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Apple's HomePod Speakers Leave White Marks on Wood (bbc.com)

Apple's new smart speakers can discolour wooden surfaces, leaving a white mark where they are placed, the firm has acknowledged. From a report: The US company has suggested that owners may have to re-oil furniture if the HomePod is moved. The device went on sale last week after having been delayed from its original 2017 release date. Apple told Pocket-lint that it was "not unusual" for speakers with silicone bases to leave a "mild mark." But the gadget review site told the BBC it had never seen anything like this problem. The website's founder, Stuart Miles, told the BBC that a speaker left a mark on his kitchen worktop within 20 minutes.

86 comments

  1. Feature, not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is simply the mark of awesomeness and will totally get you laid if chicks see it.

    1. Re:Feature, not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now all the other home speaker makers will rush to implement the same thing.

    2. Re:Feature, not a bug by hey! · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come back to my place and we'll put on some White Stripes.

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    3. Re: Feature, not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Some of them Chinese speakers have been doing that for years, but of course Tim Cock is innovating a unique mark, and the rest are all copycats.

    4. Re:Feature, not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is a feature. Once the speaker is optimized for the room, you will always want to return it to the same position. Apple smart! Users dumb!

    5. Re:Feature, not a bug by tonique · · Score: 1

      They could have made it leave a mark in the shape of the Apple logo. Apple fanbois wouldn't complain!

    6. Re:Feature, not a bug by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      They must be setting it down wrong!

  2. You need the HomePod iCoaster! by Blinkin1200 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only $29.95 at your local Apple store.

    1. Re:You need the HomePod iCoaster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That must be the sale price

    2. Re:You need the HomePod iCoaster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adjust the decimal point one or two times and you got the rose gold plated version of the iStand, made of the best acoustically inert mahogany available that has been carefully nurtured in the deepest, most distant corners of a protected rain forest. Nurtured and protected just for you, dear Apple users!

    3. Re:You need the HomePod iCoaster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could use a third party coaster, but it might diminish the true Apple experience!

    4. Re:You need the HomePod iCoaster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And void your warranty.

  3. DESIGNED to damage. by sehlat · · Score: 1

    Lawsuits starting in 3... 2...

  4. 20 minutes? by Lisandro · · Score: 1

    Do they have an hydrochloric acid reserve or something?

    1. Re:20 minutes? by flightmaker · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, it'll be concentrated Malic acid.

    2. Re: 20 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where can I find this HomoPod?

    3. Re: 20 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iGrind

  5. Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They must be holding the speaker wrong, Apple can not be doing anything wrong.

    1. Re: Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who says wrong, it's a feature. Just like if you throw this trash can HomoPod into a window and break it - the new window design emerges.

    2. Re: Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But will the new window emerge with rounded corners and hissing sound effects? Could someone try this and reply here?

  6. Setting it down wrong by Scarred+Intellect · · Score: 5, Informative

    The users are obviously setting it down wrong.

    1. Re:Setting it down wrong by sinij · · Score: 1

      According TFA, they are not oiling their wood properly.

    2. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm oiling my wood right now.

    3. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did the pod leave white marks on your wood?

    4. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The users are obviously setting it down wrong.

      Informative? Really? Damn you nerds need to find your sense of humor...

    5. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think his wood left white marks on the pod...

    6. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that an apple in your pocket ?

    7. Re:Setting it down wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, they did not oil their wood with iOil, which is the most fabulous and only iAccepted premium Apple oil? Why on earth a real iDiot would not prepare properly the altar for his Apple premium product?

    8. Re:Setting it down wrong by Khyber · · Score: 2

      The funny mod was probably maxed out for that post.

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  7. Here come the excuses by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2

    Tim Cook has released the following statement... The Homepod should be levitated as it was designed to do. Sitting it on any surface will void the warranty and produce unsatisfactory sound.

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    1. Re:Here come the excuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Levitated on the aura of smug created by Jobs spinning in his grave?

  8. sticky problem by kencurry · · Score: 3, Informative

    The speaker has to sit directly on the surface to get good base response. Using a coaster affects listening. So ironically, a glass iBass(@TM- I'm calling dibbs) for $49.99 might be the best solution.

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    1. Re:sticky problem by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      The speaker has to sit directly on the surface to get good base response.

      It think the chemical response from the wood to the base is exactly the problem here.

    2. Re:sticky problem by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm starting to think that apple's secrecy is causing them not to test stuff properly.

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  9. That's not the only "marks on wood" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple users tend to bite when they suck.

