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Google Pays Apple $3 Billion Per Year To Remain On the iPhone, Analyst Says (cnbc.com)

In a note to investors on Monday, Bernstein analyst A.M. Sacconaghi Jr. said Google is paying Apple billions of dollars per year to remain the default search engine on iPhones and iPads. "The firm believes that Google will pay Apple about $3 billion this year, up from $1 billion just three years ago, and that Google's licensing fees make up a large bulk of Apple's services business," reports CNBC. From the report: "Court documents indicate that Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014, and we estimate that total Google payments to Apple in FY 17 may approach $3 billion," Bernstein analyst A.M. Sacconaghi Jr. said. "Given that Google payments are nearly all profit for Apple, Google alone may account for 5% of Apple's total operating profits this year, and may account for 25% of total company OP growth over the last two years."

101 comments

  1. Re:you know what is free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lumpy semen stay away

  2. ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I presume G has done the ROI calculation of gaining iDevice search ad revenue, and it is estimated to have increased by more than that $3B, but I really think G would be better off letting Apple default to using Bing for a year. The Android eco-system (and the Pixel group) will love the increased customers.

    1. Re:ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better, let Apple switch to Bing. Within 2 weeks users will be screaming to change back to Google. Google says sure, for half the rate.

      There's risk, but Bing is so useless that it's almost a certainty to work.

    2. Re: ROI by nachtelfjeiu · · Score: 0

      That's exactly my analysis. On the other hand, leave it up to Apple to sell crappy alternatives as a great improvement.

    3. Re:ROI by jopsen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My guess is google is making a nice profit from this... And you don't go around gambling with you golden egg.. Especially, not on the mobil market which is and has been in huge growth..

      If bing got the traffic google has they might be able to improve search results and suddenly google might have a real competitor... That is a HUGE risk, 3B/yr is probably not that bad to offset any chance of real competition.

    4. Re: ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean honestly, not that you'd fucking want to use that SJW shit cesspool of an organization's services, but I digress.

      Aw diddums, did the nasty black and female people hurt your feelings? Take it like a man and hang yourself.

    5. Re:ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially, not on the mobil market which is and has been in huge growth.

      Mobil is an oil company which has been regularly eaten by much bigger fish over the decades. I'm sure you meant to say "mobile market."

    6. Re:ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better, let Apple switch to Bing. Within 2 weeks users will be screaming to change back to Google. Google says sure, for half the rate.

      There's risk, but Bing is so useless that it's almost a certainty to work.

      Apple probably has the resources to buy another search engine or invent their own and improve it and make a profit. It might take quite a few years to pull it off, and the ROI might be marginal, but they could probably do it. Of course then their might be antitrust issues.

      I suspect Apple will continue to stay with the best search engine and focus on their core business, particularly when they can demand such fees...

    7. Re:ROI by MouseR · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a guess when the article states 50% of all Google ad revenues come from iOS.

      Google fucked with Apple, using their privileged early access to the device & SKDs by cloning most aspects of it and try to undercut Apple's new market. They might have the numbers, but they fail at the margin. So they're stuck continuing paying Apple's license in order to monetize.

    8. Re: ROI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe his E-button is not as sensitive as it used to be, being the most common letter in the English language and all. Maybe he's Scandinavian, since "mobile" is "mobil" (moo-beel) in their languages. There are many reasons that E might be missing. But I can assure you that none of us others were thinking of an oil company given that context, and that we did not get confused, even without your corrections. Isn't it nice how individual spelling mistakes can be compensated for by using the context of the text, even when no one is explicitly explaining the spelling mistake to us?

    9. Re:ROI by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      >but I really think G would be better off letting Apple default to using Bing for a year

      Shots fired.

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  3. You are the product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The downside is that capitalism in this case serves the highest bidder for the product, and the product is not the search engine--it is your eyeballs. As a result your phone becomes optimized for its ability to sell you things, so long as it maintains an adequate level of utility. This also hurts people who are less good than you at filtering and recognizing and discounting advertisements.

    1. Re:You are the product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like television. Are you from the 50s? Or is this some commie plot? /sarc

  4. Re: you know what is free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just suck on my DAMN balls and enjoy the glorious protein

  5. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple can't make their own search engine for the same amount?

