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Chelsea Manning Files to Run for U.S. Senate in Maryland (washingtonpost.com)

An anonymous reader quotes the Washington Post: Chelsea E. Manning, the transgender former Army private who was convicted of passing sensitive government documents to WikiLeaks, is seeking to run for the U.S. Senate in Maryland, according to federal election filings. Manning would be challenging Democrat Benjamin L. Cardin, who is in his second term in the Senate and is up for reelection in November. Cardin is Maryland's senior senator and is considered an overwhelming favorite to win a third term... However, a candidate with national name recognition, such as Manning, who comes in from the outside could tap a network of donors interested in elevating a progressive agenda...

Evan Greer, campaign director of the nonprofit organization Fight for the Future and a close supporter of Manning's while she was imprisoned, said the news is exciting. "Chelsea Manning has fought for freedom and sacrificed for it in ways that few others have," Greer wrote in an email. "The world is a better place with her as a free woman, and this latest news makes it clear she is only beginning to make her mark on it."

315 comments

  1. What's with all the criminals running for Senate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What's with all the criminals running for Senate? The list includes Roy Moore, Joe Arpaio, and now Chelsea Manning. Why would we trust criminals to act in our best interest when we give them power as elected officials? Just say no.

  2. Mixed feelings by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm 100% certain Manning's heart is in the right place. But she's impulsive in a dangerous way, politically inexperienced, and has proven herself a bad judge of character in terms of who she allies herself with. I just don't see any good coming out of this.

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    1. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      "She" isn't a "she." This isn't just some anti-trans/anti-mental-disorder spiel, this is a legitimate issue. "She" is like a new McCain. Some guy who got MKUltra'd to the point of having no loyalties but to the deep state. We already knew "she" was willing to sell out "her" country for nothing more than some attention, but now it's even worse because "she" is in the pocket of the people who drugged, raped, and otherwise tortured "her" into submission. Expect someone who always votes to fuck the average person if "she" is elected to office, even when it goes against party lines to do so (just like McCain does every opportunity he gets.)

    2. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Is a trash compactor really such a bad place to put the dong of a traitor?

    3. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd how you feel your exceptionally limited knowledge on the subject allows you to feel your ignorance has standing.

      Bet the military must be kicking themselves because you're not helping out at Los Alamos. NASA too on space exploration. And how's Havard going to continue to attract the brightest and best without you running the show? After all you appear to be denying them the opportunity to educate them on their fields of excellence as well.

      Or is just trans issues you've fooled yourself that you actually have a clue on (because you personally don't like not understand them)?

    4. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or is just trans issues you've fooled yourself that you actually have a clue on (because you personally don't like not understand them)?

      Personal insults aside (kind of shows the lack of merits on your side of the aisle, you might want to do something about that,) the notion of electing the mentally ill to lead the nation or even represent a basic majority of people within it is absurd. Cutting your balls off is a mental issue, no matter how you want to cut it (no pun intended.) Frankly, your inability to see such a basic thing should void your right to vote, you aren't doing anything good with it.

    5. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just running.. as a democrat.. for a seat with a pretty-safe democrat incumbent is fucking stupid...

      if manning's name made it to the general election, that seat would turn so fucking red, it'll take decades to get it blue again.. wonder if some secret right-wing donor is backing this to poison the other side.

    6. Re:Mixed feelings by Baron_Yam · · Score: 0, Troll

      If this catches at all... expect to be told if you don't support Manning you're transphobic. Which, I'd bet, would actually represent a significant impediment to voter support, but would only be one of dozens of reasons to vote for someone else, and most of those other reasons would actually be politically relevant.

      Manning is a really good choice if you want more reactionary Trump-style politicians in office.

    7. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You appear to be a sexist. Please go to the back of the line.

    8. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, people think they know what a mental issue is from exactly zero training or education.

      Hint 'common sense' does not equal knowledge or wisdom.

      What's next, you going to tell nuclear physicists how to build a better bomb?

    9. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Regardless of her other qualities, she damaged the security of the US by unilaterally dumping classified materials. She did not pick and chose messages or topics in a way that can be defended in an ethical argument. All other issues do not matter to me and I lean over to the left pretty far.

    10. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      As long as the rest of the traitor is in there with it, no.

    11. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People with the appropriate knowledge were literally bullied and harassed to force them to remove certain mental illness from medical books.

    12. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm 100% certain Manning's heart is in the right place. But she's impulsive in a dangerous way, politically inexperienced, and has proven herself a bad judge of character in terms of who she allies herself with. I just don't see any good coming out of this.

      Dunno. Putting the criminal deviancy of the modern marxist-left on display with a nice controversial election that reminds everybody how fucked up the democrat thinking is and the party will support outright convicted criminals... is going to be useful.

      Just not useful for _them_ is all.

    13. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this is different from any other political representitive we can vote for how. May be she should run for president.

    14. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it genuinely hard to think that trolls like you believe even a grain of what they write themselves.You're just kidding a bit / trolling around and do not believe any of this utter nonsense, right?

    15. Re:Mixed feelings by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      if manning's name made it to the general election, that seat would turn so fucking red, it'll take decades to get it blue again

      No, Maryland is so hugely gerrymandered in favor of keeping congressional and senate seats in Democrat power that even a toxic idiot like Manning would win. The Democrats in the Maryland legislature have made sure that's always going to be the case.

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    16. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It doesn't seem to have harmed other trans candidates who managed to get elected against all odds.

      The conservative victim narrative is failing as it becomes apparent that the people who said they would save you from it are just feathering their own nests. 2018 will be the backlash.

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    17. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Senate elections are state-wide, so any gerrymandering would have been the definition of the state boundaries hundreds of years ago, which is unlikely to be very effective gerrymandering for the modern political situation.

    18. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Point of Fact: It's impossible to gerrymander a US Senate Seat since those are voted on state-wide. It's a little hard to do that unless you're kicking voters of the other party out of the state itself rather than drawing lines like the way Republicans do.

    19. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's different in Russia; they don't understand.

    20. Re:Mixed feelings by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Well, consider that some trans activists (who are not really helping actual trans people's situation at all) say that hetero males not wanting to have sex with trans women are homophobic/hateful/bad people, etc.

      It's almost as if some of these activists are intentionally acting in such a way as to damage society's view and opinions of trans people.

      It's absurd.

    21. Re:Mixed feelings by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Right, it's a congressional district only thing. Observation re: MD's legislature and how it impacts those elections stands.

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    22. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked you CANNOT change your genetics.... You are either born genetically Male or Female.... Just because someone chooses to identify as a Potato does not MAKE THEM ONE! He has DEEP mental illness! It is obvious even I can see. As for Bradley, he was given a DISHONORABLE discharge. He took an oath when HE joined and broke it. His pardon was only for his sentence, he is still guilty of HIS crimes against the United States.

    23. Re:Mixed feelings by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >It doesn't seem to have harmed other trans candidates who managed to get elected against all odds.

      Fine. Now tell me if they're doing as good a job as you would have expected from other candidates who had similar platforms. In fact, tell me if they appeared to be capable of that PRIOR to getting elected. Getting elected is one thing; getting elected because you are in an in-vogue identified victim group is another. It's a mistake no matter what the cause.

      >The conservative victim narrative is failing

      Well, I think Trump is enough of a horror show that they're becoming fringe again. I don't think that means it's time to push an unqualified single-cause-figurehead candidate just because maybe you'll get them elected. Especially one of extremely questionable qualifications.

      Find someone who appears qualified to do the job they're campaigning to get AND is electable AND supports your causes. Because as voters, we have a duty to ourselves to put our best representatives into office, not merely the ones who are big in the current news cycle.

      > the people who said they would save you from it are just feathering their own nests.

      I haven't seen a lot of that. In fact, I haven't seen any. But maybe that's because the news is full of the horror show 24/7.

    24. Re:Mixed feelings by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1, Interesting

      >Well, consider that some trans activists (who are not really helping actual trans people's situation at all) say that hetero males not wanting to have sex with trans women are homophobic/hateful/bad people, etc.

      Some? It's the only opinion I've come across so far. Guess I'm transphobic then, because I just believe they're people who shouldn't be subject to discrimination or abuse.

      I even buy (unless and until a better medical explanation is presented) that they may have brains that are cross-sex due to developmental or genetic abnormalities. I'm never going to accept that they are the same as their identified sex, though... because reality is that they aren't. I like Caucasian women. I like redheads, I like women of a similar cultural background and of a similar age to my own. All these things are OK, but if I prefer natural-born women who grew up female, suddenly I'm evil?

      I get it, it sucks to be in an extreme minority and be socially isolated. That doesn't mean you can make me desire an intimate bond with you.

    25. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been thinking the same thing lately. Some of these people on the left are just SO batshit crazy, that it's more believable that it's some right-wing PAC that's pulling false flag operations to sabotage them.

    26. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally won't vote for anyone that has even the slightest smell of "activist" on them, or is being promoted solely on some shallow property (race, sex, orientation, religion, etc). These people will make their one defining trait their whole platform and push everything down Division Road. We've seen it time and time again across all of the Western nations. No more.

    27. Re: Mixed feelings by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Or maybe they realized there was no real harm being done, especially in the context of a free society.

      Use free speech, I suppose, to adgitate against the election of someone, for whatever reason, but expect pushback.

      Believe it or not, thinking people should be free is no endorsement that you should be required to blow Nancy Pelosi.

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    28. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And naturally you have categorical fact of this? Or is it simply that you personally haven't grasped that medical knowledge has dramatically changed over the years, and have instead fooled yourself that your dellusion is closer to the truth (which, to be honest, doesn't sound too difficult, right?)

      There's a reason we no longer perform frontal labotomies on patients with mental disorders - or you think that was also the result of doctors being bullied and harrased by the same said 'liberal progressives'?

    29. Re:Mixed feelings by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      "if I prefer natural-born women who grew up female, suddenly I'm evil?"

      Yes, that is one thing that's so bizarre about all this.

