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Twitter Rolls Out Stricter Rules On Abusive Content (apnews.com)
Twitter has begun enforcing stricter policies on violent and abusive content like hateful images or symbols, including those attached to user profiles. From a report: The new guidelines, which were first announced one month ago, were put into place Monday. Monitors at the company will weigh hateful imagery in the same way they do graphic violence and adult content. If a user wants to post symbols or images that might be considered hateful, the post must be marked "sensitive media." Other users would then see a warning that would allow them to decide whether to view the post. Twitter is also prohibiting users from abusing or threatening others through their profiles or usernames. While the new guidelines became official on Monday, the social media company continues to work out internal monitoring tools and it is revamping the appeals process for banned or suspended accounts. But the company will also begin accepting reports from users.
This is how societies die.
Yeah, let the alt-right snowflakes baaaah about their butthurt on Gab. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
They're never gonna ban the president though. It's a conundrum.
It's hilarious to see how many of the major discussion or social media platforms raised a huge ruckus about the very recent "net neutrality" policy change in the US.
Yet despite these platforms demanding that "net neutrality" be applied to telecom infrastructure providers, we've seen them act the exact opposite when it comes to the data they control. They're very in favor of showing partiality toward certain political beliefs, for example. They have ever-expanding definitions of "abusive" content that often go far beyond any censorship they're forced to perform by governments or by law. We repeatedly see comments and submissions and users deleted/banned merely for expressing views that aren't far enough to the left.
True net neutrality isn't just at the packet level. True net neutrality applies at all layers, including the highest levels where content and user comments, rather than packets, are the main focus. It means not deleting/hiding comments or submissions, and not banning users, just because they express perfectly legal ideas that hurt somebody's feelings.
Anyone who limits net neutrality to telecom providers alone isn't supporting real net neutrality. They're supporting net partiality, and that's the furthest thing from real net neutrality.
Real net neutrality means that packets aren't judged by their content or source/destination, but net neutrality also means that comments don't get deleted/hidden/censored and users don't get banned just for engaging in perfectly reasonable and legal discussion that some thin-skinned mental weaklings on the political left dislike.
Nope. A bunch of conservative accounts have already been banned including American Renaissance which has not posted anything violating Twitter's terms of service.
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Twitter should just prevent users from writing their own comments, and instead let users pick from a predefined list of comments that have been deemed acceptable. Based on what I've seen of Twitter comments lately, they could have approved comments like 'Fuck Drmupf!!;!!#!', and 'Women can have penises, too!' and 'That is racist!'. Those alone would cover about 95% of typical Twitter comments these days. They could even take it a step beyond that, and instead of having a user pick a pre-approved comment, Twitter could just choose one automatically on behalf of the user each day.
Now it's Twitter's job to be a nanny to the snow flakes to keep them from melting?
The only problem is that they have history of enforcing rules against racists, crazies and trolls rather halfheartedly and the few times they've at least tried to enforce those rules properly those normally excluded racists, crazies and trolls have cried fowl.
In all seriousness twitter has never really been a place where any even slightly valuable dialogue takes place. 140 characters and a massive potential audience is great for chanting slogans, both political and advertisement ones, mindless drivel and abuse (there's dozens of people who have regularly do what Milo Yiannopolis got banned for), but not much else. I don't think anything has caused as massive of a regression in public discourse as twitter has so the sooner they finally destroy their platform and run themselves into bankruptcy, which should have long since happened seeing how they've never come close to turning a profit, the better.
"Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
Just like any other corporate held website.
It's up to 280 characters now, but otherwise, yes.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
business-wise
Twitter still has no viable business model. Turning into an echo chamber won't end well for them.
The simple fact is butthurt SJW types are a tiny, whiny minority. Our last election has showed a quarter of the country absolutely despises them, and another half of the country doesn't give a fuck. Throw in probably another 20% on top of that, because the majority of Clinton voters voted not because MUH GENDERS, but because - well, let's face it: Bush-style Republicanism has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
They've already exempted him as 'newsworthy'. Which of course really means, 'we are willing to profit at the expense of society'.
Covfefe?
