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We're Eating Plastics From Our Own Dirty Laundry (vice.com)
Every time you wash your fleece jacket or other synthetic clothing, microscopic synthetic fibres are released and end up in our food supply and drinking water. From a report: These microfibres are so small -- visible only under a microscope -- that they bypass municipal filtration systems and are consumed by fish and other marine life. A team of women from Waterloo, Ontario is looking to solve that problem. They've designed something that looks a lot like a dryer sheet for your laundry machine. You'd be able to drop this reusable sheet, called PolyGone, into the laundry machine with your dirty clothes. It attracts and traps the microfibres so they can be recycled. They presented their work at the annual AquaHacking conference at the University of Waterloo on Wednesday. "With these fibres entering our food system and ending up on our plates, we are essentially eating polluted laundry," said co-founder Lauren Smith at the conference. The event saw five teams, including hers, compete for tens of thousands of dollars and entry into several local incubators and accelerator centres. Smith has a Masters degree in sustainability management from UW, specializing in water.
Are these microscopic fibers detrimental? The article doesn't mention any health risks, just that they are ending up in the water supply. I would like to know what it is we're panicking about.
I am sure the fish eat all sorts of things we find gross, like poop and garbage.
Is there any real risk to people eating a fish that has eaten a fish that has eaten a sea thing that at the invisible plastic?
Your digestive system does, though.
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Sounds like they just pass straight through the digestive system to waste, just like other numerous toxins and junk components of things you eat that don't have nutritive value.
Is there evidence that any of these residual plastic bits that get through the water filters are actually harmful?
Your digestive system does, though.
Serious question.. How? What about small plastic fibers is a problem as they go though my digestive tract?
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Really? These microfibers end up in musculature of the fish that we eat?
Or do the fibers just end up getting pooped out of their digestive track?
Maybe she can make a filter to recycle the fish poop before bottom feeders eat the fish poop which are then eaten by other fish OMG!
Have we really gotten this stupid as a society?
That sheet is great and all but how do we get it to be used on a large scale? We have a hard enough time getting people to believe that significantly altering our planet's atmosphere is a bad thing, how are we going to get people on board with this?
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Mmm more fiber than a bran muffin.
Show me the evidence that consuming these "microscopic bits of plastic and fiber" is harmful in any way.
Plastic is not inert, It really should not be used for food packaging. It leeches chemicals into your food - the worst of which is plasticizers which make plastic soft (vs. the old brittle plastics of the 60's) plasticizers mimic hormones (which regulate most of your autonomous functions) this can screw up many of the normal functions in your body, in addition to causing cancer.
http://www.salon.com/2005/05/27/plastics_and_boys/
My brother ate paste as a kid. Don't know the validity of that, but there is something you now know.
This comes across as yet another scare article with the dual purpose of keeping the masses terrified of the world around them and to hopefully sell this new product that is coming out.
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When I was little I probably accidentally swollowed, and pooped out tens of pennies, dimes, screws, nuts. Unless it's going to leech a chemical that mimics hormones, or heavy metals typically it just goes right through you, along with all the other undigestible parts of your food, like bone fragments, egg shell fragments, bugs, dirt, rocks... you do realize the human digestive system was designed to eat raw meat in an open field, right?
Yeah our digestive systems these days are a bit more sensitive because they almost exclusively eat processed, cooked foods, but your body is well designed to handle things that aren't edible.
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No to the design. But I realize it evolved that way, yeah.
It's not our fault you're retarded.
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To think that Don Henley was right all this time...
"You don't really need to find out what's going on.
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone.
Just leave well enough alone. Eat your dirty laundry"
Don't the two both just pass through your digestive tract and on out? I don't see the big deal - if it just passed through and isn't getting absorbed or cause problems, why worry about it? Or is there some confirmed research that shows it's a problem somehow?
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
You don't understand the environmentalist religion at all.
Unless it's going to leech a chemical that mimics hormones,
I think that's the major concern here. Plasticizers mimicking estrogen, etc. Either we eat them directly and suffer the consequences. Or fish eat them and they interfere with their growth/reproduction cycles and we get fewer fish. Or gay fish.