      My guess is that the vocal extreme minority of activists (who may not even be or "identify" as trans) have some kind of psychological need for attention or psychodrama. And, like other extreme activists or agitators, their claims and assertions ("raising awareness") are irresistible to the media, who provide them with what they need. And that creates a feedback loop.

    30. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expect someone who always votes to fuck the average person if "she" is elected to office

      So worst case he'll vote the same exact way as th

    31. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked, gender was just as much brain orientation as it is physical.

      Oh wait, you must be someone totally oblivious to the fact that the brain defines everything we are.

      Please don't pretend to convince anyone here that just because you have a 1st grade level understanding of genetics that this somehow makes you as qualified as professionals with multiple years of medical school background?

      What is it with you people? You call trans folk 'mentally ill' yet y'all have delluded your collective selves that you know more about this than medical specialists the world over...

    32. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the person he would replace.

    33. Re:Mixed feelings by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      It doesn't take gerrymandering to keep Democrats in control of Maryland when voter registration skews 2-1 in favor of the Democrats.

      It's actually a surprise that the Republicans hold the edge in voter registration in one of those districts. In every other one it is heavily Democratic.

      They have to have fairly equal number of people in each district so it will naturally require carving up the big population centers which are heavily skewed Democrat.

      It's not like the Electoral College where voters from rural-centric states get far heavier representation. If you are.a rural voter in Maryland you don't get more representation for your vote.

    34. Re: Mixed feelings by c6gunner · · Score: 0

      Or maybe they realized there was no real harm being done, especially in the context of a free society.

      Forcing people to pretend that reality is subjective isn't harmful?

      Good one.

    35. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't support HER choice to run here. I find what SHE did in the past was reprehensible.

      HER crimes have nothing to do with the fact SHE's trans.

      Please do not over generalize here, it's bad enough as it is.

    36. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked, gender was just as much brain orientation as it is physical.

      Gender is defined by the sex chromosome. Chelsea Manning is a man living like a woman, due to his Y chromosomes combined with over-the-top makeup and dresses that would give a transvestite pause.

    37. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why exactly is it that you feel the need to focus so much on this extreme minority segment of an extreme minority? Oh, right, virtue signaling. Carry on.

    38. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off. This isn't Google.

    39. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You just described the POTUS.

      Just needs a twitter account and she is headed for the top.

    40. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Male' and 'female' are human concepts. Nature doesn't give a rats patootie about such things and creates life in a myriad of forms and variations.

      Wow, you're a gigantic idiot.

    41. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who are you to define reality?

      Many women in the 1990s looked at Steven Segal for example, and called him the most perfect example of maculinity . Others saw him as an obnoxious twat.

      Who up and made you god and the final arbiter on how the human brain works? Your sense of dellusion is showing there, pal.

    42. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Can't judge any of these elected politicians because they haven't been doing the job for long enough.

      Trump gave himself and his friends a massive tax cut, at the expense of the people who voted for him.

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    43. Re: Mixed feelings by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 0, Troll

      I think it's worse than that. Manning did what he did purely out of spite. He had no fucking idea the contents of what he was leaking, he just wanted to leak it, even if it meant putting people's lives at risk, simply because he hated being in the Army. He had no political goal other than that, just pure spite. He has an established history of not giving a shit about anybody but himself.

      http://huwieler.net/2017/01/18...

      It's a total travesty that the media has any sympathy for him at all.

    44. Re: Mixed feelings by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      And, if a child is born without arms, they no longer meet your definition out for 'human' because there's a defect there as well?

      While I disagree with most of Baron_Yam's points, there was nothing in his(*) post that said people with abnormalities are not 'human.'

      'Male' and 'female' are human concepts. Nature doesn't give a rats patootie about such things and creates life in a myriad of forms and variations.

      Yeah, not so much. 'Male' and 'female' are most certainly biological concepts, and nature does indeed care about such things because they are necessary for a species to procreate. That being said, people who identify as something other than their birth-gender are still human, and I accept their wish to be recognized as they present themselves. Nature may care about procreation, but human society cares about mutual respect and protection.

      (*) I say "his" because Baron_Yam appears to identify as male, having granted himself the title of "Baron".

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    45. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again you armchair scientists use your first grade knowledge and pretend you know it all.

      The sex chromosomes play a major part, but not the final arbiter. Or you another loony who has fooled themselves into thinking that ALL women have 2 X's and that everyone has but 1 single pair?

      Whilst your at it, ignore the research into the CAG repeat length on the Androgen receptor Gene, and the role that may be playing into the formation of the gender of the grey matter in the brain, irrespective of the pair of sex determining chromosomes (and since you appear to be ignorant I'll clue you in, we're talking about the gene in position Xq12 so yes, we're talking sex chromosomes).

      Must be nice to live in that oh so simple tiny mind where everything is so organized, simpleand easy enough to grasp that even a 5 year old would be bored in...

      Odd how genetic scientists spend years trying to understand DNA, and you meanwhile think it's actually monumentally simple.

    46. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who are you, to force your reality on everyone else? You can call him a her all you want and that is fine. But remember your standard about imposing your reality when the rest of us donâ(TM)t play into Mr Mannings delusions.

    47. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then, pray tell, show us where nature obeys these concepts. Just because the normal result is a body and brain in alignment, doesn't mean that's always the case.

      Humans are 'normally' (90%) right handed and, until somewhat recently, lefties were considered almost demonic and possessed.

      Nature and it's variance at work. Deny it all you want, nature doesn't give a shit about your ignorance.

    48. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think of lobotomies often as well when it come to the transgender identity disorder. It was less than 40 years ago that top psychologists finally stopped smashing peoples brain with an ice pick when they had mental challenges. Now that they are enlighted theyâ(TM)ve moved to choppoing off their genitals.

    49. Re:Mixed feelings by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      She is not running against a Conservative or even a Republican -- yet. She has to first primary against the current Dem in office. Which means the whole "If you don't vote for me you are some kind of bad phobic person" only serves to fracture the Left. She has also tweeted out EXTREMELY anti-cop screeds, which would make her the darling of the BLM crowd, if the BLM crowd weren't traditionally homo/trans phobic (American politics is funny that way). So the only group that really benefits from Manning running is the GOP, who will face an already bloodied Dem candidate, whether it be Manning or the incumbent.

    50. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the brain can be aligned to fit the body then I'm sure that'll became option. Until then, when the brain dictates one gender, the body another, M2F transgendered folk have to undergo surgery that reuses much of their existing genitals (so no, they don't just 'cut the off')

      And of course, your statement is twice as ridiculous when applied to F2M transgendered people.

    51. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steven Segal? Surely not. All that steroid abuse makes him look like he's about to burst. See also John Travolta, Val Kilmer.

    52. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, they dont slice it off, they simply cut it to ribbins and stuff it up inside thereby forcing the recipient of this treatment to daily painful and bloody dialation to maintain an open hole? Yes that makes it much more sane.

    53. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      So you have a preference for certain races, hair colours etc. But say you met the perfect woman. You became great friends, she was beautiful, you enjoyed each other's company, you wanted the same things in life, basically your ideal partner in every way...

      And then she tells you that she is trans. Would you break up with her because of that? Would you rule out sex because of it, despite everything else being ideal for you?

      Preferences are one thing, but having a blanket ban on sexual relations with women you eventually discover are trans or... Grew up with a different cultural background to you, or looked 15 years younger than she actually is, since you mention those things.

      If you wouldn't sleep with women in any or all of those categories despite any other factors, can you explain why?

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    54. Re:Mixed feelings by ChatHuant · · Score: 1

      expect to be told if you don't support Manning you're transphobic

      I don't live in Maryland, but if somebody tried to pitch a candidate this way, I'd be really wary of voting for him/her. I don't care about the candidate's sexuality. What I care about is the candidate's program, his goals and his capability to execute. Someone whose election program is based on identity politics is inherently divisive - and this will impact his capability to execute his program, even if it's a good one.

      As I see it, the whole point of elections is that voters choose the candidate who will improve their lives, or society. Different groups with different interests will vote for different candidates, and that's how democracy works. The "transphobic" pitch sounds like guilting people into voting for somebody who doesn't actually represent their best interest. I doubt it will work.

    55. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm 100% certain Manning's heart is in the right place. But she's impulsive in a dangerous way, politically inexperienced, and has proven herself a bad judge of character in terms of who she allies herself with. I just don't see any good coming out of this.

      OK, so lets go through the other senators shall we?
      You know, the ones where you know the heart isn't in the right place and while they are politically experienced they are manipulative in a dangerous way and have proven themselves to be of bad character themselves.
      Yet people keep voting for them.

    56. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These questions are so much simpler if you avoid extra-marital sex. I wouldn't marry a trans woman because doing so would eliminate the possibility of having children. I wouldn't have sex with a trans woman because I don't have sex with anyone but my spouse.

    57. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... the same as their identified sex ...

      They may identify as female but such men haven't had to face the problems of menstrual cramps, pregnancy, abortion, miscarriage, childbirth or breast-feeding. It means they are also isolated from the sex they identify as having. There is a very real difference in gender experience with even sexual harassment and sexual humiliation being different because they learnt sexuality from a male perspective.

    58. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The conservative victim narrative

      Drink! AmiMojo doing his "I know you are but what am I" bit with the "conservatives victim narrative" narrative!

    59. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and given the historic failure of universal monogamy even in periods of history and in cultures with terrible consequences for those who 'strayed' I'd say that there is ample evidence that monogamy works very well for some people, is tolerable for a bunch more and works very poorly for others.

      So, congratulations, your life choices make this a simple question for _you_ to answer. Care to generalise the 'solution'?

      Bell curve distributions. Lifetime pair-bonding (monogamy) vs other (polygamy or shorter-term relationships). Sexual preference. Sexual orientation/identity. There's a lot of people, a lot of ways of living. Smile. The world is far, far more interesting and diverse than you think.

    60. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i was going to post a comment with the same sentiment.

      a nightmare for national security.

    61. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you wouldn't sleep with women in any or all of those categories despite any other factors, can you explain why?

