WMD that missed Iraq to avoid being invaded, we will see if their leader is just rationale (he is safe and can calm down) or really mad (he seeks more nuclear-related provocations).
Not worried at all.
Much more worried about cheetos going wack.
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Oh, no! Oh, no! Somebody besides America the Bestest has a nuclear device! Oh no!
Ever since Slashdot got bought up by corporate entities it has become just another tool to peddle MSM propaganda fake news. I remember when Slashdot only contained news for nerds, stuff that mattered.
NK doesn't have ICBMs - they firing IRBMs. if you listen to closely to the MSM they are only repeating what little kim says, funny the more little kim talks, the more the US geopolitical advances. I swear he has to be on the payroll of US agencies. This isn't about NK, it's all about Russia & China.
"Weapons of mass destruction" they said. "Mobile chemical weapons factories" they said. "Facts" used to plunge American, British, Australian, etc troops into war, and it all turned out to be a lie, and they knew it was.
We need to be really skeptical of anything these people produce that they use to justify sending more people to their deaths.
They are called Retardplicans
If the Baby God Dictator of the Norks really is crazy enough to attack an American city, he can do so by delivering it in a cargo container. I only hope that there are minions around him who understand that any use of a nuclear weapon will literally be the last thing that the Pyongyang regime ever does.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Kind of odd don't you think? If they had the means, they'd force the U.S. military out of SK via threats by now. Making nukes; that's what communist countries do. It's become a social normal because of all the jokes and TV. And honestly, if they aimed for Tokyo and I had a few days notice, I wouldn't waste my time trying to leave. The U.S. brings up this shit like clockwork to keep the plebs in line. They got to do something when I$I$ is on holiday.
The "puppet masters" are feeding the media publically establishing pretexts for action... like they did b4 Iraq.
The flight paths from NK to the US pass over Canada.
Although it's a pretty good reminder of what they could potentially effect, if NK is going to nuke anyone they are not going to go from Canada for sure, nor some small bean (pun intended) like Chicago.
No sir if NK were going to hit anything it would be a big flashy target like California. People have noted they can't really aim but why does anyone think that maters in the least? Even just turning a 20 square miles of CA to glass would be mission accomplished as far as NK is concerned. It's a much bigger psychological deal than blowing down a bunch of cornfields in Illinois or Iowa, and NK is all about the psyche warfare angle.
I believe the Seattle is closest
Were I NK, I wouldn't want to send any dodgy electronics down through Seattle's endless layers of rain.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Most of the US would probably just get popcorn and pizza and watch it live on tv.
No one can use nuclear weapons against any other party that has nuclear weapons. North Korea is not the insane 'shithole' that western propaganda makes it out to be. They didn't just have everything handed to them by the Soviets. It's not by blind luck that they fought off the United States and maintained independence. Have a little respect for your enemy, if that's what you choose them to be, though what threat they actually pose to the west, besides setting a 'bad example' for other would be nationalistic entities, I can't imagine. Anyway, Kim Jong Un in all likelihood has absolutely no power to unilaterally launch nuclear attacks or any other major military offensive, and even if he did, he's not crazy, no one anywhere near his position is that crazy. This nuclear stalemate situation ends in one of two ways: The first and more likely is that our insane warmongers, whipped into action by the financial institutions, push North Korea to the point where they have no future as a nationalistic entity, and decide they would rather destroy as much of the west as possible than become enslaved to the western financial system and suffer the fate of countries like Germany and Japan with dangerously declining birthrates and/or loss of national identity (chill out liberals, that's just how countries like N Korea, Iran, and others see it, whether it's objectively true or not I won't argue). The other way is if one party has a missile defense system that as of present seems nonexistent and coming no time soon. The fact of the matter is that it's extremely hard to maintain targeting on such a small object even if you know exactly where it launched from. You only have so long to intercept it before it maneuvers and very likely goes out of sight. ICBMs are not dumb bee-line things. Decoys and other countermeasures make things even harder, and of course weather is always a problem.