  10. It's by design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're using it wrong if you don't want white marks.

  11. iSkidMark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Cook can help.

  12. Suck it hipsters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well the hipsters with there artisanal oiled butcher block counter tops are frothin about this! Good way to piss off your fake user base Apple.

    1. Re:Suck it hipsters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      LOL they think using oil is green compared to poly, but guess what, you have to oil about twice a year. Poly will last 20 years at least.

      As for these homepod things, I bet it's a chemical reaction with the rubber on the oil. I've seen it happen in urethane floors with the rubber carpet padding under old carpet. The rubber leaves visible spots in the wood that do not sand away without taking off nearly an 1/8 inch of wood. In some cases the spots will look darker than the rest of the wood but other times it's the opposite. I've also seen old rubber padding that was the same material as the old red rubber balls every school had in 70s and that stuff actually fuses the floor and petrifies so the only way to remove it is by scraping it off. Good times! /floor sanding contractor //Still a nerd

  13. First world problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this isn't close to the apex of first world problems I don't know what is. Houses so warm they melt your ice cream cone before you finish it?

  14. All the Single Speakers... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    If you like it, you should'a put a ring on it
    If you like it, you should'a put a ring on it

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  15. It makes your table more more valuable by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should make the bottom have the contour of the apple logo. then you could sell it for a profit.

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    1. Re:It makes your table more more valuable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, if you sold it, Apple would sue you for trademark infringement, have the table seized, win a bunch of your money and a public apology in court, and explain to the buyer how you are the bad guy.

  16. It's user error by kelemvor4 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Jizz, improperly cleaned, after apple users masturbate over their new shiny apple product.

  17. An unfinished product by Kokobaby39 · · Score: 1

    Maybe this is the sha of doom. Without the new spray anyway. Perhaps the prob is the dent in the brain that Amazon Echo and the Google product leave by simply moving the damn thing around. Hopefully they won't have to ban/outlaw/rage/can the entire product.

  18. Like Jobs, Tim Cook Has Finally Made A Mark by dryriver · · Score: 2

    On your furniture. It could have been worse. Now oil it, or take your furniture to the nearest and let an Apple genius do it for you for only 149 Dollars.

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  19. Re: Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Did you read the summary, the report mentions that other speakers don't do that. Or is it too painful for you to learn about shabby engineering from Apple?

  20. Steve Has Appeared On My Furniture! by dryriver · · Score: 4, Funny

    If the mark left were shaped like Steve Jobs's visage, Apple users would be jumping for joy around the world. "My God! Steve has appeared in my living room!" The furniture would then be worth 10 times what it was worth before - because Apple users would buy it when sold. What Apple should go for in V 2.0 of the Homepod is leaving more than just a "mark". The Homepod should blast the wood it sits on in pieces, then send you to Apple's iFurniture website for a replacement, which is again blasted to pieces by your Homepod, and so on and so forth. The economics of this gets even more fantastic than you might think, because when the furniture gets blasted to pieces, the Homepod lands on the floor. So you need new furniture AND a new Homepod each time. Homepod V 3.0 may also blast your children to pieces. You can then go to the iChildren website and order robot children made by Apple. Those children will in turn play with the Homepod V 3.0, blasting the furniture, themselves and the Homepod to pieces. You can then go to iEverythingHasGoneToShit website and order replacements. Apple are geniuses.

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  21. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Woodworker here, goombah99 is talking out of his ass. Go ahead and put a heavy piece of plastic on your oiled wood cutting board and see how it won't leave a circle. I find it amusing that some asshole on slashdot can now just lie right through their teeth and be upvoted for it.

  22. You know what this means by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next month Samsung selling speakers with chalk pre-applied to the bottoms.

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    1. Re:You know what this means by dryriver · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia YOU are the chalk applied to the bottom of speakers. =)

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    2. Re:You know what this means by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Apple has ventured into a market that Samsung isn't really interested in. Speakers? Really?

  23. White marks on wood by richrz · · Score: 1

    Usually mean a good time was had.

  24. Racist Feature, not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't leave the browns alone. Gotta get your white all over them.

  25. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    found the retard Apple apologist, there's always at least one

  26. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That has been the pattern here since forever with apple cultists here.

  27. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

    everything leaves a mark on oiled wood

    Bullshit. You do not know what you're talking about. That, or you do and you're lying.

  28. Ibviousky racist by mschuyler · · Score: 3, Funny

    White privilege in action.

