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Apple Limits Lengthy iPhone X Testing for Most Reviewers (wsj.com)

Tripp Mickle, reporting for the Wall Street Journal: Apple departed from its traditional preview strategy for what it bills as its most important new iPhone in years, prioritizing early access to the iPhone X for YouTube personalities and celebrities over most technology columnists who traditionally review its new products. Apple provided the iPhone X to a small number of traditional testers for about a week, while limiting most others, The Wall Street Journal included, to a single day with the device before reviews could be published (alternative source). About a half-dozen personalities on Alphabet's YouTube video service were granted time with the device before its release. The change in strategy meant the iPhone X, which hits stores Friday, got less testing than most of its predecessors before reviews could be published. Crash reviewers largely echoed those sentiments, adding the caveat that they could discover issues after they spend more time with the device. Most pledged full reviews for later in the week. The review strategy is "unusual," said Jan Dawson, an analyst with Jackdaw Research. "It's possible Apple wanted some reviews out early and those would be the more enthusiastic ones." He said YouTube reviewers tend to be more positive when given early access to devices, and that most reviews aren't overly negative. "Unless Apple felt like there would be some bad elements in the reviews, why would you hold back?" Mr. Dawson asked. "Why would you be selective about who gets it first?"

140 comments

  1. Timmah was quakin' in his boots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I'm happy, as a stockholder, that the iPhoneX is apparently selling stupidly well, I'm increasingly concerned about the lack of innovation and, worse, pushing animojis AS innovation.

    It's not surprising to me at all that he'd fall to this level of controlling the outputs and impressions as he knows he's got a lackluster product on his hands.
    LIVIN-A-LIE!
    Timmah!

    1. Re:Timmah was quakin' in his boots by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

      Butthurt Apple fanboi detected! Needs moar salt!

    2. Re:Timmah was quakin' in his boots by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Hmm. The first Youtube review I saw of the iPhone X had someone fired right away.

    3. Re:Timmah was quakin' in his boots by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      All review blogs and videos are paid for by manufacturers in one way or other. By providing early access they let the YouTuber make serious money off views/ads. People have to play nice to get early access the next time. Totally rigged. Guess it works.

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    4. Re: Timmah was quakin' in his boots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many of Geekizoid's editors and authors went on to start other sites

      JFC I wasted my life.

    5. Re:Timmah was quakin' in his boots by l33t+j03 · · Score: 0

      Don't believe a word of this you fuckers.

    6. Re: Timmah was quakin' in his boots by l33t+j03 · · Score: 0

      Me too, I could have been the captain of an entire army of misfit droolers, all 7 or 8 of them ready to debase themselves at my command. It would have increased my power at least 0.1fold.

    7. Re:Timmah was quakin' in his boots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, well, well... if it isn't ol' l33t j03. Been hiding in hidden sids with the other trolls?

      Note: Slashdot only allows a user with your karma to post 2 times per day (more or less, depending on moderation). You've already shared your thoughts with us that many times. Take a breather, and come back and see us in 24 hours or so. If you think this is unfair, please email posting@slashdot.org with your username "cyborg_monkey". Let us know how many comments you think you've posted in the last 24 hours.

    8. Re: Timmah was quakin' in his boots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No idea.. I quit talking to retards like Vlad.

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  2. Compromising their review process by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A quality review should be based on a period of real-world use of the product.
    Basically sounds like they're using their position to limit the scope of reviews that might otherwise have been more detailed.

    My suggestion would be that honest journalists would withhold their review until they got a decent amount of mileage out of the product;
    Only problem is sometimes the public listens to the FIRST source to write an article to make their decision rather than the better-researched,
    and a lot of people quite frankly don't even bother with reviews because it's Apple, they'll be in line the first day it's available....

    1. Re:Compromising their review process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple is merely going where the customers are.

      Traditional written reviews have lost influence. People get their product impressions from Youtube.

      I guess we can expect another barrage of "Youtubers are evil" articles from old media in the near future.

    2. Re:Compromising their review process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A quality review should be based on a period of real-world use of the product.
      Basically sounds like they're using their position to limit the scope of reviews that might otherwise have been more detailed.

      Yep. Early reviews are confirming that Face ID is AWFUL, taking several seconds to unlock the phone, and that the loss of the Home button is even more infuriating than you might expect, as accidentally triggering the home screen is now common.

      You know how movies that know they're going to bomb pull the same review shenanigans? Same thing.

      The iPhone X is a turd and Apple knows it.

    3. Re:Compromising their review process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Early reviews are confirming that Face ID is AWFUL

      They are?

