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Some iPhone X Displays Plagued By Mysterious 'Green Line of Death' (thenextweb.com)
Some iPhone X owners are reporting a random green line appearing on their displays. According to The Next Web, "the defect has already started to take on the endearing 'Green Line of Death' moniker." From the report: Several users across Apple forums and social media have reported the error -- I've counted over a dozen accounts, and MacRumors mentions it's read "at least 25" such reports. Oddly, the issue doesn't appear to affect users immediately, only showing up after some time with regular usage. In some cases it alternates with a purple line, for variety. It generally appears towards the right or left sides of the display, and sometimes it simply disappears altogether. Weird. Either way, it appears to be a hardware defect affecting a small number of users, and Apple appears to be replacing affected units. Mac Rumors first reported the issue.
Oh, come on, really? We have to have “of death”? It’s just a thin line, jeez.
Do the phones crash when the line appears? If not, this name makes absolutely no sense.
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Green line of death, but only because the Slashdot effect was already taken.
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So, 25 reports, out of how many (hundred thousands / millions)? It can be green or purple, on the left or right side. And, Apple is replacing those that exhibit the problem.
Is a 25/100000+ failure rate really significant for a brand new device, for any product outside of life critical medical ones?
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Samsung is making more money on iPhone X than on their Galaxy phones. If Apple wins a lawsuit, they will get back some of the money they paid Samsung for their engineering capabilities, which Apple doesn't have. Its' the Circle of Life.
lucm, indeed.
You are holding it wrong.
They will just change the design rules and ask developers to add a big green sidebar, like they did for the notch.
lucm, indeed.
It takes courage to show a green line of death.
Actually this this line is a consequence of apple trying to make the screen better.
I mean, we already have that massive black issue on the top of the screen on basically all the devices.
The Galaxy S7 Edge has a similar defect where a vertical pink line appears on many units. Do an image search or eBay search for that and you'll see what I mean. Given that Apple is using Samsung OLED panels for the X (which is what the S7 Edge is using) it makes me wonder if Samsung has a bigger QC problem on their hands.
I'd tell you to hand it in, but you clearly never had one.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You see this failure mode in Samsung phones with an OLED display. And the iPhone X uses a Samsung display.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Seems like it is a bad vertical line driver looking at this.
https://us.community.samsung.c...
One of the vertical line drivers is stuck 'on'. So you get a line mostly in one of the primary colours - R, G or B. Or, less common, a combination of the two.
My S5 is still fine, but for some reason I've seen a few people with battered looking S7s and S8s with the vertical line. Not sure if the battering causes the failure or if some display panels just fail spontaneously.
Incidentally, there's an amusing bit of Apple overcharging for glass
https://www.theverge.com/circu...
The iPhone X went on sale today, and with it, Apple released some information about the phoneâ(TM)s repair pricing â" and like the phone itself, it gets expensive. If you donâ(TM)t have the extended warranty, a screen replacement will cost $279. Thatâ(TM)s more than twice the price of an iPhone 6 screen replacement ($129) and about 65 percent higher than a new iPhone 8 screen ($169). The pricing was first spotted by MacRumors.
If that sounds high, you should be careful not to damage an iPhone X in any other way: all other out-of-warranty repairs will cost $549. Again, thatâ(TM)s a lot more than what other recent iPhones cost to repair. iPhone 8 repairs cost $349 and 8 Plus repairs cost $399. That means if you crack the glass back of the iPhone X (or the iPhone 8), you might just want to live with it.
Appleâ(TM)s extended warranty, AppleCare+, often looks like a pricey upsell. But for iPhone X buyers, it seems like it might be a necessary safety net. Appleâ(TM)s warranty costs $199 for the iPhone X (up from $129 for the iPhone 8 and $149 for the 8 Plus); but while the warranty itself is more expensive, warranty service fees (which apply only when Apple is repairing something with âoeaccidental damageâ) donâ(TM)t go up at all. So an iPhone X can still get a $29 screen repair if itâ(TM)s under warranty, and it can still get a $99 repair for anything else under AppleCare+, too.