The answer isn't so much to get plastics out of the environment as it is to get these specific components out of the plastics. You will probably absorb far more weird chemicals from your food packaging then from particles that you consume from the environment.
Have gnu, will travel.
...typically it just goes right through you, along with all the other undigestible parts of your food, like bone fragments, egg shell fragments, bugs, dirt, rocks...
What's wrong with eating bugs?
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
polymer polymore polyman,, organs growing on our outsides,, moms, kids sick all the time (upper respiratory & skin tissue issues etc.... phewww cease fire stand down.. scratch along.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wmd+morgellons+weather+fibers
That article is about a softening agent which is banned in consumer products in the USA, so not a concern in my backyard.. Anything else?
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The machine that does the washing, or the machine that does the drying?
Fish ingest the microfibers.
You eat the fish.
The microfibers collect in your testicles and bind with sperm.
You ejaculate this into your plastic RealDoll.
You recycle your RealDoll and it is used to make microfiber cloth.
The circle of life is complete.
I used to care, but not after my brain was damaged from plastic.
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> your fleece jacket or other synthetic clothing,
Fleece's come from sheep.
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Small particles can lodge in your intestinal vaginations and such, whereas large things will pass through. A lot of weird stuff happens when things change size and shape. For example: L-Methamphetamine causes vasoconstriction and acts as a nasal decongestant; D-Methamphatemaine tilts a Methyl group toward the other side of the molecule, and so ends up binding to NET and DAT, entering the DAT and forcing dopamine out of the vacuole and into your brain, revving up your serotonin system, and generally screwing your brain all up. The 2,4-methyldioxy version (bind essentially H2CO2 to the phenyl ring) activates kappa-opioid receptors, makes you hallucinate, and excites your serotonin system to toxicity.
These aren't chemical reactions; these chemicals fit into the receptors by their shape, and stop affecting you when an enzyme alters their chemical structure to make them no longer fit. They don't change chemical structure to apply their effects, but rather they physically interact with neurons.
Come up from molecular-scale stuff and you get titanium oxide. Inhale a pea-size chunk and cough it out, no big deal (assuming you can cough the little rock out of your lung). Grind it up into a powder, you can rub it across your skin--no big deal. Grind it down to a nanometer-wide particle and it enters the cells, where it absorbs ultra-violet radiation and re-radiates the energy inside the cell, causing DNA damage.
Consider swallowing a penny versus a stranded copper wire ... or a pin.
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So we just take this sheet out of the laundry, give it a quick rinse under the faucet and it's good to reuse? Genius!
Quantities.
Serious question.. How? What about small plastic fibers is a problem as they go though my digestive tract?
http://system.suny.edu/system-...
Microplastics affect different aspects of the environment. They can affect fish, birds and other wildlife who may ingest the plastics, causing internal blockage, dehydration and death in these species.
Microplastics can also transport other pollutants. They absorb pollutants already in the water, such as DDT, polyaromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) and polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs). When ingested by wildlife or humans (either directly or indirectly), these plastics contain high concentrations of these dangerous toxins which can become even more concentrated and dangerous as they bioaccumulate in the food chain.
http://digitalcommons.salve.ed...
Some consequences of micro plastic ingestion that have been found in fish include reduced reproductive ability,
decreased feeding ability, abnormal behavior and death.25
Hey now that you are afraid of plastic nano fibers let me sell you an all 100% organic natural hemlock based colon cleansing detox treatment. It's all natural, nature made like cobra venom -- how can it possibly cause harm?
You don't understand that environmentalism is not a religion, since it's based on - you know - science?
Not researchers, or scientists, or even interested persons... But simply 'women'. Are we to assume then that their primary qualification is their gender? (Yes I would have the same beef if it had been written as 'a team of men')
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Is there evidence that any of these residual plastic bits that get through the water filters are actually harmful?
Obesity in children has tripled over the last 35 years, and we have NO IDEA what is causing this. Fingers have been pointed at HFCS, but there is no known causative correlation, and countries with low fructose consumption have seen the same climb in obesity. People have also blamed "inactivity", but that is just circular logic. Why have people become less active? Things like "larger portion sizes" may explain a 5-10% rise, but not 200%.
