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Tech Bros Bought Sex Trafficking Victims Using Amazon and Microsoft Work Emails (newsweek.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Newsweek's National Politics Correspondent reports on "a horny nest of prostitution 'hobbyists' at tech giants Microsoft, Amazon and other firms in Seattle," citing "hundreds" of emails "fired off by employees at major tech companies hoping to hook up with trafficked Asian women" between 2014 and 2016, "67 sent from Microsoft, 63 sent from Amazon email accounts and dozens more sent from some of Seattle's premier tech companies and others based elsewhere but with offices in Seattle, including T-Mobile and Oracle, as well as many local, smaller tech firms." Many of the emails came from a sting operation against online prostitution review boards, and were obtained through a public records request to the King County Prosecutor's Office.

"They were on their work accounts because Seattle pimps routinely asked first-time sex-buyers to prove they were not cops by sending an employee email or badge," reports Newsweek, criticizing "the widespread and often nonchalant attitude toward buying sex from trafficked women, a process made shockingly more efficient by internet technology... A study commissioned by the Department of Justice found that Seattle has the fastest-growing sex industry in the United States, more than doubling in size between 2005 and 2012. That boom correlates neatly with the boom of the tech sector there... Some of these men spent $30,000 to $50,000 a year, according to authorities." A lawyer for some of the men argues that Seattle's tech giants aren't conducting any training to increase employees' compassion for trafficked women in brothels. The director of research for a national anti-trafficking group cites the time Uber analyzed ride-sharing data and reported a correlation between high-crime neighborhoods and frequent Uber trips -- including people paying for prostitutes. "They made a map using their ride-share data, like it was a funny thing they could do with their data. It was done so flippantly."

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  1. Legalize prostitution by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Informative
    Legalize prostitution: If you prohibit something that has demand, illegal/black markets *will* be created. It would also be easier to help the women who want to quit and don’t manage on their own. Health controls could be done, which benefits both clients and sellers.

    Not to mention, you could tax it. Just make it a job like an artist or a performer.

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    1. Re:Legalize prostitution by jawtheshark · · Score: 4, Informative
      Children conscent to child pornography? The victim of the murder did conscent?

      Prostitution can be done between two conscenting individuals/adults. Selling sex between two conscenting individuals hurts nobody. Contrary to your two “counterexamples”.

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    2. Re: Legalize prostitution by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I do not think legalizing prostitution will stop sex trafficking. Even in Amsterdam, which has legal prostitution, still has sex trafficking problems (one example https://nltimes.nl/2017/05/18/...).

    3. Re:Legalize prostitution by paiute · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's a fine line between consent and coercion. You have no idea what is pressing against the other person's head who is willing to "consent" to sex with you.

      You just summed up decades if not centuries of family pressure on daughters to 'make a good match'.

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    4. Re: Legalize prostitution by Kohath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What if it only stops half of it?

    5. Re: Legalize prostitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're lying to yourself if you think all trafficked sex workers are sex workers voluntarily.

    6. Re: Legalize prostitution by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Big problem with "stopping sex trafficking" is that you'd have to have reliable numbers before and after the attempt to stop it. Unfortunately, there's a whole industry (both inside and outside of police) who earn their money dealing with sex trafficking. On top of that, it's hard to challenge those numbers, because you don't want to be that person.

      So any and all news coming from police about sex trafficking numbers is suspect to me.

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    7. Re:Legalize prostitution by jawtheshark · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to the law, there is no fine line. The person got threatened? Not consensual. The point is: if you have a legal market for a certain service, the illegal markets become less profitable.

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    8. Re: Legalize prostitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's almost like you're both idiots who think in black and white!

    9. Re: Legalize prostitution by misexistentialist · · Score: 2

      Article is hypothetical if not fantastical since it is claiming women are victims of trafficking without knowing it. If the "problem" is really underage prostitution, then rounding up the delinquents is more what needs to be done than heroically fighting sex slavery.

    10. Re:Legalize prostitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You have no idea what is pressing against the other person's head who is willing to "consent" to sex with you.

      You also have no idea what is pressing against the other person's head who is willing to "consent" to a soul-destroying office job, yet no one seems to bat an eye there. Perhaps instead of trying to second-guess everyone's reasons for doing what they do, we could go after the people who are threatening harm if they don't do the thing?

    11. Re:Legalize prostitution by DaMattster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Legalize prostitution: If you prohibit something that has demand, illegal/black markets *will* be created. It would also be easier to help the women who want to quit and don’t manage on their own. Health controls could be done, which benefits both clients and sellers.

      Not to mention, you could tax it. Just make it a job like an artist or a performer.