      • "We've now had 24 hours with this, and it's far, far better than we were expecting, working flawlessly most of the time."
      • "Having spent time with Face ID in a variety of scenarios, we can confirm that it'll work with a simple glance on the go, in the pitch black, when you wake up and pretty much any time you look at your phone."
      • "Face ID worked perfectly in an almost completely dark room, too, lit only by the iPhone's screen."
      • "Face ID works so fast that if you're looking at the phone and swipe to unlock it, you might not even notice it's even active."
      • "When I was ready to buy a movie, I just tapped the right button on the phone twice, looked at it, and it verified my face and made the purchase. Easy."
      • "The good news is that Face ID mostly works great."
      • "Face ID is so fast I’m forgetting I have a passcode. Attention aware interactivity is the bomb."
      • "Face ID properly recognized my face when I wore a funky hat, sunglasses or both simultaneously. It also worked in the dark"
      • "Face ID’s accuracy is truly impressive. While you need to look at it squarely (it wouldn’t unlock when I held it up at an angle to the sides of my face), it’s swift and reliable, and I couldn’t trick it with a photograph of me."
    4. Re:Compromising their review process by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That's basically saying you're compromising a sieve's ability to hold water by drilling an additional hole in it.

      There are very few quality product reviews left that don't go out and hand the product back to Apple all sticky while breathing heavily and saying "it was amazing". iFixit's reviews are good but those are limited to a specific aspect of the product.

      Consumer reports... well they set their reputation on fire ages ago and poured gasoline over it this year just to make sure.

      By far the most reviews of anything seem to focus almost entirely of what the review likes about a product, and providing the likes are high enough they gloss over the things that make a product frustrating to use.

    5. Re:Compromising their review process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never trusted Consumer Reports for "tech" reviews. They are not nearly detailed enough for my taste.

    6. Re:Compromising their review process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Early reviews are confirming that Face ID is AWFUL

      They are?

      • "We've now had 24 hours with this, and it's far, far better than we were expecting, working flawlessly most of the time."
      • "Having spent time with Face ID in a variety of scenarios, we can confirm that it'll work with a simple glance on the go, in the pitch black, when you wake up and pretty much any time you look at your phone."
      • "Face ID worked perfectly in an almost completely dark room, too, lit only by the iPhone's screen."
      • "Face ID works so fast that if you're looking at the phone and swipe to unlock it, you might not even notice it's even active."
      • "When I was ready to buy a movie, I just tapped the right button on the phone twice, looked at it, and it verified my face and made the purchase. Easy."
      • "The good news is that Face ID mostly works great."
      • "Face ID is so fast I’m forgetting I have a passcode. Attention aware interactivity is the bomb."
      • "Face ID properly recognized my face when I wore a funky hat, sunglasses or both simultaneously. It also worked in the dark"
      • "Face ID’s accuracy is truly impressive. While you need to look at it squarely (it wouldn’t unlock when I held it up at an angle to the sides of my face), it’s swift and reliable, and I couldn’t trick it with a photograph of me."

      Just reposted because haters gonna hate.

  3. Scammed by Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably because after 24 hours people start wondering why they just paid $1,000 for a phone when models 2-3 years older do pretty much the exact same thing.

    Never buy a brand new item like this: phones, cars, homes; any major purchase like that. They sucker you in and you pay top dollar for something that immediately begins to depreciate, all for the sake of marketing hype. Buying the latest and greatest does not demonstrate that you are a high roller; it demonstrates that you are financially irresponsible and easily duped.

    Get a new iPhone 7 or even an iPhone 6 and it will be perfectly fine and a whole lot cheaper.

  4. Consume, consume, consume!!! by nwaack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's that you say? Spend $1000 on a phone based purely on a name with basically no real reviews to go on? Sure!!! -SMH

    1. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Spend $1000 on a phone based purely on a name with basically no real reviews to go on?

      I am married to one of these people. She wants an iPhone X for Christmas, despite knowing nothing about it, other than that it is the "new thing from Apple", and that she wants it before any of her friends have it. I already pre-ordered.

    2. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

      Generally the majority of reviews come out the Thursday before the release. This has been the case in past reviews and releases. This was simply a little light demo for some YouTube folks. It's no different than when they allowed media members a quick hands-on after the Keynote.

    3. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You better have honey, or I'm divorcing you!!! You better have gotten the right color you dumb shit!!!

    4. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      That's your fault for not telling her it would be financially irresponsible.

    5. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The sex had better be worth it to keep feeding that narcissism.

    6. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sounds like she's got you by the balls. Good luck man! She will clean you out of half your net worth soon enough

    7. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Spend $1000 on a phone based purely on a name with basically no real reviews to go on?

