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New Windows Search Interface Borrows Heavily From MacOS (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Press clover-space on a Mac (aka apple-space or command-space to Apple users) and you get a search box slap bang in the middle of the screen; type things into it and it'll show you all the things it can find that match. On Windows, you can do the same kind of thing -- hit the Windows key and then start typing -- but the results are shown in the bottom left of your screen, in the Start menu or Cortana pane. The latest insider build of Windows, build 17040 from last week, has a secret new search interface that looks a lot more Mac-like. Discovered by Italian blog Aggiornamenti Lumia, set a particular registry key and the search box appears in the middle of the screen. The registry key calls it "ImmersiveSearch" -- hit the dedicated key, and it shows a simple Fluent-designed search box and results. This solution looks and feels a lot like Spotlight on macOS.
The thing I don't get about Windows 10 is its continual upgrade. This means there is always changes to the UI, which can get annoying... Sure I like a change in UI for my home system, but that is me and I like trying new things, but I have seen users stop in Panic because I have changed the background from #3366CC to #0033CC just so the white text would be easier to see. I had to deal with many angry emails from this change.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Srsly?
There is not a single element of the Windows UI that does not borrow heavily from Mac. What is Apple going to do, sue them? They already tried.
Instead of focusing on this stuff, Apple should instead focus on making a decent piece of hardware: like a keyboard that doesn't suck. I'm sure someone in the world likes that keyboard, but there don't seem to be many.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
It's worth noting that Apple copied Spotlight's current interface from an app called Quicksilver. Sherlock, Apple's previous search interface (also cribbed by Windows), was taken from an app called Watson. While I'm at it, don't forget that iBooks was copied from Delicious Library and then later reproduced across with Windows ecosystem.
It's the circle of life.
I'd turn off and never use...
It's mentioned on the 2nd page of search-results and it, erm... points directly back to this article.
Anyway, I guess we all finally learned what "CMD" means after all these years.
Uh, keyboard launchers have done this forever on both Linux and Windows. Let's not make this another thing we falsely believe to be an Apple invention.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
There is definitely some irony in an article about the GUI having its images not load.
Breaking news! The ghost of Steve Jobs has been secretly running Apple via an Italian what-I-imagine formerly Lumia/Windows Phone focused blog. More at 11.
that is known since the 80s as the "splat" key. n00b5, anyway....
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
It will distracting especially if it come up over everything else blocking views of my windows. Also, it will prolly be akin to a UAC prompt which you will only be able to interact with it alone.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
'Except they aren't copying Apple...
It's an old UI paradigm. It's been implemented since 1996 (and probably earlier), and has multiple implementations including two in KDE alone (to say nothing of the dozens of others that exist in Windows, Mac and Linux).
The only interesting thing here is that Microsoft is baked one into Windows, just like Apple did; and in both cases, they did it years after third-parties did it...
-- Sometimes you have to turn the lights off in order to see.
What the hell? Press Start button on any Windows PC, start typing, it does the same thing as Spotlight and it has done so for as long as I can recall.
Welcome to the current year, where despite having access to the INTERNET, the amount of ignorance from FAGs is so rampant, it's spreading into everyday life. Moving from Mac OS to Windows was the best thing I could have done, as it's at least a clear separation from all the FAGs that still masturbate to their ignorance about OSs in general.
If you want to have a Windows versus Mac OS discussion, where as who borrowed from you, you're 20 years too late you! FAGs!!!
QuickSilver started off in 2003, and is a knockoff of LaunchBar, which has been around for NeXSTEP since 1996.
Launchy started ~2007 or so.
To say nothing of the dozens of others for Linux, Windows, and Mac.
It's a useful (and popular) enough interface that both Apple and Microsoft baked it into their OS.
-- Sometimes you have to turn the lights off in order to see.
Even "everything" isn't particularly good compared to it.
Why can't people develop a powerful search? I want to include an exclude file types, search within size ranges, specify a path to search, etc.
Locate32 still does this, I think the latest build is 3.1 RC3m 11.7100 - it's sadly abandoned but does the job flawlessly..