So does plastics, pseudo-estrogens, and other gunk in our diet have something to do with it? Maybe, or maybe not, but scientists have been wildly wrong before about what constitutes a healthy diet, and we are missing something that is having a really big effect on people's lives.
Plastics are not particularly healthy for multiple reasons. For example, they are good at adsorbing heavy metals and other contaminants and slowly releasing them. Or they can get accumulate inside cells, causing mutations (more cancer risk).
Why not sell the technology in bulk to municipal water treatment facilities and let them remove the plastic microfibers before the water is discharged? They already have to deal with the issue of biosolids from wastewater. They would be more apt to recycle the end product as opposed to home users who would be more likely to throw them away than to recycle them.
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Well, if you want to eat bug shit, more power to you, but that gets a big NOPE from me.
Just remember it wasn't long ago that San Francisco passed a law that banned microbeads. I seem to recall it was a few kilos of microbeads that were supposed to reach the bay each day. MEANWHILE, tons of microfibers have been washing into her bay daily from everyone's Patagonia jackets and yoga pants.
Eating much more food than a body needs causes obesity. There is no other cause.
Is it?
Most beliefs can have nuggets of truth. Doesn't mean it's not a religion.
Gaia anyone?
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Maybe because we're less active than we used to be? My father, in his 80s still used to walk 5-6 miles a day. When he got alzheimer's disease nurses aids kept quitting because he wanted to go for a stroll after breakfast and lunch everyday. These strolls were slow 1.5 hour walks.
How many kids do you know barely get off the couch?
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Make a filter for the water company itself. It could be paid for via the utility bill/tax (depending on how your water is handled). It seems like it would be far more effective than making each person have to buy a filter.
Obesity in children has tripled over the last 35 years, and we have NO IDEA what is causing this.
Inactivity. That simple.
People have also blamed "inactivity", but that is just circular logic. Why have people become less active?
Not because they're pudgy. Maybe if they're morbidly obese.
The reasons why kids are being inactive today versus 30 years ago are the interactive video systems, and much more importantly, society's fear of kidnappers. Kids 30 years ago used to wander the neighborhoods or woods with friends. Occasionally one might get hurt, and it might make the local news, but once national news started the sensationalism cycle, parents freaked out and made sure their kids were inside doing safe things like video games. 20 years ago kids were still walking to each others' houses to play video games with each other. 15 years ago, kids stopped leaving their houses and were playing together over the 'net. Pokemon Go briefly changed some of this. Now Pokemon Go is all adults getting their nostalgia fix.
And dosage is totally irrelevant here? How many neuron receptors do you have. What is the mechanism and bioaccumulation rate? What is the binding energy involved?
Also your titanium dioxide example made no sense. I know the EU is paranoid about titanium.dioxide being a carcinogen but there is no proof the effect you describe is the cause. First if it can enter a cell, it doesn't necessary mean it will latch on somewhere and stay forever. Second if it absorbs and reradiates, unless two photon absorption effects are involved (titanium dioxide? they aren't), the energy is lower than UV. In fact by absorbing the UV it is protecting the cell from DNA damage. This is the same strategy uses by melanin to prevent cancer.
My point is that unless you know the answers to the questions I posed OR you have strong and convincing correlation statistics then it makes no sense to get paranoid about something because then you would be paranoid about everything.
I don't eat seafood, so I'd like to know if this only applies to seafood.
Is there evidence that any of these residual plastic bits that get through the water filters are actually harmful?
Given that you were already connected to the Internet, not looking this up is just plain lazy.
Here is your evidence. I chose it out of 254,000 Google results for "Plastic mimics estrogen" because it is hosted by the U.S. National Institutes of Health as opposed to a partisan site.
Obesity in children has tripled over the last 35 years, and we have NO IDEA what is causing this.
Inactivity. That simple.
Inactivity and massive amounts of carbohydrates. That simple.
The reasons why kids are being inactive today versus 30 years ago are the interactive video systems, and much more importantly, society's fear of kidnappers. Kids 30 years ago used to wander the neighborhoods or woods with friends...but once national news started the sensationalism cycle, parents freaked out and made sure their kids were inside doing safe things like video games
30 years ago, kids were in greater danger being in the house than outside it.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
And this is bad, because? The universe is a giant machine. Once upon a time, the iron in blood was a heavy metal. These metals encode memories. Sometimes things get out of hand and need to be realigned.