      Criminalizing certain vices; the prohibition of gambling, prostitution, and even drugs has fueled the rise in violent, organized crime. Where there is a demand for a product or a service, a market will exist. The mafia made fortunes on bootlegging and other vice crimes throughout the 20th century. When you criminalize a service or product, it becomes unregulated and MUCH more dangerous. It's time to admit that these vice crimes just need to go away. If we legalized and regulated drugs, then the domino effect of violence that results from drugs starts to go away.

    12. Re:Legalize prostitution by gweihir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And in any sane country, that has happened a long time ago. It is also patently false to think that most women in prostitution are forced into it. Or at least not more forced than anybody that has to work for a living. They just look at their options and decide that it is this one they like best. In countries were prostitution is legal or decriminalized, it is extremely rare to find anybody forced into prostitution, and it is usually one of the first few customers (often the very first one) that calls the police and gets the victim freed. Of course that only works if said customer does not need to fear prosecution....

      With the thoroughly insane idea of making prostitution illegal in the US, the prohibitionists get to design the narrative, and they are shamelessly lying to promote their evil agenda. Suddenly, everybody selling sex is "trafficked", when that is very far from the truth indeed. And suddenly there are incredible masses of underage prostitutes, when in actual reality they are very rare. The "average age entering the sex trade" becomes 13, when in actual reality it is more like 22. And do not forget that prostitution being illegal correlates with significantly higher rates of rape. This evil has to stop.

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    13. Re: Legalize prostitution by Kohath · · Score: 2

      Why would more customers travel to a bad neighborhood and risk arrest and disease using illegal hookers when there's a local, convenient, certified clean alternative?

    14. Re:Legalize prostitution by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

      In countries were prostitution is legal or decriminalized, it is extremely rare to find anybody forced into prostitution

      The data doesn't seem to support that assertation.

      The studyâ(TM)s findings include:

      • Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.
      • The effect of legal prostitution on human trafficking inflows is stronger in high-income countries than middle-income countries. Because trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation requires that clients in a potential destination country have sufficient purchasing power, domestic supply acts as a constraint.
      • Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.
      • The type of legalization of prostitution does not matter â" it only matters whether prostitution is legal or not. Whether third-party involvement (persons who facilitate the prostitution businesses, i.e, âoepimpsâ) is allowed or not does not have an effect on human trafficking inflows into a country. Legalization of prostitution itself is more important in explaining human trafficking than the type of legalization.
      • Democracies have a higher probability of increased human-trafficking inflows than non-democratic countries. There is a 13.4% higher probability of receiving higher inflows in a democratic country than otherwise.
    15. Re:Legalize prostitution by sjames · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, many people advocating for the basic income do wonder just how willing people are to work at the more soul destroying office jobs. Certainly they believe that a basic income would force employers to make office jobs less soul destroying.

    16. Re:Legalize prostitution by VanGarrett · · Score: 2, Informative

      The first thing that you need to understand, is that making a thing illegal doesn't necessarily make it go away. If you want a thing to stop, then the laws you make need to address what causes whatever it is that you don't like. Sometimes, minimizing the extent of a problem starts by legalizing and regulating it. Consider drugs in Portugal, for example. While heroin isn't exactly legal there, it's been decriminalized. Portuguese do not go to prison over heroin, unless they're found with more than a ten day supply. This evidently hasn't meaningfully changed the addiction rate since the policy was introduced in 2001, but the rate of deaths and transmission of HIV among users has been dramatically reduced.

      Using prison as an arbitrary deterrent is medieval thinking. In the 21st century, wr should be thinking about how to get the results we want from the legal systems we put in place, rather than relying on the threat of prison, alone.

    17. Re:Legalize prostitution by Rande · · Score: 2

      No, legalised like tobacco - in plain packaging with logos like 'THIS DRUG WITH HARM YOUR FETUS' on the outside.
      No one is saying recreational drugs are good for you - only that prohibition is worse than legalisation.

  2. Great, I work with lowlife pervs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So it seems I work with some people involved which sucks. But can we please not have sex trafficking mandatory training from HR next year? People who aren't sick fucks don't need a training video to show them how to act like humans.

  3. Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not that there aren't people who want to work in the sex industry - there absolutely are. However, as studies repeatedly bear out, the number who want to is far below the demand; most people who work in the sex industry don't want to be there, and abusive trafficking is an inevitable consequence of this situation.

    Making prostitution symmetrically illegal doesn't solve the problem. By making it illegal and aggressively policing it, yes, you cut down on part of the demand. But you also cut down on the supply. And since the ratio of clients to sex workers is far greater than 1, it's much easier to crack down on the "supply" side of the equation, thus increasing the trafficking motive. On the other hand, making it fully legal causes a boom in demand (and especially sex tourism), which usually is associated with a trafficking boom.

