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GM Will Make an Autonomous Car Without Steering Wheel or Pedals By 2019 (theverge.com)
General Motors plans to mass-produce self-driving cars that lack traditional controls like steering wheels and pedals by 2019, the company announced today. From a report: It's a bold declaration for the future of driving from one of the country's Big Three automakers, and one that is sure to shake things up for the industry as the annual Detroit Auto Show kicks off next week. The car will be the fourth generation of its driverless, all-electric Chevy Bolts, which are currently being tested on public roads in San Francisco and Phoenix. And when they roll off the assembly line of GM's manufacturing plant in Orion, Michigan, they'll be deployed as ride-hailing vehicles in a number of cities. "It's a pretty exciting moment in the history of the path to wide scale [autonomous vehicle] deployment and having the first production car with no driver controls," GM President Dan Ammann told The Verge. "And it's an interesting thing to share with everybody."
That's no steering wheel, it's a docking station!
Does anyone really think they will be taking a driverless taxi/uber anywhere before 2025?
Autoautomobiles will be a life changer for those with disabilities.
(including end of 2019) I think they overestimate their chances!
And if anything goes wrong with the guidance system, don't worry -- it will simply slow down, pull over, and stop.
And then...
What happens if the guidance system goes out? If the map the computer's using isn't fully up to date? If I need to move the car only a short distance, or park in a place without parking spaces? This is the same kind of thinking that removed guns from fighter aircraft because "dog fighting is obsolete." I haven't seen any self guiding car system that I would trust to act, with no ability to override. Build one that can handle New York or LA rush hour and I may change my mind.
I'm thinking of a certain era in Larry Niven's "Known Space" stories, where on Earth, disconnecting the autopilot and driving a car manually on public roads was an Organ-Bank offense.
I can't wait to ride in one, please!
Johnny Cab clip from 'Total Recall'
That's nothing, Ford made a self-exploding car that dynamically removed the steering wheel and pedals already in 1971.
Other than to *prove* it's not needed, at this juncture it seems an odd choice to remove capability.
Particularly to make such a declaration given the reality that the legal framework of operating fully autonomous cars is far from a known thing.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
The trade-off is that cars kill a lot of people every year. Riding a motorcycle around a 3rd would country indicates that you apparently have little concern about dying in a traffic accident. I, on the other hand, am afraid of my family getting killed or injured on the road every day. I'm looking forward to having to worry less about my family getting killed or injured.
I don't respond to AC's.
Or better yet, they'd evolve more humility and stop acting like they're indestructible and own the road and pay attention to cross walks, traffic and signs.. Instead of what I see now, even as a pedestrian myself, of just blazing through traffic like they own the place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
For any tow / service people that have to try and move the things when they're broken.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
You'll still need comprehensive insurance, even if you don't have any liability because deer are never insured and you'll need to keep paying GM to keep this service active.
Honestly, I don't have much concern about that -- I'm not a coward.
Tesla isn't even this aggressive in their timeline.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
It will have a port to plug in a Nintindo game controller, and all the cheat codes of GTA will be supported.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Log in or fuck off.
If you own it you're responsible, just like anything else. But ownership will quickly fade away, and it will nearly all be spot rentals. it will take a generation as the "legacy" car owners won't cotton to the idea, but their kids will.
I don't think "coward" is the right word for not wanting to ride a motorcycle in a Latin American city. I know, I did it for nearly 10 years. But you're in your early 30's. You still think "it won't happen to me!"
I couldn't even see the lines on the road myself. I really wonder how these autonomous cars are going to deal with snow storms without any way for the human to take over.
Better it happen to me on a motorbike than pissing and shitting myself in a nursing home. Famous quote from Con Air, via Steve Buscemi... "What if I told you insane was working fifty hours a week in some office for fifty years at the end of which they tell you to piss off; ending up in some retirement village hoping to die before suffering the indignity of trying to make it to the toilet on time? Wouldn't you consider that to be insane?"
Log in or fuck off.
OK.
You'll still need comprehensive insurance, even if you don't have any liability because deer are never insured
Who cares if deer are insured? They aren't driving cars to run into you with, and your AV won't hit one because it's an AV and won't have accidents. Why should you have insurance?
and you'll need to keep paying GM to keep this service active.
There's the magic. If you think automobiles have planned obsolescence now based on warrantees, imagine when your AV stops working because you didn't pay your software license fee.
So, a garbage can blows into the road and the car just stops behind it...forever?
Florida has many areas with low to medium density and large populations of elderly people.
If I lived there and could no longer drive I would get one of these in a flash.
Wow you actually bothered to create an account, just to reply.
City of Chicago ordinances:
https://www.cityofchicago.org/...
https://chicagocode.org/9-8-02...
Even Pedestrians have to obey traffic signals, which was my point. They also are not allowed to just blindly cross where it's not marked to do so.
Furthermore. When push-comes-to-shove, you can be fully in the right and still fully dead.
Arrogantly walking through a red light is still against the law for a pedestrian.
If this is all there was, I'd ride a bike, ride a motorcycle full-time again, or WALK.
Right in their bailout-holes
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Who cares if deer are insured? They aren't driving cars to run into you with, and your AV won't hit one because it's an AV and won't have accidents. Why should you have insurance?
A lot of people care, that's why comprehensive insurance is so popular, if your car is totaled because you hit a deer you're screwed unless you have it and if you aren't buying your shiny new driverless car cash the lender isn't going to consider anything short of comprehensive an option.
Still going to need a "Pull over and stop immediately" button just in case.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
You'd have to be a sociopath to think that gives you the right to vehicular homicide.
Lust for profit is ignoring you.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
...yep still won't buy anything GM makes.....ever.
So, since we're now truly passengers, GM can pay the insurance? Because I'm not paying for insurance for a self driving car
I know that self-driving cars seem like science fiction sometimes, but in what Amazing Universe are the costs not passed on to the consumer? Of course you'll be paying for the insurance. It will probably even be a line-item on your monthly bill for the lease. And if an accident happens, the actions of the humans involved WILL be a factor they consider. So you'll need two insurance policies in the future, not zero.
A lot of people care, that's why comprehensive insurance is so popular, if your car is totaled because you hit a deer
Topic: buying insurance for autonomous vehicles. Autonomous vehicles won't have accidents, thus you won't hit a deer. You don't need collision insurance. Try again.
They will still hit deer, they will still be vandalized, they will still experience hit and runs. They're autonomous, not magic. There is no force field.
$40 for the ride and $1.27
Insurance? GM trying to weasel out of liability obligations already?
Have gnu, will travel.
As a passenger in a vehicle that you're not controlling you may want to use excessive comments on the AI's actions and decisions in an attempt to control the vehicle. You may also want to tutor the AI in how to drive, for example comment on the speed of the vehicle, alternative directions, or to not let that other car get ahead of you.
If you're lucky. Death is not the only outcome of a bad accident. You're just playing rhetoric games, convincing yourself that's it's a reasonable thing to do. I know, I did it too.
Sounds like a non-lethal variant of the Saudi Arabian model.
Taxi kills a pedestrian? Passenger gets punished. Shouldn't have hailed the cab in the first place.
At least that's how it used to be.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
Computer, park next to the second gas pump for regular unleaded.
I can't do that Dave. I'm an electric car.
If it functions as well as other GMC vehicles, then it will be completely safe as it just sits there.
I completely welcome driverless cars coming. I believe they'll save lives, increase productivity, allow the elderly to drive again etc.
One lingering thought always sticks in my head. Someone wants to rob you, well they just stand in front of the car and you will stop. Every time.
Has anyone considering solutions to this?
Whoosh