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The Silicon Valley Paradox: One In Four People Are At Risk of Hunger (theguardian.com)
Zorro shares a report from The Guardian: One in four people in Silicon Valley are at risk of hunger, researchers at the Second Harvest food bank have found. Using hundreds of community interviews and data modeling, a new study suggests that 26.8% of the population -- almost 720,000 people -- qualify as "food insecure" based on risk factors such as missing meals, relying on food banks or food stamps, borrowing money for food, or neglecting bills and rent in order to buy groceries. Nearly a quarter are families with children. "We call it the Silicon Valley paradox," says Steve Brennan, the food bank's marketing director. "As the economy gets better we seem to be serving more people." Since the recession, Second Harvest has seen demand spike by 46%. The bank is at the center of the Silicon Valley boom -- both literally and figuratively. It sits just half a mile from Cisco's headquarters and counts Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg among its major donors. But the need it serves is exacerbated by this industry's wealth; as high-paying tech firms move in, the cost of living rises for everyone else.
The scale of the problem becomes apparent on a visit to Second Harvest, the only food bank serving Silicon Valley and one of the largest in the country. In any given month it provides meals for 257,000 people -- 66m pounds of food last year. Because poverty is often shrouded in shame, their clients' situations can come as a surprise. "Often we think of somebody visibly hungry, the traditional homeless person," Brennan said. "But this study is putting light on the non-traditional homeless: people living in their car or a garage, working people who have to choose between rent and food, people without access to a kitchen."
The scale of the problem becomes apparent on a visit to Second Harvest, the only food bank serving Silicon Valley and one of the largest in the country. In any given month it provides meals for 257,000 people -- 66m pounds of food last year. Because poverty is often shrouded in shame, their clients' situations can come as a surprise. "Often we think of somebody visibly hungry, the traditional homeless person," Brennan said. "But this study is putting light on the non-traditional homeless: people living in their car or a garage, working people who have to choose between rent and food, people without access to a kitchen."
They are paying around $36,000 in property taxes a year in Silicon Valley.
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I know it may come as a shock to you but a lot of people are skeptical when you come out of the woodwork on the eve of an election and make claims with forged or no proof of some illicit activity decades ago. Some people might not believe you. Imagine that.
It is a D admin. California is a D state run by Jerry Brown and Democrats. Given their love of socialism I find it hard to understand how they let this happen. They need to raise taxes and take the money from the wealthy to feed these poor people.
Between 3-4 pm in the afternoon, unless I make it to a 7-11 on schedule.
Otoh, 95% of /. stories are at risk of being pure garbage, regardless of time of day.
Silicon Valley has some of the most draconian development regulations in the US (part of it is a field used for grazing cows). And when you can't develop, you can't build houses and apartments to build up the existing housing stock, and people end up living in cars and garages. Silicon Valley won't become exactly affordable, but at least people will have more places to live at lower rents and prices.
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But, but, how can I be outraged about that? Look, my outrage is the most important thing here. Well, so is burning someone at the stake. It doesn't really matter who it is or if the accusation is true or not.
Signed,
WAY too many people.
They use the terms "at risk" and "food insecure" but fail to specifically define the terms. It is a far cry from "starving". So, if you are overweight, but occasionally get hungry and are not immediately able to sate your hunger, you are food insecure. I say we stick to defined terms like "starving" and "malnourished" not BS like "food insecure".
Considering what it costs to rent, based on me (I cook, don't eat out, don't eat frozen food), if they are spending more than 10% of their monthly outgo on food they're idiots.
The real headline should be "1 in 4 are at risk of being homeless".
The rental in the Silicon Valley area are ridiculously high, and one reason being there are way too many people competing for the housing
If we move those 25% out we can help them (those who are at risk of hunger) lower their spending (by not having to put up with the ridiculous high housing cost) and in the meantime clear out 25% of the available housing for those who can afford to eat
Will the government do it? I am afraid the answer is a flat "NO !!"
I see you have taken the republican approach of pretending that your refusal to believe overwhelming evidence of child molestation means that it didn't happen
Your child molesting senate candidate was banned from shopping malls for harassing young girls, but republicans never pass up an opportunity to vote for a child molester that shares their values.
Please allow me to apologize for expecting that your support for a child molesting republican was a sign for your support for a child molester, rather than a sign of your refusal to acknowledge blatant child molestation.
Starving in a gutter in Silicon Valley? Do something else! But never stop coding for free.
Living in poverty in Silicon Valley? Get a retail job! But never stop coding for free.
Can't make a living in Silicon Valley? Live on government welfare! But never stop coding for free.
You read the GNU Manifesto and you believed it? Too bad! Richard Matthew Stallman is a raving communist sci-fi nutjob.
Never stop coding for free.
Believe in GNU.
Die poor.
Yeah, what kind of a man is outraged at child molestation? Not a Republican, that's for sure.
If there is one thing that republicans continually demonstrate it's that they support child molesters.
Roy Moore was banned from malls for harassing underage girls, and several of the children he molested have come forward on the record...
But republicans never pass up an opportunity to vote for a child molester that shares their values.
Telecommuting would solve a lot of this problem because then people could live where it's affordable and not where it's convenient for the employer.
> ... Your child molesting senate candidate was banned from shopping malls for harassing young girls ...
Telling lies will never transform you into a good person
https://www.snopes.com/2017/11/17/roy-moore-banned-mall-harassing-teen-girls/
"If you can't talk to the silicon, you can just go ahead and pound some!"
Replace all the poors with people willing to live 10 to an apartment.
A strong mayor, city council, and agencies. Not strong in the sense of posturing at press conferences and with a loudspeaker, but quiet and determined to do right for their long-term residents when developers and tech firms try to move in or upgrade to fancier digs within city limits. And they need staff who knows what they're doing.
If you want to do A for your employees, then you need also to do B for our residents.
Calm down. And stop being so fucking weak. You are embarrassing. Be a man ffs.
I am a man, which is more than I can say for the 48 % of Alabama (all Republicans of course) who voted for a known child molester tonight.
Where I come from, men don't let people just get away with child molestation, or enable the molestation by spinning obvious lies to deny it.
Republicans are proud and eager to vote for pedophiles who share their values, but even prison inmates know that child molesters are scum and deal with them accordingly.
You are fake news.
Great job repeating Trump's idiotic catch phrase to further honor the sexual assault enthusiast who spied on underage girls at the Miss Teen USA pageant.
Silicon Valley is the center of the technocratic arm of the plutocracy. Rule by wealth means poverty is its main weapon. Society is being programmed into a sorting algorithm to serve its current owners.