A lot of people voted for Trump BECAUSE of the loud posturing of the authoritarian feminazi shitcunts. Most people are not upper class and the middle class is slowly but consistently lowering towards the lower class. People who are 1-2 months of unemployment away from foreclosure proceedings tend to resent being preached to by privileged snots that have plenty of time to write articles telling other people how to live their lives because they're living off of Daddy's money in one way or another. I mean, have you seen Suey Park's upper middle class kitchen? You know, the one she, the East Asian college-aged female, preaches from about how racism is keeping non-white non-male people down. "Racism hurts people like me! Oh, hang on, my $2,000 microwave I didn't get at Rent-A-Center because Daddy is rich as fuck is beeping."
It's adorable watching the Trump minions with mod points trying desperately to mod down any posts that point out the screamingly obvious fact that the guy is a bully, a liar, and a jerk even towards his ersatz supporters. Heaven forbid anyone criticize Saint Trump or his disciples.
If Trump were you or me there is a non-trivial chance our accounts would get suspended. He's rich and famous so the rules of common decency do not appear to apply to him.
Maybe mark the comment as 'in-sensitive media"?
People who are 1-2 months of unemployment away from foreclosure proceedings...
...should have enough sense not to vote for people who'll push them into being 0.5-1 month of unemployment away from foreclosure proceedings?
Ezekiel 23:20
If Twitter were serious they would hit Donald Trump with a lifetime ban because he's not just an impulsive liar, his tweets are dangerous and hurtful. And allowing Fox News to amplify their disinformation campaign is a rotten way to do business.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
It'd be nice if people had recognized Twitter for what it was from the start, but... human nature.
Twitter also seemed to get a lot of notice in the news long before it was ubiquitous. Killing it will take more than a handful of people with a conscience bailing on it - it needs to become irrelevant.
The same forces that keep Trump on Twitter keep Twitter in the news, and that's not going to stop any time soon.
In all seriousness twitter has never really been a place where any even slightly valuable dialogue takes place.
Tell that to HuffPo. All they ever put out is long lists of random tweets attached to a clickbait headline. Unfortunately twitter probably won't go away until rags like HuffPo stop turning tweets from random people into "news."
If every time Twitter bans some accounts that overlap with the Alt Right, but the worst end of the Alt Right (seriously? Britain First? The group linked to the murder of a British MP? You want to justify having them on Twitter?), regardless of whether it's because they're alt-right or simply because of ToS violations, you pretend it's a "purge of conservatives", what are you going to do if it actually happens?
Nobody will believe you.
Twitter is clamping down on extremism. But it's safe to say that even Donald Trump will continue to be a Twitter user for the foreseeable future.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Hmm.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...
You are welcome on my lawn.
racists, crazies and trolls
You are probably not qualified to call anyone names, much less support the curtailment of their freedoms based on these judgements. You wave your hand and try to dehumanize others. You are missing the most important aspect of life: competition. You are claiming to be better but you refuse to compete. You are basically claiming to be a god on earth and above competition from the "mean things".
cried fowl
AVIAN BEAST! BIRD! BIRD!
In all seriousness twitter has never really been a place where any even slightly valuable dialogue takes place
Says you. Are the thoughts and actions of the hundreds of million people who use it invalid? Do they matter to nothing? Yet they are influenced by what they read on twitter. It's an important platform and it should by right be free for all to use.
The thing about marxist enforcement outlets is that they tend to be propped up regardless of profit. The hidden value is in how they are used to condition the population. They will be propped up as long as people keep going there. They will get endless investments for their contribution to the status quo, for their effort in rendering the human capital in this society to liquid.
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It was Cheryl Crow and she was actually making a joke which a lot of idiots took seriously because they cannot comprehend that someone who cares about the environment might not be crazy.
So you are saying the definition of a "conservative" is a hatemonger? Interesting.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
You don't support net neutrality, and you shouldn't pretend that you do.
You only want neutrality for the bottom 3 of the 7 layers of the OSI model.
Incorrect, I support all 7 layers because that is about the network. Neutrality on the part of the web server is NOT part of the OSI model, it's strictly about the network.
100% net neutrality means that users on social media web sites aren't banned for expressing legal ideas.
No, Network Neutrality has nothing to do with the content provider. If you become a content provider and your server (not rented) is removed as a destination then that would be a violation of network neutrality. Seeing as how that doesn't happen, you're being treated just like the rest of us.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
There is precedent that could be used maybe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
From the article:
The town of Chickasaw, Alabama, was a company town near Mobile, Alabama, which was owned and operated by the Gulf Shipbuilding Corporation ("Gulf"). Aside from the fact that it was owned by a private entity, the town exhibited the general characteristics of a more traditional settlement. The town's policeman was a deputy from the Mobile County Sheriff's Department who was paid by Gulf. The town was surrounded by a number of adjacent neighborhoods which were not located on Gulf property. The Court noted that the residents of these non-Gulf neighborhoods were freely allowed to use the company-owned streets and sidewalks to access the town's businesses and facilities.