    I mean you can hire the top 500 experts on the technology to make a search engine and pay them $4 million a year and still have $1 billion left over for the required data center and computing power. If you can't have a decent Google competitor within 3 years then you suck.

    1. Re:Seriously by queazocotal · · Score: 2

      They don't want to.
      Anti-trust laws.

    2. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple has probably secretly tried and secretly sucked.

    3. Re:Seriously by jonwil · · Score: 1

      If building a decent Google competitor could be done that fast, how come Bing is still a piece of crap? Or does Microsoft simply not spend the needed money to make Bing not suck?

    4. Re: Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? But Google making a phone is OK?

    5. Re: Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess is that Microsoft's total spend on Bing technology is probably a few million dollars. The rest is on marketing.

      I bet Wikipedia which has a budget of about $2 million spends more on programmers and possibly even infrastructure than Microsoft does on Bing.

    6. Re:Seriously by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Apple can't make their own search engine for the same amount?

      Current situation: $3B in royalty - $0 in cost = $3B in profit.

      Your proposal: $3B in ad revenue - $3B in development, hosting and indexing = $0 profit.

      Of course, in reality cloning Google would cost WAY more than $3B. Google's search related operating costs are more than $20B/yr.

    7. Re: Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple does have a search engine, not exposed as a web page though. It's called Siri Search and works in both Safari address bar as well as from Spotlight. It does suck though. Many folks from Yahoo and Bing are already on the team, but it's size nothing compared to the big boys.

      The strategy seems to scare Google with switching to an alternate search engine -- so google gives more money.

    8. Re: Seriously by aberglas · · Score: 2

      What makes you think Bing is crap?

      MS definitely spends real money on it. It has got a lot better.

      And Google is not without its faults. I recently had a website W for which a *different* website X had a bad self signed cert pointing to W. Searches for W ended up pointing to X on Google. Took weeks to sort out. Bing never missed a beat.

      I'd say Google is better if you do side by side searches, but not by much. And I am certainly glad there is some competition.

    9. Re:Seriously by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      I guess there are limits to their "courage," then.

    10. Re:Seriously by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Why would Apple spend money for a service that Google is paying them to provide? Do you not have any understanding of business or economics?

    11. Re:Seriously by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      You and the GP are fucking morons. Google is paying Apple. Why the fuck would Apple spend a cent on a replacement?

    12. Re: Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It isn't Apple paying Google, it's Google paying Apple.

      Specifically , Apple has taken a position to not monetize their customer's as product - kinds of hard to put do Google if that is your starting point

    13. Re:Seriously by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 1

      How many times has this been tried and resulted in total failure? Search engines, social media sites, self-driving cars, even operating systems. Poaching top talent and throwing money at the problem doesn't necessarily mean you can produce a viable alternative.

    14. Re: Seriously by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Really? But Google making a phone is OK?

      But Google hardly sells any phones. Probably on purpose, to avoid anti-trust investigations.

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    15. Re:Seriously by Junta · · Score: 1

      Your proposal: $3B in ad revenue - $3B in development, hosting and indexing = $0 profit.

      Well, actually, that shouldn't be the case.

      Presumably there's more revenue than that, else Google probably wouldn't do it.

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    16. Re:Seriously by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Apple can't make their own search engine for the same amount?

      You mean make one for negative three billion dollars? That'd be a good trick.

  6. Pay up, Google by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or we will switch our users to Apple Maps. And you will never see any of us again.

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    1. Re:Pay up, Google by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course they won't. We'll all be dead in the middle of Australia.

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    2. Re:Pay up, Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I remember correctly Australia pulled their contributions to Open Street Map when the license was changed from "public" to "Corporations steal from the public and give to themselves". Change of license permitted Apple to take OSM and replace Google map on ios.

    3. Re:Pay up, Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they won't. We'll all be dead in the middle of Australia.

      Unlikely. As an Australian I can honestly say Siri wants to drown us because she keeps routing to addresses in England and Europe instead of the requested address just a couple of suburbs away. She's never been able to make sense of simple requests like "Hey Siri, play music by Björk" so this isn't surprising.

    4. Re:Pay up, Google by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      And you will never see any of us again.

      That's because you're all lost

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    5. Re:Pay up, Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Apple Maps all the time and have never had an issue with it. 2012 wants it's joke back.

