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Bird Feeders Might Be Changing Bird Beaks (axios.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Bird beaks might be evolving to better fit bird feeders. A study of great tits in the UK, where feeders are common, found the bird's beaks have grown over the last 26 years, that British birds had longer beaks than those in the Netherlands, and that birds with genes for longer beaks were more likely to visit feeders, per Science News. Scientists have known that environmental changes, like El Nino, can influence the evolution of animals. Now, it appears something as simple as bird feeders can do the same. The scientists looked at the beaks of 2,322 great tits from the UK and the Netherlands, and also examined their genes. They tagged birds with gene variants for short and long beaks and tracked their feeding habits. What they found: The British birds had longer beaks and were more likely to have genes associated with beak length.

116 comments

  1. Don't you mean "cat feeders"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only reason to attract birds is to feed cats.

    1. Re:Don't you mean "cat feeders"? by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have one of those combination bird feeder/cat feeder things. It looks like an ordinary bird feeder, but it hangs just a couple of inches off the ground. The cats love it!

    2. Re:Don't you mean "cat feeders"? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "The only reason to attract birds is to feed cats."

      Naw, also people without cats looove great tits.

    3. Re:Don't you mean "cat feeders"? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      No no, I've found the squirrels love 'em even more than the birds or cats.

    4. Re:Don't you mean "cat feeders"? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Andy Richter was even more confused

  2. That's evolution by Martin+S. · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is exactly how evolution is expected to work and originally documented by Darwin' study of Galapagos Finches.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You don't watch much pr0n then?

    2. Re:That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is just micro evolution. Darwins theory (yes it is just a theory) is wrong, we have never seen a tit produce a wiener.

      You are not using the word "kind" what type of creationist are you?

    3. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Seeing common ancestors between animals that are clearly not related is just pareidolia.

      Wow, I didn't know you could see faces in DNA.

    4. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "But, there is absolutely no evidence of common descent in creatures."
      Apart from reversions, atrophied aspects, nonfunctional vestiges and DNA. But apart from all THAT data, we don't have any evidence of common descent in creatures.

      Hmmm? What? Morphology and fossil records? Oh shut up.

    5. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Morphology and fossil records are better evidence for common design rather than common descent. Everything else you're alluding to is misinterpreted from conflated comparisons, circular reasoning, plain ol' ignorance, etc.

      I've said my piece. However ... make me shut up. I dare you.

    6. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penguin evolution is a fib.

      And the Earth isn't round, either... nope, it's shaped like a burrito!

    7. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoa.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4853084/Scientists-use-GENES-build-image-face.html

    8. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sigh. please read.

      http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics

    9. Re:That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is just micro evolution. Darwins theory (yes it is just a theory) is wrong, we have never seen a tit produce a wiener.

      Of course we have. Once Trump ran for President, they came out of the woodwork to vote for him.

      Funny, but Hillary isn't looking so bad now, after all.

    10. Re:That's evolution by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I almost feel sorry for someone who thinks Hillary doesn't look bad.

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    11. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The tree of descent reconstructed from morphology, from fossil records, and from genetics all agree quite closely.

      If the species were independently designed, rather than branching on an evolutionary tree of common descent, there is absolutely no reason for that to be the case.

      Granted, that isn't evidence against special creation - because ANYTHING fits with special creation - but there is no necessary reason for it, whereas evolutionary theory predicts it.

    12. Re:That's evolution by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Hey nitwit - you do realize that evangelicals did NOT support Trump in the primaries. You do realize that days before the election Trump was in second place in Urtah and Hillary was in third. Neither the evangelicals nor the Mormons were Trump fans. McMullin still ended up with over 20% of the vote; and Hillary less than 30%

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    13. Re:That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing you said almost. I don't feel sorry, at all for Trumpsters. I'm too busy laughing at them. Hell, they've humiliated themselves. And now they're stuck trying to defend this piece of shit, because it would be even more humiliating for them to reverse course and admit they were wrong. I'm looking forward to the end of his one term - if he even makes it that far.

      At least Hillary has political experience and a fucking clue how Washington works, so yeah, she's certainly not looking so bad now.

      But you just go ahead and keep pretending that Tucker Carlson and the rest of Faux-News aren't shoveling a bunch of bullshit propaganda up your ass.** You seem to be good at ignoring common sense.

      To all the people that felt Hillary was going to cause WWIII - you can go fuck yourselves now.