      I am married to one of these people. She wants an iPhone X for Christmas, despite knowing nothing about it, other than that it is the "new thing from Apple", and that she wants it before any of her friends have it. I already pre-ordered.

      It's not the blind worship of shiny new Apple thing that's hard to grasp here. That's actually very common. It's the fact that Apple marketing triggered a 12-year old mentality with that "wants it before any of her friends have it" shit.

    8. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by swb · · Score: 2

      To be honest, it's really only average, but knowing that her husband just bought her a new iPhone makes it better in a schadenfreude kind of way.

    9. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It's probably no more of a loss than going to a jewelry store and buying her a diamond at full retail. If you've got it and it makes her happy, spend it.

    10. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I already pre-ordered.

      A new wife?

    11. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She is your wife, it's your responsibility not to encourage her stupid behaviour, it's not dissimilar to having a junkie for a wife... would you feed them more crack? or get them to a clinic? I'm not saying everyone who buys Apple is a brainwashed fool, but when people blindly buy the latest whatever purely because it's the latest whatever... they have a consumerism problem.

    12. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, man.... It's just a phone.

      Sometimes people want silly things for bad reasons. Honestly, it's not the end of the world.

    13. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      You should buy her a Macbook Wheel! She is the perfect consumer for it.

    14. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not holding it right.

    15. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by rat_herder · · Score: 2

      At this point, why not? Their track record seems incredible. Unlike the pixel brand, whoops. New name next year?

    16. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      She will clean you out of half your net worth soon enough

      Perhaps. But she is a well-paid Silicon Valley engineer, and she makes more than I do. So if she only gets half I will still be ahead. She makes enough to pay for the iPhone X with two days' salary.

      I would rather buy her a new phone than have a non-nerd wife who wanted something even more pretentious, like jewelry. Her favorite earrings are made from the silicon die of her first IC design. I had the earrings made for less than $100.

    17. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      BestBuy was snagging $1100 and got busted on it.

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    18. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      What friend cares which phone you have these days? What a fucking bore.

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    19. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      The JEWlery is somewhat of an asset that can be resold in ten years. (Sorry, being slashdot I couldn't resist.)

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    20. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by fox171171 · · Score: 1

      The JEWlery is somewhat of an asset that can be resold in ten years. (Sorry, being slashdot I couldn't resist.)

      Not a good investment either. Diamonds in particular have very poor resale value. They aren't particularly rare. https://www.theatlantic.com/ma...

    21. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She wants a new iPhone, knows nothing about it, but is a Silicon Valley engineer?

    22. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The metals can be easily extracted and sold.

    23. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by blindseer · · Score: 2

      She wants a new iPhone, knows nothing about it, but is a Silicon Valley engineer?

      You apparently haven't met many engineers. I have. Engineers got where they are by expending a lot of mental energy on a narrow band of knowledge. I've met a lot of electrical and computer engineers that cannot be bothered to learn what I would consider very basic things on how the computers they use every day actually work. Many of these "power users" will have very powerful Linux workstations on their desk but when they go home to surf the web they'll do it on a ten year old Windows computer, an iPad, or avoid computers and simply open a beer and watch football on TV.

      What I do means I have to live part of my life in the world of engineers and part in the IT world. I will find myself baffled at the ignorance of an engineer about the computers they use everyday, and at the ignorance of IT staff on how the computers they support work, only to snap out of it and realize that they don't know this stuff because they don't have to.

      Engineers will buy into the brand recognition like anyone else. This might be cell phones, cars, sportball teams, clothes, or whatever else they think might matter with their friends.

      --
      I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    24. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in that case by an iphone for ever day of the week

    25. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you getting all bothered by how other people spend their money?

      Many out there by luxury cars new that depreciate tens of thousands of dollars each year. Are you going to complain about them for buying what they want? The guy has money, he's not makeing sub 80k/yr.

      Is it a stupid product, probably. Are most high end products bad investments, absolutely.

    26. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What friend cares which phone you have these days?

      You seem to care.

    27. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Is it me or are the majority of people who need to have the latest iPhone now! women?
      They don't care whether it has any improvements or if it's actually better than anything from other companies they just want the cool thing from the cool company

    28. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I was thinking. At least the IPhone will have resale value, diamonds are only worth anything because of marketing and some pretty extreme price manipulation going on in industry. If you want resale value, it'd either better be quite extraordinary (100+ karat diamond), or be made out of precious metals. And with precious metals, even then don't expect anything more than scrap.