    6. Re:Pay up, Google by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Of course they won't. We'll all be dead in the middle of Australia.

      Bloody hell, not again.

      Bruce, start digging another hole.

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    7. Re:Pay up, Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2012 wants it's joke back.

      And its apostrophe.

  7. If I were Google, I wouldn't pay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Look, let's be honest here. If Yahoo or Bing were the default search engine on the iPhone, everyone would have already switched to Android by now.

  8. Why??? by itamblyn · · Score: 0

    If google wasn't the default, what search engine would iOS users actually use? My guess would be google. What other option is there? Bing? Yahoo? This sounds like a waste of 3 billion for Google.

    1. Re:Why??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duckduckgo works fine...

    2. Re:Why??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This sounds like a waste of 3 billion for Google.

      Unless it is actually for something else (keeping patent lawsuits at bay, for example).

    3. Re: Why??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Siri search, just google for it :)

  9. OR by sit1963nz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google knows it will more than make up the $3 Billion from Apple users so it is willing to spend that money.

    It has been shown time and time again that Apple users are more willing to buy stuff, therefore the ads to Apple users are worth more to Google and the people who place the adverts.

    1. Re:OR by sd4f · · Score: 2

      I agree, I've read articles from a few years ago that based on spend, advertising on apple was most profitable, while advertising on android returned a net loss (i.e. don't recover the cost of advertising). This is where apple really got it right; premium product with premium customers. Android might have market share, but reality is, most of the users are worthless.

    2. Re: OR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I kind of like companies like that.... you know... I really dislike insurance agencies giving their staff annual "retreats" to exotic destinations... premium "premiums" for premium service ;) The only premium service they provide is to help you navigate bureaucratic claims process.

      Ferrari makes premium cars for premium dollar, but really it's the mass market car companies that contribute more to mankind.

      It's fine, both have their role.... I just like one better than the other....

    3. Re:OR by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Android might have market share, but reality is, most of the users are worthless.

      It's advertising to people who understand that they have a choice that's worthless.

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    4. Re: OR by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Ferrari makes premium cars for premium dollar, but really it's the mass market car companies that contribute more to mankind.

      It's fine, both have their role.... I just like one better than the other....

      I'm not quite sure what your point is - Apple's world wide marketshare in computers, would make them 2nd or 3rd of the mass market car companies. In smartphones share there would even be a competition.

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    5. Re:OR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That actually might work in favor of Android users - being a less valuable "market" must mean Android users can be expect to get bombarded with less ads than iPhart users

  10. Fake bidding war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Bernstein analyst A.M. Sacconaghi Jr....Bernstein has an outperform rating on Apple with a price target of $175."

    I'm not convinced, there's no reason for the fee to triple. It sounds like Apple ARE shopping around, and trying to convince MS to pay more than $3 Billion for the search rights, and this is part of that marketing. Or perhaps it's just Bernstein trying to hype up the stock.

    Either way, he would have no special knowledge of the contract and his claim of tripling while Apple's market share is falling sounds false.

  11. dump goolagle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    replace with duckduckgo

    1. Re:dump goolagle by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      replace with duckduckgo

      DuckDuckGo is one of the built-in options with iOS - I've got it set as my default search engine.

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    2. Re:dump goolagle by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The four current options (in the US, anyway) for Safari's search engine are:

      Google (default)
      Yahoo
      Bing
      DuckDuckGo

      I can't imagine Yahoo will be there much longer. And DuckDuckGo is relatively new - I don't believe it was there prior to iOS 8 (although I used to manually add it on my jail broken devices).

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    3. Re:dump goolagle by SNRatio · · Score: 1

      Now THAT would make an interesting fight - and is probably closer to the reason Apple is getting paid $B.Google doesn't have to worry about Bing, but if a nice chunk of its market was "encouraged" to become an expense rather than a profitable resource - that would hit hard. I don't know if it would even actually be DuckDuckGo - I could see Apple making or sponsoring its own version.

    4. Re:dump goolagle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, unfortunately the choices are getting worse as Google pulls away from the pack.

      - Bing is a warm turd with a dollop of whipped cream and fancy sprinkles on top. Bing it!

      - Yahoo is for old people only. They should just change their logo to a tombstone with a "Y" on top instead of a cross.