    I'm personally a fan of the Nordic system: purchasing sex is illegal, as is pimping, but selling sex is perfectly illegal. After all, if your goal is to stamp out trafficking and protect abused women, why would you throw them in jail? The Nordic system cuts demand without cutting supply, thus heavily damaging the trafficking motive; it's been very successful. There are some things you have to be careful about, of course - for example, in the first version of the Swedish laws they had problems with landlords kicking prostitutes out, out of fear that they'd get caught up in anti-pimping / anti-brothel laws (the laws were later amended to address this). But in general it's been shown to work well. It also makes it so that prostitutes are unafraid of having to deal with the police, which means better crime reporting and an all-around better environment for them.

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    1. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Funny

      I find the same thing where I work. Ask around, and everyone would rather be at home than at work.

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    2. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Sweden, rape capital of Europe, is "shown to work well" when it comes to supply and demand for sex?

      Ah yes, that old saw-horse, which has been shown to be false for a number of reasons. But you missed the opportunity to tie it in with immigration and you know .. "those people".

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    3. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We need to start an open source sexbot movement. They will fulfill an important need, but can't be under the sole control of corporations who have already shown themselves to be untrustworthy by spying on customers and using DRM.

      Start with GNU vibrators that support remote control over secure net connections. Sarah Jamie Lewis has already made a great start on this. In time we need to make sure that Free high quality blowjobs are available for anyone to download. VR should be a target too.

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    4. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't know every country which has it, but I can tell you that it's that way here in Iceland, too. And Finland. Denmark is the only Nordic which doesn't use it.

      After Sweden introduced their ban on purchasing sex, violence against sex workers reportedly went up

      This is a lie based around this report. The short of it: Since the law passed, the following reports of changes have occurred:

      Verbal abuse: +17%
      Hair pulling: +167% (but still only a third of those surveyed reported any hair pulling)
      Being struck with a fist: -38%
      Rape: -48%.

      Because when you consider them all together and equal, it's a net increase of 7% (52% to 59%), that's "violence is up". But most of those cases are verbal abuse. The most extreme examples, such as rape, went down by half.

      Street prostitution decreased by 50% and indoor prostitution by 16% since the law was passed. The rate of prostitutes seeking help from the police decreased by 41%, but rather than this being some sort of "afraid of the police" situation (they're not legally liable for anything), rates of seeking help from ProSentret decreased by 54% - an even greater amount. The simple fact is, severe violence dramatically decreased since the Nordic Model was adopted.

      The estimates on the number of prostitutes operating in Sweden dropped significantly after the law was passed, and are 1/10th the number as in (lower population) Denmark. A study by Durex found that Sweden had the lowest percentage of the population (among 34 countries surveyed) of men paying for sex, at 3%. But as for:

      as did the number of "johns" going to Denmark for sex.

      Obviously, just on the face of this, this is stupid. The concept that you'll get the same rate of people visiting prostitutes when they can get it where they live vs. where they have to drive for hours (Stockholm to Copenhagen = 10 hours round trip) and pay ~$50 each way to cross the bridge (let alone the super-expensive Nordic gas prices) is nonsense. Furthermore, the rate of people going to Denmark to buy prostitutes has not increased. A large majority of the population in countries with the Nordic model strongly support it, not just "politicians". Only 25% of Swedish men and 7% of Swedish women support repealing it.

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    5. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by ffkom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not that there aren't people who want to work in the sex industry - there absolutely are. However, as studies repeatedly bear out, the number who want to is far below the demand

      If there is more demand than is on offer, prices rise, and the job becomes appealing to a larger group of people. What you describe is what happenes when instead of paying adequate wages, people from poorer countries are imported to dump prices. That is not different with prostitution than with any other job.

      most people who work in the sex industry don't want to be there

      Most people who work in any industry (except for a very few glamorous professions) would rather like are less strenuous and higher payed job. Again, not in any way specific to prostitution.

      abusive trafficking is an inevitable consequence of this situation.

      No. Abusive trafficking is happening for a lot of reasons and for many kinds of work - just look into gastronomy and construction sites, where you can find the same "slave like" working conditions with workers "paying off debts" to those who trafficked them into the country.

      Abusive trafficking is the inevitable consequence of lacking prosecution of those who traffick and those who do not adhere to existing labor laws.