    29. Re: Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^This. I'm a senior software engineer, making well into 6 figures (and not even in Silicon Valley, so 6 figures is significantly more). I know off the cuff if a request is possible on a given platform, I bounce from embedded C to angular based web apps and anywhere in between within a day. Ask me to configure a Linux box and I'll struggle. Tried to install arch once and gave it up as it wasn't worth my time. I spend 10-12 hours at work 5 to 6 days a week, the rare occasion I use a computer outside of work it's to build a new skill in an up and coming programming technology. I don't want to learn about the advantages and disadvantages of systemd, I'll just ask my coworkers who have to deal with it what their thoughts are (most of them think people are unfair to it and think it's generally an improvement over init, but mostly are just impartial). I'd much rather hang out on my friends back patio drinking a beer and shooting off fireworks than working on computers, I spend enough time on them at work thankyouverymuch.

    30. Re:Consume, consume, consume!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sex had better be worth it to keep feeding that narcissism.

      The sex is shit, but at least she gets an iPhone out of the narcissist.

  5. all hype and no substance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh look it is shiny and expensive

  6. It's not a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's a $1000 emoji machine.

    I weep for the future of our society.

    1. Re:It's not a phone by youngone · · Score: 1

      The cheapest iPhone X costs 1799 of my local dollars.
      If that sounds like a lot of money, that's because it is.

    2. Re:It's not a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just emojis; AnimojisTM. Trade mark stolen from another company; in typical apple fashion.

    3. Re:It's not a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a $1000 emoji machine.

      I weep for the future of our society.

      There's probably an emoji for that, but you will have to spend $1000 to find out

  7. How 'bout them apples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're complaining that you didn't get enough time to find anything wrong with the device. So...what I'm really hearing is, there's nothing wrong with the device. Mmm-k. Thx.

    1. Re:How 'bout them apples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...he said, boarding the Titanic.

  8. Here's why... by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    "Unless Apple felt like there would be some bad elements in the reviews, why would you hold back?" Mr. Dawson asked. "Why would you be selective about who gets it first?"

    Because, they would be reviewing the device "incorrectly" or "wrong."

    Remember when some late Senior Apple executive stated that some iPhone users were holding those devices wrong?

    1. Re:Here's why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of said former senior Apple executive...That seems to be the iPhone X's killer feature. Making Steve Jobs spin in his grave.

  9. Battery limitations contribute? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then again, I have that with my 6s thanks to ios11.

  10. What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm too busy watching Star Wars speeders in NYC to bother watching tech reviews. I've only seen it 30+ times so far today.

    1. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by darth+dickinson · · Score: 1

      Star Trek is cool.

    2. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Say We All

    3. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      I was so disappointed with what they did to Jabba the Hut in The Wrath of Khan. I couldn't even watch the whole episode.

    4. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 0

      I was so disappointed with what they did to Jabba the Hut in The Wrath of Khan. I couldn't even watch the whole episode.

      Do you how hard it is to get pizza takeout to Sigma Alpha 5?

    5. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...as hard as checking your crammar before hitting submit, Chris?

    6. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...as hard as checking your crammar before hitting submit, Chris?

      Que?

    7. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, spare us the Gino Conforti routine... Your crammar tonight is pretty bad:

      "Do you [INSERT MISSING WORD HERE, CHRIS] how hard it is to get pizza takeout"

      That's "que", Chris. Your crammar. You might have had a transient ischemic event in your brain at some point.

    8. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, spare us the Gino Conforti routine... Your crammar tonight is pretty bad:

      "Do you [INSERT MISSING WORD HERE, CHRIS] how hard it is to get pizza takeout"

      That's "que", Chris. Your crammar. You might have had a transient ischemic event in your brain at some point.

      The Creimer Troll ghetto is over here. Don't molest the goats on the way back.

    9. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Chris, the creimer ghetto is of your own making; that -1 karma that you earned yourself.

      You're a grown man now, you should be able to afford your own goats, the ones that Uncle "Bugfucker" Chuck kept all to himself when you were a kid!

      PS - Don't you have an amazing 500 page eBook to publish? The world eagerly awaits creimer's next bowel movement!

    10. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you weren't so obsessed with goat-fucking fat creimer, you may have noticed that the OP had the wrong name for the star system.

    11. Re:What iPhone X on YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, the whole point was that the references were "off".

      A fat man talks
      People walk away
      The fat man laughs alone

  11. "Why be selective about who gets it first"? by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe because they're not idiots and want to control their image / marketing.

    1. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe they are idiots because the media is now focusing one what a bunch of self absorbed twats Apple are.

    2. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Maybe because they're not idiots and want to control their image / marketing.