      Sexual preference is intensely personal and not up for debate. It's none of your goddamned business.

      I only date white women who date white men exclusively. Is it a problem? Of course not, but I'll bet you think it is...

    62. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd how genetic scientists spend years trying to understand DNA, and you meanwhile think it's actually monumentally simple.

      Odd how you'll do mental backflips to justify the mental illness that is transexuality.

    63. Re:Mixed feelings by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      The U.S. simply elects politicians with name recognition.

      If Homer Simpson ran for office, he'd likely get elected.

    64. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      she's impulsive in a dangerous way, politically inexperienced, and has proven herself a bad judge of character in terms of who she allies herself with.

      So you're saying she should run for President instead?

    65. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am surprised a convicted felon can even run for federal or state office. Especially since he was convicted of violating the US Espionage Act. His sentence was commuted to time served but he is still a convicted felon. Usually a convicted felon is not allowed to vote in a federal election.

      But the bottom line is why does this whole trans gender issue, that only effectives a teeny tiny number of people, get elevated to extinction level event. And add the whole bathroom gender emergency to the discussion and you start to see a public that cannot function without some kind of outrage to scream about.

    66. Re:Mixed feelings by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Really? Can you site your sources please? I didn't vote for him and I'm not a friend of his but starting next month my pay check will be going up $130 per week.

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    67. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      According to this you would need to be earning well over 100k to see anything like that kind of cut: https://twocents.lifehacker.co...

      Note that the very rich, like Trump, get a far bigger tax break.

      Maybe you earn less but gain in other ways. In any case, that $1.5 trillion has to come from somewhere and in this case it's cuts to things like healthcare.

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    68. Re: Mixed feelings by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Defend it, all too easy. Fact, government secrecy is an anathema to democracy. Every citizen has 100% right to all information about their government, that would affect the vote of that citizen. For the government to use the tax payers money, to keep secrets from the tax payer (keep in bloody mind who works for whom) that would affect the vote of the citizens is an electoral crime and a denial of the right of citizens to a fair vote. Democracy based upon lies is no Democracy, it is an autocracy controlled by those that tell the lies and that includes lies of omission.

      I would struggle with the nature of the person, living a lie. There is nothing wrong with expressing yourself in a gender based manner which suits your personality but you should not need to pretend to be the other gender (there are elements within society, that force gender behavioural norms, that prevent people from expressing themselves in what ever gender based manner they prefer, without also being forced to pretend to be that gender, the expression is individual, the gender change is forced by societies demanded gender behavioural norms, clothing, behaviour, speech).

      The freedom to express yourself in a more masculine or feminine fashion, should not also require that you attempt to change sex to be accepted but society still struggles with more feminine men, not so much with more masculine women, they get more acceptance and hence the need to change to the other sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., tends to occur a lot less. Ohh and James Damore has every right to sue the living crap out of the arse holes at Google.

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    69. Re: Mixed feelings by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Democrats are making the same mistake when they picked Obama and then Clinton: in the desperate grasp for their most strong argument: populism, they over rewarded minorities and alienated their other base: politically active working class, mostly white men.

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    70. Re:Mixed feelings by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      The data you linked to shows that you are wrong. Virtually everyone across the board is getting a tax break. Poking some numbers into the CNN tax calculator itself shows that you are wrong too.

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/...

      Seems you are making another general assessment without proper facts again. What cuts to healthcare have been made? Please cite your sources.

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    71. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      According to that calculator a household earning $40k will get a 0.5% tax break. Is that a net benefit to them, given the massive cuts needed to fund this $1.5 trillion package? I guess that's debatable. Also, is it fair for them to get 0.5% while the super rich get 3.6%?

      In any case, House Speaker Paul Ryan said that the plan was to fund this with cuts to "entitlements", which means things like Medicare and Medicade. So not only do less well off Americans get less of a cut, but the plan is to fund that cut by taking $1.5 trillion out of the services that help them survive on that kind of income.

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    72. Re:Mixed feelings by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Did you take into account the standard deduction of $12,000 for a single filer? That will drop a single filer with a $40K income from the 22% tax bracket down to the 12% tax bracket.

      Comments?

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    73. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The term "household" generally refers to more than one person.

      Anyway, the point stands. You can get different numbers with different parameters, but even for a single person on 40k the rate is only about 1.3%.

      So, the question remains. Is that better than having $1.5 trillion in extra funding for services?

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    74. Re:Mixed feelings by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      I still think you are over simplifying it. With the standard deduction your rate drops from 22% to 10%. Which is a lot of people problems with taxes. They look at top numbers and just run with those. But is also part of the problem with the system. It is just way to over complex. You look at it one way and get a different set over numbers than I do.

      An fair warning, you don't want me to get started on that $1.5 trillion. There is not a enough bits in /. comment database for me to express how unhappy I am with that.

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    75. Re:Mixed feelings by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Oh and looking at the high end tax bracket. Yeah, I do see your point.

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    76. Re: Mixed feelings by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Sure. It's a mind in a body of the wrong sex. That's a disorder, all right.

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    77. Re:Mixed feelings by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Because other people try to mess their lives up. Seriously, I don't care about a person's genetic makeup of the details of their physiology. That's their business. The whole reason this is even a political thing is right-wingers using it as an edge issue.

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    78. Re:Mixed feelings by dcw3 · · Score: 2

      "It's actually a surprise that the Republicans hold the edge in voter registration in one of those districts. In every other one it is heavily Democratic."

      Isn't that one of the gerrymander techniques? Put as much of the opposing party in a single district, and control the remainder.

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    79. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shocking that those who pay the most taxes would get the biggest tax cut. Duh!

    80. Re:Mixed feelings by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      "And then she tells you that she is trans. Would you break up with her because of that? "

      Yes. If I wanted children, that's not happening.

      I could never trust someone who told me, after the fact. It's like a lie of omission. Would you trust someone who told you after sex that they had herpes?

       

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    81. Re:Mixed feelings by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      "I don't care about the candidate's sexuality. What I care about is the candidate's program, his goals and his capability to execute. "

      And this is why I found HRC's whole misogyny campaign to be dishonest. Elect me because I'm a woman...you didn't see that from any other female candidate previously. But to be sure, we'll have people voting for Oprah in order to have the first black female instead of a qualified candidate.

      And no, I didn't vote for Trump.

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    82. Re:Mixed feelings by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What about you omitting the fact that you want children? If you expect her to tell you that she is trans and thus incapable of getting pregnant early on, doesn't it follow that you should also tell her that you want children very early on as well?

      And if so, at what point do you tell her?

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    83. Re:Mixed feelings by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Told my wife (my 2nd) that I was done with kids right up front. My own (I was a single dad) was already eight, and I was about 40 yrs old, not wanting to raise children into my 60s. Why waste your time and hers on something that's just a nonstarter? Clearly, those discussions would be well before you decide that the person is your "ideal partner".

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    84. Re: Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you are but what am I

  3. Well, He's a Perfect Fit for Maryland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Represents the liberal shithole quite well.

    1. Re:Well, He's a Perfect Fit for Maryland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manning, who comes in from the outside could tap a network of donors interested in elevating a progressive agenda...

      But could she tap that anymore?

  4. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you expecting people to react badly to this? I actually don't think people will be too bothered by Manning running for the Senate. We have traitors in the White House, so why not have traitors in the Senate as well?

  5. Opposition research won't be too hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-wikileaks-judge-verdict

    That being said she has no qualifications to be a senator. No government, executive, business or military experience to warrant voting for her.

  6. Re:Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To avoid unnecessary controversy in situations like this, I propose using a new pronoun (s)he.

  7. listen fuckers by Osgeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you have had CES running all week, and yet you shitpost from CNN, why is this news for nerds? People file to run for public office all the time.

    Fuck you Chinese Slashdot

    1. Re: listen fuckers by dberry9300 · · Score: 1

      I will not listen fuckers

    2. Re:listen fuckers by ELCouz · · Score: 1

      Wow someone is salty today.

    3. Re:listen fuckers by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and yet you shitpost from CNN,

      which part of "An anonymous reader quotes the Washington Post:" makes you think this is from CNN? was it the "(washingtonpost.com)" link?

      why is this news for nerds?

      i feel like you have discounted the slogan: "Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters"

      People file to run for public office all the time.

      People that have been charged with literal treason for doing what they felt was right. This is a high profile individual.

      Fuck you Chinese Slashdot

      Fuck you, Slashdot doesn't even have basic UTF8 support much less any support of any Chinese character sets!

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    4. Re:listen fuckers by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Has there even been one single "Announced at CES" post this week? I dont remember seeing any.

    5. Re:listen fuckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WaPo is worse than CNN these days... it's been downhill ever since SJW Bezos bought them.

    6. Re:listen fuckers by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Can you post the link to your firehose submission for those CES stories?

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    7. Re:listen fuckers by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Clarification: I mean the ones you submitted of course.

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  8. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't you been watching the news? The muslim traitor Obama is out of the white house.

  9. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agree

  10. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not good enough. Some people say there are more than two genders. If you want to play it safe, use 'it' as your pronoun.

  11. Traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chelsea Manning took an oath then broke it. He had no idea what was in all those files he released and it could have been information that got soldiers killed. That piece of shit deserves to stare at vertical metal bars for the rest of his life.

    1. Re: Traitor by Nidi62 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Technically "he" did spend the rest of his life behind bars, because "he" no longer exists. Manning is a "she" now.

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    2. Re: Traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Getting your dick cut off doesn't make you a "she", "he" is still male.

    3. Re: Traitor by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      That's a cute defence.

      "For 250 counts of first degree murder, you are hereby sentenced to death."

      "Actually, I'm a woman now."

      "Oh, well in that case you're free to go!"

    4. Re: Traitor by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      That kind of defence is as lame as changing your name and then claiming the suspect no longer exists.

      Don't get me wrong, changing your gender is certainly more onerous a choice than changing your name, but come on, you are still you.

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    5. Re: Traitor by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 1

      That kind of defence is as lame as changing your name and then claiming the suspect no longer exists.