      Regarding the absurd "asymmetric" anti-prostitution laws in Sweden: If there was any honesty in those who want to criminalize prostitution, they would apply the same logic to many other professions: So eating in a restaurant where a trafficked worker cooked your meal would be illegal. Being helped by some trafficked nurse would be criminalized. Having your garden shack built by a company who brings trafficked workers to your site would make you a criminal.

      Once you think of this, you might realize that the Swedish law is not at all against trafficking, it is against sex services being on offer in general, for irrational reasons.

    6. Re:Sex trafficking is a supply and demand problem. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      As much as I like the idea of sexbots, I also expect that the moment they become even half-way realistic there will be a worldwide movement to ban them. It'll probably involve stories describing how perverts can modify sex-bots to look or act like children.

      Remember that even America, one of the world's more sexually open countries (if not so much as parts of Europe), it is a criminal offence to sell a dildo in Texas or Alabama.

  4. Re: I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if it was really just the Tech Bros that purchased this. It seems like Tech females would also be on the market for this. Aren't there male strippers in Seattle?

  5. All Prostitution is now 'sex trafficking' by Jarwulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems every generation society gets on this hysterical kick about something threatening their children/womenfolk. While back it was the indians, then sometimes later the yellow peril, then later blacks, and not too long ago satanists. Now I guess its obese greasy white IT nerds. Every notice how you never or rarely heard of sex trafficking before yet starting a few years ago if you believe the stories all of a sudden every town is blanketed with hidden lairs of hundreds of chained up damsels lying in darkened smoky brothels around every corner of town in america. And of course evil men are driving this. Yeah I pretty sure there's always been some hookers here or there who were forced into it, but its pretty hard not to be skeptical when almost all these stories are big on vagueness and sensationalism and small on details and the few that are followed up you often find even the hookers don't consider themselves 'slaves'

    1. Re:All Prostitution is now 'sex trafficking' by Halo1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Every notice how you never or rarely heard of sex trafficking before yet starting a few years ago

      Not really, even if you limit yourself to the US and "modern day history".

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    2. Re:All Prostitution is now 'sex trafficking' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not really generational as much as from what part of the world you came from. Middle Eastern countries as well as some Asian countries treat woman much more as second class then in places like the US and UK. Ethnic upbringing has created this continuous lack of respect for woman. Just because they move to the US and work at Microsoft. Doesn't mean they become more civilized towards woman or change that culture.

    3. Re:All Prostitution is now 'sex trafficking' by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The numbers estimated seem a bit inconsistent. Somewhere between 1000 and 100,000 cases a year? Something seems a bit dodgy when the estimates span two orders of magnitude.

    4. Re:All Prostitution is now 'sex trafficking' by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Numbers from sane countries where prostitution is not illegal indicate that people actually forced into it are extremely rare and that usually one of the first customers calls the police to get them freed. That does, of course, only work if said customer does not need to fear prosecution.

      Note that the need to work for a living and having selected this as the best option does not qualify as "having been forced into it". Also note that a driver or a bodyguard is not a "pimp", he is a helper employed by his boss, namely the small business owner working as a prostitute.

      In essence, this problem does not exist, at least in the west and large parts of the rest of the world. This panic is primarily driven by the perverted fantasies of those promoting it. It has no connection to reality.

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  6. Trafficking now interchangeable with prostitution by George_Ou · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's a story about prosecutors throwing people in jail for talking about prostitution by intimidating them with trumped up charges to get them to plea. Many got fired from their jobs. Others lost their friends and family and one man committed suicide. It's like how some cities resort to public shaming Johns which is such a horrific practice that even 18th century America stopped doing it. http://reason.com/archives/201...

    All of these anti-trafficking organizations use Superbowl TV commercials of women and/or child being sold as slaves (which is extremely rare) but if you read what their true goal is, they want to stop all prostitution. They even consider 100% voluntary prostitution as trafficking. Amnesty International has the right solution which is to legalize prostitution so that women aren't forced into the underground where they are victimized by their Pimps and by the Police.

  7. Re:SJWs eliminating the competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually it's more that they don't want a man who's a redpilled MRA, and most are also turned off by social injustice enthusiasts. There are plenty of guys out there who aren't hazmat barrels of toxic masculinity for them to choose from. But keep on calling women who don't show up to alt-right rallies "screaming misandrists," the rest of us thank you for taking yourself out of the competition!

  8. Re:Trafficking now interchangeable with prostituti by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On one those 'anti-trafficking' organisations, the National Center on Sexual Exploitation* (better know by their old name of Morality in Media, they rebranded because they were a laughing stock) features a 'dirty dozen' list every year of the twelve organisations they consider most destructive to sexual morality. Amnesty International is on the last two lists because they support decriminalisation of prostitution.