      What's to control when you're selling product to rabid sheep who flock to stores by the millions, demanding to get fleeced by a $1000 toy?

      As if a mere shitty review is gonna change their fucking mind...

    3. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      If their customers are sheep, who do you think does the herding?

    4. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

      I love how you said "mind", like it meant something.

    5. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by rat_herder · · Score: 1

      You sound angry. Have you noticed the same feelings about other people that are smarter than you?

    6. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      You sound angry. Have you noticed the same feelings about other people that are smarter than you?

      This is rather comical when discussing an electronic device that manufacturers were forced to idiot-proof in order to simply meet demand.

      The void of intelligence and common sense in society today is now large enough to warrant awards of Darwinian magnitude. I suppose this inexplicable devolution is often found to be frustrating to people smarter than you.

    7. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by rat_herder · · Score: 1

      More angry gibberish, you aren't 'discussing' anything. You could have just said 'yes'

    8. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      You sound angry.

      Have you looked through your own post history..?

    9. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      More angry gibberish, you aren't 'discussing' anything. You could have just said 'yes'

      Thank you for clarifying your value-add here, as well as confirming the void.

      Have a nice day.

    10. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by rat_herder · · Score: 1

      Should I? It sounds like you have. That's frankly a bit creepy.

    11. Re:"Why be selective about who gets it first"? by rat_herder · · Score: 1

      Cool. I confirmed what now? Thanks I'll try.

  12. I gotcher review right here... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    If you're stupid enough to fork out a grand on a phone that's only been reviewed by ass-kissers because you just can't stand to wait a little while, you have zero right to complain if the phone isn't everything you wanted.

    How long would it take reviewers with a track record you trust to give the device a good workout? That is the minimum time you should wait, unless you're a rich fanboi developing spending habits that will probably turn you into a poor fanboi sooner or later.

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  13. Guess their not proud of it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Usually when your proud of a product you want everyone to rave about it. But I guess maybe Apple has decided already the iPhone X is not so great. Or maybe only a small few Apple loyalist reviewers will toe the line and give it a good review. Typical Apple and nothing new for a company who relies on consumer impulse buying to advance their bottom line. I guess Apple will keep doing it as long as it works. I am beginning to wonder if the magic that Apple has had over consumers has waned significantly. Even with reviewers who are not so admired with Apple products these days.

  14. You have to ask this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Why would you be selective about who gets it first?"

    Because Apple, like all companies, has no interest in real reviews. They want to catch some drooling fanboi's who have a large following in Youtube so that "ZOMG teh iPhone is teh awesome". This is entirely about hype and marketing, and definitely not about someone giving a real, honest, and critical review of the damned product.

    If you insist on being a day-one consumer of a product, then you deserve to be the first one to discover all of the warts, shortcomings, and outright bad design decisions.

    But in the same way that Hollywood are a bunch of whiny cunts about something like Rotten Tomatoes pointing out their latest movie is shit, Apple has no real desire in giving people too much access to the product lest they same something bad about it. I'll also point out video games have been doing this for years, precisely to ensure people don't say "this game is crap" before product launch.

    I have no interest in being a beta tester. And these days, at product release, that's exactly what you are, and that is probably why Apple is making sure to limit longer access to the damned thing.

  15. Tripp Mickle by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    Dick Trickle's cousin?

  16. No shit? by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    said Jan Dawson, an analyst with Jackdaw Research. "It's possible Apple wanted some reviews out early and those would be the more enthusiastic ones."

    No shit? I can't believe what people get paid for sometimes.

    1. Re:No shit? by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      Just hope their testers daughters or sons happen to see it. They do it for free and you can see what happens, https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    2. Re:No shit? by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Ugh....I thought she was going to get naked but she just ended up crying.

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  17. Apple is currently just maintaining the illusion by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The illusion of them being innovative and having the best product. In actual reality, that has stopped a while ago or was never true in the first place, depending on the specific aspects. So they now lean heavily on the "cult" aspect of their marketing. It seems to work, this time again, because people are irrational and there are enough that will fall for the illusion. Of course, if Apple continues to not deliver anything but the illusion, eventually the whole house of cards will come crashing down.

    Now, don't get me wrong. I have absolutely no problem with people that buy an iPhone in order to feel better about themselves. It is their money and if they do feel better about themselves as a result of how they spent that money, then that is money well spent. The problem I have is that the current strategy makes Apple less and less viable as an alternative and may even kill Apple as a company in the longer term. An Android mono-culture would be very bad for everybody though and that is why I think that Apple urgently needs to get back to making good technology and actually being innovative, instead of just doing excellent marketing.

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  18. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny. Google is an Advertising company. You'd think they could market their "superior" product better.