We need to bust them up or we are going to be sorted below AI/machines.
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It is also that all the housing put in back in the 50s-70s was low to medium density (ie 2 story apartment buildings or houses on modest sized lots.)
They went and turned an agricultural region into a blob of suburban dystopia, which eventually became so large that it had urban traffic patterns without the benefits of actual urban buildup.
The result was an area with dense commercial/industry, without suitably dense housing to support the population without excessive sprawl and the expenses it entails.
The concept of food insecure in the US is garbage. You can get huge amounts of nutrition for pennies a day.
Housing insecure? Transportation insecure? Certainly, those are things, but if you're food insecure, you're an idiot. th
On the other hand, I guess people might want to secure housing before food, so maybe I was too judgemental.
"One" is singular. Please.
Only food hailing appy apps on cell phones can solve all paradoxes and hunger, not poor starving Luddites.
Apps!
As engineers, many of us are trained to look at big problems and reduce them to finite, tractable components that can be solved by applying data and logic.
All well and good. This alone works for a lot of problems.
A lot of "people problems," however, don't reduce easily. Insufficient data, poor algorithms, and a failure to account for humanity conspire against reductionism.
This is a case in point.
Spend some time at Second Harvest, Hope's Corner, or, for example, a Mountain View public school (some of which have upwards of 40% of students eligible for reduced price lunches).
A closer look - through participation in the "broken" system - at the problems doesn't make the answers any clearer. However, it might make some of the folks on this thread a little less confident (glib?) that these problems are solely the result of "dumb government," lazy people, or ignorant policies - and move discussion away from "obvious" fixes that really won't work.
> ... The rich liberals want to protect their property values with artificial scarcity by electing city governments and zoning boards that issue nearly zero permits for housing construction
That does not sound like liberals to me
Liberals supposed to be Good people
Liberals supposed to be Kind hearted
Liberals supposed to be Generous
Liberals supposed to Love the poor
Liberals supposed to believe in Equality for All
What you have described, Sir, does not sound like 'liberals', not even with a tiny 'l'
The phrase "one in four" is plural. It refers to many people.
And make place for people who are qualified to live there
"At risk of hunger" would suggest only that these people are living in poverty... that while not necessarily severely undernourished, they do not make enough each month to make ends meet, and that means they are not eating well.
Living in a cheaper neighborhood could save them a lot of money each month, but then they could easily end up paying more than whatever they save on the increased commute requirements that they create for themselves by doing so.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
The vast majority of this is the fault of shit hole city planning and false liberals. Everything within a half hour drive of google or apple headquarters should be 20+ story buildings and largly would be if zoned appropriately. It's the "perserving" of the old communities that has created a completely unsustainable environment for working class people. Far to many "liberals" are happy to maintain backwards city planning that leaves the working class impoverished so they maintain their own property values and quaint downtowns at the expense of any type of livable environment for those who sell them their food.
I live in the Northbay of California (an hourish drive from SF) and we're experiencing the same thing up here (to a lesser degree of course). Tons of "liberals" who demonstratably don't give a rats ass about anyone earning less than 50k.
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That the Moore signing in the yearbook was forged was fake news that Fox put out and they retracted the story after they had spread it around. Breitbart and other news kept their copies of the stories even after Fox retracted the source story.
http://thehill.com/homenews/me...
http://www.politifact.com/trut...
I find it twisted that Republicans are the ones who complain about fake news the most, except the news they watch and read puts out much more fake news than most mainstream media. I guess it's the same as Trump having called Clinton a liar, when he's Mr. 5 public lies a day.
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What do you expect when the richest 1% in USA owns more than bottom 90%? At this point, I think it's time to define US corporatism as "communism" for the 1%er.
Perhaps you should move to Carmel and commute to Sacramento?
As a matter of fact, i know people who do work well paid job in San Jose, but commute from Sacramento....by motorcycle....and has 1-2 accidents per year.
And when he finally comes in the office, starts drinking energy drinks and coffee.
Dear editors, that suffix does not mean what you think it means, unless you think it means they only served 1.06 oz of food last year.
"I know it may come as a shock to you but a lot of people are skeptical when you come out of the woodwork on the eve of an election and make claims with forged or no proof of some illicit activity decades ago. Some people might not believe you. Imagine that."
Honestly the real problem now is that, after the world record tantrum that we have seen since the election of Chump, that I can't believe a word that a democrat speaks. One year of the "resistance" where it would seem that there is no depth of depravity that they will not sink into to somehow damage this asshat. How do we respect or believe what they have to say at this point?
Rationalism is fucking GONE. These people are going to attack this president no matter what. They will say anything. Do anything and run fast and loose with the facts until the day he leaves office. While I deeply loathe Chump I really hope he gets a full eight year term just so that these crazy left wing nutters suffer for eight years.
Hopefully the damage will be worth their tears.
I was born there, left as a child and have a technical staff position with a company founded in the valley the year I was born and still cannot afford to go back without accepting a 4 hour a day commute as the cost of doing business. I'll stick with my 2 hour a day commute in another tech hub, thank you very much.
There was a time where we actually waited for a court to determine the innocence or guilt of an accused person.
But hey, this is 2017, and to your average idiot liberal the three branches of government are the legislature, the executive and CNN.
Imagine my contempt for them.
so, fix the world's problems by killing people? let's see how that works. you go first.
You Americans believe that poor people should move out of Silicon Valley and it is their fault that they can't live there, right? At least, that's the vibe I get from most of the comments.
When the time comes and a new poor class will be created by Artificial Intelligence, who are you going to side with?
It's clear that this problem is yet another problem of Capitalism, but so few of you see it...the rest pretend it is either not a problem or that people deserve what they get...
You really expect us all to close our eyes to obvious child molestation just because you support the child molester?
I have eyes, ears, and a brain. I can plainly see that this man molested multiple underage girls, as can you.
The only difference between me and you is that you support the child molester, and I don't.
We will all enjoy the tears of Steve Bannon when he realizes that his president is hurtling toward indictment for treason with Russia and that his Senate candidate elected a democratic senator in Alabama.
Tu be fair he is a shitty individual in many other ways too, that more than justify not voting for him.
Anyway, it's done now. Let's see how long it takes Trump to turn on him. I haven't checked but there's probably already a tweet.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
A few centuries ago, Marx explained exploitation of the workers by the owners of the means of production, but you Americans go "la la la I can't hear you" every time Marx is mentioned.
