Slashdot Mirror


Robots Are Being Used To Shoo Away Homeless People In San Francisco (qz.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Quartz: San Francisco's Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) has been ordered by the city to stop using a robot to patrol the sidewalks outside its office, the San Francisco Business Times reported Dec. 8. The robot, produced by Silicon Valley startup Knightscope, was used to ensure that homeless people didn't set up camps outside of the nonprofit's office. It autonomously patrols a set area using a combination of Lidar and other sensors, and can alert security services of potentially criminal activity.

In a particularly dystopian move, it seems that the San Francisco SPCA adorned the robot it was renting with stickers of cute kittens and puppies, according to Business Insider, as it was used to shoo away the homeless from near its office. San Francisco recently voted to cut down on the number of robots that roam the streets of the city, which has seen an influx of small delivery robots in recent years. The city said it would issue the SPCA a fine of $1,000 per day for illegally operating on a public right-of-way if it continued to use the security robot outside its premises, the San Francisco Business Times said.

14 of 422 comments (clear)

  1. Humans! by Zorro · · Score: 5, Funny

    EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

    1. Re:Humans! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have been doing something like this with kids for years in the UK. Instead of robots they have speakers outside the building that play classical music all day. The cool kids don't want to hang around asking people to buy them booze any more.

      Of course, all it does is displace the problem.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Humans! by Quarters · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no equivalency between displacing kids looking for alcohol and a supposedly compassionate organization buying a robot to (quite literally) inhumanely drive off people whom society has failed.

    3. Re:Humans! by Cederic · · Score: 4, Informative

      they choose

      Really?

      high prevalence of mental illnesses and other psychiatric disorders

      -- https://jamanetwork.com/journa...

      80% of respondents reported some form of mental health issue, 45% had been diagnosed with a mental health issue.

      -- http://www.homeless.org.uk/fac...

      Around 70 per cent of people accessing homelessness services have a mental health problem.

      -- http://www.nhsconfed.org/resou...

      Society has failed them, seriously?

      Civilised society, yes.

  2. Re:Humans aren't animals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, if spayed and neutered people this would be less of a problem.

  3. Re:Humans aren't animals? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh for fucks sake.

    (The below are generalizations, they tend to be true. I don't want to hear about an anecdote regarding noble Prince Hobo who'd never stoop to this kind of behavior.)

    They leave their trash everywhere
    They pester people going in and out for change (sometimes pretty fucking aggressively)
    They absolutely deter people from going into a business

    Even a non-profit like the SPCA should have the right to keep their entrance as inviting and usable as possible. Stow the virtue signaling outrage. If it was *your* office building, you'd more than likely sing a different tune.

    Besides, a stray dog or cat did NOT CHOOSE that lifestyle.

  4. Shoo, Robots by mentil · · Score: 4, Funny

    San Francisco recently voted to cut down on the number of robots that roam the streets of the city, which has seen an influx of small delivery robots in recent years. The city said it would issue the SPCA a fine of $1,000 per day for illegally operating on a public right-of-way if it continued to use the security robot outside its premises

    Maybe the city should hire the homeless people to shoo away the robots, and issue tickets.

    --
    Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
  5. Re:Humans aren't animals? by avandesande · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apparently they crap in the street and spread disease too- but this seems like more of a societal problem than the SPCA's

    --
    love is just extroverted narcissism
  6. Re:Humans aren't animals? by sysrammer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find it bizarre that SPCA has funds for homeless-shooing robots.

    TFA sez the robot costs $6/hr to rent. Min wage is $14/hr.

    --
    His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  7. Re: Many veterans end up homeless by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're thinking of WWI. When we entered WWII nearly all of Europe was still in Nazi hands, as was North Africa. And we had been supplying the allies with weapons and machinery before that. The Japanese controlled nearly all of the Pacific west of Hawaii. The U.S was in the war for part of 1941, all of 1942, 1943, 1944, and part of 1945. At the end of the war we had 16 million men in uniform. So, no, it wasn't "basically" over when we got in.

  8. Re:Sadly, by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's try to cut through the hyperventilating and click-bait headlines a bit, shall we?

    First, keep in mind that the SPCA complex takes up an entire city block, and that they were having a real issue with safety and crime on their property. Prior to this, SPCA employees were literally not able to safely use some of the sidewalks due to discarded needles, obstructions, and so on.

    Second, the robots are set to detect any illegal trespassing or activity, and simply report it to human security personnel. It's not like the robots have mounted tazers that drive the homeless out, running for their lives. In fact, people have vandalized the robots by tipping it over, covering its sensors with BBQ sauce or feces, etc. These robots are completely harmless, and in fact, are downright defenseless.

    City Hall is great at lecturing others to be tolerant and risk their own safety while they can just nudge the police commissioner to quietly push homeless toward someplace where they don't have to look at them. I mean, we can't have homeless tents blocking off City Hall, right?

    --
    Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
  9. Suggestion: Reopen Mental Hospitals by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's very strange that the SPCA of all organizations is acting like that rich tech bro a few years back who published a diatribe about how the homeless people on his building's street weren't being sufficiently controlled by the city.

    My idea for fixing the problem is to re-open state mental hospitals. Almost all of the homeless problem is due to mental illness and drug addiction. Where I live, there are 5 massive, closed mental hospital complexes within 50 miles that housed thousands of patients each before the deinstitutionalization wave of the 70s and 80s. Why not reopen them as voluntary treatment centers again? Instead of beating and lobotomizing patients, give them the help they need to fix whatever problem is interfering with them having a normal existence.

  10. Re:Good and Stop Reviving Them When They OD by fafalone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So your response to Petty crimes is a death sentence? Has it occurred to you that maybe you're part of why society is so fucked up in the first place?

  11. Another suggestion: move past the drug myth by Uberbah · · Score: 4, Informative

    Almost all of the homeless problem is due to mental illness and drug addiction.

    Nah, it's about poverty. If drug addiction lead to homelessness, Robert Downy Jr. and Lindsey Lohan would have moved into cardboard boxes decades ago.