Tim Minchin: The day they find out yoga mats are carcinogenic will be the happiest day of my life.
Eating much more food than a body needs causes obesity.
Of course eating too much causes obesity, but dismissing a serious problem with an vacuous inanity isn't constructive.
What causes people to eat too much? More importantly, what has caused the problem to TRIPLE? Why did the problem become much much worse over the last 35 years?
Every proposed cause is either something that already existed 35 years ago (soda, sedentary lifestyle), or isn't actually correlated with obesity (fructose).
How much of the fish's weight is made up of this?
Is this just proof of much better detection methods?
Why did the problem become much much worse over the last 35 years?
Computers, video games, cable TV, internet, etc.
Inactivity and massive amounts of carbohydrates.
Consumption of carbohydrates as a proportion of total calories has not increased over the last 35 years.
That simple.
Simple, yet wrong.
The reasons why kids are being inactive today versus 30 years ago are the interactive video systems
If video games really were the root cause of hundreds of millions of cases of obesity, there would be plenty of evidence. Can you cite any? Boys play more video games than girls, yet girls have higher obesity rates.
Mooo..
Computers, video games, cable TV, internet, etc.
Yet obesity has gone up most among poor people who are least likely to be able to afford these things. Obesity has gone up the most among African-American females, the demographic least likely to own a computer or play video games. Obesity has gone up as much in Mexico as it has in America, yet all of these things you listed are less common there.
why dont they use them to filter the water where wastewater treatment plants are, and water recycling plants, and anywhere else water is put in to the municipal water supply? i think somebody just wants to sell people something to put in their washing machines because it does not really do anything otherwise cities would already be using this tech in their waste water treatment and water recycling plants
Maybe because we're less active than we used to be?
So what has caused hundreds of millions of people to become much less active? Cars ownership did not significantly change. There were no profound shifts to less labor intensive jobs. How do you explain such a massive shift in metabolism and behavior, other than just pointing out that it happened?
As we all know, you can make compostable and biodegradeable furniture from vegetable matter, and even print it in 3D printers. It's not difficult to make vegetable matter biofilm solids to replace much plastic usage, in terms of plastic bags, plastic wrap, shipping foam, etc. Then this problem disappears, other than for those resins used for microfleece.
But even microfleece can be replaced by vegetable based bioplastics.
If it's for fashion, having something that only lasts a few times becomes less of an issue, or you can use ones that aren't water soluble until exposed to specific wavelengths. But for jackets and sweaters and caps, it's still a minor issue.
The future is bioplastics, replacing plastics. Sadly, we do have to remove the existing micro plastic remnants from our drinking supply, air, and ground for a while after we phase out plastics.
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Urbanization?
Inactivity and massive amounts of carbohydrates.
Consumption of carbohydrates as a proportion of total calories has not increased over the last 35 years.
I'd hugely disagree, even without an appropriate referenced study. Just look to the cost and common size of that huge source of carbs, the coke, cola, soda, pop, etc. And note that refills became free somewhere in the late 80s or 90s. Finally, note that in the 80s, IIRC, is when the "War on Fat" in the diet started. Turns out eating fat doesn't necessarily make you fat, but eating carbs, especially those provided by sugars, not only become fat easier, but also cause a whole host of other issues including obesity and liver disease. A simple google search on this topic for reports published in 2017 will reveal that carb heavy diets are terrible.
That simple.
Simple, yet wrong.
You can guess, citation? Or even some simple counter-arguments?
The reasons why kids are being inactive today versus 30 years ago are the interactive video systems
FTFY: I responded to that quote from the GP
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
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no wonder the steak and eggs taste so good.
Urbanization?
Urbanization hasn't changed near enough in the last 35 years to account for a TRIPLING of obesity rates, even if it was correlated with obesity (it isn't).
Rural people are most likely to be obese.
Urban people are least likely to be obese.
Suburban people are in the middle.
Do the microfibers have "chemicals" in them or something?
If microplastics absorb pollutants from the environment, I bet they also absorb pollutants from fish.