      Well it has worked for Popes so why shouldn't it work for a common person?

    6. Re: Traitor by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      He still exists. The fact that he's now a she does not mean this is a different person. just means we're using a different set of pronouns to refer to the same person.

    7. Re: Traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A guy in a dress is a guy in a dress. A guy.

      A guy in a dress who had his crank chopped off is a guy in a dress that had his crank chopped off. A guy.

      Arguing that a man is a woman because he chooses to be is like another guy having a horn surgically implanted on his forehead and demanding special rights because he identifies as a unicorn which is (as there is only one) an endangered species. Both men have equally valid/invalid arguments, and both are equally nuts.

      If someone wants to argue that Chelsea is female, you must also argue that the nut with the horn on his forehead isn't a man but a unicorn.

  12. Re: Typo in article by olsmeister · · Score: 0

    Are you referring to the artist formerly known as Prince?

  13. passing military secrets to wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So she was ultimately helping the russians to try to throw the elections you say.

    1. Re:passing military secrets to wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're talking about Manning, Not Hillary.

    2. Re:passing military secrets to wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Democrats should try picking someone that isn't a corporatist war mongering piece of shit?

      The problem most Democrats have with Trump is simply that he's rude. If he was more polite they could easily be swayed to support his disgusting policy positions.

    3. Re:passing military secrets to wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Hillary sold the US to half the countries on the globe. Manning just provided evidence to inform the Russians that Hillary wasn't staying bought (and took money from others as well as the Russians).

  14. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, you prefer your politicians to be criminals who haven't been caught yet... gotcha.

  15. Criminal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Doesn't the USA have laws against convicted criminals being elected for public office? Regardless of what you think about her, she still was convicted of a serious crime. How is she fit to serve?

    1. Re:Criminal? by gremlin_591002 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are some basic rules for running for the Senate, but criminal offenses are covered by state laws. In this case Maryland has chosen to allow felons to represent them. I have no idea how we have gotten to this point but I sure wish we could do take backs...

    2. Re:Criminal? by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Depends on the state:
      http://www.newsweek.com/chelse...

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    3. Re:Criminal? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, the US does not have laws against convicted criminals from being elected to public office, and it absolutely shouldn't have those laws. The fitness of someone to serve is ultimately determined by the public.

      If you block people from being elected (or people from voting) who have committed crimes, you allow unjust laws to ferment unchallenged, and you encourage politicians to pass laws that disproportionately affect their opponents.

      Yes, in some cases, that means a murderer or a rapist might be elected. But that's unlikely, I don't see the public supporting the election of a convicted murderer any time soon.

      As for Manning? She did what did for the reasons we know. In my view, I'm less bothered about the notion that she violated the law by leaking secret information as I am that she did so impulsively and without care about who she handed that information over to. She's probably a good person, but her lack of care, not the fact she technically violated the law, is a greater concern here.

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    4. Re:Criminal? by mellon · · Score: 1

      Her prefrontal cortex has grown quite a bit since then...

    5. Re: Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He... It...

    6. Re:Criminal? by arth1 · · Score: 2

      If you block people from being elected (or people from voting) who have committed crimes, you allow unjust laws to ferment unchallenged, and you encourage politicians to pass laws that disproportionately affect their opponents.

      Very true. Unfortunately, the US has not taken the full steps needed to avoid this, due to disenfranchisement of felons. In a two-party system, this invites those in charge to make and enact laws that hit the other side harder than theirs.
      Most democracies have safeguards to prevent this, most notably by making voting an inalienable right. You then can't silence opponents by creating unfair laws, and then take away people's right to vote when they break them.

    7. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's a wise rule of Maryland, because it is a standard tactic of fascist regimes and dictators to make sure that political opponents get convicted as felons. It's a good safeguard, take a look at Russia to see what happens if you don't have it.

    8. Re:Criminal? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Maybe Manning is just trying to balance things out? I mean, right now the Republicans have four convicted criminals running for Congress in 2018 and the Democrats only have one. If Manning runs and the Dems can drum up two more, they'll have achieved parity.

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    9. Re:Criminal? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Do those laws include pardoned felons though? Is a pardon in the US only a get out of jail card, not forgiveness for the crime?

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    10. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Roy Moore almost got elected, and look at who's assuming PotUS

    11. Re: Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arpaio, Gianforte, Trump and who else?

    12. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Her scentence was commuted, not pardoned.

    13. Re:Criminal? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Seems to me a lot of the things that can make a senator very wealthy and influential can also kind of accidentally make you a felon if you happen to get caught at it. The senators are probably aware of that and would rather not risk their shiny income in the event they do accidentally get caught at it. Felons in general probably have a better approval rating than Congress, anyway.

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    14. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manning wasn’t pardoned. He/she/it had the sentence commuted, which means it stays on record but ends at that point.

    15. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wasn't pardoned. His sentence was commuted. Which a reduction in the severity of the penalty he would suffer for his crimes. A pardon would have vacated the conviction. You can argue what this should mean, but what it actually means is that his conviction stands. And he remains a convicted felon.

    16. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, what seems to you is not what determines whether Manning can run for Senate. The law does.

    17. Re: Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think anyone named Trump is running for Congress in 2018. Now you've got two names to discover.

    18. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not just Maryland. Two words: Joe Arpaio.

    19. Re:Criminal? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      To be completely fair, the will of the people should almost always override government mandated qualifications.

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    20. Re:Criminal? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Ah, good point, thanks.

      Also, thanks for being the 1 out of 3 AC replies that didn't mis-gender her.

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    21. Re:Criminal? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Impulsivity is common in the young. When he leaked those documents, Bradley Manning still had a couple of years to go before he could legally rent a car in many parts of the US.

    22. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... no idea how we have gotten to this point ...

      The idea that ex-criminals should always be treated as criminals, is a uniquely American idea. By that thinking, I should treat everyone as pant-shitting babies and self-important virgins. (Aside: Admitting one is cheap and desperate doesn't remove delusions of self-importance but like disease and pregnancy, getting manipulated by one's own organs, is a great leveler.)

      Sure, certain crimes, such as treason, may make one unfit for public office but that has its own problems.

    23. Re:Criminal? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      SHe is a hero.

      She did nothing wrong under whistle blower laws at the illegal and unconstitutional roles of the NSA and their acts of espionage agaisn't American companies.

      We all go all crazy about how evil the NSA is for asking for private keys, monitoring cell phones without taping warrants, killing Iraqi civilians, and other illicit activities we are protected under with a national whistleblower laws. BUT... but ... we all go how evil and unamerican and traterious she is and go on about USA USA we are the best and watch Fox News.

      WTF. We might as well call MLK a criminal too who incites hate and violence. I bet if the conservative media we have today was around back then MLK never would have been effective.

    24. Re:Criminal? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      What our government was doing is not right. Both her and Julian just supplied the news and blew the whistle on them FYI ARE OR SHOULD be protected under law. But nope patriotism comes first.

    25. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Is a pardon in the US only a get out of jail card, not forgiveness for the crime?

      Seems like a pardon is good enough for Arpaio.

    26. Re:Criminal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      you allow unjust laws to ferment unchallenged

      If out of the many millions of people in your country you can't find someone to represent you view against unjust laws who isn't a convicted felon then there is something very wrong with your country.

      The main problem here is the public will stand behind anyone or anything (as evident from the monkeys currently in power capable of only throwing feces at each other while grabbing people by their pussies). The public is a crap judge of character. Past actions however is a pretty good judge.

      I also call bullshit about vindictive laws being published, especially since the whole point of a democracy is that the laws are the will of the electorate (or at least it should be). You don't see this in most other democracies. e.g. Australia. The constitution has very few protected rights of the people, not even free speech, however it bans people holding office if convicted of an offence punishable by more than 1 year in prison. This is specifically to prevent inciting corruption. There's other checks too, such as you can't be bankrupt or insolvent, be making any profit off the government both directly and indirectly (exceptions being positions appointed by the Queen, e.g. governor can run for parliament).

    27. Re:Criminal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      All of which is completely and utterly irrelevant to my question.

    28. Re:Criminal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That's a big problem if you have fascist regimes and dictators. But there are many countries which have laws like this and didn't turn into Russia.

      Your example is like saying that everyone who sneezes will die of ebola.

    29. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, as opposed to Ukraine that had a guy who stole hats as a president leading up to the outbreak of a civil fucking war.

    30. Re:Criminal? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Don't see a problem with this. I'm happy to leave it for the people to decide on a case by case basis, especially something like this where opinions are strongly divided.

    31. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we had similar laws in germany, hitler wouldn't have been able to represent the NSDAP though.

    32. Re:Criminal? by mapkinase · · Score: 1, Insightful

      >The fitness of someone to serve is ultimately determined by the public.

      You are saying like this is something even remotely intelligent.

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    33. Re:Criminal? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Why should the US have such laws? Let the voters decide. I'd be dubious of voting for someone convicted of a serious crime, personally, but I wouldn't rule it out entirely. It would be a significant campaign issue.

      I don't think I ever said she was fit to serve. Fitness for service is not a requirement to run in an election (or be elected, for that matter).

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    34. Re:Criminal? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Giving people free license to release and distribute classified materials because they think it's the right thing to release some of it is not a good idea.

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    35. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would do well to read why our government was set up to defend the individual against the will of the people (majority).

    36. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, should we remove the laws preventing felons from owning firearms?

      Would you do away with the requirement for convicted rapists and pedophiles to register everywhere they move?

    37. Re:Criminal? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      So, should we remove the laws preventing felons from owning firearms?

      Would you do away with the requirement for convicted rapists and pedophiles to register everywhere they move?

      After the sentence is served, they should be treated like any other citizen. If you don't think they are rehabilitated, why are they released from prison?

      Spend more money on actual rehabilitation, and less on punishment. Give the convicts a chance to get a full life back, or they will already have given up. Recidivism rates are much lower in Scandinavian countries where the focus is on rehabilitation.