So it's $279 for a replacement display out of warranty. Or $29 with warranty. And the warranty costs $199. And all other repairs are a whopping $549.
So if you're the sort of person who cracks the display on your phone, you're going to be paying through the nose for it.
IHS reckons the display assembly is
http://www.businesswire.com/ne...
IHS Markit estimates the cost of the display module, which includes the cover glass, AMOLED panel and Force Touch sensor, at $110.
I.e. Apple make a fair bit of profit out of people dropping their phones. Arguably the reason Apple and Samsung have moved to glass front and back is that glass breaks and repairs are profitable. Also, especially in the Samsung case, it's hard to take the phone apart without damaging expensive bits if you look at the iFixit videos.
I reckon I could get a whole new, or at least 'pre-owned' S5 for less than $279 if I looked around a bit.
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Samsung is making more money on iPhone X than on their Galaxy phones.
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Both Samsung and Apple sell high end devices for at least 100% markup. E.g.
http://news.ihsmarkit.com/pres...
After $5.90 in basic manufacturing costs are added, Samsung's total cost to make the Galaxy S8 rises to $307.50; the unsubsidized price for a 64GB Galaxy S8 starts at around $720. The preliminary estimated total at this point is $43.34 higher than that of the Galaxy S7 previously performed by IHS Markit, and is $36.29 higher than the total build cost of the Galaxy S7 Edge, considered a better comparison to the Galaxy S8. IHS Markit has not yet performed a teardown analysis on the larger Galaxy S8 Plus.
So Samsung spends $307 BOM cost and the device sells for $720, i.e. they make about $413.
Now IHS reckon for an iPhone X
http://www.businesswire.com/ne...
LONDON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Teardown engineers at IHS Markit (Nasdaq: INFO) have completed their preliminary physical dissection of the new Apple iPhone X and found that the model A1865 version of the smartphone with 64 gigabytes (GB) of NAND memory carries a bill of materials (BOM) of $370.25.
With a starting price of $999, the iPhone X is $50 more than the previous most expensive iPhone, the 8 Plus 256 GB. As another point of comparison, Samsung's Galaxy S8 with 64 GB of NAND memory has a BOM of $302 and retails at around $720.
We don't know what Samsung charges for a display. IHS estimates it costs Apple $110 for the display assembly "which includes the cover glass, AMOLED panel and Force Touch sensor". And we don't know at all what AMOLEDs cost Samsung to make.
Still it's hard to see how they could make more money selling displays to Apple - who bargain hard on price - than it could selling them in its own handsets.
Maybe you could argue that selling more high end displays in Apple devices is better for Samsung than selling low end ones in mid market phones like the J7/A7 etc.
I'm not convinced though.
Of course for a megacorp like Samsung it makes sense if all the bits of the corporation try to maximize their profitability individually. I.e. the display part should sell to Apple if it makes money doing it even if the phone part would rather it did not. The alternative - where the phone part can stop the display part selling to Apple by appealing to its sense of patriotism - is very bad. But not uncommon among megacorps.
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So Samsung spends $307 BOM cost and the device sells for $720, i.e. they make about $413.
Shipping and retail markup are BOM items, now?
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Why do people still spend so much on Apple product? Sure, iOS is nice and such, but the hardware is grossly overpriced and more and more of rather shitty quality. A phone that cost that much should not only be free of all and any defects, but come with a no questions asked warranty. All products ought to have a minimum of two year all inclusive warranty. The EU has that.
I would say Apple is probably violating a Samsung patent on this one.
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Let me guess you have no business experience.
The BOM doesn’t cover the full cost of a device. There is R&D which means years of trial and error (Error being expensive and not shown in the cost) all for a limited run of about a year. Where custom machinery is needed for a small amount of time. People trained and hired...
You can have 100% markup and still sell at a loss.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You';re mixing fixed and variable costs together. There's no point, for example, in including R&D costs, since they are amortized over however many phones are sold. Except in retrospect, they're an unknown part of each phone. Judging markup by cost minus the cost to make each phone is reasonably objective and informative.
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