      **Wow!! What an appropriate CAPTCHA - rectum

    14. Re: That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes CAPTCHA can tell if you are talking out your ass.

    15. Re:That's evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, Captain WTF. Thanks for the non-sequitur.

    16. Re:That's evolution by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Don't like Hillary? Vote for her good buddy, the Hollywood elite maybe billionaire because he's different.

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  3. "a study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    u wot m8

    1. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Page free, m8.

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    2. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Obviously this study was conducted in the below-the-fold part of Daily Mail Online.

    3. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, i want to hear more of this study of great tits. actually, i'm interested in all the pictures and video, i am a huge fan of great tits.

    4. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The UK started putting bare-breasted school-girls in their news in 1971 and stopped in 2003 and stopped bare-breasts totally in 2015.

      Sometimes, it's scary to see how far 'political correctness' has taken us while nothing really changes: Schoolgirls now photograph themselves.

    5. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      But, you also need to look at their jeans...er' genes.

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    6. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen great tits in the UK.

    7. Re:"a study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I've never seen great tits in the UK.

      Turn to page 3.

      You'll thank me later!

  4. Great research position by Smidge204 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can imagine that conversation....

    "So, you're a field researcher? What do you study?"

    "Great tits!"

    "Ah, you're an ornithologist?"

    "What? Oh, uh... yeah, sure..."
    =Smidge=

    1. Re:Great research position by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      "So, you're a field researcher? What do you study?"

      "Great tits!"

      . . . so don't worry about this thread getting labeled "Godwined" . . . with statements like those above, this thread has officiously been labeled "Weinsteined" . . .

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    2. Re:Great research position by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can imagine that conversation....

      "So, you're a field researcher? What do you study?"

      "Great tits!"

      "Ah, you're an ornithologist?"

      "No, I study birds in the UK..."

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    3. Re:Great research position by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      I can imagine that conversation....

      "So, you're a field researcher? What do you study?"

      "Great tits!"

      "Ah, you're an ornithologist?"

      "What? Oh, uh... yeah, sure..."
      =Smidge=

      I have ehmm... found that the more I have studied great tits, the longer the uhm.. beak has grown.

    4. Re:Great research position by KingRatMass · · Score: 1

      I can imagine that conversation....

      "So, you're a field researcher? What do you study?"

      "Great tits!"

      "Ah, you're an ornithologist?"

      "No... I'm Harvey Weinstein, you insensitive clod."

    5. Re:Great research position by coofercat · · Score: 1

      ...and for the foreigners who don't get that comment...

      "They call us birds... we pick up worms"

  5. Does nobody RTFS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're 6 comments in, and nobody has made a 'tits' joke.

    1. Re:Does nobody RTFS? by Calydor · · Score: 2

      There's already been two above your comment.

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  6. Disappointed by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    First they grab my attention...

    2,322 great tits from the UK and the Netherlands

    and then they show me some birds? Is the internet broken today? ;)

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    1. Re: Disappointed by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 1

      I was going to quote the same fragment, and also include some lame text. Sigh.

    2. Re:Disappointed by war4peace · · Score: 1

      That's 1161 great women.

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  7. Do not wver feed any wild animals by mapkinase · · Score: 0

    Please

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    1. Re:Do not wver feed any wild animals by MountainMan101 · · Score: 2

      They're not truly wild. They live in the managed ecosystems of our towns and villages.

      Whilst feeding animal in the true wild is bad, feeding back garden birds that would otherwise fail to find sufficient food in bird-unfriendly gardens (lacking the correct plants and enough prey) is necessary to prevent further decline.

      For example:
      "House sparrow numbers were not monitored adequately before the mid-1970s. Since then, numbers in rural England have nearly halved while numbers in towns and cities have declined by 60 per cent. Because of these large population declines, the house sparrow is now red-listed as a species of high conservation concern."

      https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-...

    2. Re:Do not wver feed any wild animals by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      They're not truly wild. They live in the managed ecosystems of our towns and villages.

      Whilst feeding animal in the true wild is bad, feeding back garden birds that would otherwise fail to find sufficient food in bird-unfriendly gardens (lacking the correct plants and enough prey) is necessary to prevent further decline.

      We feed a number of species in our back yard. Aside from educational and entertainment value, it is nice to be of some help to some of the birds. We now have a couple families of pileated woodpeckers along with downy, hairy and redheaded peckers, lots of goldfinches, cardinals, grosbeaks. and wood thrushes, winter wrens, as well as bluejays. Sparrows and we have some Cooper Hawks, one who seems to really like my wife.Those are just the regulars.