It means your income to mandatory expenditure ratio is so bad that a single event can leave you unable to afford food. Car breaks down, you get ill etc.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You help build a city and then you are forced to leave? It doesnâ(TM)t seem right a society that does or allows that. We should be finding ways to help our neighbors not ways to get rid of them.
living in poverty
If you go by the technical definition, I live in poverty yet eat steaks, and really almost anything else I want, at least once a week. I can't remember the last time I was hungry.
Those of us who have read his comments over the years know that ShanghaiBill is pretty much on the left side of the aisle
All true democracies limit majority rule to protect the rights of minorities. For example, it is not possible to enact regulations so people of a given race are not allowed to live in a given area. Likewise, it should not be possible to vote a law imposing an artificial income barrier that is well above to whatever the forces of the market dictate in order to prevent "undesirables" from moving to the neighborhood. And yet that is what most zoning regulations are for. https://www.washingtonpost.com...
I don't necessarily believe that, but I think that if we had a UBI they could just move to wherever housing was cheaper. But even if that were the case, that creates another problem. With security guards, teachers, retail workers, etc. leaving, what will happen to everything that depends on them?
Also, The US as a whole tends to look down on the poor and the unemployed. See comment. I think we as a whole will require a change in mindset in order to fix many of our problems.
A nation divided against itself can not stand. A nation divided by wealth disparity can not stand. People will not usually slink off like a dying cat into a dark corner and pass. People tend to reach out and hurt the heck out of others when their poverty becomes too oppressive.
Feed the hungry and they will get busy with the next thing on the pyramid.
Trump on the subject of lying is like the "how can she slap" guy + Heisenberg from Breaking Bad.
Trump: "How can she lie? *I* am the one who lies."
Any of course your situation applies universally to everyone. This is all a big scam by Democrats to raise your taxes.
"Poor people stay poor because the government is hampering us rich people", Atlas said, as he shrugged.
That's really credible, oh, yeah.
Disgusting.
Fuck ... just reading the title of this article I got the muchies. Damn it, now I need to go downstairs and figure out which fridge I hid that cheesecake in the back of and if I've left it in there so long that it's gone bad...
Liberal and Conservative are just bullshit labels that the 1% uses to divide us. It's no accident either, this has been going on for a century with right wing radicals such as William Randolph Hearst controlling the media, rabid anti-socialist Fred C. Koch with his hand on industry, Thomas Mellon and sons running much of the banking in the new industries and many more.
in a country where eating is a sport, and where people are continously getting fatter and fatter, the number of people who claim to be "in risk of hunger" is only to rise. These people probably already eat more than people in f.ex. Europe who are by all means well-fed.
Any of course your situation applies universally to everyone. This is all a big scam by Democrats to raise your taxes.
They cold buy a crockpot and make beans, rice, lintels, or splitpeas. a 20 pound bag of dry pinto beans costs about 15 dollars and will feed adult for quiet a while.
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Why is it always ONE race whose areas other races are trying to move into? Isn't that strange... and all the other races FORCE themselves into the living space of that one race... can you guess which race it is?
Perhaps the people that can't afford food should move to Gilroy and save $1000 per month in rent (per bedroom).
And because their diet would be nothing but garlic, you wouldn't have a big concentration of homeless in one place.
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that all of the companies there that cause inequality there, ie. successful ones attracting highly paid employees are internet based businesses. The internet is a thing that allows remote collaboration and global reach to whatever, be it markets or talent.
It's shocking that as the internet grows, it's being eclipsed by the growth of Silicon Valley as its driver, a single-node dependency.
Corps that happen to have significant production offices elsewhere also seem to drink the "work in person" cool-aid.
So in effect, a global network enabling remote collaboration spawned companies whose job posts are all "ah you must come to the office, share bathrooms, smell others' food, showcase piercings and tattoos, do a useless standup ritual every morning though we get work done on git repos, slack etc. because we're building out this global collaborative network!"
Google, Facebook, ... why aren't you dogfooding?
"The economy is getting better".
But that doesn't mean it's getting better for everyone. And the wealthiest don't notice, because no one's really poor any more, are they? Well, no one important, anyway.
It's not exactly rocket science it?
It's not you: I'm just this horrifically socially awkward with everybody.
What percentage of them are running around with a smart phone? The cheapest data plan per month will buy a sack of flour, a bag of sugar, and some beans. You can live on that. I have to believe some of this is a matter of priorities
It means they do not have enough money to pay for the basics in life, which are usually considered shelter, food, and health.
Of course they may prioritise other "modern conveniences", such as mobile phone, laptop, internet etc. But it is difficult to imagine how you could lead a life and job without those "conveniences".
Some may just be bad a spending money, or at cooking, or lazy. It is hard to know the full story, and it is hard to generalize.
Much to the dismay of Democrat's California is not their sanctuary that they hoped it would be. California has the highest group of welfare recipients of any state in the nation. No matter what you think of illegals, global warming, Donald Trump or the Republican's. People of California in general are not living in a Utopia other then those who claim the fame and fortune in Cali. If I were Jerry Brown I would be ashamed of all the people of welfare in his state.
Few have become incredibly wealthy in the global Ponzi scheme known as real estate. Those that need help are probably in rental or mortgage limbo....need work, canâ(TM)t move further away to cheaper places due to excessive travel time...with so few becoming rich by buying houses cheap, selling high, the 85% on more normal incomes suffer! If 60% of your wages go on servicing rent then somethingâ(TM)s wrong
What does it even mean to be "at risk" of hunger?
TFA defines it thus:
26.8% of the population – almost 720,000 people – qualify as “food insecure” based on risk factors such as missing meals, relying on food banks or food stamps, borrowing money for food, or neglecting bills and rent in order to buy groceries.
"They cold buy a crockpot and make beans, rice, lintels,"
If it's cold or not, that's quite a large crockpot if you're going to eat a lintel. But if your house has a lintel, surely you can afford to eat food?
"a 20 pound bag of dry pinto beans costs about 15 dollars and will feed adult for quiet a while."
Eating that many beans is likely not to be very quiet at all.
It doesn't even suggest that.
You can be "at risk of hunger" if you missed a meal last month. Which puts me "at risk of hunger". Mind you, having no pancreas makes missing a meal slightly more serious than for the population at large, but it's still not worth worrying about unless I make a habit of it....
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
1. Elect a new gov.
2. Build big buildings. Demand 30% of the building is reserved for poor people. No permission to build unless poor people are given 30% for free.
3. Fill the vertical slums with poor people.
4.
