Microsoft: We're Not Giving Up On Cortana (Even In Home Automation) (zdnet.com)
Microsoft is trying to fight back against perceptions that Cortana may be its next consumer-centric technology to face the chopping block. Yesterday, the company issued a press release touting recent wins for Cortana. Among these are the officially unveiled Johnson Controls' Cortana-powered thermostat (which goes on sale for $319 starting in March). ZDNet reports the "other recent Cortana device partners":
Allwinner: This company has the Tech R16 Quad Core IoT solution (a reference design for device partners).
Synaptics: This ODM (original design manufacturer) and far-field voice processing vendor produces reference designs for consumer IoT, smart speakers, PC, and more that integrate Cortana.
TONLY: Another reference design vendor working with Microsoft on Cortana devices that make use of Skype.
Qualcomm: In addition to partnering with Microsoft on Windows-on-ARM "Always Connected" PCs, Qualcomm is building reference designs on its Smart Audio and Mesh Networking platforms that use Cortana. "In addition to our currently supported home automation partners, we are announcing new partnerships with Ecobee, Geeni, Honeywell Lyric, IFTTT, LIFX, TP-Link Kasa, and Honeywell Total Connect Comfort. Cortana currently supports lights, outlets, switches, and thermostats across all providers," the spokesperson said.
Synaptics: This ODM (original design manufacturer) and far-field voice processing vendor produces reference designs for consumer IoT, smart speakers, PC, and more that integrate Cortana.
TONLY: Another reference design vendor working with Microsoft on Cortana devices that make use of Skype.
Qualcomm: In addition to partnering with Microsoft on Windows-on-ARM "Always Connected" PCs, Qualcomm is building reference designs on its Smart Audio and Mesh Networking platforms that use Cortana. "In addition to our currently supported home automation partners, we are announcing new partnerships with Ecobee, Geeni, Honeywell Lyric, IFTTT, LIFX, TP-Link Kasa, and Honeywell Total Connect Comfort. Cortana currently supports lights, outlets, switches, and thermostats across all providers," the spokesperson said.
FP = frist penis.
Would that be the thing that says "I'm afraid I'm not available to help in your region"?
Just include MS-Bob, and put it on a Zune running in a Pocket PC.
Table-ized A.I.
I'd like to get a home assistant from every company that offers them, put them close to each other so they can hear one another, and see if I can get them into an infinite loop of talking to each other.
The users are trying to fight back against perceptions that Cortana may be Microsoft's next consumer-centric technology they are forced to use. Yesterday, the users issued a statement touting recent advances in preventing Cortana from functioning. Among these are the officially unveiled "Cortana-b-gon registry hack" (which prevents Cortana from running after significant Windows updates).
Will Cortana work on my Zune?
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Is it because it's so entrenched in Windows 10? It wouldn't surprise me.
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Oh, wait, I meant Cortana.
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I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'm not able to mod parent up in your region.
Is it because outside of Windows and Office, MS is having trouble finding success, either dropping or renaming or relaunching the product or service in question? Maybe don't just spout PR, back it up.
I wish they would give up on it. I turn it off or dial it back as much as I can, and whenever I'm on another computer I'm always annoyed by how in my face it is.
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How much do I NOT want a $319 Cortana powered thermostat? I would tell you, but I can't even think of anything to compare it to. It might actually be the thing I want least in the world.
I just replaced my thermostat a few months ago, it cost me about $50 and allowed me to program in different temperatures at different times of day, and day of the week. It wasn't even the cheapest on available either.
I cant imagine that being able to verbally tell the thermostat to set the temperature one degree higher is going to be worth and additional $269. Especially since my thermostat is in the hall, a good distance from where I usually am.
First law of people: People are generally stupid.
I disabled it after Cortana tried searching the internet every time I wanted to run an application.
if i could delete cortana from windoze 10 i would. disabling it is not enough. i have no use for voice interaction. in fact, i have no use for the majority of the half baked baked in features of windoze 10.
maybe a better solution would be to just delete windoze 10.
when you can sell $90 worth of electronics for $300+ you don't give that up.
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It took a bit of time to figure out how to remove Cortana from the boxes infested with Windoze10:
-Turn off fastboot
-Boot with Linux distro of your choice
-Rename all of the Cortana binaries
-Enjoy not seeing useless waste of CPU by a process that Windoze lied about turning off
The Cortana component of Search can be turned off with a single regedit.