      - DDG had a chance to be interesting but now the only thing it has going for it is that it's a warm body that provides the semblance of competition. Nothing wrong with that but there's certainly nothing special or innovative about their results. It can't be used for serious work (e.g. dumping error messages into it and getting actual relevant answers), but it's fine for searching celeb news.

      So the reality is that Google is king and will be for the foreseeable future. Just hope they don't go to Windows-10-super-evil level anytime soon. Some would argue they already but that's probably just hyperbolic. Google still has plenty of opt-out options in place.

    5. Re: dump goolagle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both yahoo and duckduckgo use bing for search. So the options are only 2 - google and bing

    6. Re: dump goolagle by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Both yahoo and duckduckgo use bing for search. So the options are only 2 - google and bing"

      Untrue:https://duck.co/help/results/sources

    7. Re:dump goolagle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple has good relationships with China, so if they want to get really disruptive they could put an English optimized version of Baidu. That would put a shockwave in US tech. Also, Amazon probably has some pretty advanced search tech that's currently being underutilized.

    8. Re: dump goolagle by gitano_dbs · · Score: 1

      Partially true, reading your link:

      "In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we source from Bing, Yahoo, and Yandex."

  12. Re: Break up Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you even know if you're dis/agreeing with The Point?

  13. Re: Break up Apple by sheramil · · Score: 1

    You're joking right?

    If any company deserves to be broken up, it's Microsoft.

    Apple is larger than Microsoft, so why not break up Apple first, and see how it goes?

  14. Re: you know what is free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just suck on my DAMN balls and enjoy the glorious protein

    If your balls were full of protein, your fag lover would be the Hulk

  15. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all we know, Google may be making more via Apple products than Android.

    I am pretty sure they aren't blowing $3 billion a year on Android. At least I hope not .. it's certainly not showing.

    1. Re: Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be a huge amount per iPhone user.

    2. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google may be making more via Apple products than Android.

      I thin this has been true for years.

  16. Re: Break up Apple by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Larger by profits but still a small player when talking about marketshare, so they're nowhere near a monopoly which AFAIK is the only thing that can be used by law to split up a company.

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  17. Ah! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    Nice to get an inside look at how the invisible hand helps the market decide.

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  18. Re: Break up Apple by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple is larger than Microsoft, so why not break up Apple first, and see how it goes?

    Bigness is not a problem in itself. Only abuse of monopoly power. Apple is nowhere close to a monopoly in any market.

  19. Damn it by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    My wife is on the iphone all year long too, and she doesn't get paid a cent :(

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    1. Re: Damn it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Has she tried CAM4?

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  20. Re: Break up Apple by aberglas · · Score: 1

    So how much does Google pay Microsoft to be allowed to be the dominant search engine on Windows?

    $0.00

    Interesting that Apple can, in practice, decide which engine its users' use. The way of the future I'm afraid.

  21. Apple also seems to help Google track us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple may also be helping Google track users. I signed up for a trial of YouTubeTV on iOS, and my login magically appeared in Google Maps even though I’ve never logged into Google Maps before. Shocking

    And of course, there’s the Google-owned Waze app that can (and will) track you even when it’s not running. Even if you’ve killed it. Why does Apple let that happen? A: $$$$$

    1. Re:Apple also seems to help Google track us by Dog-Cow · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are you on? That's the "magic" of a shared keychain, as any reasonable general-purpose, user-interactive OS has these days.

      As for Waze, you're just a piece of shit which knows nothing.

    2. Re:Apple also seems to help Google track us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you still using Google apps if Google makes that happen? A: You're dumb.

  22. And I still use DuckDuckGo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're wasting your money Google.

  23. Re: Break up Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple has a market share of around 15% in phones and less than 5% in laptops and desktop computers. On what grounds could they be broken up?

  24. Re: Break up Apple by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    Because M$ is evil and the enemy of all geeks and Apple isn't?

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  25. Re: Break up Apple by Dog-Cow · · Score: 0

    What kind of shit are you? All the popular browsers have a default. On iOS, you have a choice of 4, including DuckDuckGo. On mac os, you have the same options.