5. Reflect back to when regulations kept the area nice.
6. Smart new money quickly moves to a gated community.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Don't blame it on my neighbors
They are paying around $36,000 in property taxes a year in Silicon Valley.
According to www.tax-rates.org/california/property-tax the 2017
median property tax amounts and rates for Silicon Valley to San Francisco are:
$4,694 0.67% Santa Clara County
$4,424 0.56% San Mateo County
$4,311 0.55% San Francisco County
That's about 1/8 of your $36,000. How much did the houses in your neighborhood cost?
I've seen, but cannot find now, that the US Department of Agriculture defined being "at risk of hunger" when the particular food you wanted was not immediately on hand. Best I could find was ranges of "food insecurity"
Specifically:
Food Security
High food security (old label=Food security): no reported indications of food-access problems or limitations.
Marginal food security (old label=Food security): one or two reported indications—typically of anxiety over food sufficiency or shortage of food in the house. Little or no indication of changes in diets or food intake.
Food Insecurity
Low food security (old label=Food insecurity without hunger): reports of reduced quality, variety, or desirability of diet. Little or no indication of reduced food intake.
Very low food security (old label=Food insecurity with hunger): Reports of multiple indications of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake.
Honestly the real problem now is that, after the world record tantrum that we have seen since the election of Chump, that I can't believe a word that a democrat speaks.
That sure sounds like a personal problem.
One year of the "resistance" where it would seem that there is no depth of depravity that they will not sink into to somehow damage this asshat. How do we respect or believe what they have to say at this point?
How are we to respect or believe what you have to say? There is no extent of depravity that you will not defend in order to protect the assorted asshats who bear your preferred branding.
Rationalism is fucking GONE. These people are going to attack this president no matter what. They will say anything. Do anything and run fast and loose with the facts until the day he leaves office.
Ah, so you are familiar with how the birther-in-chief behaved during the Obama presidency, not to mention the rest of the GOP's brigade of liars and frauds? No? Then I'm afraid you're getting less believable. You know, you're the one whose partisan bias has led to the crazy right-wing nutjobs afflicting this country all because you can't hold yourself accountable. That would seem to be irrational.
While I deeply loathe Chump I really hope he gets a full eight year term just so that these crazy left wing nutters suffer for eight years.
Hopefully the damage will be worth their tears.
Oh wait, you're going even further, with a bitter declaration of spite and rancor. No surprise, you truly do hate this country. You are trying to facilitate further failure, increase the country's debt, by fomenting an irresponsible radical conservative view that holds people down, by persisting with your discouraging lies, you are a truly contemptible human being who wishes to be a detriment to the country.
It's ok though, your despondency will be treatable and thanks to the complete lack of competence on Trump's part, you can keep your health insurance to pay for it.
> "As the economy gets better we seem to be serving more people."
By "better" he probably means a rising GDP or Dow Jones Industrial Average, but the average isn't the only measure. The distribution matters too, and it's hard to argue that a growing gap between the rich and poor is an improvement.
Owning regulations serve many purposes-- managing the character of a place, managing traffic, ensuring public open space and access to it, etc.
Where I live, multi-unit buildings are being demolished to make way for mansions that are occupied a few weeks per year; the only artificial zoning requirement is maximum building height, which is done for collective benefit (views). When the land is worth over $2,250 per square foot you just aren't going to be able to create middle-income homes.
The issue though is the failure to limit sprawl. Sprawl creates traffic problems and does force unnatural barriers on medium and high density development. When these things are done right, they make a positive impact on a community.
Donâ(TM)t live in an expensive area.
A pure liberal market solution (and I'm using "liberal" here in its correct sense, not in the sense that far too many American think) would fix this.
OK, so janitors, restaurant workers, nurses, generally what you might term service sector workers, can't afford the rents in a certain area because their wages are too low.
Those people remove themselves from the labour market: they move away.
Businesses that provide services find themselves without staff.
What to do? Go out of business? Or offer higher wages, and pass on the charge to the customers, i.e. the highly paid employees of the Silicon Valley tech industries.
The problem is partly in the "stickiness" of people. They are reluctant to move away. Maybe they have family, or a spouse in a job whose income they can't afford to lose. It's one thing to be single and have no family, and be able to move a thousand miles away to another town where housing is affordable and jobs are plentiful (please inform me, if you know of such a place). It's quite another to forgo a spouse's salary and to forgo the help of your retired parents as short-notice (and free) child-care providers.
And with all these people 'at risk' of hunger, very few actually are going hungry. Of course, that depends on how you define hungry. Very few in the US are malnourished due to lack of accessibility to food. Most homeless eat well enough, I see homeless people every day and many are overweight. Of the many homeless I've seen in cities across the US, its been quite rare I've seen a starving body, or one that looks like it might be.
Countering "fake news" with sites like Politifact is highly amusing.
Really, so the yearbook has been analyzed by independent experts already? Interesting. Oh wait, no it hasn't. Moreover, now that the election's over it never will be and Nelson will quickly fade back into obscurity. It was quite a masterful snow job
It wasn't confirmed to be forged, this is true. That's because the bint outright refuses to let independent experts analyze the handwriting. It takes maybe a week at most to analyze something like that from past samples. The claims that it was fake/doctored came out a month ago. She ran out the clock till the last fucking minute to admit that she futzed with the document. If it was actually written by Moore she could have made giant fucking production out of it when Moore claimed it was fake and nailed his ass. She didn't because it's not real.
While I expect you are Fox News level trolling.
However if you are living in poverty people may choose different actions to do with their their food stamps and welfare money... Also they may have different levels of support from family and their community.
You can buy yourself a $10 steak once a week, however you may choose to not get yourself something else or buy some cheaper versions of products to make up the difference.
People in poverty should still be allowed a degree of freedom and dignity, to make choices on what they can do with their life, even with our hard earned money that we pay in taxes. We should make sure people in poverty have decent quality of life enough so they can get past normal survival and enough to thrive and have a path to get out of poverty.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Give Lister some slack, he posted it early in the morning. Probably with his phone, half asleep. So grogginess+auto correct = odd words.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I think it means a missed meal because they couldn't afford such a meal. Vs. skipping a meal because you are trying to diet, or was just really busy and you forgot to eat. Normally these categories are used to help classify a group, vs an actual health definition of hunger.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Yeah, because people living in their cars have refrigerators and access to a wall socket at all times.. I can see it now, a bunch of semi-homeless hipsters each with a laptop and a crockpot taking up a table at the local Starbucks.