      "House sparrow numbers were not monitored adequately before the mid-1970s. Since then, numbers in rural England have nearly halved while numbers in towns and cities have declined by 60 per cent.

      I wonder if the numbers have declined in part because of increased competition with other birds who are becoming more common? Just conjecture - in our area the entirety of the bird population is way up. But I have noticed less of them in our back yard.

      One behavioral thing about the sparrows I've noticed around here. They are clever at finding food sources. At restaurants and gas stations, when cars pull in and park, the sparrows fly under the car and up to the radiators to feast on bugs caught on them while driving.

      I've noticed less of them here in the Northeast of US as well.

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    3. Re:Do not wver feed any wild animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For nearly two decades, my yards were a Bird Sanctuary. All sorts of Birds; I'm not a Birdwatcher, so I can't name them, but I did like listening to them, especially those that a Roommate called Nightingales. But no longer.
      Why is this? For those nearly two decades, I had a wonderful Cat, a Guardian Cat. My Cat kept these yards otherwise Cat-Free. Hell, he would take on Raccoons three times his size, yet he made friends with Skunks; several generations made home in the subfloor, and did a fine job of of burrowing after irritating ground Bugs, like Yellow Jackets.
      It was a finely ruled Ecosystem, at the top of which was a Tabby.
      Oh, although not an Indoors Cat, he did take notice. For instance, he quite approved of my Roommates... but at times not of their rare Male Visitors. His opinion was fast, swift, and pungent, and did not wash out easily. Oh, he was very pleased with himself afterwards, once the outrage settled down. He made a mistake only once; yes, it turned out that the Visitor was a Brother... but he had been adopted, so my Cat's exquisite sense of smell failed him there.
      Other Cats in the neighborhood stayed away from my yards, and my Skunks, and my Roommates, and my Birds. Neighborhood Dogs were terrified of him. Hell, they were terrified of me. I could raise myself to my full six foot height, and do a superb My Cat impersonation. One neighbor went and so far as allowed that I had gone and broke his dog.
      With such responsibility came a great price; I had a running account with the local Vet. Yet even there, they knew that this was an exceptional Cat. In his latter years, a couple of times, they asked if they could keep him. No, he had to live out his Rule, while there were still Nightingales to sing at night.
      Rulers die and Kingdoms are lost. It is rare now that a Songbird dwells in my yards for any length of time.
      Occasionally I visit my oldest and best Roommate, who now has Cats of her own... and a Husband... and Kids. We get to reminiscing about things in their Hot Tub, and I've got to admit that she still has a pair of things that My Cat admired and protected, a pair of Great Tits.

      Shave and a haircut, two bits.

    4. Re:Do not wver feed any wild animals by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Any great tits in your backyard?

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    5. Re:Do not wver feed any wild animals by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Any great tits in your backyard?

      Occasionally. Especially when we have the hot tub going.

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  8. "A study of great tits in the UK" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A study of great tits in the UK

    Though in the UK, this phrase means something altogether completely different.

  9. Can we rename the stupid birds yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The German word is "Meise", Great Tits are "Kohlmeisen". Totally inconspicuous. At least name them in Latin. Or something. But the Internet is already overloaded with great tits.

    1. Re:Can we rename the stupid birds yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We also have Coal tits in the UK, https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/bird-and-wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/c/coaltit/

    2. Re:Can we rename the stupid birds yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know! how about boobies?
      Oh wait, that's just tits again.
      And it's taken by another bird...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  10. Unfamiliar with that bird... by Pollux · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've not heard of that bird species before. No worries. Google to the rescue!

    Let's see here...

    images.google.com

    Search for... "Great tit" ...

    Well, guess I should have seen that one coming.

    1. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lots of pictures of birds? That's what I see

    2. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've not heard of that bird species before. No worries. Google to the rescue!

      Let's see here...

      images.google.com

      Search for... "Great tit" ...

      Well, guess I should have seen that one coming.

      Have you actually tried? Even with "Safe Search" turned off, you get oodles of pages of birds before anything else.

    3. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried it bing's image search too. They mostly do a good job of showing birds, but there are a few "clothed massive mammary" images thrown in the middle here and there.

    4. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've not heard of that bird species before. No worries. Google to the rescue!

      Let's see here...

      images.google.com

      Search for... "Great tit" ...

