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wjcofkc writes: The last time I was a serious gamer, I was playing Quake and Quake World. That type of first person shooter, with the qualities it offered in terms of physics, level layout, and community, produced for me some very fun times. I have long since fallen away from gaming entirely, but frequently look back to that era with great fondness. My question to the community is, are there any current games that recapture the spirit of the original Quake? Note: This is strictly for PC gaming as I do not own a console.

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  1. Nothing by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'll never have that kind of fun again playing computer games, because you're not 19 anymore.

    I know because I went ahead and played the games I played when I was young, and it's just not as fun anymore. Games haven't changed, I have.

    1. Re:Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah he shouldn't bother trying to have fun with things he enjoyed before, it didn't work for you anymore so why would anyone else bother?

      In actual response to the question : Doom 2016 or Quake Champions

    2. Re:Nothing by Bigbutt · · Score: 3, Informative

      It depends. I"ve picked up the original Doom series, Half-Life 2, Carmagedden, and Starcraft Remastered and still have a good time with them. I've picked up the newer versions of these games like Doom, Wolfenstein, and Starcraft II and even other games like Left4Dead, Fallout, and Bioshock and just don't find them as mindlessly fun. Even jumping across from tower to tower in Doom still gives me a thrill. :)

      Hell, Steam is having a sale again. Quake, Quake II, Quake III Arena, and Quake III: Team Arena are up for $1.24 or $3.24 each. Shoot, for $6.24, you can get Quake, Quake II, Quake II Mission Pack: Ground Zero, Quake II Mission Pack: The Reckoning, Quake III Arena, Quake III: Team Arena, Quake Mission Pack I: Scourge of Armagon, Quake Mission Pack 2: Dissolution of Eternity. (I know what I'm getting right now :D ).

      Why not keep playing what you like? :)

      [John]

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    3. Re:Nothing by Bigbutt · · Score: 2

      Hah. A Bethesda Softworks Classics Superbundle has that plus the original Wolfenstein 3D, Heretic, and quite a few others I recognize :) Big snag and lots of "wasted time" this weekend :)

      [John]

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    4. Re:Nothing by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > Games haven't changed, I have.

      Yes they HAVE changed -- often times for the worse. FPS Map Design 1993 vs 2010

      Modern games are full of bullshit:

      * unskippable cut-scenes
      * MTX (micro-transaction) because the game devs don't respect your Time, Space, nor Wallet.
      * Season Pass
      * bullshit DLC (DownLoadable Content)
      * QTE (Quick-Time Events) You remember Dragon's Lair ? Yup, that's what modern "AAA" gaming has devolved into.
      * Grindfests aka Skinner boxes
      * Flat UI that you can't fucking tell what are UI elements you can interact with vs static elements.
      * Multiplayer games that don't allow you to run your own server -- typical EA bullshit.

      When the "gaming industry" refers to its customers as "whales" you know they don't give a fuck about you -- only how long they can keep "milking" you. If you wat to know the general state of the "industry" Jim Sterling excellent Jimquisition pretty much sucks up the fuckery that publishers and devs try to pull.

      With that said I'm a professional game developer and have over 500+ games in my Steam Library. This is my "best of the best" of modern games are in alphabetical order (I've included the "genre" in parenthesis):

      * Borderlands 1 and 2 (FPS)
      * Dishonored 1 and 2 (FPS)
      * Doom (2017) (FPS)
      * Elite: Dangerous (Space)
      * Inside (Adventure)
      * Left for Dead (1 not 2) (FPS)
      * Limbo (Adventure)
      * Luftrausers (2D shmup)
      * Minecraft (3D Survival)
      * Path of Exile (RPG)
      * Portal 1 and 2 (Puzzle)
      * Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 and 2
      * Serious Sam 1, 2, and 3 (FPS)
      * Terraria (2D Survival)
      * Team Fortress 2 (FPS)
      * The Stanley Parable (Story)
      * The Talos Principle (FPS)
      * The Vanishing of Ethan Carter (Puzzle)
      * The Witness (Puzzle)
      * Torchlight 1 and 2 (RPG)

      Stay away from grind-shift-fests like:

      * Defiance
      * Destiny
      * Diablo 3
      * Evolve
      * Fashionframe, er, Warframe

      There are still some good games out there -- but about 95% of them are shit. i.e. Any game that has non-cosmetic MTX is crap.