Ah yes, the USA, the richest country in the world. That Janitor should just live 40 miles from his job, bike to work, and live off lentils and splitpeas.
I'm not saying we should give everything to everyone for nothing, but when you have 0.01% of the population with as much wealth as the bottom 90%, placing the problem at the feet of our poorest citizens seems to be missing the mark.
Maybe, just maybe, there is a runaway problem with the way our system is currently setup that is allowing the richest of the rich to consolidate large amounts of wealth, damaging an otherwise healthy market economy. I'm sure that top weighted market is infinitely sustainable, we certainly don't need a strong middle class to drive our economy. And obviously those poor people are lazy and entitled. They have plenty of beans to eat. Ungrateful beggars.
Having took training classes to be foster parents. They covered that food security is a big issues. Foster Kids may horde food, even at a risk of it spoiling and being unhealthy to eat, because their living conditions caused them to have food security issues. The main suggestion is to have an open fridge polity where kids can get food whenever they want, even if it seems a bit odd. Where most families tend to have some sort of scheduled eating times and portion management, but for these kids their idea of normal is so out of wack, that normal family social graces will need to be set aside just for basic trust that their survival needs are in place.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
What percentage of them are running around with a smart phone? The cheapest data plan per month will buy a sack of flour, a bag of sugar, and some beans. You can live on that. I have to believe some of this is a matter of priorities
This is 2017, you need a phone to work. Especially in a techie wonderland like San Francisco. So no, the phone isn't optional. Also, we're talking about people living in cars and garages without stoves/refrigerators, wtf good is a sack of flour and some beans going to do them?
The sugar will attract ants for protein. The beans will result in methane emissions for heating the car via the greenhouse effect.
But seriously, if creamy dumpty reamer would hang himself wed have a good day.
In order to manage in today's society, a smart phone is a good investment, IT can replace a TV, Computer, and a LAN-Line in one square glass box. Communication is an important aspect for survival. Especially when in poverty conditions keeping contacts with your friends and relatives is very important, as they will be able to help you out. Also you can use this device for job hunting, and communication between potential employers.
If the point of welfare is just raw survival then it will be nearly impossible for anyone to get out of it, because they will never save enough or be strong enough to get out.
Do they need the iPhone X or a Google Pixel 2? No, but they can get a used iPhone or a used Galaxy that is still fairly recent for a lot less. Or they could get one of the cheaper Android phones new. So they may still look like the normal one of us with a fancy phone, but they are suffering, however without it, they may be near dead.
As most people now have a phone, the culture and the infrastructure of the area is now built around people having wireless access, so payphones, and other support services may not be available anymore.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I think that if we had a UBI they could just move to wherever housing was cheaper.
UBI wouldn't make a significant difference in this situation, the issue is a lack of housing, not a lack of affordable housing. The basis of the paradox is that the vast majority of the people discussed in this piece are gainfully employed, making decent or better incomes, but there is a lack of housing. Handing these workers a bit more money ($12-18K/yr in UBI) won't suddenly cause apartment buildings to spring up in Atherton.
Ken
No it isn't. It is greedy, as much as it gets. Period.
You don't need a fridge for bean storage, and some how people found ways to eat before the discovery of electricity.
Cooking simple food at home can save money over eating out (obviously), and TFA does not say that 1:4 valley residents is homeless, AKA living in a van down by the river, just that they struggle to afford food.
Ken
You posted early in the morning. Probably with your phone, half asleep. So grogginess+auto correct = odd words.
The paradox in this story isn't that people earning minimum wage are unable to survive in Silicon Valley, it's that engineers/professionals earning $50K+ are unable to survive in Silicon Valley. The vast majority of the "food insecure" residents are gainfully employed at wages that would secure a comfortable lifestyle almost anywhere else in America, but in Silicon Valley it comes up short.
Ken
Your statement, apart from being incredibly racist (you regurgitate the Nazi concept of Lebensraum), is not even true. Affluent people frequently move to lower income neighborhoods displacing poorer families (usually minorities) that used to live there for generations. It's called "gentrification". There are also anti-gentrification regulations which are essentially the same thing as exclusionary zoning, but working on the opposite direction: artificial barriers preventing people with high income from living in a given area.
What does it even mean to be "at risk" of hunger?
The same way having less than some contrived amount of income in the bank means one is "at risk of being homeless" despite having a stable job, paying all your bills, and renting/paying mortgage payment on-time for years. The argument goes "if they lost their job, they don't have sufficient funds in the bank to cover 2,4, 6 whatever arbitrary number of weeks of living expenses". Of course, with the vast majority of Americans having effectively no savings and negative net worth, that isn't so surprising.
Ken
There are other food banks in Silicon Valley. I know because I'm a regular supporter of Sunnyvale Community Services.
http://svcommunityservices.org/about-us/
I have nothing against Second Harvest, but I'd like to know why they lie about being "the only food bank in Silicon Valley"
Where I live, a large farm is being developed into a housing division for 400 homes.
The homes will be served by a two lane highway and will be on the other side of the
highway.
The poor, poor minority (i.e. the development company) will be forced to widen the
road (i.e. help pay for the extra lanes). Perhaps this is what you were talking about?
I hope not.
The two lane highway is noted already for the accidents that continuously occur on it.
It should have been widened earlier, just the stretch of the same road on the other side
of town. I didn't consider moving to the original subdivision because I viewed the highway as
the limited road access that it was.
You can be "at risk of hunger" if you missed a meal last month. Which puts me "at risk of hunger". Mind you, having no pancreas makes missing a meal slightly more serious than for the population at large, but it's still not worth worrying about unless I make a habit of it....
Yeah, I'm sure that's what is meant by "at risk of hunger". You nailed it. Nothing to see here.
Move.
Don't tell me you can't afford to move either, that's bullshit.
You're suggesting that 25% of SV residents live in their cars... You are also a fucking moron.
People aren't beholden to a court ruling in order to form their opinions or cast their votes. Is anyone going to jail without a trial to determine innocence or guilt? No? Then stfu and quit whining about your imaginary persecution.
They had to admit part of the Yearbook script was forged because it was so damn obvious. But the other part was real, trust us we only lied on part of it! LOL!
I hope someday someone makes such an accusation against you and you end up having your life destroyed. Karma is a great and wonderful thing.
While what you say might be true for your area, it doesn't apply to Silicon Valley. For example, many cities in the San Francisco Peninsula have zoning regulations which greatly restrict density within blocks of transit infrastructure, like Caltrain, receiving millions from state and federal programs. It is very hard to justify those zoning regulations as being enacted for the collective benefit.