    38. Re:Criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You appear to be confusing Manning with Snowden. Snowden revealed the NSA domestic spying program. Manning's leaks lead to Wikileaks editing a video and publishing it under the heading collateral murder with the intention of framing it out of context. That video was pretty much the signature highlight of the Manning leaks.

  16. Um...qualification? by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    I suppose being convicted and imprisoned will at least make Manning unfriendly to the government - although then: why become part of it?

    Being transgender will automatically win over some of the more extreme progs, but beyond that: exactly why would voters want Manning in the government, representing them? Poor education, no professional experience to speak of, shaky mental health from all that time in solitary confinement. Why would Manning (or whoever is really behind the senate run) think that voters would be interested?

    Cynically, there is some bigger game being played here.

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    1. Re:Um...qualification? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it's about name recognition and which identity grievance group you belong to now that matters.

      Or how much money you bring to the table to get yourself elected.

      In any case, go ahead and run and roll the dice. But people are still going to hear the entire details of her escapades. It's not pretty and she's no hero to many even in Maryland.

    2. Re:Um...qualification? by mellon · · Score: 0

      If all this run does is stimulate some interesting conversations, it will have been worth it.

    3. Re:Um...qualification? by c · · Score: 0

      Poor education, no professional experience to speak of, shaky mental health from all that time in solitary confinement.

      Good point. You think she should run for President instead?

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    4. Re: Um...qualification? by kenh · · Score: 1

      So how much will you contribute to her campaign to unseat the two-year Democrat from Maryland?

      Once the 'interesting conversation' is over, you'll be left with a democrat senator with a dubious grasp of secrecy and no qualifications for office other than a passion for prison reform and fringe gender issues.

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    5. Re: Um...qualification? by kenh · · Score: 1

      What makes her a better choice than giving the current Democrat a third term? Seriously, she'd be taking the place of a well-liked, well-supported Democrat because...

      I think democrats will be torn between their current Senator and this 'flavor of the month' candidate Manning.

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    6. Re: Um...qualification? by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Manning is the 4th Democrat to file for this office so far. The primary in May will weed out which one will end up in the general election, and it probably won't be her. Given the office is held by a well-respected two time Democratic senator, she probably doesn't have the traction to replace him, even with major name recognition.

      If her ultimate goal is book sales for her life story, running for office is a great way to keep her name in the news. Otherwise, being released, she's yesterday's news.

    7. Re: Um...qualification? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calling someone a girl is not an insult! Saying "her a better choice..." is just sexist of you. He is a man, and accusing women of being inferior is horrific of you. No wonder the tech industry has such a bad reputation. Most men get past using that as an insult by the time they're in middle school.

    8. Re:Um...qualification? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor education, no professional experience to speak of, shaky mental health from all that time in solitary confinement.

      Good point. You think she should run for President instead?

      Isn't there an age minimum?

      Too bad there isn't a maximum.

    9. Re: Um...qualification? by Uberbah · · Score: 0

      If her ultimate goal is book sales for her life story, running for office is a great way to keep her name in the news. Otherwise, being released, she's yesterday's news.

      My, what great sniveling snobbery you have, my dear. If you can't win by yourself against an authoritarian police state committing and covering up crimes against humanity, at least you can do your part to bring attention to it. By doing things like running for office even if it only means getting 1% of the vote in a primary, so people don't forget what you did or went through.

    10. Re:Um...qualification? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      "I suppose being convicted and imprisoned will at least make Manning unfriendly to the government - although then: why become part of it?"

      In a democracy, when you disagree with the government and there isn't anyone you want to vote for, you're supposed to run for office to effect change.

    11. Re: Um...qualification? by mellon · · Score: 1

      I didn't contribute anything. What part of "conversation" didn't you understand? :)

    12. Re: Um...qualification? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...probably won't be him...

      captcha is accuracy

    13. Re: Um...qualification? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "so people don't forget what you did or went through."

      Oh, we won't forget what a treasonous act he committed.

    14. Re: Um...qualification? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Of following her Oath of Office to defend the Constitution - not your war criminal neocons.

  17. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well, having a president struck by senile imbecility ain't much better, is it?

  18. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    To be truly fair we should use (s)he/it but make it shorter and just use (s)h/it.

  19. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    The real question does Chelsea use Linux?

  20. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It

  21. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It wouldn't be, but thankfully Trump beat Hillary.

  22. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apologies. Wasn't aware this article was about you.

    What is it with utter twats and wankers like you revelling in taking the shit out if trans folks? Bully much?

    For the record, I think the idea that she's running for office is reprehensible at best.

  23. Mixed views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At least she's for government transparency.

  24. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The devil you know....

  25. Re: I'd votre for her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chopadickoffofme.

  26. Qualification: Is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bradley Manning stole every Army document he could get his hands on and he gave them to "activists" who work for hostile intelligence agencies. That is why the powers promoting him want him in our government. He will continue working for them.

  27. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However, a candidate with national name recognition, such as Manning, who comes in from the outside could tap a network of donors interested in elevating a progressive agenda...

    Aside from leaking federal secrets and violating an oath, what can this 'novelty' candidate offer the voters of Maryland as opposed to their current representative?

    As the 2016 and other special elections proved, money alone won't carry a candidate into office, and candidate Manning will first have to beat another candidate in the Democrat primary, the sitting two-term senator.

    Many voters in Maryland are Gov't workers, and I suspect a fair number of them will not be willing to excuse manning's crimes. The only reason manning can even attempt to credibly run for office is her unique gender history, and that won't secure a majority in the 2018 election.

  28. Re: Typo in article by pedz · · Score: 0

    For the record, I think the idea that she's running for office is reprehensible at best.

    Well... what is even more scary is the people that vote for (oh dear.... I'm caught in gender reference hell ...) Manning. THERE!!!! I did it !

  29. Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, in some cases, that means a murderer or a rapist might be elected. But that's unlikely,

    Fixing both grammar and logic...

    Yes, in some cases, that means a convicted murderer or a rapist might be elected, but that's unlikely.

    Unfortunately, we know with a great degree of confidence that alleged murderers and/or rapists get elected quite often.

  30. Completely against this by ArtemaOne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Bradley (active duty) released the stuff to wikileaks he did it in mass. He did not discriminate well on what he released. The video of killing the people, and then killing of the people coming to rescue the injured, is one thing. I wouldn't have ever done it, but I get what he was going for. Releasing tons of unrelated stuff that can hurt our objectives and server members is unforgivable. Now that Chelsea is released from prison she is using her trans status as a vehicle to jump on the progressive train for her own benefit. I heard that while in the Army he was a terrible private, and that gives me no confidence in him that could help recover his betrayal of the country he wants to represent. I say no, never. And it has nothing to do with her transition. (Gender applied chronologically)

    1. Re: Completely against this by bestweasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "while in the Army he was a terrible private"

      I heard that too: refused to target civilians with bombs, drones and trigger-happy military convoys, didn't take part in torturing or degrading prisoners, wouldn't cover up war crimes, a total disgrace to the US military.

    2. Re: Completely against this by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      And had no opportunities to do any of that. So if you're listing things he couldn't have done as things he didn't do, then he didn't go to the moon or dive to the bottom of the ocean.

    3. Re: Completely against this by ScentCone · · Score: 2

      I heard that too: refused to target civilians with bombs, drones and trigger-happy military convoys, didn't take part in torturing or degrading prisoners, wouldn't cover up war crimes, a total disgrace to the US military.

      Not sure why you think you're scoring some sort of only-in-your-own-echo-chamber rhetorical points when trotting out stuff that Manning had, literally, nothing to do with. He was simply being a drama queen and looking for attention, and indiscriminately dumped a mountain of sensitive information out there for consumption by - among other people - those who would be very happy to kill people just like him on religious grounds, and kill our military and intelligence people for working to defend against just that. Your cartoon villain portrait of everyone in the military shows you're not equipped to even talk about this in informed, rational terms.

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    4. Re: Completely against this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      simply being a drama queen and looking for attention

      This actually worked for someone recently seeking office.

    5. Re:Completely against this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I keep hearing she was a bad private from people who seem to need something to put in the negatives category

      You know what makes most of these people good soldiers?

      They don't either, because they're normal enough to not have a history of being tortured just by being there, they're not the peg that sticks out and gets hammered down, and the idea of actually being that person never occurred to them.

      I don't even mean trans people here, just actual nerds... which seem, frankly, to be in short supply around this site these days.

    6. Re:Completely against this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Now that Chelsea is released from prison she is using her trans status as a vehicle to jump on the progressive train for her own benefit.

      On what basis do you come to that conclusion? Seems like her leaking of the video gives her much stronger bonafides. I don't see anything in her campaign ad about being trans.

      There is a certain portion of the population who like to complain as loudly as they can about (democrat) "identity politics" - when the reality is that democratic identity politics isn't about elevation to special status, but simply welcoming of the marginalized to equal status with the mainstream. Somebody like Danica Roehm, the other trans candidate of recent note, didn't win or even run on a campaign of her being trans, but on fixing the roads.

    7. Re:Completely against this by mapkinase · · Score: 0

      > Releasing tons of unrelated stuff that can hurt our objectives and server members is unforgivable

      It's praise-worthy, given that US Army is an imperialist global oppression force. Any killing of any US Army servicemen should praised and louded.

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    8. Re:Completely against this by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Well, at least you didn't say US Air Force. I feel better now...

    9. Re: Completely against this by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      simply being a drama queen and looking for attention

      This actually worked for someone recently seeking office.

      You can thank the MSM for the free billion dollars plus of free press he got for that.

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    10. Re:Completely against this by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Based on every article sponsored has it all over the place, including in the title.

  31. Re:Anonymous Cowards for Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better than this... throw all Slashdot ACs in jail...they bring nothing here.

  32. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, of course... Either they aren't criminals, or they are smart.

    Why do you want the dumb ones?

  33. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When people with schizophrenia say they hear voices, it's evil to play along. It's our responsibility to curate what is real for those who cannot.