  19. Earned Credit by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Apple has earned enough goodwill from a lot of people through the previous iterations of the iPhone, that for the most part they are willing to buy a $1000 phone and not really see it as a risk. They know generally it will work pretty well, and support will be good - just like for all Apple Products.

    It's obviously true that any new product is going to have some unforeseen hiccups. I'm sure we'll be seeing some amusing stories about FaceID... but even from just the few videos out so far, it all seems to work fairly well and for the majority of people ordering will probably work as advertised.

    Myself, I'm looking forward to being able to unlock and use a phone without taking off gloves. You could do it with a passcode of course but it kind of deflates theo whole reason you get a phone with a more advanced authentication mechanism.

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    1. Re:Earned Credit by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The sad thing is when it seems like Apple is cashing in on that goodwill, rather than building on it. We shall see.

    2. Re:Earned Credit by goose-incarnated · · Score: 0

      Apple has earned enough goodwill from a lot of people through the previous iterations of the iPhone [...] They know generally it will work pretty well [...]

      "1 + 2 + 3" (too fast, try again)

      "I thought my bluetooth+Wifi was off"

      "You're holding it wrong"

      "Nevermind, we'll just use google maps to find a route."

      Apple users may have many reasons for queuing up for the latest iPhone. "Works well" is not one of those reasons.

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    3. Re:Earned Credit by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Yeah. No hiccups allowed for a god damned $1000 FaceBook machine.

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    4. Re:Earned Credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That "good will" is long past its expiration date.

    5. Re:Earned Credit by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Troll

      5-6 week shipping delays for an iPhoneX disagree with you.

      Even if they are supply constrained (which they are), that is still a LOT of people taking Apple's word for what the iPhone X will do.

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  20. Apple is the pinnacle of design! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why, just look at the sleek elegance of the iPhone X! So thin, it'll probably bend if you accidentally have it in your pocket when you sit down. Apple continues the "courage" of not having a 3.5mm headphone jack, (but!) it can be replaced with a bulky adapter that creates a new aesthetic! And just look at that edge-to-edge display with the courageous notch left out for the speaker. It gives you most of the functionality of the iPhone 6, but at a reasonable $1000. You won't find this price tag at Samsung (yet)!

  21. Confused are you by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Informative

    So thin, it'll probably bend if you accidentally have it in your pocket

    Nope, thicker than the plus models, and the glass back means you won't be bending it any time soon.

    (but!) it can be replaced with a bulky adapter

    Or you can just use the included headphones or any wireless headphones with no adaptor... apparently it wasn't much of an issue for those hundreds of millions buying an iPhone 7, right?

    And just look at that edge-to-edge display with the courageous notch left out for the speaker.

    The speakers are not in the top bar, that is basically an entire Kinect, which no other phone has anything like... since it fits where the status bar goes on every other phone why the freakout? In fact I would think Slashdot of all place would welcome the notch, because it pushed out carrier branding from the status bar to eliminate subtle advertising you see every day...

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    1. Re:Confused are you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      welcome the notch, because it pushed out carrier branding from the status bar to eliminate subtle advertising you see every day

      Ah, now I see the reason for it. Now it makes sense. Sorry, we'd put your carrier brand on our phone, but now it doesn't fit you see.

    2. Re:Confused are you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without a speaker cutout at the top, from where would you hear the other person speaking while on a phone call?

  22. And THIS is Why Kevin Spacey Is Now GAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can HIRE a gigalo, or you can MARRY a whore (so often the way that works; apologies to the lucky ones)!

  23. The only review that matters by Cochonou · · Score: 2

    The iPhone X, will it blend ?

    1. Re:The only review that matters by Lothsahn · · Score: 1

      I can only have it for one day? Not a problem!

      "iPhone X dust. Don't breathe this!"

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    2. Re:The only review that matters by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      They made so much money from people cracking the screen that they could not resist cladding the back in glass as well. I went without a case on my S8+ for a week and smashed the glass back. Previous Samsung models hit the concrete many many times without even a scratch--no case.

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  24. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They did some good things once, like the uni-body idea, that really helped push all laptop manufacturers to improve their designs greatly... but now all we get is tacky market orientated design crap like destroying the keyboard with a slice of useless touchscreen. Maybe it's some other companies turn to do actual innovation now they are back in the soda drink phase.

  25. Apple thinks it's a poor product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple thinks people aren't going to like it.

    If you trust their judgement, you should avoid buying this one. (But c'mon, you're probably not surprised. The chances that any one particular manufacturer model is a good fit for any particular person, is pretty damn small. Everyone has differing opinions of what makes a good phone, which is why there are probably hundreds of possible "best phones" and any two people almost never agree.)