What percentage of them are running around with a smart phone? The cheapest data plan per month will buy a sack of flour, a bag of sugar, and some beans. You can live on that. I have to believe some of this is a matter of priorities
I love how some people think that if the lower class isn't living in the 1800's they aren't trying hard enough. Sure they live in a country with marvelous, empowering technology, but they should be satisfied with eating beans and rice instead. They probably even have electricity! What a luxury! People survived for hundreds of thousands of years without electricity, so they could do it too. But no, they waste their money on frivolous luxuries so they deserve what they get.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Living near NYC means I certainly shouldn't throw stones about expensive housing. But California real estate is completely out to lunch. If you don't already own a house, you're either paying over a million for the cheapest places that aren't a 2-hour commute to work, or thousands and thousands a month in rent. Outside of Manhattan and gentrified parts of Queens and Brooklyn, I haven't seen anywhere else in the country where everyone wants to live in the exact same location so badly and are willing to saddle themselves with huge mortgages or rents to do it.
I've often wondered how people with ordinary jobs and incomes live in bubble areas like this. Metro NYC is a good example, and there's a lot of stratification in the suburban towns because of it....some places are just "working class towns" while the next town over is a wealthy enclave. But what do you do when real estate is expensive everywhere you turn? How can a Starbucks barista making $12-15 an hour survive in an area where rents start in the thousands per month? No one is going to drive an hour to serve coffee. Same goes for other bubble areas...the rich parts of LA like Beverly Hills and Santa Monica, Miami Beach, etc. Anywhere you see people driving Lambos to the supermarket is probably not offering affordable rents.
I've been to SV/SF on business, and the weather is nice. It would also be nice to be able to just give the boss the middle finger if I got upset and walk across the street for a 20% raise while the bubble lasts. But, I don't understand the draw beyond that...it's a huge crowded sprawling suburb with obnoxious rich tech bros. There are so many more affordable places to start up a business!
Have you ever tried eating a Lintel ? Guarnteed tooth damage. Thos mothers are heavy !!! Not to mention the fact that you'll run the risk of your roof falling in.
Any society is only three meals away from revolution.
No it is my general diagnosed dyslexia, that I need to struggle with on a daily basis.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
There was a time where we actually waited for a court to determine the innocence or guilt of an accused person.
I agree. What happened to Al Franken was disgraceful.
But hey, this is 2017, and to your average idiot liberal the three branches of government are the legislature, the executive and CNN.
Imagine my contempt for them.
We don't have to imagine it. It comes through quite clearly in your posts.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Rationalism is fucking GONE. These people are going to attack this president no matter what. They will say anything. Do anything and run fast and loose with the facts until the day he leaves office. While I deeply loathe Chump I really hope he gets a full eight year term just so that these crazy left wing nutters suffer for eight years.
Hey, Rip Van Winkle, were you around for the Obama administration? Do you remember the bullshit being slung at him for those 8 years? Or do you think Obama was really a secret-Muslim Kenyan Socialist who gave free phones to black people? Seems to me attacking the other side is what politicians do, regardless of party.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Tu be fair he is a shitty individual in many other ways too, that more than justify not voting for him.
Anyway, it's done now. Let's see how long it takes Trump to turn on him. I haven't checked but there's probably already a tweet.
Oh, there's a tweet, and it didn't take long.
The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election. I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him!
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Even if you build up, you'll still end up with the same problem. Look at New York. There's tons of skyscrapers there, but the price is just as high.
The Bay Area has become much less affordable than New York City:
.......... $99,151 .... $171,331 ......... $216,181
Salary needed to buy median priced home - 3Q2017
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New York
San Francisco
San Jose
www.hsh.com/finance/mortgage/salary-home-buying-25-cities.html
When I was unemployed for two years, underemployed for six months and filed for bankruptcy in 2011, I ate plenty of rice, beans and tortillas during that time. I was still eating rice, beans and tortillas for the two years afterward when I worked multiple jobs seven days a week.
First question on USDA questionaire:
Which of these statements best describes the food eaten in your household in the last 12
months: —enough of the kinds of food (I/we) want to eat; —enough, but not always the
kinds of food (I/we) want; —sometimes not enough to eat; or, —often not enough to eat?
[1] Enough of the kinds of food we want to eat
[2] Enough but not always the kinds of food we want
[3] Sometimes not enough to eat
[4] Often not enough to eat
[ ] DK or Refused
Most of the questions that follow include some sort of "because there wasn't enough money for food?" or " but you just couldn't afford more food?"
Of course, the questionnaire never questions WHY there wasn't enough money for food, so it is impossible to distinguish the "deserving poor" from the meth addicts who blew all their money on meth. Or for that matter, from people who simply spend some portion of their income on cigarettes, beer, tattoos, TVs, lottery tickets...people who could afford food for their families if they made food a priority over minor vices and entertainment.
I don't know why I got modded down to oblivion.
Programs like this are doing nothing to solve the problem, and nothing can solve the problem, that the city of San Francisco is TOO EXPENSIVE for poor people to live in. Why pretend? That is not going to change. They create a foodbank because IT IS EASY. HARD would be to help people move to a cheaper place. Create jobs in those cheaper places. That is, PROVIDE A REAL ANSWER.
Everyone else can see how Progressive policies fuck up everything for people with lower income.
Is it really that bad in the US? My phone cost £100 in 2013 and I spend about £1/month on average on a pre-pay SIM-only deal. Amortised, that works out at about £3/month for the phone plus connection (dropping for each year that I keep it). It's not an amazing phone, but it does everything I need it to and with LineageOS is still getting regular security updates. If you can live for £3/month (about $4/month) in the valley, I'd be very surprised.
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Current examples of salaries needed to buy median priced homes in the NYC and Silicon Valley metro areas.
The latter are already around twice as high.
It's almost as if your caricature of them isn't accurate.
I know it may come as a shock to you, but these accusations did not begin yesterday. The fact that you think they have really betrays which echo chambers you listen to.
Even more amazing is their constant desire to call something a blatant conspiracy. "I don't know what risk of hunger means in the context of this article, so it can't be a problem".
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
If you trust your legal system, then there are no down sides to voting for him. If you don't, you'll almost certainly get a Senator from the other party. If you do, and he's guilty, then you'll get a Senator from your party, but not the one who ran.
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It's kinda like how the Clintons did get investigated for everything accused, never were found guilty, but are still "republican guilty".