    They also list the American Library Association (for opposing government-mandated filtering), Amazon (for selling pornography), youtube, Comcast (for not blocking pornography by default) and HBO (for making Game of Thones, with "with copious amounts of gratuitous nudity, sex, and sexual violence.").

    There's a lesson to be learned here: Sometimes organisations try to veil their real goals. The National Center on Sexual Exploitation sounds like an organisation dedicated to protecting women, superficially, and their front page supports this interpretation - boldly claiming "NCOSE has a proven track record of changing corporate and government policies that previously facilitated sexual exploitation." But dig a little deeper and you find that their definition of 'exploitation' includes not only trafficking, but consentual prostitution and even the very absolute softest titillation of pornography - they have called upon Steam to ban Mass Effect: Andromeda as too racy. Dig a bit deeper still and you find they have campaigned for schools to block gay rights websites for 'promoting the homosexual lifestyle.'

    *Abbreviated NCOSE, by their own choice. Probably to avoid confusion with the NCSE, the National Center for Science Education.

  9. It's Oprah's fault by XB-70 · · Score: 2, Funny
    If Oprah had just gone on TV and said: "Ladies, if you want to make a real difference in our society, then go out and give one (1) wet sloppy one a week to a man in need."

    That would end it plain and simple.

    No more Harvey Weinsteins. No more sexual predators. No more prostitution, sex trafficking victims and abuse.

    If the above seems like too much of a chore then we GoFundMe the ultimate BJ machine and install it in every men's room in the land. It would pay for itself in days with similar outcomes.

    If we don't deal with the root cause, horniness, we'll never solve any of these problems.

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    1. Re:It's Oprah's fault by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't have stopped Weinstein. He could easily afford expensive prostitutes, but that wasn't what he wanted. It was about power, forcing young actress to do things with him.

      Same with trafficking. They want certain types of girl, otherwise why take the huge risks (sending your ID or using a work email) when for $50k a year you are not going to have difficulty getting laid?

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    2. Re:It's Oprah's fault by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about not treating women like their only purpose is to get men off?

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    3. Re:It's Oprah's fault by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Your theory is that she slept with him to further her career, but then decided to sabotage it by extracting money from him... Doesn't sound like a great plan, especially as she was just one of eight people who got hush money and her other complaint at Amazon got her project dropped.

      Considering everything that Weinstein has simply admitted to, why do you need to invent improbable theories that make him the victim?

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  10. Tech bros? by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this another "tech is a hotbed of evil women abusing misogynists" story?

  11. Re: Fucking make masturbation legal... by kenh · · Score: 2

    When did masturbation become illegal in your own home?

    Why pick on the pope for the moral aspect? There are much larger religions than Catholicism with similar positions in masturbation - what is the Muslim position on masturbation, for instance?

    You just want to blame an octogenarian in the Vatican for societies problems.

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  12. Those evil young men with money. by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2

    Prostitution is the oldest profession in civilization. It probably existed before recorded civilization.

    But yeah, lets blame young tech workers for the problem. Lets blame "insensitivity". But lets ignore the politicians and the police, who set policy and can use immigration status to go after sex workers. Lets ignore capitalism, because they're all doing this for free. Lets blame news outlets for not covering this "tragedy" and making it the #1 issue in Seattle, as opposed to housing, infrastructure, law enforcement, and the residents themselves.

    Lets blame tech workers again, for using data to create a prostitution map, because their "callousness" and "inappropriate" sense of humor is the "root" of the problem. Where's the community "outreach" to their new residents paying taxes to their community? Ah, well they're
    Asians and Jews and geeks; who wants them marrying into the family? /s But lets keep pretending illegal immigration is not a problem, because Asian sex slaves are a moral horror, but there aren't taking White American sex slaves' livelihoods, so its not a big deal or relevant to the mechanics of the local trade.

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    1. Re:Those evil young men with money. by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      then there's you implying whites are mostly to blame. There have been studies done on the ethnicity of clients in the major cities, there are two other groups leading the list before we get to whites at #3

  13. Re:I think the trouble is a lot of Christians by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a bit of political posturing in this case. The NCOSE used to be an overtly Christian, right-wing pressure group dedicated to stamping out sinful media - they were called Morality in Media, and they tended to use language associated with the right-wing faction of politics - decency, morality, family. A few years ago they noticed that their name was a joke and nothing they said was taken seriously, so they completely reinvented themselves to turn from a right-wing anti-pornography organisation into a left-wing (superficially) anti-pornography organisation. Now they talk instead about needing to protect women, and use left-wing language - talking about rights, and equality. But beneath their surface appearance their actual policy positions have not changed at all - they even retain their opposition to homosexuality.