    OTOH if you think they don't have a clue what users want, then this particular product may still possibly be good for you. They are merely thinking it's a bad phone, but that's a matter of opinion.

    Purely out of mischeviousness, I will now link to tvtropes' article on this subject.

  26. Re: Apple is currently just maintaining the illusi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering Android's monster market share, I don't really see the problem.

  27. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by rat_herder · · Score: 1

    Just FYI, you actually wrote all that in a public forum. On the internet. Forever. Good job.

  28. Carrier Branding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, I believe that is a visual indicator of which network you're connected to or roaming on, not a rolling billboard for your carrier.

  29. Top ten requirements for a $1k smartphone by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 2

    1) I have root access and can remove all the bloat / spyware that comes pre-installed from the carrier
    2) I can move between carriers
    3) It has a removable battery
    4) The camera / microphone have dedicated hardware switches that enable / disable them
    5) It is somewhat waterproof ( Don't need to dive with it, but some rain protection is nice )
    6) It has a standardized connector ( USB-C ) and a GD headphone jack
    7) The call quality / reliability is on par with a landline
    8) It isn't so damn big that it comes with optional leather straps so you can use it as a shield
    9) A fast and unthrottled data plan, similar to my standard home internet plan
    10) Moving music, photos, video ( or any files ) does not require I-Tunes. Just plug in with USB cable and go.

    *Extra bonus if it doesn't come saddled with a contract and / or ludicrous costs for their overpriced phone / data plans.

    Meet this fairy tale list of requirements and I might consider one of your shiny gadgets.

    Maybe

    1. Re:Top ten requirements for a $1k smartphone by rat_herder · · Score: 1

      Many smart phones and mobile plans meet quite a few of your frankly odd criteria. Apples phones certainly would, Including number 10, which has not been an issue for quite a few years now... Unfortunately for you there are no decent smartphones out there that will meet all of them. Number 4 would be nice but won't happen. I'm pretty sure there would be cases out there that could achieve this.

    2. Re:Top ten requirements for a $1k smartphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what are you using in the meantime until your fairytale phone emerges, crafted especially for you?

      BTW - an analysis:

      1) If that's the reason you need root access then iPhone meets it - no carrier bloatware to remove
      2) A carrier / purchase option, related to 9) not specific to phone at all.
      3) Good luck with that - with _any_ modern smartphone. Also, increasingly, why??
      4) Best of the lot but not going to happen.
      5) Now a very common "feature" - almost not worth mentioning
      6) How many millions of devices need to be out there before you will consider something 'standard' ?
      7) Also carrier related
      8) Mmm Ok...
      9) Not related to phone at all - just to how you purchase it.
      10) as pointed out - this hasn't been a problem for many years with iPhones.

      To get awesome technology this cheaply means that you have to allow manufacturers to sell millions of them. They are tailored for the millions, not you.

    3. Re:Top ten requirements for a $1k smartphone by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      1) I have root access

      I got to number 1 on the list and straight away you demonstrated to every marketing person that you are an odd case, not at all even remotely representative of their customer base and that your desires will be completely ignored going forward.

    4. Re:Top ten requirements for a $1k smartphone by Jaegs · · Score: 1

      If those are your requirements, boy do I have a car for you:

      https://vignette.wikia.nocooki...

      Seriously, though, some of these things are seemingly mutually exclusive:

      3) It has a removable battery
      4) The camera / microphone have dedicated hardware switches that enable / disable them
      6) It has a standardized connector ( USB-C ) and a GD headphone jack

      vs.

      5) It is somewhat waterproof ( Don't need to dive with it, but some rain protection is nice )

      These things are really hard to do and keep to this requirement:

      8) It isn't so damn big that it comes with optional leather straps so you can use it as a shield

      Regarding #1, that's the nice thing about an iPhone: I've never had any crapware installed by my carrier. It's one of the reasons that my primary phone is an iPhone, as Verizon loves to bloat it's Android phones. As for #2, just buy an unlocked phone, of any variety, and you will not have this problem.

      As for #10, I really dislike iTunes, but still use it; however, there are alternatives, such as MediaMonkey.

  30. It costs 20,000 Mexican pesos, so what? by Brannon · · Score: 1

    That's just how currency works.

  31. We're only allowed to spend money by Brannon · · Score: 1

    on items blessed by the smug /. technorati. Didn't you know? I'm going to go order my platinum neckbeard trimmer now.

  32. While you're at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much does it cost in East German Marks?

  33. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by gweihir · · Score: 1

    And only pseudonymously in addition. Your point?