Somehow I doubt letting "independent experts analyze the handwriting" is going to change anything for the republicans. The goalposts will just shift again.
I don't think this food bank looked far enough into this term. Early Native Americans used this method to get the most out of their own droppings...
Yeah, what kind of a man is outraged at child molestation?
Well, myself, I'm mostly saddened. These cases are often incredibly tragic once you know all the details. There's usually a long chain of physical and sexual abuse - where the victims become abusers. I don't know what happened to Roy Moore that resulted in his attraction to teenage girls. Most of the allegations are from after he returned from the Vietnam War - which messed up a lot of people pretty bad.
And I believe in atonement and redemption. If Roy Moore had admitted that what he was doing was wrong and had taken concrete steps to understand and deal with his issues, then I could forgive quite a bit. But he hasn't even admitted to his mistakes, let alone embarking a serious path of atonement and redemption.
Not a Republican, that's for sure.
Maybe I should be a Republican because, for me, the mistakes of his past wouldn't be disqualifying, per se. If he had, by whatever path, managed to developed the qualities I value in a leader (integrity, humility, tolerance, kindness, compassion, generosity, understanding, wisdom, insight, etc.), then I could overlook the mistakes of his past. But, instead, he seems to have doubled-down and embraced exactly those traits of his character that caused him to make the mistakes of his past.
Maybe he went through puberty? Just a guess.
Perhaps the people that can't afford food should move to Gilroy and save $1000 per month in rent (per bedroom).
Perhaps you should look at housing prices in Gilroy again. Nowadays you need to look at Hollister, Salinas or even Los Banos to find anything remotely affordable for the non-tech employed. A security guard that I talked to at my current job told me he leaves his home at 2:45AM to be at work at 6AM.
Can you imagine crossing that stinking 152 every day to get to your shitty job making slightly above minimum wage?
At my daughter's school in Morgan Hill, in a neighborhood where most single family homes go upward of a million dollars, there are a lot of kids from households that are less fortunate. In fact, the entire school is a 'Title 1" school, meaning that it gets extra federal funds to support the underserved children.
In Silicon Valley. Seriously?
I'm not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing.
I presume you'd rather see him use Breitbart or Infowars?
Thru history all empires fall, it was well noted by Gore Vidal in his book
"The decline and fall of the American Empire"
https://books.google.com/books...
The book isn't perfect, but it makes some key points that are absolute gold.
I am not on blue team or red team as believe both are political theater.
google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
And why should other people pay for their lifestyle choices? If someone wants to be a bum, why should others have to support them? In fact, a tad of starvation is good... it gets people to stop drinking and hitting the bong, and start working.
you are a damn idiot
God I hate slashdot sometimes
Indeed, that's the way I learned it. If it's not equal to 1.0f then you use the plural form.
That would have left a Senate ethics investigation as the only way to remove Roy Moore. The ethics committee could recommend expulsion after which you would need a 2./3 majority to proceed with the explusion. The GOP would have had to think long and hard about removing a Senator that was elected with his constituents being fully aware of his alleged behavior thou, as that would have more then likely caused a backlash from Alabama GOP voters and cost them dearly in subsequent elections. Despite loosing a seat in a already tiny majority (with the vice-president as the tie breaker it is now effectively 52-49), it is likely the GOP leadership is breathing a sigh of relief having dodged a political hand grande
All true democracies limit majority rule to protect the rights of minorities. For example, it is not possible to enact regulations so people of a given race are not allowed to live in a given area.
Technically, limits that prevent such racist laws are what make modern developed countries not "true" (i.e. pure) democracies. In a pure democracy, everything is simple majority rule, no matter how oppressive to the minority the rule would be. That's why we have constitutional democracies instead of pure democracies.
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Fortunately the people of Alabama agreed that our public officials should be held to a higher moral standard than the Criminal Justice system which sets a very high bar for proving criminal culpability. Not even the trifecta of Trump, FOX news and Breitbart were enough to convince them otherwise
Yes, I know they're employed. Yes, I know there's a lack of housing. What I meant is moving costs money, and there's no guarantee they're going to find a job by moving to somewhere else. That's what UBI takes care of. Basic needs. It's better for them to stay where they are without UBI because they at least have a job.
When it's just normal capitalism
This is not an issue of the working poor being unable to afford food. This is an issue of stupid people living in the most expensive place on earth and then bitching about how they can't afford to eat (and I have no problem with those who have genuine mental health issues begging for food, soup kitchens, etc). I was born in and living in such an expensive area just two years ago and moved to a place where the cost of living matched my salary. I'm doing VERY well, but my employees are doing MUCH MUCH better who have moved from these high ticket areas (ie most of those I have hired in the past two years have migrated here as well, and the salaries I paid before I moved my business was the same or less actually).
A $50k salary in silicon valley may translate into $12/hr and $23k elsewhere, but $23k elsewhere buys you a nice house 3-bedroom house, covers the costs insurance, kids, a wife, and two cars. I know because I have had many employees living comfortably on such a salary. And these are people working good jobs with 100% consistent hours (ie hours don't get cut because the business is doing well) at just shy of 40 hours a week (38-39.5 hours).
And this doesn't just apply to low wage workers. I myself moved and make the same six figure salary as I did in the NY/NJ region- but it goes a LOT farther. I downgraded a little because I had too much house where I was living, but could afford twice the house here in New Hampshire. And I know lots of other people who have moved here as a result of the Free State Project from Silicon Valley. They too have mostly held there six figure salaries. But even those who haven't and amongst those who have taken a lower salary they STILL do better here.
Just to give people a cost of living comparison. I know people here who have nice 3-bedroom houses and mortgages/insurance/property taxes that come to just $755 / month. No sales taxes, no car insurance requirement (and yet having one of the highest rates of insured drivers in the US because car insurance rates drop when companies have to compete with $0), no income taxes, and live in town (ie no need to drive far to get to everything they need). Boston is two hours, and three other cities are within 1 hour of here.
Even though a functional adult shouldn't really be making less than $12/hr here you could get away on significantly less and I know people who do live off of savings for a lot less than this (lazy types). I know several people who work at Walmart for christ sake living well here (unsure what they make exactly, but I'm pretty sure it is less than $12/hr even if it is more than the minimum wage). I know people renting rooms for less than $500 / month everything included (heat/water/electric) and just live cheaply (ie don't eat out more than a few times a week, and never at more pricey restaurants, etc).
The only people here who are poor and homeless are really those with drug problems and/or other mental health issues.