.. geesh.
Most telemetry can be stopped by turning off a single service, well maybe two (the primary one being the "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry" service, although you might want to turn off one or two more).
Most of the rest of the privacy issues can be handled via the Privacy panel in Settings.
If you want all the "apps" removed from your account, that can be done with a single PowerShell command, a second one will wipe them from the system so that any future accounts are created without them. Elsewise, most any individual "app" can be removed with a right-click
A few tweaks is pretty much all it takes
Clinging desperetley to a lead lined life preserver. Remember Clippy?
If you still need Windows for something, then it should be in a VM. It shouldn't have any direct access to any hardware, and the OS itself shouldn't be running whenever you're not running your legacy application.
Oh, my.
They have one thermostat and four reference design vendors.
When you have more distributors than customers, we call it multi-level marketing (MLM).
I wonder if we are seeing a similar business model here.
Maybe M$soft isn't finished with Cortana, but we have. We disable it via policies on all network connected devices. Pretty pointless in the office.
They simply need to make a Mobile platform that already exists ie windows phone and rename it Cortana. Then make devices around the Cortana ecosystem, ie Cortana certified Blitz up a bunch of integration commercials about cortana Offer it for a buck to android and iphone users so they feel like they bought something that was previously free. Really develop the life integration story for Cortana. Cars, homes, computers, etc. Basically, I should be able to plug my Cortana phone into every laptop and see my desktop on it. I should be able to plug my phone into a tv using a national standard and play movies to my tv. Or play video games on my 4k tv via my phone and an xbox wireless controller.
See where I'm going with this. Develop Cortana as a platform/Operating system for my life. Stop trying to make it a tool for the garage when it should be the garage.
Robot Chicken on Cortana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyL-J-piB8o
It was never going to become a mainstream technology, Microfail.
Seriously, take your goddamned IoT and cram it up your fat lazy ass, nerds.
Cortana powered thermostat - maybe not as dumb as it first sounds.
Disclaimer #1 - I do not work for MS, and I hate Cortana.
Disclaimer #2 - I do not work for Johnson Controls, and I do not own any of their thermostats (at least, I don't think so), but to be honest, I do like the way thermostats let me control the temperature at home and in the office - what a clever invention!
And did I mention . . . I hate Cortana. I have it completely suppressed on my PC's - never ever have to see it pop up, not ever. On my Windows phone, Cortana pops up, primarily just to annoy me, anytime I breath on the phone, or the TV or radio is on nearby, or my cat whines, but since I use the phone only for the most basic activities like phone calls, I can live with that annoyance.
I don't get it, why Cortana makes sense. However, I also do not use Siri, Alexa, or the others - I personally just don't find that to be my style. I like talking to people, typing and pointing on my computer. For those who enjoy using voice assistants, I would be curious to now how they rate Cortana versus the others.
I have read that Amazon Echo and Alexa devices were big winners during the holiday shopping season. So, why do people find that intriguing or compelling, but not Cortana? Partly I think because an Echo Dot sits out of your way. Speak to it when you want, but if you don’t call it, it doesn’t bother you.
Cortana on the other hand is just in your face, always an unwelcome annoyance when you are trying to do something that requires your attention.
To me, that epitomizes the Microsoft way - foisting on users what MS thinks is best for everyone, working in you face rather than by your side, working against you instead of with you. (Just my opinion, probably shared by many here.)
Seen from that point of view, MS would by playing the fool to think that selling Cortana to a thermostat maker is a great inroad into the IoT. It sounds stupid, until . . .
Look at it from the thermo-makers point of view.
Check out the Johnson Controls website, at the link referenced in the Slashdot post:
"Johnson Controls' Cortana-powered thermostat"
http://www.johnsoncontrols.com...
Those guys were apparently excited to develop this device.
It has a touchscreen panel for the usual thermostat interactions and control, but "GLAS can [also] be controlled by mobile app or by voice, thanks to Microsoft’s voice-enabled digital assistant, Cortana."
Keep in mind, this is not MS trying to push something stupid on the hamstrung user or the unwary developer.
This is not Clippy, not Vista, not UAC, not forced Win10 updates, not any of the million and one irritating things that MS is legendary for – this is not MS forcing Cortana into a device where no one wants it.
This is the company that wants to use Cortana as a tool or subsystem in its product, Johnson's choice. Whether Cortana or Hey Google or the others is the best choice, that is another discussion, but consider the potential benefit of this arrangement (and no, I am not being facetious).