The appellant, Marsh, a Jehovah's Witness, stood near the post office one day, and began distributing religious literature. Marsh was warned that she needed a permit to do so.and that none would be issued to her. When she was asked to leave, she refused on the grounds that the company rule could not be constitutionally applied to her. The deputy sheriff arrested her and she was charged with the Alabama criminal code's trespassing equivalent.
During her trial, Marsh contended that the statute could not be constitutionally applied to her, as it would necessarily violate her rights under the First and Fourteenth Amendments. This contention was rejected and Marsh was convicted. The Alabama Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction, holding that the statute as applied was constitutional because the title to the sidewalk was in the corporation's name and the public use of the sidewalk had not been such as to give rise to a presumption under Alabama law of its irrevocable dedication to the public. The Alabama Supreme Court denied certiorari, and Marsh appealed her case directly to the United States Supreme Court.
In a 5-3 decision, the court ruled in favor of Marsh. The opinion, joined by three justices, was authored by Justice Hugo Black, with Justice Felix Frankfurter authoring a concurrence, and Justice Stanley Forman Reed authoring a dissent.
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True net neutrality isn't just at the packet level. True net neutrality applies at all layers, including the highest levels where content and user comments, rather than packets, are the main focus. It means not deleting/hiding comments or submissions, and not banning users, just because they express perfectly legal ideas that hurt somebody's feelings.
That's 100% incorrect. Net neutrality DOES happen at the packet level, with every user on the Internet, whether an individual or a for-profit business, able to do what they want, without an ISP interfering or acting as gatekeeper.
I don't respond to AC's.
Conservatives can sue Twitter today. In the US, you can literally sue any person or company you want for any reason you want. All you need is money that you don't mind wasting and a willingness to be a public laughing stock if your reasons are too stupid.
Hmm
Remember that the antifa thugs attacked them first, and the police were told to stand down to "make it easier to arrest people."
You can read the entire report yourself. The report puts the entire fault of it at the feet of the: Mayor, Police Chief, Governor, and the original agitators of violence(antifa and black clad protesters). If you dig a bit further? Well, I hope you're ready for your bubble to be burst on it.
Om, nomnomnom...
That's a sidewalk. You can't just not use sidewalks. Twitter is a for-profit Internet company. You can easily not use Twitter.
I don't respond to AC's.
And they utterly fail to see the hypocrisy in their actions. Twitter has themselves become like the Nazis. Note how this rule doesn't apply to military or government.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
If if just meant Nazi, why was it applied to anyone not having a left leaning outlook? The meaning of a word is in how it's used. Alt-right was used indiscriminately as an attack weapon, not any sort of accurate political label.
Yes they are and I don't want that either. But I and anyone else am free to write about how they are hypocritical abusive assholes. What's your point?
According to the actions of many on the left, yes, that is exactly what is happening. They're saying conservatives are hate mongers despite evidence to the contrary
Conservatives are labeled as supporting white-nationals, Liberals are labeled as supporting the KKK. Neither is actually true, only a projection from the opposing side.
And yet, the murderer was one of the alt-right jackoffs.
And yet, the trial hasn't even happened. Good luck on them even proving 1st degree which is what they're going for -- that means premeditation. Plenty of video evidence showing the antifa shits coming towards the car with bats, poles and other blunt instruments too.
Om, nomnomnom...
Right, just ostracize the very people that made them popular. Already seen plenty of companies that have tried to do the same only to become relics of the past. Good bye Twitter and good luck to the new next replacement! And all the people blabbing about the "rubbish" on twitter are just going to twirl around in a dead social medium like the others before it, because, guess what? People don't want filtered content despite complaining about the trolls and trash. They want to moderate or be at least able to contain it, but censorship and filtering is not the answer.
And seeing how Youtube is reacting to all this, they're not just filtering bad content, they're just filtering everything they feel like.
No it isn't. You're embracing the "extend and destroy" tactic of meanings MS used(?) to use.
The thing about marxist enforcement outlets is that they tend to be propped up regardless of profit. The hidden value is in how they are used to condition the population. They will be propped up as long as people keep going there. They will get endless investments for their contribution to the status quo, for their effort in rendering the human capital in this society to liquid.