    5. Re:Nothing by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Some things have improved. Fights seem much better in Skyrim. But lots of nice stuff was removed, like richer dialogs or the very ability of the hero to influence the world substantially.

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  2. if Quake is considered "old school" by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    then no.

    1. Re:if Quake is considered "old school" by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

      when I got quake I ran it from dos in 320x240 on a 486DX2, its pretty old school

  3. Portal by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm in the same boat, played it all in the 90s and hadn't played anything since Half Life, until Portal 1 a couple years back. It was everything I wanted in a game, I played it for about two weeks an hour or so after work, between plays I couldn't wait going back to it. That's not terribly modern but there you go. Someday I will play Portal 2 too.

  4. I played the demo by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am now 40 and bad news. I can't play anymore. My reflexes have remarkingly slowed down terribly. I am done before I see what is up. I get confused and pause on maps too for a good 1/6th of a second too. I am not really out of it like I am 80, but that one 1/6th of a second pause where I wonder where I am on the map and look around is enough for someone to run a rail in the back of my head.

    I am not 23 anymore so I gave up on FPS. You can try but the young kids today will 0wn you as they have 200% faster reflexes

    If you want to do something fun us old farts do MMOs like SWTOR (star wars the old republic) and or Elder scrolls online based on based on Skyrim. Man this is depressing

    1. Re:I played the demo by pcjunky · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those who reflexes are too slow for twitch shooters there is Mech Warrior online.

      BTW: Your reflexes will return pretty quickly if you give a little time. I am 57 and still play Counter Strike.

  5. Re:game within a game within a game by war4peace · · Score: 2

    No, don't. Seriously.
    It's a politics-rife, asshole-filled, scumbag-overflowing cesspool.
    Would be nice as a single-player with bots though, if that would exist.

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  6. Re:Tons by war4peace · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a difference between "old-school" and "primitive".
    Banging a hollowed tree trunk with a bone isn't old-school music.

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  7. The Old Ones by hduff · · Score: 2

    Most all the old ones can run under WINE, PlayOnLinux, and Crossover, or they have a modern, multi-platform game engine and hires textures. I'm getting my friend set up to play Quake using the Darkplaces engine for MS-Windows and with hi-res textures. As awesome as Quake seemed in 1996, it is even more awesome now. It is impressive that fans of these classic games have kept after them all these years. It seems that those games were just that good. Many are still available for purchase from vendors like GOG.com and Steam if you have misplaced your original CDs.

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  8. Overwatch & Faster Than Light by sursurrus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Overwatch - It's a relatively casual fun shooter, playable on a nongaming pc, and there's a balancing system so you are playing in games with people of roughly your skill level.

    FTL - A cheap and fun Steam game, relateable to old-school sci-fi fans, a full game can be played through in 2-3 hours (or 20 minutes if you're a speedrunner). I have gotten over 100 hours of entertainment out of it, from my initial investment of $10 during a sale.

  9. lowest common denominator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a person who also grew up in the same time, built my own PC's back then (I miss my AMD K6-2 and Athlon) and continues to causally game today (and continues to build my own pc's) the issue with gamming today is virtually all the games worth causally playing are designed to run on laptop hardware. League of legends, TF2, Overwatch, SC2, These are all games you can sit down at not have to worry about remembering were you were in the story since you last touched it a month ago and play for 30 min to an hr. (you really have more than 2 solid hrs to dedicate to gameing as a 40yo?)