  34. Let her run... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ... if she is qualified according to the Constitution, then she can run. Whether or not she gets the support required to be successful in her endeavour is up to the people in her state and, unfortunately, outside money donors. I mean, what's the worst that could happen?

    1. Re:Let her run... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was anyone proposing not letting her run?

  35. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A "traitor" who took out America's one true terrorist in recent decades... BinLaden. And in his spare time he got millions healthcare. OMG, stop the presses!

    Yeah, I think a few more of those and the US won't have anyone to shoot at.

  36. Bradley Manning for Rotting Faggot Corpse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deport it to the middle east so they can throw that attention-seeking piece of shit off a building.

    1. Re: Bradley Manning for Rotting Faggot Corpse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you'd be at home there.

  37. Joke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However, a candidate with national name recognition, such as Manning, who comes in from the outside could tap a network of donors interested in elevating a progressive agenda...

    hahahahahahahaha Oh, dear, thank you for the humor this morning.

  38. Re:Typo in article by greenwow · · Score: 1

    That wasn't a typo. It as a school yard insult. The media is sexist, and by using that as an insult, they're proving that. Being a woman is not an insult, and calling him a she to attack him is just childish.

  39. I Question Mr Manning's Stability & Maturity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subjects says it all.

    No leadership experience. Bad follower, too. Uncooperative. Passive aggressive. Sexual identity dysfunction. Immature.

    I thought the senate was for MATURE people.

    Maybe in 20-30 years.

    To think otherwise is hubris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris).

    ~childo

    CAPTCHA: 'busboys', and that is exactly what Mr Manning is qualified to be, right now.

  40. Good for herm! by kaizendojo · · Score: 1

    So sick of this little shit. Can't believe Manning is running for office and Snowden is still living in fear of his life.

    1. Re:Good for herm! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Can't believe Manning is running for office and Snowden is still living in fear of his life.

      So, blame Obama. Manning should still be serving, and Snowden should have been procured and doing the same. Then we'd have similar treatment for people playing fast and loose with classified information ... oh, except for Hillary Clinton, of course. She's special and gets a pass, and all of her staff get immunity deals before talking about her.

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    2. Re:Good for herm! by Baron_Yam · · Score: 0

      > She's special and gets a pass

      You should stop listening to Trump and Fox for a bit and do some research, because all that crap has been debunked multiple times.

      If you're going to see Hillary actually in legal trouble over something, it'll have to be something other than email and uranium. All you're doing is participating in a disinformation campaign designed to help Trump survive the current investigation he's under - an investigation that would go away instantly if he was really a victim of entirely fabricated claims, the same way the Hillary stuff went away... with a completed investigation that finds nothing criminally wrong.

    3. Re:Good for herm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon. Snowden is not in fear for his life. He just released an app which was made by his company. He is active NSA and has resources to do whatever he wants.

    4. Re:Good for herm! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      because all that crap has been debunked multiple times

      What? The email she received, stored, relayed, copied to her lawyer and his staff on thumb drives, dumped on to Huma Abedin's home computer "for printing" and thus exposed to her insane jerk of husband who shared the same laptop ... included classified information, including some stuff that would normally be limited to a very small, compartmentalized audience. Her home computer was almost certainly compromised by multiple foreign actors. And even if it wasn't her deliberately negligent behavior would see ANY another person entrusted with that information out of a job, out of a career, stripped of clearance, and must likely in deep legal jeopardy. People GO TO JAIL for far less serious examples of carelessness. This hasn't been "debunked," it's a simple matter of fact that you're trying to wish away.

      The only reason Hillary's deliberate mis-handling of classified material and a parade of lying on her part about it "went away" is because the people investigating her misconduct chose to give her a degree of looking-the-other-way that nobody else would get. Highly partisan investigators deliberately changed the characterization of her actions as the crimes they were (gross negligence) to prevent her from being indicted. This has nothing to do with Trump, other than the fact that millions of people certainly did get tired of her looking in the eye and plainly lying about her conduct, over and over again. That certainly was a factor in millions of two-time Obama voters turning their backs on her - she's a bald-faced liar who got caught red handed doing something much worse than things that cost other people their careers and their liberty. And she wanted to be the BOSS of people who would go to prison for doing what she did. Stop pretending you don't know all of this.

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    5. Re:Good for herm! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I don't know of anyone going to jail for what she did. I've looked. If you have an example, please post. Specifically, find someone who unintentionally leaked classified materials and served time. I'd be interested to find out.

      I have no idea why you think it was deliberate mishandling, since there's no motive. I do agree that it was a highly partisan investigation, Comey marking himself as virulently anti-Clinton by his sorta-leak in October 2016.

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    6. Re:Good for herm! by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      You're stuck in an echo chamber. She was investigated for the emails - and found to be at fault - but she was not CRIMINALLY at fault. There's a huge difference there.

      This has EVERYTHING to do with Trump, since the primary defense of Trump's reprehensible conduct is, "LOOK AT HILLARY!" as if that would absolve him even if she was Satan incarnate.

      I have to tell you, if I go murder somebody, the next murderer doesn't get a walk if I got away with it. And only one of the two people being discussed happens to be POTUS.

      You're being led by the nose so well you don't even feel it.

  41. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That's what the rest of us call sarcasm. Lighten up, Francis!

    And yes, some of us are very happy that Hillary lost, but unfortunately, the democrat/republican party still won. So we gain nothing.

  42. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have traitors in the White House

    No, the traitor lost, thank god... And if Manning is running as a democrat, then (s)he truly is a traitor also.

  43. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What matters to people, apparently, are legal technicalities rather than character. If a con-man can rewrite the laws so that his con isn't illegal, that's good enough for them.

    In a nutshell, there are a lot of people who are content to be ruled.

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  44. Yet one more mentally ill person joins the swamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congress and the deep state are full of mentally ill people of questionable morals.
    But at least most of them know how to hide it and cover up their misdeeds.

    I cannot believe how UNCHRISTIAN this nation has become to think that someone
    of Mannings (no pun intended) character is not prima facie completely incompetent
    for the position. No one even QUEstions things like that anymore.

    So sad. So disheartening. What hast befallen our once blessed land? Captain
    Oh Captain wherefore are thou?

  45. Republicans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Republicans gay enough to vote for Trump will love Chelsea Manning

  46. Re: Yet one more mentally ill person joins the swa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fag

  47. CES was kinda boring this year by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    a few refreshes from AMD/Intel/Nvidia. A bunch more talk about digital assistants which are just stand alone devices for things most of us already have on our phones. When the most 'exciting' thing that's making the rounds are small laptops with 4G radios built in you know you've got a dud.

    Tech just isn't moving like it used to. Computers have reached 'good enough' territory and cell phones brought so many devices together (phone, mini-tablet, GPS, music player, radio, digital camera/low end camcorder, portable gaming... the list goes on) that there's not a lot of room for gadgets anymore.

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  48. Not so much by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    No joke The GOP has 4 of them running . You can get your rights back in a lot of places. We mostly use denying political rights to keep the 'wrong' (read:poor and minorities) sort from voting. If you've got the money, the time and maybe a few of the right friends it's not hard to get the rights back.

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  49. Re: Typo in article by Edward+Nardella · · Score: 1

    You might want to do some reading about how to respond to people with hallucinations. You appear to be grossly misinformed.

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  50. Authoritarian character assassination by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see you're keeping the streak alive. I have yet to see a person who casts judgment on Manning give one flying fuck about the massive corruption and war crimes she revealed, or want the people who committed those crimes to pay for their actions.

    But she's impulsive in a dangerous way

    Uh, NO. She tried the "chain of command" and was blown off, just as Snowden was. And she gave documents to a responsible organization, one with a 100% track record of authenticity, who vetted them before release. Do tell how she was going to uphold her Oath of Office to defend the Constitution (not neocon war criminals) without leaking to the press.

    politically inexperienced

    She has a whole lot of experience with the lawless authoritarian state and the torture the USG commits against people in detention (prolonged solitary confinement). Getting one advocate against those things into higher office is hardly unreasonable.

    and has proven herself a bad judge of character in terms of who she allies herself with

    She wasn't allied with the FBI stooge Lamo. You referring to Assange here? The same Julian Assange who has a 100% track record of authentic releases, and has been subject to more authoritarian character assassination?

    1. Re: Authoritarian character assassination by c6gunner · · Score: 0

      I have yet to see a person who casts judgment on Manning give one flying fuck about the massive corruption and war crimes she revealed

      Yeah, totally! And not a single one of them gives a fuck that he also like totally proved the existence of Bigfoot and Nessie, either!

      Shake up weeple!

    2. Re:Authoritarian character assassination by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It's been a while, but IIRC lots of her supporters don't really know what a war crime is. War is an ugly business, and there's a lot of horrible things that aren't war crimes, but rather are what war demands. (Obviously, there were war crimes in Iraq, possibly including waging aggressive war, but that's not what we're talking about.) We already knew about corruption.

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    3. Re:Authoritarian character assassination by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      It's been a while, but IIRC lots of her supporters don't really know what a war crime is.

      Uh huh. And by that same token, can you name the ones she did reveal without searching?

      War is an ugly business, and there's a lot of horrible things that aren't war crimes, but rather are what war demands.

      Easy for you to say. Wonder if you'd have the same cavalier attitude, though, if it was your wedding that was drone bombed, then the funeral, then a double-tap on any first responders trying to rescue survivors. And then the same forces spent over an hour bombing the local hospital, just in case.

  51. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bin Laden died non-violently from kidney failure in December 2001.

  52. Triggered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Conservatives are triggered: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/13/convicted-classified-docs-leaker-transgender-former-army-private-chelsea-manning-run-u-s-senate/

  53. Based on charges... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not qualified for office. Next.

  54. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Joce640k · · Score: 0

    Remember: The current politicians are the ones who write the laws. It's no wonder their crimes aren't illegal.

    They also plan to not have other types of people in office, hence Chelsea's predicament.

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  55. Re: Oooh, boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where have you been? Hillary was expected to win, but she actually lost. So, no the bribed secretary of state, who sold her country to the highest bidder multiple times (to multiple countries), lost the Presidential election. Geez. It's been a year. Did you really miss it?