The discussion is about Twitter, not "Fox News". I think you're confused.
I don't respond to AC's.
...should have enough sense not to vote for people who'll push them into being 0.5-1 month of unemployment away from foreclosure proceedings?
8 years under Obama is generally what got those people there in the first place. Their options are: More of the same, or a different path. Looks like the choice of "a different path" is working out much better for most people already.
Most of what the democrats are pulling right now is "more of the same" and people are tired of it. It's the same reason that the democrats are experiencing what's called "party flight" where the core becomes more moderate and looks at 3rd party alternatives, or they simply switch because they want to see them burn. The democrats delegates just finished electing a full-on anti-white race baiter to the leadership of the party, that's not going to help them win either the rustbelt or the heartland. It's also not just happening in the US, but Canada as well. There has been a shift from Liberals to both Green and NDP effectively fracturing the "left-wing vote" into 1/3's. ~20 years ago it was the Conservatives(PC) and Reform Party(smaller government, more resource exports, etc). Canada did very well under the CPC(party that replaced both of them under unification), regardless of what your views on Harper are, Canada was the only G8 and G20 country not to enter recession during the 2008 crash. And was the only country to gain net FT jobs over PT jobs during the recovery period.
Om, nomnomnom...
You can easily not use Twitter.
Except where your government has turned around and directly uses it for public discourse, weather alerts/warnings/etc, policy announcements and so on right? Then we get into the area where twitter has moved from a private company with no protections, to a private company that has an influence on public discourse, information and so on.
Om, nomnomnom...
It seem to me that modern American conservatives are at least too comfortable with, or tolerant of, white nationalism. They voted in a president who hinted at white nationalist leanings before the election, and mostly continue to support one who has expressed those leanings more strongly. Centipedes comfortably hide under the tent of conservatism to complain about crackdowns on hate speech. Conservatives nearly voted in an ephebophilic turbo-deplorable with antebellum nostalgia in Alabama. These accusations aren't baseless.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
You must be delusional. Absence of evidence indeed
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Because someone else would have handled Bush's parting gift better?
Considering Obama was basically Bush 2.0? It looks like most of the Obama administrations actions were more of the same while not having a clue as to what was going on. It also didn't help that while republicans started driving neocons out of the party(like David Frum), those same neocons were happily welcomed with open arms by the democrats.
Om, nomnomnom...
The links you give do not support the conclusion you state.
The link states "They concluded that police were woefully unprepared, and that leadership was sluggish in its response to escalating violence, and as a result, they failed to protect public safety"-- which has nothing to do with what you stated, that "the antifa thugs attacked them first."
You then link to "the whole report" (https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/c869fb_a573de9ad4f04b0491b927ca9d48252c.pdf) -- but that doesn't support the statement you made either.
so I conclude that you gave these links to create an illusion that you have references to support your statement, on the assumption that the people reading wouldn't fact check you.
I bet they are using the user-marked media to help in training the recognizer for what users don't mark. That would reduce the cost versus only using media marked by their paid army. That makes me wonder whether the better-financed abusers will create bots to flood the system with non-sensitive media marked as sensitive to poison the AI.
Exactly, they even gave BLM an emoji. If twitter were to enforce their rules properly, they'd be deleting their platform!
I hate the Bureau of Land Management too, but I don't think that they use twitter very much
Are the thoughts and actions of the hundreds of million people who use it invalid? Do they matter to nothing?
I've never tweeted and only follow one person (2 accounts). Are there other valuable "thoughts and actions" to explore? In my limited exploration I've seen a lot of fluff. I wouldn't describe DJT's tweets as fluff. I'm just on because it's a unique look into the mind of the lunatic at our country's helm.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
I got suspended once on twitter after I got carried away in a flame war and said something I was honestly ashamed of. I took my punishment meekly because I was very much wrong. What bothers me is that since that day I've reported 15 people for crossing that same line and not one of them was ever considered a problem by twitter. I came to the conclusion that twitter judges strictly on political grounds and I'm more convinced every day.
I'd love to run into you in person. I would smash your face in for being such a pompous little prick.
I would kill your dog too.
8 years under Obama is generally what got those people there in the first place.
Nah, they put themselves there by their own poor life decisions. Same way women made life choices leading to the wage gap, or non-whites making poor life choices lead to them making up most crime statistics.
Looks like the choice of "a different path" is working out much better for most people already.