I'd bet dollars to donuts, without even looking, that the Microsoft search looks flashy and 'clean' with very little tweakability to it. (example, I index my NAS drives)
Copy. That's what innovation amounts to in MS. So, no news here.
It looks like shit.
... It's good to know that Microsoft has yet to be accused of tasteful UI design.
What is wrong with the search on the start menu.
The only thing I can think of is that the center of the screen is also the center of attention.
LaunchBar (and QuickSilver, Launcy, whatever clone you pick for whatever OS) are useful for a lot more than just launching programs, which is why they're so popular.
Has Linux improved any in the 'having games worth playing' front?
Depends on your tastes, of course. The following is a selection that covers simulations, racing games, FPS games, strategy games, survival horror...
* Anything from Valve
Strategy:
* Civilization 5 & 6
* Civilization Beyond Earth
* XCOM 1 & 2
FPS:
* Borderlands 2 & DLC
* Outlast
* Alien Isolation
* The Metro Series
* Dying Light
* Rust
* ARK: Survival Evolved
Racing/Driving
* GRID Autosport
* DiRT Rally
* F1 2017
* Rocket league
-- Sometimes you have to turn the lights off in order to see.
The cool thing on steam, you own the game licence so, whether you play on Linux or Windows, it is the same thing to steam, so a whole bunch of people own a whole range of Linux games without them realising it (they are just 'temporarily' playing them on windows).
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
There were Apples before Macs; show some respect for your elders. And get off my lawn.
And, of course, thereâ(TM)s Steamâ(TM)s remote play capability, and NVIDIAâ(TM)s cloud gaming.
I can see remote rendering becoming serious business - no console to buy, no expensive gaming rig. Just stream to an tablet or phone with a Bluetooth controller.
It may not do for latency-sensitive games like multiplayer FPSâ(TM)s, but 40-80 ms of latency isnâ(TM)t an experience killer for an awful lot of games.
Having used remote rendering for games, I can say first-hand: itâ(TM)s not perfect, but not having to buy multiple $1000 GPUâ(TM)s to render at full detail has its charm.
-- Sometimes you have to turn the lights off in order to see.
If you search for 'documents' on an OSX machine it take you to documents on your computer. If you search 'documents' on a windows computer, it will open a non-default web browser, a substandard search engine and start searching for your local files on the web
Microsoft search is broken. It was okish in Win7. But something changed and now trying to search the pc for basic features like ‘accounts’ or ‘user’ will confuse the fuck out of me.
Spotlight is fucking amazing, quick and packed full of useful OS features. The two are just not the same at all.
Quicksilver on OSX with its extensiblity and key learning is still better than spotlight.
Search is for retards who don't know where they put their shit. Like Mac users.
Want to cripple a computer's performance? Don't disable search indexing. No fucking thank you.
I know exactly where I put my shit.
Apple's search indexing is completely unobtrusive, except in the first couple of days after a major rev. OS upgrade.
Copying Apple has worked for 30 years. Why quit now?
http://applemuseum.bott.org/se...
Yep, like this never gets old!
https://youtu.be/N-2C2gb6ws8
Nope, when I hit Windows and search for Documents I get my Documents folder. Oh, I'm using Windows 7, not that pile of shit they're shipping now.
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
1) Windows+S to open search
2) type "documents"
3) press Enter
4) My Documents opens in a file explorer Window
This is on Windows 10. What are you talking about?
Yes all this stuff was tucked neatly away in the menus. Now we have readable icons.....
love is just extroverted narcissism
I just install agent ransack and use that instead. I was fine with the Windows 2000 search, which was the same as search in Windows versions before it for the most part. I could even tolerate the extra clicks and brutally slow dog animation introduced to it in XP. But later versions of search fail to find files I know are there so it doesn't really matter if they're fast or indexed or whatever.
Putting a search textbox in the middle of the screen is hardly borrowing heavily from Apple any more than they tried to pull that shit with anything with a rectangle is Apple. Fuck off with that shit. This is not Wired.