  56. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Release the whatabouts!

  57. Re:Anonymous Cowards for Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Switch the site to Ars Technica style moderation and I'd completely agree with you.

  58. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chelsea who?

  59. Re:Anonymous Cowards for Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because anonymity undermines socialism doesn't mean it is bad.

  60. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

    It wouldn't be, but thankfully Trump beat Hillary.

    When the GP said "senile imbecility" I thought Reagan, not Clinton (or Trump.)

    That being said, I tip my hat to both Reagan and Gorbachev for shaking hands and ending the cold war.

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  61. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    The real question does Chelsea use Linux?

    Nah. "vi or emacs?" FTW.

    And a close second is "boxers or briefs?" Oh, wait...

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  62. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but... by bkmoore · · Score: 1
    Why does Manning get so much public attention, and why do we allow Manning to personally profit from this stupid war? IMHO, what Manning did, did not shorten the war in Iraq by one single day, nor did he save one single Iraqi life. All that Manning did do was to disobey a lawful order that he personally disagreed with.

    Why do we continue to elevate Manning above other Iraq- Vets who in many cases were wounded or died actually trying to help the Iraqi people or save Iraqi lives? Why is Manning any better than all the wounded or KIA American service men and women who never will be able to come home or lead a normal life? Or why is Manning better than all the Iraq- Veterans who followed orders, did not commit any war crimes, and did their duty in that place?

    If Manning wants to make a positive difference, maybe rather than running for office, he should volunteer to help wounded veterans in a hospice or a rehab clinic. Maybe he should anonymously donate all the money he receives from his undeserved fame to helping wounded and homeless veterans get the help they need.

    1. Re:Maybe I'm old fashioned, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please, he would just get shot like the American Sniper for being a faggot and a traitor, unlike the American Sniper. You just know he would.

  63. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by gtall · · Score: 2

    He became the swamp; it a Zen thing.

  64. Re: Yet one more mentally ill person joins the swa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was directed at Manning, right?

    So sad that so many people will be going straight to Hell. I can warn you. I can show you proofs in
    our modern age that Christianity is right. In fact, you just did that for me. You attacked a good person
    who said that a bad person shouldn't be in Congress. Thank you for giving me my daily dose of
    evil to remind me that Jesus is the only one who brings good.

    Let all those who have eyes to see, see. Let all those who have ears to hear, hear.

    The rest has been given parables and riddles to hide the obvious from satan's children.

    Have nice day. Beware that bridge that's out up ahead.

  65. Bradley Manning cannot be trusted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    despite BHO pardoning him, he's still a criminal who has shown he cannot be trusted with critical information.

    I'm rather tired of seeing people who are wholly unfit for office making an attempt at the reigns of power. In my mind, all candidates must submit to a series series of background checks to ensure they are eligible. Yes, yes, they may be criminals who have yet to be caught, but lawmakers deserve the extra scrutiny.

    In the case of Bradly Manning, he suffers from gender dysphoria, and therefore is not of sound mind. Sure, this comment will attract the ire of leftist who will embrace the radical crap of "if it's true for you, it's true". I'm firmly of the belief, and so was the psychiatric community until the homosexual lobby begged to them remove it, that homosexuality is mental disorder, and it is. We are now elevating sexual deviancy to the status of normal. Scratch a homosexual and you will almost always find a paedophile. The vast majority of homosexuals were molested or groomed by other homosexuals whilst they were young. This is a fact. The left will vociferously disagree with this because it doesn't fit their agenda that a man inserting his penis into another man's anus is somehow normal and natural. And before anyone states that some animals do it, well... that reduces homosexuals to the level of animals. Sodomy is unnatural, even between a man and a woman. The anus is clearly exit only. Homosexuality denies life because two homosexuals cannot procreate, one of the purposes of the marital union.

    I'm tired of the "normalisation" of homosexuals and transgenderism. I want to ask these trannies if they are now women, what are the chances they will develop breast cancer, or uterine cancer. What are the chances that trannies will develop osteoporosis like actual, biological women? If the answers to these questions is never, then they are not actual women, fake vaginas and breasts notwithstanding.

    1. Re: Bradley Manning cannot be trusted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sodomy unnatural you say? The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't think so. It was only the Jewish and Christian versions of reality which had a problem with it, for reasons which are lost to history. We've had to live with their perversions of sexuality for two thousand years and more and it's way past time they were put to bed, on their own and wearing boxing gloves.

    2. Re: Bradley Manning cannot be trusted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Greeks nor the Romans were paragons of virtue. Both empires fell horribly into lasciviousness and debauchery. Christianity follows the guidelines of God's morality and accountability. You can disagree should you wish, but this does not change the facts. 80% of all homosexual men have some form of STD. Just ask the CDC. The CDC also shows that homosexual sex is extremely dirty and leads to not only STDs, but usually hepatitis. This is not some Christian outcry, it's the facts.

      Until the homosexual lobby attacked the psychiatric community and "lobbied" successfully, unfortunately, to have homosexuality removed as a mental disorder in 1973, everyone but homosexuals understood homosexuality to be morally wrong. Morals are God given, values are man made. Values change, hence the current acceptance of homosexuality as "normal". Homosexual "marriage" is nothing but anal sex dressed up as "civil rights". It's abnormal, and anyone with an ounce of morality and accountability sees it as such.

      Sorry, homosexuality, transgenderism, and all forms of sexual deviancy are just that. No one in power should be promulgating this deviancy. My children will never be force fed the lies of the homosexual lobby. Scratch a homosexual and you will almost always find a paedophile. The vast majority of homosexuals were groomed by other deviants when the were young. Most were either sexually abused by homosexuals themselves or fell in with homosexual "friends". I love my family far too much to allow their minds to be poisoned by these lies. This is one of the reasons my children attend a private school.

    3. Re: Bradley Manning cannot be trusted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realise that heterosexual sex is also quite messy and is also a well-established disease vector, right?

    4. Re: Bradley Manning cannot be trusted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be that as may be, man/female sex is at least normal. Two men or two women is outright abnormal, and anyone with a modicum of common sense will admit this truth. Society has run been running rampant with sexual deviancy for a long time, now culminating in "normalising" homosexuality as something to be cheered on. I will only add this: as a Christian, I don't hate these people, rather, I hate what they are doing. They are "normalising' their deviancy which is dangerous for children. Homosexual lobbies have successfully gotten their "curriculum" into schools around the world. Everyone who can use a decent search engine or who has read psychiatric journals knows that homosexuality is utterly abnormal. Homosexuality is a biological affront to nature, to God's designed order. It violates the Imago Dei like nothing else. This is why God calls it an abomination. A man and woman united in marriage are the standard. The genitals are complimentary and can, short of physical disorder, produce life. Anyone that doesn't suffer from some form of mental disorder groks this as the immutable truth.

      Sloppy sex between normal men and woman can be a vector for disease. This is why monogamous marriage between one man and one woman is the ideal. In 1st Corinthians, it is written that homosexuality is basically a choice, because by dint of rebelling against God in their sinful lust of man on man or woman on woman, without repentance, and turning from the bad lifestyle, God has given them over to a reprobate mind, hence the psychological understanding of homosexuality (before the homosexual lobby had it changed) as a mental disorder. You don't have to even agree with Christianity to understand this is basic common sense.

  66. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tear down this wall!!!!

  67. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chelsea Clinton.

    Lol imagine that.

  68. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    I see your point, but I'm just hoping that sometime, somewhere, there's a third option.

  69. makes sense by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    GOP ran traitors for the WH. Now, the dems run a traitor for the senate.
    When will we stop backing criminals and start supporting honest leaders.

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    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
    1. Re:makes sense by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Manning is filing for candidacy for a Senate seat as a Democrat. That hardly qualifies as the Democrats running a traitor for the Senate. Anyone who satisfies a few basic requirements can run.

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  70. Mental illness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These people need help, instead you celebrate their obvious mental illness. Weimerica.

    1. Re:Mental illness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite right. And, what many people are unaware of is that tolerance for homosexuality was started by two men in Germany, one of which was Ernst Roehm, who went on to lead the brownshirts, the majority of which were homosexuals. Yes, the Nazis killed many homosexuals, but the ones they killed refused to become part of Hitler's death machine. These are facts that anyone can look into. The military and the Catholic priesthood attract more than their fair share of homosexuals. It's estimated that over 50% of Catholic priests are homosexuals. The evidence they have left behind is hard to ignore. Homsexuals cannot wait to get themselves around young, impressionable people and corrupt them. Scratch a homosexual, find a paedophile.

    2. Re:Mental illness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But scratch a heterosexual and you'll never find a kiddy-fiddler, right?

  71. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Fuck Manning! This shit bag dumped intelligence hap hazard very likely causing possible deaths to assets. He/She didn't give a shit about others and it's actions show that. Perhaps that means that he/she would make a very good GOP candidate after all. If on the other hand this was to be Snowden running I could get behind that. He has shown that his efforts were in the best interest of the American people time and again, unlike Manning, FUCK MANNING!

  72. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a masters in clinical psychology. I'm far more educated on the topic than you will ever be, with hundreds of hours of experience with people who suffer from schizophrenia.

    Under no circumstances should you ever validate their hallucinations. We're taught that religiously, and experience has validated that wisdom repeatedly. Only in a few of the most far-left programs are people experimenting with indulging delusions, and convincing patients to mutilate themselves with surgery and hormones.

    You have no idea what you're talking about, and are being manipulated by propaganda.

  73. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only in a few of the most far-left programs are people experimenting with indulging delusions, and convincing patients to mutilate themselves with surgery and hormones.

    (emphasis added)

    Citation, please.

    I'm far more educated on the topic than you will ever be

    Easy to say.
    Your post certainly doesn't demonstrate it.

  74. Reality Check: Manning up against an INCUMBENT. . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . .with an existing organization, links into the party structure at pretty much all levels, and all the advantages of being the sitting Democrat incumbent with a long record in a deep-blue state.