      Well, guess I should have seen that one coming.

      Have you actually tried? Even with "Safe Search" turned off, you get oodles of pages of birds before anything else.

      Damn you google! You've ruined the internet!

    5. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After you've finished looking up Great Tits, you should also have a look at Boobies.

    6. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by PPH · · Score: 1

      Found it. Filed under Tits 'n Ass

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    7. Re:Unfamiliar with that bird... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Have you actually tried? Even with "Safe Search" turned off, you get oodles of pages of birds before anything else.

      This statement is true no matter which way it goes, once you remember that "bird" is also slang for "chick".

  11. Re:Do not ever feed any wild animals by Inviska · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a moral dilemma, and there are strong arguments both ways, but I lean towards feeding them for a number of reasons for this. Firstly, human activity is having a very negative impact on bird populations, and populations are declining rapidly. It seems morally correct to compensate for the damage by help the animals, and feeding them to maintain their population is one way of doing that.

    Feeding does seem to have a beneficial effect. For example if we look at tits, a family of birds that are very adept at eating from feeders, we see their population is stable. While if we look at sparrows, which will absolutely never eat from feeders and will only ever feed from the ground, we see their population is in decline, and numbers are headed towards dangerously low levels. As human populations continue to expand, it appears as though feeding of birds is the only thing that's going to save them.

    The second reason I lean towards feeding is that during the winter 50% of small birds die due to a combination of starving and freezing to death, which is an extremely unpleasant way to go. If I were starving and freezing, I know I would like somebody to give me food, and I'm certain the birds would have the same attitude. Feeding birds avoids a lot of suffering. Yes, it does interfere with nature, but humans are already interfering on a massive scale. We may as well engage in some positive interference to counter our huge negative impact.

  12. No shit, Sherlock! I am shocked! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0
    Amazing deductions Mr Holmes... I am truly amazed!

    What they found: The British birds had longer beaks and were more likely to have genes associated with beak length.

    How on earth you could connect longer beaks with genes for beak length, Mr Holmes!

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    1. Re:No shit, Sherlock! I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And color me shocked that they often use bird feeders with that beak.....It is good to see that degree from MIT is really paying off.

    2. Re:No shit, Sherlock! I am shocked! by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      How on earth you could connect longer beaks with genes for beak length, Mr Holmes!

      Every bird had genes for beak length. Some have genes for short beaks, some have genes for long beaks.

      What appears to be missing is any information that would exclude natural causes for longer beaks in the UK and shorter in The Netherlands. It is almost certain that there are many times as many birds in both places who eat from "the wild" and not from "bird feeders", so the evolutionary pressure to develop longer beaks may have nothing at all to do with feeders to begin with.

    3. Re:No shit, Sherlock! I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every bird had genes for beak length. Some have genes for short beaks, some have genes for long beaks.

      Sort of. Every gird has genes for growing a beak. How long the beak gets is determined by the balance of how the varied genes get expressed in development. Cells don't check for "beak length" and stop dividing when the right length is reached.

      I know you know this; I just run into an awful lot of people who seem to think such numbers are "encoded" in DNA somehow, like the body actually measures such things while growing. The genome is more like a recipe than a blueprint.

  13. What's most interesting by turp182 · · Score: 0

    It seems we have a propensity, as a species, to name bird species after cleavage.

    In the Galapagos you have several species of Boobies.

    Meanwhile, in the UK, you actually have a bird called "great tits"... This is rather creepy to be honest.

    I think the ornithologists need to get out more, but I'm not sure if that would help.

    The awkward conversation:

    "I think that bird looks like a woman's breast, I shall call it Great Tits!"

    "Have you ever seen a woman's breast?"

    "No, but I would expect it to look like a bird."

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    1. Re:What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems we have a propensity, as a species, to name bird species after cleavage.

      Not to mention breeding fruit that look like a computer logo.

    2. Re:What's most interesting by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      There are tits everywhere. There are yellow tits and blue tits, there are dusky tits and sombre tits, and the Philippines even have "elegant tits". There are also several species that seem somewhat meta, like the red-breasted and stripy-breasted tits.

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    3. Re:What's most interesting by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. In New Zealand I saw black shags.

    4. Re:What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing. In Yorkshire...

    5. Re:What's most interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      It seems we have a propensity, as a species, to name bird species after cleavage.
      In the Galapagos you have several species of Boobies.
      Meanwhile, in the UK, you actually have a bird called "great tits"... This is rather creepy to be honest.