No one can use nuclear weapons against any other party that has nuclear weapons.
First, North Korea is not the insane 'shithole' that western propaganda makes it out to be. They didn't just have everything handed to them by the Soviets. It's not by blind luck that they fought off the United States and maintained independence. Have a little respect for your enemy, if that's what you choose them to be, though what threat they actually pose to the west, besides setting a 'bad example' for other would be nationalistic entities, I can't imagine.
Anyway, Kim Jong Un in all likelihood has absolutely no power to unilaterally launch nuclear attacks or any other major military offensive, and even if he did, he's not crazy, no one anywhere near his position is that crazy.
This nuclear stalemate situation ends in one of two ways:
The first and more likely is that our insane warmongers, whipped into action by the financial institutions, push North Korea to the point where they have no future as a nationalistic entity, and decide they would rather destroy as much of the west as possible than become enslaved to the western financial system and suffer the fate of countries like Germany and Japan with dangerously declining birthrates and/or loss of national identity (chill out liberals, that's just how countries like N Korea, Iran, and others see it, whether it's objectively true or not I won't argue).
The other way is if one party has a missile defense system that as of present seems nonexistent and coming no time soon. The fact of the matter is that it's extremely hard to maintain targeting on such a small object even if you know exactly where it launched from. You only have so long to intercept it before it maneuvers and very likely goes out of sight. ICBMs are not dumb bee-line things. Decoys and other countermeasures make things even harder, and of course weather is always a problem.
With enough confidence that we are willing to go to a war that will result in millions dead?
One bomb...maybe two or three over Pyongyang. But first make sure that Fatso is in residence there.
Shut up APK we know it is you posting this crap. It has too much in common with your style even if you do try to cover it up.
Who or what is "APK"?
IF you can believe the intel ( WMDs in Iraq anyone ? ) NK is led by a bat-shit crazy type who likes to tell the rest of the world about how they're going to be destroyed. Almost daily. :|
Since China and Russia can't be bothered to give a shit, a difficult choice has to be made. Bet they would change their tune in a hurry if Captain Bat-Shit was threatening THEM with nukes.
Wait until he actually has the capability to follow through with his threats and watch millions die*, or deal with this beforehand in which case thousands may die.**
*Assuming a single missile can get through THAAD or any number of the Aegis based ABM interceptors in the area. Doubtful.
**Depending on how quickly we can neutralize all the conventional stuff pointed at SK. I would blanket the gun emplacements with submunition cruise missiles, but it would be near impossible to get them all.
Guessing just a coincidence but this week the 72nd year since A-bombs dropped. Wonder if there was any consideration before escalating such antagonistic comments from POTUS toward N.Korea..
"US Intelligence Officials have concluded...."
We know that the intelligence community is total nonsense anyways; they failed at many things including, but not limited to:
1. Bay of Pigs
2. Predicting USSR collapse
3. WMDs in Iraq
4. Predicting Ukraine unrest
And, probably many more that I have forgotten off the top of my head.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel
who enabled this ones? why are they not discussed?
Simple, the western world is controlled by Jews and Israel.
Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media
CNN is completely overrun by Jews
The Times of Israel: Jews DO control the media
They own you.
There needs to be one solidifying reason to bring America into martial law. Its North Korea. Plan A was to remove Trump with the Russian fake news narrative. If that fails plan B is to bring in martial law and usurp Trumps entire administration with a "Continuity of Government" (COG) coup. North Korea dont have the technology to develop these missiles and if they do have them, the tech was given to them by deep state operatives.
What is the evidence that they have a fusion device?
https://web.archive.org/web/20...
"Consider millions of these devices airdropped into Iraq and Yugoslavia -- instead of more expensive cruise missiles! Anybody got $1 billion to spend on ensuring democracy with a true defense against tyranny in those places? (This is probably what the U.S. military's spends on gas/oil for a month cruising the area...) "
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.