    And Manning brings what, exactly, to the table ???

  75. I heard his psych evaluation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Should have never resulting in him qualifying for secret, nevermind top secret clearance as it was.

    Friend once had a conspiracy theory that Manning had been allowing into the position he had explictly to trigger a leak for the benefit of others. I don't remember specifically who, but possibly as an anti-gay, anti-liberal to help shore up conservativism in the military.

  76. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I thought he was a Russian super spy??

  77. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah great comeback.

  78. Running for office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good for him.

  79. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

    hopefully the filing gets lost...

  80. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    No, Tampax.

  81. It can.... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    call itself whatever it wants, he's still a male. Period.

  82. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

    Umm, if you are referring to the swamp thing that is our current president, he has been most successful at making the swamp more of a swamp then ever. How anyone could have been duped into believing it would be otherwise...

  83. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 0

    Well, correct me here, Moore was impeached as Alabama’s Chief Justice, so kind of convicted there, credibly accused of child molestation, so yes, definitely a criminal.

  84. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've no issue with the statement of education - the grandparent implied a lack of same; it's a fair response. I'm not objecting to the statement about not validating hallucinations. For that portion of the exchange 'citation needed' is pedantic and unnecessary. That's why I quoted and highlighted the portion that I found ... lacking.

    I'm asking for something to back up the heavily loaded description ("evil" in the great-grandparent post and then "mutilation" in the post I replied to) of gender reasssignment surgery and the treatment of those with gender dismorphia and other gender issues.

    You have an education in this field and clearly feel strongly. I'm more than happy to have my mind changed on an issue, but a superior attitude and hand waving aren't going to do that. If you aren't interested in persuading or educating, then why are you posting?

  85. Manning had a chance to serve the US honorably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and failed.

  86. Collateral Murder Was Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are all aware that the so called war crimes evidenced by the Collateral Murder video were edited by Wikileaks from 45 minutes to 17 minutes leaving out any part of the events that would make it look like the helicopter pilot made a correct decision to fire on enemies engaged in combat against US soldiers. Sorry if a reporter got fragged tagging along for photos. Sorry if a guy brought his children along for a support mission in the family mini-van.

    Manning was never a hero standing against excesses by US forces in Iraq. He was a piece of shit then. She is a piece of shit now.

    By all means DNC, try to continue supporting candidates who tick the "first $SJW_venerated_class candidate" check box. You'll be hard pressed to win even 489 counties in the next go around.

  87. Roy Moore? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    How is Roy Moore a criminal?

    Accusations are meaningless without evidence.

    1. Re:Roy Moore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is Roy Moore a criminal?

      The SCOTUS ruled he broke the law TWICE and he was twice removed from office as a result. Criminal.

      He also fraudulently took a million+ dollars in payment from a "charity" he operated, while filing false paperwork with the IRS to cover it up. Tax fraud.

      http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/08/ad_attacks_roy_moores_pay_from.html

  88. Re:What's with all the criminals running for Senat by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    > so yes, definitely a criminal.

    Definitely?

    I don't think being impeached makes you a criminal.

    Accusations without evidence are meaningless.

    Moore's main accuser was caught lying, and forging, and even her step son said she was crazy.

  89. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't blame me, I voted for Bradley!

  90. Manning was convicted of espionage! by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    > the fact she technically violated the law

    This was no trifling technicality.

    If wasn't for the sex change, and our laughably PC culture, Manning would be in prison until the day she died.

  91. Maybe getting genitals cut off is worth it? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    It got of Manning out of a life sentence, now it might get her in congress.

    How else would a criminal, convicted of espionage, with zero political credentials, even be considered?

    Caitlyn Jenner has not done anything since she was Bruce Jenner in 1976. Yet she is considered a major celebrity.

    For a while, it seemed to work for Michael Jackson as well.

    1. Re:Maybe getting genitals cut off is worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bradley, Bruce, and Michael are/were all ridiculous. Michael Jackson will go down in history as the only poor black boy to die a rich white woman. He, at least, had a modicum of talent. The others have done nothing. Being a decent runner is not something to really care about. It's a self-serving goal at best and does nothing for humanity at large. Bradly proved he could not even be true to his own nation. If he was that opposed to war, why even join the Army. And people actually think he's a "good" candidate? Let's not even get talking about Oprah Winfrey being mentioned as presidential material. This country is doomed. Whatever happened to good men like Eisenhower?

  92. Sex identification card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is going to be a spectacular lousy show! Manning's opponent will battered with the sex identification card the whole race immobilizing them. It wont be about Mannings accomplishments (as if there are any...). It will be about sex identification and nothing but. Glass ceiling bullsh!t....

  93. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They replaced all his genetic material with female genetic material?

    Amazing!

    When did that tech get invented?

    Maybe this actually is a Slashdot-worthy article after all. For a while there I was thinking it was just another article about a treasonous bastard with mental issues who tried to get the taxpayers to pay for doctors to surgically mangle him to satisfy his body dysmorphic disorder urges..... but apparently there is some super slick new gene-replacement tech we can all read about.

  94. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a horrible world you live in where everyone accused is guilty without trial.

    Moore is a fucking moron and shitty person, but he has never been to trial for those accusations. Our country, and basic human rights, demand innocence until proven.

    You should be ashamed of yourself. You are no better than those you decry.

  95. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is quite literally mutilation.

    The surgery leaves a gaping, bleeding, pus oozing wound that must be forced open (dilation) for the rest of their lives. They continue to grow pubic hair inside the inverted scrotum, which must be shaved, and the follicles get easily infected. People have died from the infections it causes.

    This is not a vagina. They are not now female. It's hideously unethical, an act of violence, and followed up with years of psychological cruelty where the poor person is lied to and tricked into believing they're now a woman.

    It is objectively evil, if ever there was such a thing. I work with these people daily. I go home crying at least twice a week. It's fucking evil. It's evil.

  96. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Chas · · Score: 1

    Well, Brad would be the only one coming into the Senate that has already "cut the pork"...

    But good luck getting past the felony and treason convictions.

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  97. I look forward to the audit of the funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should prove amusing.

    1. Re:I look forward to the audit of the funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until the criminal filings, when it becomes hilarious.

  98. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You continue to use emotionally loaded terms, refuse to offer anything except opinion and your description of the outcomes of GRS are dishonest - either you are exposed to some of the worst outcomes of some of the poorest techniques (and aren't disclosing the sample bias you are experiencing) or you're reading from a list.

    There are a wide range of corrective surgeries. Many started out quite crudely. Some still have poor outcomes. This does not make them mutilation unless you argue that what they were correcting does not need to be corrected. You can certainly find examples of bad GRS, just as you can find examples of bad corrective surgery for any number of issues. While botched surgery may be mutilation, the surgery itself isn't, unless you can argue that the issue it was intended to correct was unnecessary.

    That's the point you've implied but refuse to state directly and have refused to substantiate.

    Thank you, but this is pointless. You are far too attached to your opinion to realise that it is not as self-evident as you clearly think it is.

  99. The Senate is already full of criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because the government is just a gangster mafia on a grand scale. It forces all of us to pay for "protection" and threatens us with violence if we refuse. For our own good, of course.

    Government = organized crime

  100. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Se by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course we want the stable geniuses

  101. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Despite my adversion to angry sounding rants like your post.... Iâ(TM)m surprised to say that I agree with everything you said.... except .... the Fucking part... no.... just no...

  102. "HE", not "She" by chapstercni · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He can change his name, but not his gender.

    And he isn't one of those very few edge cases. But he is certainly a whacked out head case.

    His actions in the military were abhorrent, and he should still be in prison.

  103. Bradley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His mama name him Bradley, imma call him Bradley.

    1. Re: Bradley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She also gave him fetal alcohol syndrome, so there's some underdevelopment and brain damage to consider too.

  104. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    But good luck getting past the felony and treason convictions.

    If memory serves, a mayor of Washington, D.C., was convicted of crack cocaine possession, but was later reelected as mayor by the "good people" of Washington. I'm too lazy to look this up, so someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    I would never vote for a felon or especially someone who had been convicted of treason, but apparently many others don't feel that constraint.

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  105. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by Chas · · Score: 1

    Yeah looking at it now. Maryland apparently passed something last year allowing felons to run for US senate...

    B.O.H.I.C.A.

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  106. Re: Typo in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've certainly swallowed the propaganda.

  107. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People aren't assets, you spook halfwit

  108. Re:Yet one more mentally ill person joins the swam by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    I'll take her character over Trump's any day.

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    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  109. Ho Hum by herbierobinson · · Score: 1

    Getting registered with the FEC is easy. It doesn't cost anything other than having access to a computer to do the filing with. Actually getting on the ballot is much more difficult (but does depend on the state). Getting people to vote for you is the really hard part.

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    An engineer who ran for Congress. http://herbrobinson.us
  110. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They voted for him for racial reasons, or the ingroup if you prefer.

  111. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still think it's hilarious that you believe Hilary had a chance after her name calling tantrum.

    You voted for an entitled woman-child.
    It's her turn indeed, lol.

    And she lost, get over it, or move to Canada already.

  112. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    "Perhaps that means that he/she would make a very good GOP candidate after all."

    LOL...He is a Democratic candidate. You sound as if there aren't shitbags on both sides.

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    Just another day in Paradise
  113. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Well, Brad would be the only one coming into the Senate that has already "cut the pork"...

    But good luck getting past the felony and treason convictions.

    Weren't those convictions pardoned by Obama? As an opponent, I'd certainly bring them up though.

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    Just another day in Paradise
  114. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With how much the Media keeps pushing their liberal wet-dreams you'd think they have some evidence to back it up.

    I guess standards of reporting have dropped in the last decade or two, and all that's left are some jerkoffs.

  115. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sena by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1

    About 98% of them are shit bags.

  116. Re: What's with all the criminals running for Sen by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1

    Repeating what has been said in the context of this persons story. I totally agree with you that people should not be referred to as assets but this is likely the way Manning thought about them in the context of his/her leak of data.