  26. Re:apple would be dead without google apps by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

    I very rarely use any maps app on my phone. Neither Apple nor Google Maps. My goto app is Waze. I suppose Google could pull the iOS version, but Google could also blow up its HQ with explosives.

  27. So clearly Google makes money on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Google can pay that much you know they are more then making that up. Being default is very important considering how many people would never bother to change it. In the US you could switch to Bing and never miss Google search. But beyond the US Google still rules the search engine space and does so because they pay to play.

  28. Re:you know what is free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does a person get protein from sucking your balls? Do your balls have a leak?

  29. So 20 years after by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1
    So 20 years after Microsoft, Google has to save Apple now. Doomed.

    He said in jest.

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  30. Re: Break up Apple by Junta · · Score: 1

    I don't use iOS, so I don't know if the default search engine is readily changed, however...

    Windows defaults to Bing and Edge. No one cares about the defaults and quickly changes it over to something else because it's trivial to do. Google does not pay MS probably due to some combination of:
    1) MS won't do it for any price because they want Bing to suceed
    2) Google already *knows* how ineffective having the default in Windows seems to be from evidence, so it's not worth much

    With iOS, it's a big unknown. Google is not sure how much the loyalty to search engine will carry over in a mobile device where the search engine branding is somewhat mitigated and in general settings are a bit more tucked out of the way than desktop. Apple doesn't even pretend to have a horse in the race of search (yet), so they are perfectly willing to sell their default to the highest bidder for now.

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  31. Re:Good for Apple employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything that takes money away from Google is good. Those lying, data-harvesting, privacy-invading, non-innovating, idea-stealing, SJW sacks of shit need to go out of business fast.

  32. they should stop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't give apple money. yahoo and MS should also not give apple money. let apple figure it out for themselves.

  33. Re: Break up Apple by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    Windows defaults to Bing and Edge. No one cares about the defaults and quickly changes it over to something else because it's trivial to do. Google does not pay MS probably due to some combination of:
    1) MS won't do it for any price because they want Bing to suceed
    2) Google already *knows* how ineffective having the default in Windows seems to be from evidence, so it's not worth much

    3) Microsoft is not allowed to.

    Remember, Microsoft was found to be a monopoly and an abusive one at that, so they are looked at far more closely than anyone else, including Google and Apple (once a monopoly, always a monopoly).

    About the worst Microsoft could do was offer cheap Windows licenses to those OEMs who do not change the defaults of Bing and IE - it was called Windows 8.1 with Bing. It was basically a free copy of Windows for low cost PCs.

    OEMs were free to take it up, or pay for a regular Windows license - perhaps some OEMs struck deals with Google to make Google the default search provider, Chrome the default browser on their Windows installations. And yes, I've seen PCs like that with preinstalled Chrome and Google as default.

    Google doesn't pay Microsoft, Google pays PC OEMs.

  34. But Bing is the default... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they looking to change it in iOS 11? Because Bing has been the default for a long time now...

  35. Re: you know what is free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i would rather bend you over and inject my rock hard 9.5 inch long, 8 inch circumference cock deep into your tight virgin ass until i blow my load inside of your bowels. don't worry i will allow you suck the feces, blood and semen off of my cock afterwards.

  36. some one should tell them... by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    my last two iPhone and this iPad both defaulted to bing... everything Siri does has the powered by Bing logo... have to explicitly say "search google" to get her to do it

  37. Reasoning? by iampiti · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see Google's reasons for this. I don't believe they think a significant number of people would choose something else if they didn't pay. Or maybe most people are so lazy or care so little that they would leave whatever the default search engine was.

  38. They are paying to exclude Bing by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    This is not money for access but rather to make sure Bing can't have the default spot.

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  39. Re: Break up Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, it is. Following Microsoft's example, if you become big first and then abuse your monopoly power, the government won't have the financial resources to enforce the law and bring you to justice. Re: USDoJ vs. Microsoft. Fail. Fail. Fail.

  40. The Value of People's Private Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Three billion dollars per year? Wow. Given that no company ever does anything unless it makes them money, is there anyone left who still thinks there is no value in collecting every person's private information and selling it to whomever will pay?

    These days it seems the only way to exercise one's right to privacy is to disconnect from the internet, avoid any and all rewards and miles programs, pay for everything in cash, and live in a cave. How did this happen to the United States of America?