    Buy a $300 bare bones kit, stick a $300 video card in it and you'll have a gameing PC that will do 95% of what you want. (you'll spend another $1500 chasing that last 5%)

  10. Xonotic by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    Modern FPS based on DP engine and tons of fun servers with modified game plays. http://www.xonotic.org/

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  11. Did no one play Starseige: Tribes? by dvsDave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I spent a good year on that game. Best FPS of it's day.

  12. Submitter Here - Quake Champions by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

    Going through the comments so far, I took a look at Quake Champions. Just what I have been wanting. Now we will see how my own personal age factor affects the enjoy ability.

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    1. Re:Submitter Here - Quake Champions by wjcofkc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Update: Damn I did not expect so many hoops just to download and install a game. I really am getting old. Back in my day...

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  13. Old school and off-the-wall by techno-vampire · · Score: 2

    If you want old time FPS fun without worrying about such details as what's plausible, try out Redneck Rampage, the expansion pack Redneck Rampage: Suckin' Grits on Route 66 and the sequel Redneck Rampage Rides Again! Lots of surrealistic violence at several different difficulty levels. Yes, the clipping's a tad careless so that if you kill somebody behind a barrier their arm might stick through, but for me, at least, that just adds to the charm. Written for DOS, it plays under Windows, or in DOSBox, and if you're running Linux, it works just fine under Wine.

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  14. Overwatch by rutabagaman · · Score: 2

    The kids are in to Overwatch for FPS these days, but if you've been out of PC gaming for a while you might want to check out Bioshock. Single player only, but even my wife was hooked after playing for 5 minutes.

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  15. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    Dragon Age (any) and Mass Effect 1-3 (skip Andromeda, buggy mess). Pilliars of Eternity, Tyranny and Divinity Original Sin. Torchlight I&II, The Adventures of Van Helsing. Street Fighter 4 (not 5), Injustice & Mortal Kombat 9/10. Ys, Xanadu Next or pretty much anything from Nihon Falcom. Sonic & Sega Racing Transformed (great game, lousy title). Cave Story, Momodora I-IV, Freedom Planet, Shadow Complex, Rayman Origins. Fire Pro Wrestling.

    I'm mostly a "PC Console Gamer" to be fair. My bro's a strategy gamer and there's something of a renaissance going on if you've got the cash (the games are usually about $60-$100 if you buy the expansions, and you will buy the expansions). But I can't speak to those.

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  16. Starcraft by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 2
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  17. Re:Doom (2016) - Completely Agree! by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 2

    Doom (2016) is a very much a modern interpretation of old school shooters like Quake - way more than other modern FPSs like CoD, BF, Halo, etc. It captured the over the top speed, action, fun factor, etc. perfectly and the changes they introduced fit perfectly. The new Wolfenstein is also quite good, but I enjoyed the new Doom more.

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  18. Your Experience Isn't Everyones by skam240 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The average age of a gamer in 2016 was 35. http://essentialfacts.theesa.c... . I realize that what constitutes a gamer can differ widely based on who you ask but what this assuredly says in that adults play lots of games.

    In other words getting older does not equal too old for video games. Sure, your personal tastes have changed over time, mine have too. I have no use for pro sports anymore and I used to love that stuff when I was a kid. Some one starts rattling off team and player names at me now and my eyes just glaze over. (My favorite is when some one asks me if I caught "the game" last night. What the hell are you even talking about?) Do I think pro sports are childish and for kids? Of course not, tons of adults enjoy them. Pro sports just arent to my taste.

    I still enjoy video games however and am well into being a responsible adult (although I have less time for them nowadays :( ). Don't confuse your own experience with everyone's reality.

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  19. Indie Games by snookiex · · Score: 2

    There are really good modern old-school games made by indie developers/studios. The Humble Bundle is a good way to start. Here is a somewhat outdated list of bundles. Many of those games can be bought on Steam too.

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  20. Urban Terror by dkman · · Score: 2

    cross platform and free. cant beat that with a stick.
    http://www.urbanterror.info/ho...

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