Are they really working out much better? The left is now more emboldened to punching nazis. Social media like Twitter in TFS are tightening their controls with the implicit goal of chasing conservatives off public discourse. More and more women are coming out about sexual assault from decades ago, and while it did catch quite a number of liberals (Hollywood especially) conservatives are as usual in the cross hairs as well.
Overall economic numbers look better, but
a) They've been improving since Obama's reelection
b) Overall economic numbers don't necessarily reflect the well being of individual Trump voters who may not be benefiting from it (e.g that Wall Street is hitting record highs doesn't mean much for the laid off coal miners)
Er, pretty sure that homonyms aren't well covered by phonics, what with phonics being about sounding words out, and homonyms being words that sound the same despite having different meaning.
Pay attention. 'Nazi' now also means anybody less authoritarian than Stalin.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
A good example of a racist post.
You don't have a right to arbitrary free shit.
Yes I do. I insist that I do and I will fight you or anyone else to the death who denies my right.
I have a right to be part of public discourse, I have a right to be int he same place as the majority and speak freely there. The livelihood, my future, and my freedom depend on this. So no matter what lesser or false law or rule would forbid me from doing so, I will do it anyway and if anyone tries to stop me I will fight back to the point of killing them or being killed myself if need be.
No, it's cooperation. Everything you see around you is the result of cooperation.
And how would we know what to cooperate about if an individual didn't propose a way to do things and assert it's superiority above all others?
Marxism is characterized by inventing a class of oppressors (evil nazi white supremacist hate bigots in this case) and pitting the most easily influenceable part of the population against them (poor people in almost every case).
The whole farce about capital always rotting in the hands of a few oligarchs unless the state steps in and micromanages everything is just a lie to give the controllers of the state the wealth and let it rot the same way they claim they will prevent it from rotting.
It turns out you do not even know what freedom is or what life is about and that you are the one who hates what is right.
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> You don't have a right to arbitrary free shit.
Yes I do. I insist that I do and I will fight you or anyone else to the death who denies my right.
lol OK. Go into a jewelery store and start taking arbitrary shit for free. Have fun fighting the cops to death, Mr. Internet tough Guy!
I have a right to be part of public discourse,
You have a right to be a part of public discourse free from government interference. You don't have a right to a twitter acconut.
The livelihood, my future, and my freedom depend on this.
Oh so you're a twitter personality who got b&! That explains a lot! Try gab.
So no matter what lesser or false law or rule would forbid me from doing so, I will do it anyway and if anyone tries to stop me I will fight back to the point of killing them or being killed myself if need be.
So you're going to reregister on twitter under another name and if that fails, you're going to murder twiter employees?
Have you considered, you know, not being so incredibly desperately attached to twitter? I think standing off the I25 in a sandwich board sounds much more your scene anyway.
And how would we know what to cooperate about if an individual didn't propose a way to do things and assert it's superiority above all others?
How? By not being utterly crazy-pants for a start. Then by actually using our brains rather than doing nothing except spewing talking points.
Marxism is characterized by inventing a class of oppressors
Ah, so like the "they're after our guns!!!" thing. I see!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The more freedom social media removes, the more other freedom supporting sites will grow.
Who wants to stay on a brand that has SJW reporting users, banning accounts?
Where all movie reviews have to be positive..
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
You are severely, severely mentally ill.
Well I guess you've reached the limit of ability to rationally rebut my points then!
Everything you stand for is losing
But not this argument! Zing!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
You have no points. You are just seeking status in a place where it's impossible to get. You do not care about knowledge, you care about image.
Your mental illness is leading you to savagery. Turn back.
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Oh the wit and insight!
You have no points. You are just seeking status in a place where it's impossible to get. You do not care about knowledge, you care about image.
You appear to have your threads crossed, my good fellow, because this has nothing at all to do with the original discussion.
Also, you should dial back the paranoia in your sig. You probably kept getting downmods after you hit -1, so you have no idea how many you got. Same thing happened to me when I suggested Mr. Damore was not correct in many of his points. I'd like to see you blame that on the mythical SJWs! :)
SJW n. One who posts facts.
thats why i left the link
i have no -1 rated posts at all
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I'll remember to mention your kind thoughts about power to the white homeless guys I see every day.
Granted that it's their playground, but who defines what "hate speech" is? Is it defined at all? It's not unknown for groups to use the phrase "hate speech" to shout down anything they don't agree with.