Its cheap calories in the form of junk food. Good food has gotten so expensive more and more people are sustaining themselves on huge amounts of junk calories as discount prices. We are advertised to relentlessly by brands whose ingredients while stable and nontoxic contain almost no useful nutrition or substantially less than the un processed real mccoy.
Do we see vegans who no doubt drink this water suffering from obesity?
Im not a vegan but i eat ok and enjoy a little junk food and excercise but the answer is obvious if you just glance at the data all around you
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I'd say it's 2 things:
1. Abundant tasty foods.
2. Parents should be helping their kids. In the past, bad parents had hungry kids. Now almost no one ever goes hungry and when bad parents neglect their kids' health and they're too fat instead of too thin.
Does anyone actually take the time to help a kid be less fat? I was a fat kid. Exactly zero people ever genuinely tried to help me with that.
Some people are hung up on glyphosates. I myself am of the opinion that it is the swapping in our collective diet of the proportions of calories from fat and carbohydrates. We used to eat a much more high fat diet before the government got involved in the 70's and hypnotized us all into eating a high carb diet. Unfortunately, this is also muddled with the high and pervasive use of glyphosates in both grains eaten by humans and those used in feedstock. So either way those who can't afford to protect themselves eat super-high amounts of carbohydrates and glyphosates. There are also the GMO's, no long-term studies have ever been performed on their impacts on the human body, in fact no studies of any consequence at all were performed. So, you might think it's unscientific to hate on the GMOs but I think it's unscientific to just take a corporation's word and believe that they are safe. These corporations have a strong vested interest in getting their products approved and couldn't give two shits about the health of the consumers of their "product".
Only I can judge you.
Because the fittest, best looking women will be at higher risk of cancer? You really don't think very much, do you?
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Why did the problem become much much worse over the last 35 years?
Dietary changes. The emergence of Fast Food lifestyle.... McDonalds' arrived at New York in 1972;
not a lot longer than 35 years ago. Then over the following decades we got Internet, Console games, then Mobile games.
They need a solution for municipal water systems so all the plastic from everybody gets trapped in one place.
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has gone up most among poor people who are least likely to be able to afford these things.
You claim "least likely to be able to afford those things", but in fact, in many cases poor people may have plenty of access to these things and might be prioritizing purchasing these things over massively more expensive toys such as a car for basic transportation ---- Can't afford a $5000 car and $2000 a year in insurance, but a $200 game console for the kids is nothing; ability to afford does not always equate to access and usage. Computers and video games if anything have gotten more and more affordable over the past 35 years; to the point now where anyone with a mobile phone can play them, and Everyone has to have a smart phone ----- plenty of people with their iPhone 7s and 6s... seen checking out at the grocery store with their EBT card.
Its cheap calories in the form of junk food.
Junk food is not a new phenomena. There was plenty of it 35 years ago.
Good food has gotten so expensive
Food has gone down in price over the last 35 years, and basic staples are less expensive than junk food. Oatmeal is way cheaper than potato chips. Carrots are cheaper than pretzels. Tap water is more affordable than soda.
There are a lot of dumb explanations for the obesity epidemic, but the argument that people "had to get fat" out of economic necessity is the most ridiculous.
Dietary changes.
Sure, and hot weather is caused by an increase in temperatures.
OF COURSE diets changed. But why did they change? A small bump of 5% or 10% might be explained away as "advertising for junk food" or "more video games". But we saw a 200% increase, a TRIPLING of obesity. That is a profound and extreme change in food consumption and metabolism. Why? If it was really something simplistic like "video games", then there would be huge amounts of data to confirm that. So far no one has even been able to show a correlation between video game use and obesity, and certainly not any causation.
Here is a summary article about video games and obesity, including both observation studies and controlled experiments. They found NO evidence to support the hypothesis that video games, or watching TV, cause obesity.
1. Abundant tasty foods.
Food was just as abundant and tasty 35 years ago.
In the past, bad parents had hungry kids. Now almost no one ever goes hungry
Hunger in America was not more common 35 years ago.
Does anyone actually take the time to help a kid be less fat?
Do you really think that childhood obesity tripled because of a vast decline in helpful people?
Poor people can afford most of those.
Of computers and consoles are dirt cheap and a $50 game gives months of play time.