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      There's probably some whiny SJW's out there that actually believe you.

  29. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Guess what, everything leaves a mark on oiled wood. Guess what, the nice thing about oiled wood is you can re-oil it and marks go away.

    I assume that you don't own anything with oiled wood if you think that everything marks it. Personally I've never re-oiled any of the nice shiny furniture I have in my house and nothing I place on it seems to leech out the colour either.

    I guess you're too busy staring at pictures to read the bits about no other devices causing the problems, reviewers never having seen similar things, and this specific problem being a material incompatibility with silicone and oil.

    Speaking of. Can we stop making consumer devices with silicon coatings? FFS they attract dirt like all heck, and look feral after a few months.

  30. Apple Logo by sixsixtysix · · Score: 1

    They're doing it wrong if the bottom doesn't have a reverse Apple Logo to leave its mark.

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  31. Re: Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you read the summary, the report mentions that other speakers don't do that. Or is it too painful for you to learn about shabby engineering from Apple?

    But they must, Apple can't be worse than Google or Amazon therefore competing speakers do leave a mark just like Apple's one does.

  32. talking out your wood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Odd, mr. claims-to-be-woodworker, I have lots of oiled wood and my experience everything marks it.

    1. Re:talking out your wood by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      What oil are we talking here? Mineral oil maybe, but BLO shouldn't get marked up by a silicone whatever sitting on it...

  33. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    The polyurethane ring on the bottom of most other speakers don't have that issue. Most grades of silicone will consistently leach a small amount of oil, as compared to urethanes or other polymers. Sounds like a poor choice of materials...

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  34. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by PmanAce · · Score: 1

    "But the HomePod appears to need contact with the surface that it's on to resonate and create the powerful bass."

    Use a coaster you say? I think I'll replace my picture under the "fanboi" definition in the dictionary with yours.

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  35. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You probably are not using a thin food-safe oil but are instead using a cheap linseed oil. Of course you are too stupid to appreciate the difference

  36. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having a stick up your ass doesn't make you a woodworker.

  37. It will also ..... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    Cause your wallet to smoke once you purchase it!

  38. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2

    He's probably just not oiling it right.

  39. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    That's what she said.

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  40. Whitewoodgate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're putting it on the table wrong!

  41. You're holding it wrong by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Errr, I mean "you're placing on the table wrong."

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  42. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by arth1 · · Score: 1

    I assume that you don't own anything with oiled wood if you think that everything marks it. Personally I've never re-oiled any of the nice shiny furniture I have in my house and nothing I place on it seems to leech out the colour either.

    If it's shiny furniture, it's not oiled.
    It could be shellac, but that gets marks even easier, so my bet is that it isn't. Chances are that you have urethane finishes, which do not get stains and stays shiny. But also doesn't get the deep glow.

  43. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    Parent is choke full of lies and misdirection. Apple sockpuppet?

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  44. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

    That and you don't have to sand shellac to get marks out, just a quick wipe with ethanol.

  45. White marks on wood? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Filthy wanker!

  46. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess what, everything leaves a mark on oiled wood. Guess what, the nice thing about oiled wood is you can re-oil

    Hey, you keep telling us to guess what, but then you don't give us a chance to guess. Sheesh man, I don't like this game.

  47. white marks on the wood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Respect the wood.

  48. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    If it's shiny furniture, it's not oiled.

    There's shiny and there's *SHINY*. Oiled wood definitely shines more than many others.

  49. Holding it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're holding it wrong

  50. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woodworker here, goombah99 is talking out of his ass. Go ahead and put a heavy piece of plastic on your oiled wood cutting board and see how it won't leave a circle. I find it amusing that some asshole on slashdot can now just lie right through their teeth and be upvoted for it.

    http://www.echotalk.org/index.php?topic=2014.0

    I am getting circular white marks on my wooden furniture from the Echo Dot. Does anyone else have this problem? What would cause this?

    Answer: bullshit vapors caused by AC experts working their wood with oil.

  51. Re:Oiled wood. end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My father was a professional woodworker by trade and i have always had a thing for the look of oiled wood. My dad hated it as it is time consuming to build.. but anyhow..

    What you have posted is 100% incorrect. My oiled desk doesn't do this, my oiled wall unit doesn't do it, my oiled storage boxes.. well.. you get the picture.
    Perhaps instead of using Urethane, Apple can use a product which inst dissolved in a common finish?

    Then again, you are clearly pro-apple so common sense is out the window.

  52. One word by alfredo · · Score: 1

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