FYI a Presidental term is 4 years. He needs to earn that second term and if Trump's disapproval ratings are any indication he has about the same chances as a snowball in Texas
That diet will certainly kill you long term, actually not even that long term.
Cheap storage VM.
Now shut up and keep building Bog Brother you starving fucks.
#freedumbs
Game theory and any real life expiraments. Will always state that resources tend to distribute unevenly within systems, its called natural distribution curves (bell curves). The fact that you expect everyone to end up with the same is stupid.
Boohoo life is hard and not fair... Its up to you to make choices that mitigate the shiitiness of life not up to others to pay for your stupid
Yes, Americans are being ripped off left and right, and nobody cares because they are used to it. I paid for my phone (~$200) upfront, and still have to pay $75/month to use it. When I lived in Finland my monthly bill was 0.69 euros.
So if one woman noted down the location and time where Moore signed her yearbook, that means all the other women are lying about everything? The mall that banned Moore because he was preying on little girls there is also a lie? Everybody in his home town knowing about his reputation is a lie? Him being married to a person who was in the same class as the yearbook girl is a lie?
So basically you're saying that if any person anywhere has ever lied then no truth can exist and pedophilia is OK by Jesus.
This is what you get when you have a near-stagnant economy for 8 years and simultaneously import ~1 million low skill/no skill workers through chain migration, immigration lotteries, and God only knows how many through illegal immigrant catch-and-release and the like. These immigrants (legal and illegal) create a glut of low skilled workers, driving down wages for everyone.
The average economy growth rate under Obama was 1.5% or thereabouts. For reference, growth under Regan and Clinton both were north of 3.5% per year (meaning the economy grew far faster than under Obama, since these numbers are compounding year over year). https://www.hudson.org/researc... The growth rate so far under Trump looks to be ~3%, or 2x that of Obama's tenure.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
Moving to cheaper location
1. Use Craigslist/census data/google to browse the employment/job market in a cheaper town/county/city/state/country.
2. Choose an ideal location based off of the information gathered in step (1) and apply online for the jobs with resume tailored to the position applied, with a nice cover letter explaining your commitment and willingness to move.
3. Sell any possession you have that is not worth humping on your back.
4. Move.
I've used this formula multiple times. While I don't have a drug addiction, or mental problems, I do have dependents, and high expectations.
I have zero sympathy for people who make the very personal choice to live in extremely high cost of living areas without the requisite employment. If your willing to put up with the hardship in return for whatever it is that's keeping you there, then society is not obligated to float you.
These problems would mostly solve themselves if people had a little damn common sense.
Drug addiction and mental issues are a different matter.
This is not some secret formula, and if it was, it's out now.
Your welcome.
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
In their survey data, did they also note how many of the âfood sensitiveâ(TM) people had a smart phone on them with cell service and a data plan?
You also have to have enough time to cook- something that folks working several jobs often lack
or that people travel from all over the world to "be poor" here. No intention or interest in anything Santa Clara County offers in jobs or technology, just to get a piece of "Santa Claus County's generous "benefits". Employ everyone and you'll get more people moving in for the freebies. Its got nothing to do with paradoxes or some sorta "rich vs poor" thing.
I might vote for a child molester over a republican, but maybe not one whose abusing children still, as I draw the line at voting for violent thugs, but not those whom are human beings. I don't believe people should utilize violence. Child molesters are human beings too whether you want to admit it or not too. I also work with a murderer whose got a family. Just cause someone commits a violent act doesn't make them inhuman. People fuck up. They lose control. It happens. I'm NOT a republican nor a socialist liberal nut job like you.
Government needs to get the fuck out and the republicans need to stop demanding we invade other countries and putting up boarder walls everywhere. We, the peoples of the world should be free to travel as we see fit and nobody should be obliged to cover the worlds poor. However only ass holes refuse to cough up something to contribute to the welfare of the least fortunate. Charity is a good thing, but not "charity" that is forced via violence or the threat of violence. The ends don't justify the means.
In my area the public schools provide free breakfast and lunch for all children and there are assistance programs like SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and WIC (women with infants and children). There is also a Summer Meals program that provides free lunch to all people up to the age of 18.
With all of these public programs, how is food insecurity an issue?
These people are social liberals but economic conservatives in other words - Libertarians. The Bay Area is the most Libertarian area. Out here the myth of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps actually works because of the network effects . People are willing to work in IT for megacorps and live in almost poverty in the hopes that they run into a VC at a coffee shop who funds their startup. Its the same model that New York has for starving artists and LA has for starving actors. Its a winner take all scheme and most people get burnt but the hope of being the next Zuckerberg sustains the folks with PhDs leading lifestyles worse than what Janitors lead in Texas.
**Life is too short to be serious**
You should get an "I Beat Anorexia!" shirt.
exactly, life's not fair, so don't come crying like the crying crybaby you are once the majority decides to tax the living fucking hell out of you. because life's not fair.
He's not fat all. Think "football player". The fact that football players his weight are 6 inches taller and look like comic books is lost on Chris. In his mind, doing some cable rows is powerlifting, and taking a leisurely stroll on a treadmill is a marathon.
The fact that football players his weight are 6 inches taller and look like comic books is lost on Chris.
Not really. Only a few football players ever have been his weight, and they still look really fucking fat...Refrigerator Perry. A more typical "fat" lineman will be 6'5" and 300 pounds.
A shrinking paradise, if it ever was one...
What about the time he wanted us to believe his flat ass and spindly legs with a watermelon on top is the physique of a cyclist?
Somewhat moot now that Moore lost. Although still relevant that the RNC funded a credibly accused child molester.
It was analyzed by "Arthur T. Anthony, a court-certified document examiner in Georgia." They just ignore that because they claim the expert was hired by her attorney.
"Nelson is willing to submit the yearbook for independent examination, but only in the context of a formal proceeding, such as a Senate investigation, in which both Nelson and Moore can be called to testify under oath." No, she wasn't willing to hand the yearbook over to Moore, but do you blame her? "Oops", I lost it.
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What percentage of tax would you like to see in your ideal scenario? What amount of the approx. 40% - 50% of our income (federal, state, sales, etc) currently being taken do you think actually goes to feeding people, etc?
Why not 85%? Somehow, only politicians ("Left" and "Right"), their lobbyists, etc, will benefit while you still say that the rest of us should pay more.
That's no excuse for atrocious spelling. Please don't post anywhere if you cannot re-read before hitting 'submit'.
The top bracket was paying 94% tax in 1944 and 70% in the good old days when we went to the moon.
And the result of that is that the gov't got used to spending as much as they could take.