Price up a core2 system and a 1050ti. Shitloads of games run fine on that at 720p.
You can also waste hours on Facebook and watch torrents.
Poor people can't afford it? Lol. We're long past the 80s.
OF COURSE diets changed. But why did they change? A small bump of 5% or 10% might be explained away as "advertising for junk food" or "more video games". But we saw a 200% increase, a TRIPLING of obesity. That is a profound and extreme change in food consumption and metabolism. Why?
There are probably many correlations. The release of the food pyramid with carbs to be the most consumed item. Colour TV becomes widespread & advertising of junk food increases. Could be a rapid increases in wages vs cost of food. Maybe some new really cheap way of harvesting vegetable oil.
Or maybe it's the change to add HFCS in so much of our food? From the HFCS wiki article:
In 1965–1970 Yoshiyuki Takasaki, at the Japanese National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) developed a heat-stable xylose isomerase enzyme from yeast. In 1967, the Clinton Corn Processing Company obtained an exclusive license to a manufacture glucose isomerase derived from Streptomyces bacteria and began shipping an early version of HFCS in February 1967.[3]:140 In 1983, the FDA approved HFCS as Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS), and that decision was reaffirmed in 1996[30] Prior to the development of the worldwide sugar industry, dietary fructose was limited to only a few items. Milk, meats, and most vegetables, the staples of many early diets, have no fructose, and only 5–10% fructose by weight is found in fruits such as grapes, apples, and blueberries. Most traditional dried fruits, however, contain about 50% fructose. From 1970 to 2000, there was a 25% increase in "added sugars" in the U.S
why can some people eat anything they damn well please while I'm at the gym 4 days a week and eating 2000 calories a day and still 30 lbs over weight. Answer: Gut Bacteria. How do we know? Poop transplants. Seriously. They found out when they did one from an overweight person to a skinny girl and the skinny girl got fat without changing her diet.
Lots and lots of the stuff we blame on poor moral character is turning out to be physiological. I'm wondering if this will change our society's outlook on life?
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Make it worth my while or get off my lawn.
Food was just as abundant and tasty 35 years ago.
False. You seriously want to say that food is the one area where there's been zero progress in the last 35 years?
Hunger in America was not more common 35 years ago.
I don't know what you think "more common" means. Food costs less and high calorie, ready to eat foods are clearly more available to more people at lower cost (measured in time spent working to earn the money to buy them) than 35 years ago.
Do you really think that childhood obesity tripled because of a vast decline in helpful people?
It's a factor. There are other factors. And it's not a decline in "helpful people", it's a specific unwillingness/failure to help a kid slim down. There's help for a kid to learn math or science or history. There's help for an injured kid or any number of other kids with other problems. Just not for the fat kid.
There are lots of other factors, but a kid is ultimately just a kid. A kid's health is the parents' responsibility, period. A fat kid's parents have fallen down on the job. If more kids are fat, more parents are failing their kids. No two ways about it.
I don't think you mean glyphosates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
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I definitely did mean glyphosates. Look it up, people are concerned and their concerns seem valid.
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But they're also frigid and I like women that get their exercise in other ways.
Instead of everybody having to use one in our washing machine. Doh.
Its cheap calories in the form of junk food. Good food has gotten so expensive
Spoken like someone who doesn't cook good food. I only eat junkfood when I really need to, it's far more expensive than making something with nice fresh ingredients from the store.
Actually there's plenty of scientific evidence that shows many commonly used Plastics today are significantly changing both men's and women's hormone levels, and not in a good way. In men, it's affecting their sperm in negative ways and reducing their sexual drive and feminizing them overall. So for you guys wanting a sex change, just eat more Plastics, you'll eventually get there. As for me, I'll continue to use a minimum of triple filtration for all my water sources to insure I'm ingesting as little plastic residue as physically possible. But then, as I think about that response, I realize that today, much of our water is carried through plastic plumbing pipes, Plastic lined pipes and plastic bottles. Where will it end ?