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  34. Becaus the product sucks of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 8 is not selling and if you saw the picture gallery on CNET you know the camera would have to be described as unimpressive. There are other, better toys to spend the thousand dollars on this season.

  35. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by rat_herder · · Score: 1

    That was my point. The argument you posit was so devoid of anything factual or original it could have been knocked out by a team of poorly trained monkeys. Yet you attached your actual name to it. Embarrassingly i'd guess it more likely a human who hasn't yet reached intellectual adolescence but counter intuitively somehow mastered the ability to document his or her 'opinions' with reasonable clarity.

  36. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by gweihir · · Score: 1

    You are funny, but obviously utterly disconnected from reality. A typical state for a cult-member, sadly. Well, have fun in your echo chamber while it last.

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  37. Slashdot Echo Chamber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hilarious to read all the comments on this story, and how they absolutely don't reflect what people that have used the device are saying.

    Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate.

    Disclaimer: I have not preordered, nor will I be buying an iPhone X. I do prefer actual evidence before making conclusions though, unlike so many around here.

  38. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by rat_herder · · Score: 1

    Not a reasonable assessment? I'm not in any cult i'm aware of.

  39. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by samwichse · · Score: 1

    The illusion of them being innovative and having the best product. In actual reality, that has stopped a while ago or was never true in the first place, depending on the specific aspects. So they now lean heavily on the "cult" aspect of their marketing. It seems to work, this time again, because people are irrational and there are enough that will fall for the illusion. Of course, if Apple continues to not deliver anything but the illusion, eventually the whole house of cards will come crashing down.

    Check mate.

  40. Consistent with past behaviour by Gonoff · · Score: 1

    Very few people buy a new iThing based on thought and analtysis of information. (That can be said of Android devices to some extent too.)

    Getting advice from other uninformed Apple enthusiasts has always accounted for a high proportiion of iPhone sales. The problem is that Apples market % is dropping. For years now, they have been protected by the fact that the market is growing so their sales numbers go up.

    They know that this cannot continue for ever so they may be looking to reinvigorate the advertising channel that has served them so well in the past.

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  41. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cult members never realize they are in a cult. They just consider their new programming to be normal.
    Please look out for the warning signs http://www.esama.ca/warning-signs-that-you-are-in-a-cult

  42. This is why I got out of tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The industry is no longer the domain of nerds, of those who are interested in technology's beneficial application.

    The tech industry has become like the fashion industry, being driven by lifestyle and narcissism, now. It's about demonstrating that you were the first to appreciate the truly splendorous sophistication of the emperor's new clothes.

    Hipsters are a more common site (at least at MS, Amazon, etc. here in Seattle) than nerds are. Being cool is more important than being, and doing, right.

  43. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by rat_herder · · Score: 1

    haha, yep checked it out. Not in a cult, confirmed.

  44. Huh? by garote · · Score: 2

    You want a removable battery because ... why?

    Battery-pack cases, and spare waterproof battery-pack chargers, are rampant. You're afraid the battery will "wear out" before your phone does?

    Well, a USB-C port was first placed on a smartphone only two years ago. Your desired connector standard is so new that any phone you bought supporting it has not had a proper chance to "wear out" its battery, and half of those phones are still under warranty.

    And yet, this port standard is a deal breaker for you now that it's around?

    Perhaps you need to admit that you are just as susceptible to the fast pace of innovation in the smartphone world as all the other people you scoff at. Perhaps those people you think are acting based on "marketing" have their own list of must-have features that is just as arbitrary as your own.

  45. Here we go again. by garote · · Score: 1

    Some people say Apple is successful only because of their fashionable marketing. You know what's fashionable marketing -- what never gets old? Loudly declaring that Apple is finally on the decline, or has been for years despite absolutely sky-high profits. And letting the ad impressions and the comments roll in, because hey, maybe THIS time, maybe we'll be right. And maybe THIS time congress will repeal Obamacare. And maybe THIS time, when we toss the poodle out the window, it'll fly.

    1. Re:Here we go again. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You should cut back on the drugs.

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  46. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Well, you obviously were an easy victim.

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  47. that is... by sad_ · · Score: 1

    ... because the phone is nothing special.
    ofcourse it is well designed and shiny and very bling and it will probably 'wow' you for a day, after which you realise it's just a phone like any other, might just have well bought the normal iphone instead.

    by limiting the time reviewers have with the phone, they stay within the 'wow' phase, giving positives reviews.

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  48. Re:Apple is currently just maintaining the illusio by rat_herder · · Score: 1

    It's obvious is it? Such insight.