      "tit" (slang) dates from the 1920s, though "titty" comes from the 1700s. But the use of the word "tit" to mean "anything small" comes from the 1500s or earlier. So tits were just small birds, and tits didn't become boobs until recently-ish.

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    6. Re:What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems we have a propensity, as a species, to name bird species after cleavage.
      In the Galapagos you have several species of Boobies.
      Meanwhile, in the UK, you actually have a bird called "great tits"... This is rather creepy to be honest.

      "tit" (slang) dates from the 1920s, though "titty" comes from the 1700s. But the use of the word "tit" to mean "anything small" comes from the 1500s or earlier. So tits were just small birds, and tits didn't become boobs until recently-ish.

      The unbird tits are just teats with funny spelling.

    7. Re:What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... "tits" didn't become "boobs" until recently-ish.

      It seems to an Americanism. Back in the 1980s they used "tits" and "jugs".

      ... tits were just small birds ...

      Huh, the titmouse is actually a bird.

    8. Re:What's most interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... tits were just small birds ...

      Huh, the titmouse is actually a bird.

      Yeah, and they're quite perky. We have them living around here in Kelseyville, CA. They are extremely adorable little peckers. They have almost as much personality as the hummingbirds, though they're not as bold (what is?)

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    9. Re:What's most interesting by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >Back in the 1980s they used "tits" and "jugs".

      And melons, cantaloupes, honkers, hooters, fun-bags, ta-tas, boobs, knockers, headlights, bumpers, air bags, lungs, sweater pillows, twins, a rack... apparently guys really like breasts because we have a LOT of names for them.

    10. Re:What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correlation does not imply causation....(ducks and runs)

    11. Re:What's most interesting by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      "tit" (slang) dates from the 1920s, though "titty" comes from the 1700s. But the use of the word "tit" to mean "anything small" comes from the 1500s or earlier. So tits were just small birds, and tits didn't become boobs until recently-ish.

      The word you're looking for is "teat". Its origins date back to the 12th century

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    12. Re: What's most interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in good old Kansas we have white throated swift swallows.

  14. Re:US might be changing Presidents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not a news source, lol moron. You Trumpies are pathetic faggots.

    I guess it's too much to expect you to actually read and follow links, and learn on your own?

    Typical progtard. Only good at repeating what he's been told to believe.

    And you wonder why "progressive" societies fail. How's that Venezuelan "revolution" coming, comrade?

  15. But it takes millions of years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can they evolve so quickly? Maybe they're not and their beaks are getting sharpened differently or it's just selective breeding/survival and not really evolution.

    1. Re:But it takes millions of years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      just selective breeding/survival and not really evolution

      Ah, that made my day. Slashdot never fails to deliver.

    2. Re:But it takes millions of years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How can they evolve so quickly?

      No one should be surprised that beak shape can change so quickly. Even if you want to call it "evolution" or whatever the so-called "scientists" call it, changing beak shape can't possibly take millions of years because the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

  16. Re: Do not ever feed any wild animals by easyTree · · Score: 2

    Yes, it does interfere with nature,

    We are part of nature.

  17. Missed headline opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Scientists Notice a Change in Great Tits"

  18. When 75% of all insect Biomass disapears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Insectivores have to look elsewhere, adapt, overcome and evolve.
    Mutations such as this are only the beginning.
    Alfred Hitchcock would have loved this.

  19. study by BKDotCom · · Score: 1

    "A study of great tits in the UK"
    Tee hee

  20. I can see it now by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Funny
    Researcher: "I'm an ornithologist"

    Lady: "How interesting! What are you studying?"

    Researcher: "Great Tits."

    Lady: "Um, thanks, but my eyes are up here!"

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  21. weak tea evolution by epine · · Score: 1

    Shifting of the population expression rate of genes already present in the gene pool is such weak tea, I practically have to screen for homeopathy dilution when I read a story submission like this one.

    An actual evolution product worth talking about is the capacity of a population to rapidly shift composition to match local conditions.

    Ideally, the number of short beaks would remain compatible with the food best exacted with short beaks, while the number of long beaks increases to optimally extract the newly available food source. Or some blended matrix of similar effect. Then, when the feeders all go away (easy come, easy go), it all shifts back again. What an awesome survival skill, that evolution might in some mysterious way have favoured over long megamillennia.