You are 1000% correct ! And yes it IS the commercial use of " Roundup " aka generic name, " Glyphosate ". I believe it was the DOW Corporation who originally invented it and claimed that it " dissipates " or " organically breaks down into harmless nothingness " ... but they are the same corporation that brought us " Agent Orange " which killed off thousands of Vietnam Veteran's and Vietnamese people, produced thousands of deformed babies of Vietnam Veteran's and the Vietnamese people, as well as poisoning the land and waters of Vietnam and continues killing people to this day. Corporations don't give a rats ass, as long as they are making money.
You keep telling yourself that ..... but just because it's banned in the USA, doesn't mean your immune to what's being used in other countries. We live on one giant planet and everything is connected. Just because you live on one side, doesn't mean that poisons being used on the other side won't eventually reach you. That's just obtuse thinking to believe your not .. or won't eventually be affected by those actions.
And what may I ask are the pollutants that fish produce ??? You either failed biology or your science classes, or you've never been to school. Can you really be that obtuse ?????
Okay his answer was too brief. Then how about this cause: Sedentary lifestyle. 30 years ago when I was a teen, video games were rudimentary and kids spent a lot more time outside. We rode bikes around the neighborhood, we built forts, we roamed and played. And we burned off the soda's and other high sugar foods with active play.
Nowdays it's hard to get the kids off the TV, even if you kick em out they don't go roaming and playing like they used to because all the other kids are at home playing games or watching TV.
Our sedentary lifestyle is to blame. And the difference is that it is far more pervasive than it used to be.
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You have to prepare oatmeal. Pretzels are a more favored snack (we like salty foods). Carrots aren't as snackable, they are wet and often get slimy/
Sedentary lifestyle is still the answer. Not just gaming but Cable and now streaming TV and an abundant supply of snack foods reduces the need or desire to leave the couch.
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In part, yes, it's due to an abundance of cheap calories available in the form of junk food. There's another massive factor too, people's inability or unwillingness to self educate about healthy cheap alternatives, and a general tendency towards more sedentary lifestyles. Most likely everyday work related stress also contributes greatly in the form of comfort eating, and lack of time to prepare proper meals even if one has the required knowledge.
Not only is it dangerous for the environment but also for your body. These microfibers get lodged in your skin and absorbed, increasing risk of cancer. Stopped using them and never have used any on my son. Sucks because sometimes we have to make our own clothes but whatever. Worth it.
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Urbanization PLUS changes in culture. When I was a kid being sent to my room was punishment. Now I have to force my kids to go outside and when they do they're sitting around using their portable computers (sorry phones). I have to force them to do anything outside of dance class.
I walk 30 blocks to go to a store and people think I'm crazy. Why didn't I take the train (live in NYC). In the suburbs people drive when their only going a half mile. WTF?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Women on your computer screen aren't real. Get over your porn fantasies. A real woman ain't going to go down on you the first time you meet because, you know, you delivered pizza to her house and her husband was on a two day business trip.
Only I can judge you.
What causes people to eat too much? More importantly, what has caused the problem to TRIPLE? Why did the problem become much much worse over the last 35 years?
You can over eat fats without a problem. Excess fat is just excreted out in your feces. You can't over eat sugar. Excess sugar is converted to fat stores in your body.
And colon cancer is on the rise among young adults. It's possible these two things are linked.
You know fish poop in the ocean right?
I offer the following definitions:
fleece
fls/
noun
1. the woolly covering of a sheep or goat.
"as the sheep came on board, we grabbed their long shaggy fleeces"
2. a thing resembling a sheep's woolly covering, in particular.
"Golly gee, this polar fleece almost keeps me as warm as natural fleece."
verb
1. informal - obtain a great deal of money from (someone), typically by overcharging or swindling them.
"Like he had done to so many others, Donald Trump fleeced me, when he stiffed me on the bill for the piano's I sold him. What a fucking con-artist!! I sure hope noboby is stupid enough to vote for him."
2. literary - cover as if with a fleece.
"the sky was half blue, half fleeced with white clouds"
Ah, sorry, I misread your post.
I saw a program on TV once where a Danish farmer who had fed half of his pigs from a field that he used to treat with Glyphosate and the other half from a field that he didn't use Glyphosate on. The ones with the Glyphosate were not as healthy and had far more piglets that were born dead than the other half.
I was quite astonished a few days ago to hear that the EU had decided that Glyphosate was safe. But now I read that part of the document in which they came to that conclusion was copied verbatim from Monsanto's document in which they tried to show it is safe.