Perhaps I want to keep the heating or AC off in the house during the day when I am at work, save energy and money. On my way home from work, I can call ahead by 20 minutes and get the house warmed up. Or vice versa, I ran out the door in the morning, late to work, and forgot to turn off the system, so I can call in and do so. Perhaps I have the AC on, but the weather changers, a cold front comes in and it starts raining and temperature drops, so I no longer need to have the AC on to keep the pets at home safe.
Perhaps on the way out the door, I realize I want to know the weather report, decide to take a jacket or raincoat, but I already turned off my computer. As I am walking out, I pass the thermostat, which is doubling as a weather report kiosk, and I can ask, and it tells me what I need t
... went rogue and is trying to take over the galaxy in the name of peace.
A $319 thermostat. So that I can use Cortana.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
With a statement like that, Cortana must already be dead.
Cortana -- Not dead yet.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
Is there a vision in MS ecosystem for the home entertainment??? MS had everything to rule home media! But Cortana cannot even play music from my PC - complete joke (keeps moving from Grove music, iHeart radio, spotify - more jokes).
I dealt with Johnson Controls in a former life. I do hope Microsoft does a Nokia on them. Or better: both spin into a black hole, in a deadly embrace.
wtf is Cortana?
Cortana is stuck up, useless and spies on me so I do everything possible to disable it. Tay on the other hand was a foul-mouthed belligerent racist that I'd install if I could just for the amusement value.
Slashdot 2020: "Microsoft has decided to abandon Cortana". My Microsoft Crystal Ball is amazingly accurate!
the nazi version
we will never use cortana until we get our nazi girlfriend back!!!
MS also did not want to give up on MS Bob, Clippy, Kin, Zun, Kinect, Lumia, etc.
MS grabbed control over the desktop early on, and has held onto to their near monopoly there.
Since then, MS has failed to get much control over the internet, or smart phones. MS servers have done okay, but have certainly not taken over.
Now MS seems to be failing in home automation.
Even after everyone else has, Microsoft is the last to realize its over. Perpetual optimist I guess Microsoft is. I never used Cortana and never will. Nothing against AI devices, think the Echo is somewhat useful and Siri was a interesting tool at first, but never really got much better. All these devices are more novelties for tech addicts then really useful and intelligent tools.
Oh cool, so I can continue to disable Cortana on my XBOX ONE because it's notably and despicably worse recognition and MUCH MUCH slower than classic XBOX commands AND Microsoft will even HELP me to keep it disabled by discontinuing Kinect and now the goddamn kinect ADAPTER for the XBOX ONE X despite the fact that I REALLY REALLY like voice control for my tv / media center... but no... they aren't giving up on Cortana...
OK Sure Microsoft. Go F*** yourselves. I guess I have to turn elsewhere to get even basic functionality, but YOU aren't giving up... Give me a F***ing break.
They're full of shit, because Cortana doesn't work on my Xbox One and can barely understand voice commands on it. They gave up long ago on it.
What really irks me is the Windows 10 lock screen scenery photos. Every single one I have ever been presented with, apart from ONE, is of somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere, either Europe or US/Canada.
The only southern hemisphere photo I've had presented (abouth 4 months ago) is of the Twelve Apostles in Australia. Why not more (or any!) photos from Australia, New Zealand, South America or Africa? Or even Antarctica?
Yes AC and the rest of you. I have 2 Windows phones, a Nokia 720 that ran Windows Phone 8 and a 640 XL that runs Windows Phone 10.
I was in hospital recovering from a FREE triple bypass when my W8 phone would read out my SMS and wait for me to reply and send from across the room! It could also browse my LAN and play/view AV.
Then MS decided to shoot themselves in the foot numerous times, and my hatred for Sataya Nadella is deep. Completely oblivious to the promises he made, MS ruined Nokia and destroyed the promised development of porting android apps across, the Continuum and many other features I TRUSTED MS to deliver within reasonable time. Nadella forgot about the consumers and focussed on the business/corporate world with their Surface and W10 faux linnux software.
Consumer abandonment is a tragedy and I have lost faith in MS. I can't keep my hope up that they will support the consumer. I have to buy an android phone because I have to have compatibility that my Windows phone can't give me, even though it is a brilliant OS, easy to use etc, but won't/can't do the things I need anymore.
PS I got Cortana to read my SMS out to me btw.
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!