    When I adjust the dial on my coffee grinder to suit a new bean, I don't go around calling it evolution. Somehow my ego never got that particular genetic memo.

    The grandiose gadflies have long coexisted with the bullshit busters, in fluctuating ratio as social norms evolve. It might be true that a fool is born every minute, but it won't help the grifters much if a grifter is born every thirty seconds. There's a fancy name for a long-term phenotypic equilibrium (ever drifting) which I presently forget. But look around, there are many, all around us.

    Case in point: beach weakling has the pick of the marital litter if 90% of the local population is homologous for CAD (and women have any say in the matter at all).

    Thus always both types, in some ratio.

    1. Re:weak tea evolution by epine · · Score: 1

      s/homologous/homozygous

      Not an everyday typo. My fingers betray me in ever more clever ways.

      About half of my typing errors are full word substitutions which preserve 80% of the desired keystrokes, though not usually involving words this abstract.

  22. Re:Do not ever feed any wild animals by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

    So we just need to have some feeders that spill food out onto the ground?

  23. That's not evolution by Ebsolas · · Score: 1

    Evolution generally describes the changing of genes and DANA in animals which leads to changes in them. The changes are then weeded through by natural selection for the best. This article describes a process where birds already have the ability to grow longer beaks meaning that this isn't evolution it's natural selection.

  24. Great tits acquire taste for bats by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

    Great tits acquire taste for bats. Did the beaks change for them? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8245165.stm

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  25. So soon we forget Bill OReilly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even after having paid of a record settlement out of court of $32mil. I guess the rightwingnutjobs want to disguise the abhorrence of their creeps and their lack of upbraiding their creeps by pointing at a leftwing creep who the left wing are already dogpiling on to decry and ostracise.

    Get on with dogpiling on your bunch of creeps, asshole.

    1. Re:So soon we forget Bill OReilly. by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      The left-wing dogpile on Weinstein is funny yet sad. So many people desperately trying to shit on him the hardest. And yeah, Weinstein is a total douche, make no mistake, but everyone excoriating him knew what he was doing. He got away with it for decades, and it was an open secret. They refused to believe the actresses he assaulted because he was very successful, had a lot of influence, and he knew the right people. It's like the bar owner from Casablanca who protested "I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find gambling is going on here!" All the people who looked the other way and didn't call him out are now trying to feign the most outrage out of their sense of guilt, hoping no one asked why THEY didn't speak up when women accused him of sexual harassment and rape years ago.

  26. No, that is evolution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The species is evolving: changing over time. What it isn't is speciation. Retard.

  27. Irrelevant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It does not matter if it is "better evidence" for design, it's evidence for evolution. What fucks up the design are things like: what design required the coccyx? None. Unless the "design" was based on a monkey with a tail. You know, like human design evolved from the monkey design. Of course, there's no need for a designer to do that because evolution will do it without one.

  28. Re:US might be changing Presidents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not a news source you retarded Trump faggot.

  29. Creative ellipsis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The scientists looked at... 2,322 great tits

    Where can I get this job.

  30. Great Gig! by barbariccow · · Score: 1

    Scientists paid to look at great tits all day? Where do I sign up???

  31. I love great tits by Sla$hPot · · Score: 0

    They are so nice and fluffy

  32. Re:Do not ever feed any wild animals by thecatt · · Score: 1

    What kind of sparrows do you have? Ours eat from feeders all the time and are nowhere near dangerously low numbers. Certain feeder designs may foil them, but anything with a perch they will eat out of.

  33. Re:Do not ever feed any wild animals by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    There are ground feeders for birds that like to scratch and forage. They're usually platforms a few inches off the ground.

  34. Re:Do not ever feed any wild animals by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Those things are an open invitation for mice, chipmunks, squirrels, skunks, and raccoons, which can otherwise be excluded by using an elevated feeder. Nevertheless, thanks for the link.

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  35. The Results are In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We finished our study, and while we didn't find anything out about your little yellow birds, we have a shitload of pictures of Eva Green."

  36. Re:US might be changing Presidents by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

    here's a theory. The Russians spent money on both sides? After all, AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Oil Companies, and Drug companies do it.

  37. Trumpologetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know what? You made me rethink my post and I was mistaken about one, and of course, only one thing - Trumpters don't actually ever defend Trump, they're too busy playing apologist, by bashing Hillary in return - usually by quoting some dopey fucking propaganda they heard on Faux-"News".

    You can go fuck off, now, you fucking Trumpologist.