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Fructose correlates with stimulating the appetite so I don't know why it wouldn't correlate with obesity. Multiple other food additives also stimulate appetite so hfcs may be lost in the noise.
News just in they are offering this technology for FREE! That's right, 100% free to order from the company. It is for the good of the planet after all.
It is because people were following bad nutrition advice put forth by the government. Fats were unfairly vilified and fats taste good so in order to make the bland food tasty sugar was added to everything. People eat far too much sugar.
It's truly amazing what a couple of good pans, some fresh ingredients, and a little know-how and technique can get you for very little money. My wife and I go out to eat when we're feeling lazy, and to satisfy a craving or two of hers that we can't easily make at home. We don't go out for cheaper food, and rarely go out for better food. Learning to cook makes going out to eat hard, because it stings a bit to pay a lot of money for something you could have done better. It doesn't matter how good a chef is, when the kitchen gets slammed, it gets slammed. Hard to do a great job on 20 dishes all at once.
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I sort of disagree with the last part of your statement. A chef rarely does 20 dishes by himself in a good restaurant and the synergies of common orders makes things quite easy. I find it no more difficult cooking steaks for 20 than I do cooking steaks for myself, even with different requests for how well done they are.
But back on point of cost, I see often someone complain that they tried cooking at home once and it cost them a fortune. Key is once, and what they are missing is the left over raw ingredients. If I go out right now and buy all the ingredients for a chicken caesar salad I would wonder why I didn't just go to a restaurant. But I would need to ignore the fact that I likely have enough for a normal salad for the following 2 days, not to mention a complete breakfast of bacon, eggs, herbs spices and cheese to make a wicked omelette for the entire weekend, some olive oil which will likely be used in every other meal for the following 2 months, etc etc.
I wonder if the GP tried cooking fresh ... once.
@msmash did you even read the fucking thing? It's from the dryer... which people usually put washed clothes into. How is that *dirty* laundry?
Slashdot has fallen a long way from their days of glory.
Fuck you msmash you click baiting piece of shit.
I saw this documentary called Pyramids of Waste (free on Youtube), and it talked about how there use to be an indestructible panty-hose. They soon realized that people would stop buying after a few pairs because they lasted so long, and the company couldn't sustain. So they made them weaker so they tear. It's amazing that finally after 50 years we are seeing the consequences of these selfish actions. Washers, dryers, cloths, shirts, pants, cotton-wear are all meant to be worn down to a destructive state, THEN REPLACED FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! Since it is biblical that you never should wear polyester, I don't see anything changing any time soon.
OF COURSE diets changed. But why did they change?
Culture. New developments. Social trends and fads. EXISTENCE OF ENABLING CONDITIONS such as creation or proliferation of products is enough for humans to change. It's kind of silly that you are incredulous about there being major changes, or that there has to be some grand conspiracy like "something hidden in the water", because humans are LIVING beings, and their
behavior can be affected massively by things as simple as Advertising, or what other people say, but ultimately it comes down to
disorderly chaos of millions of peoples' personal choices, and whatever becomes popular......
The "latest fashion trends", "what's cool", or what direction they've seen the herd randomly move in.
ALL Infinitely more plausible than "some bits of plastic escaped from our clothing, got into our water supply, and implanted our brains to reprogram people to seek out as many carbs as possible."
You have named a number of possible causes. Perhaps the truth is that they all contribute to the observed effects.
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Your big NOPE is pathetic. You still eat bugs, you just don't know about it. The FDA allows pretty large amounts of insect parts and feces in food. It's completely harmless, probably even good for us. I've seen estimates of 2 pounds of insects per person every year. Over the course of your life you'll probably eat close to your own weight in bugs!
Man, you really need that seminar!
Cool. Sometimes I ramble, my post may not have been very clear. I'm definitely disappointed that the EU ruled that glyphosates were safe. I'm guessing lots of bribes were distributed to get the EU to come to that conclusion. I also was hoping they would hold the line on food safety so there would be an escape hatch for us 'muricans. I'm frankly quite surprised that France went along with this travesty, my view was that they tend to care about food quality.
Only I can judge you.
What I don't know about won't squick me.