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Manafort Left an Incriminating Paper Trail Because He Couldn't Figure Out How to Convert PDFs to Word Files (slate.com)

There are two types of people in this world: those who know how to convert PDFs into Word documents and those who are indicted for money laundering. Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is the second kind of person , Slate reports. From the report: Back in October, a grand jury indictment charged Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates with a variety of crimes, including conspiring "to defraud the United States." On Thursday, special counsel Robert Mueller filed a new indictment against the pair, substantially expanding the charges. As one former federal prosecutor told the Washington Post, Manafort and Gates' methods appear to have been "extensive and bold and greedy with a capital 'G,' but ... not all that sophisticated." One new detail from the indictment, however, points to just how unsophisticated Manafort seems to have been. Here's the relevant passage from the indictment. I've bolded the most important bits:

Manafort and Gates made numerous false and fraudulent representations to secure the loans. For example, Manafort provided the bank with doctored [profit and loss statements] for [Davis Manafort Inc.] for both 2015 and 2016, overstating its income by millions of dollars. The doctored 2015 DMI P&L submitted to Lender D was the same false statement previously submitted to Lender C, which overstated DMI's income by more than $4 million. The doctored 2016 DMI P&L was inflated by Manafort by more than $3.5 million. To create the false 2016 P&L, on or about October 21, 2016, Manafort emailed Gates a .pdf version of the real 2016 DMI P&L, which showed a loss of more than $600,000. Gates converted that .pdf into a "Word" document so that it could be edited, which Gates sent back to Manafort. Manafort altered that "Word" document by adding more than $3.5 million in income. He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the "Word" document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort. Manafort then sent the falsified 2016 DMI P&L .pdf to Lender D.
So here's the essence of what went wrong for Manafort and Gates, according to Mueller's investigation: Manafort allegedly wanted to falsify his company's income, but he couldn't figure out how to edit the PDF.

189 comments

  1. Nobody said these people were smart... by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

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    1. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by scumdamn · · Score: 5, Funny

      The BEST people! The BEST!

    2. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Sure there are: Ben Carson, Rex Tillerson and Ajit Pai. Note, IQ above room temperature does not preclude insanity, apathy or corruption.

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    3. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by ChrisC1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are the BEST (Barely Educated Slow Thinkers)!

    4. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The few people I know with exceptionally high IQs are absolute assholes. They don't brag about that IQ specifically, but they are elitist as hell.

    5. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The few people I know with exceptionally high IQs are absolute assholes. They don't brag about that IQ specifically, but they are elitist as hell.

      Is that you Jeff? Get over here and wipe my ass!

    6. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Manafort was never in the executive branch, either elected or as an appointee

    7. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And these guys beat your candidate with the entire might of the left behind her. Dwell on that for a bit...

    8. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Don't you have to have an IQ of around 50 to even be able to stand and walk around or something? I think at room temperature IQ they're not really anything more than moaning blobs unable to do anything.

      Or is it one of those Celsius-Fahrenheit-Kelvin things?

    9. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did, the conclusion was that people are stupid. nothing new.

    10. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 0

      The few people I know with exceptionally high IQs are absolute assholes. They don't brag about that IQ specifically, but they are elitist as hell.

      Or, perhaps, they are just that much smarter than you that it comes of as elitist to you.

    11. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know they are, but they aren't my superiors. It's just their general attitude towards life.

    12. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 0

      I know quite a few who aren't. Ie, Mensa preisdnets and such. Sure, some are assholes, but I don't see it as a higher proportion than those wth more average inteligences. Now I'm really smart (and hopefully not an asshole) and I've run across a few people who suprised me by how amazingly smarter they were from me, and all of them were very nice people.

      Being an asshole is a dumb thing to be. It hurts job prospects, promotions, social interaction, relationships, and so forth.

    13. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to specify whether the room temperature is in Celsius, Fahrenheit or Kelvins. :-)

    14. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      That depends on whether you mean celsius or Fahrenheit.

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    15. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by sconeu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To be fair, it seems to me that among all the insanity in the White House, Tillerson is the adult actually *TRYING* to do his job.

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    16. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Democrats (not the left) is very inept. Most political parties are. They played the electoral college game badly, even though they won the majority of the vote, and they didn't campaign in the "sure thing" states (they did fundraise there), etc. The big advantage of Republicans is that they tend to be a bit more organized when it's time for compaigning and they're very effective at getting out the vote. But both are complete screwups at times that regularly shoot themselves in the foot. All of the parties, major or minor, are totally beholden to the most extremist elements who provide most of the fund raising. Don't trust any of them.

      Also remember that this is not a sporting event, it should never be about cheering on your team versus another, so don't take the outcome of an election to prove anything about the quality or righteousness of the candidates. The most any outcome tells you is the quality of the voters.

    17. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by gnick · · Score: 1

      Or, perhaps, they are just that much smarter than you that it comes of as elitist to you.

      Exactly. I'm not conceded. I'm just aware that I'm better than you and realize that your input would be a waste of my time.

      Humility is just one of an endless list of my remarkable qualities.

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    18. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      50 Fahrenheit inside is cold, that means you have to put on a sweater to walk around the house. The common recommendation for thermostats is 68F.

    19. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      IQ of 80 isn't exactly going to impress.

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    20. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. I'm not conceded.

      You may not have conceded yet, but you will...

    21. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by friedman101 · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Room temp in Kelvin, Fahrenheit, or Celsius? Actually, never mind, no to all three.

    22. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops... Damn... I concede.

      -gnick

    23. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      The common recommendation is to use Centigrade.

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    24. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      I know it's a flippant comment, but you can find the answer here

      Basically anyone with an IQ over about 20 can be taught simple tasks and can probably walk, although possibly not well because there are frequently motor control issues and physical deformities.

    25. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every true American must watch this

      Christopher Bollyn: Making Sense of the War on Terror

      It is the most clear, coherent and concise explanation of the "War on Terror" ever created.

      Every American must watch this to understand what has been going on, who and what your countrymen have been fighting for.

      The rest of the world already knows this, that's why they don't like you very much right now.

      Do not call yourself a true American until you've watched it.

      You owe it to yourself, your family, your friends, your countrymen and the world, to learn the truth and spread the words.

      For world peace.

    26. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...I love the poorly educated..." "... the smartest people.." "...the most loyal people..."

    27. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ' I think at room temperature IQ they're not really anything more than moaning blobs unable to do anything.'

      Anything? You mean like converting a PDF?

    28. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Do not call yourself a "True Scotsman" until you've read about this 9/11-truther:

      https://www.adl.org/blog/anti-semitic-911-conspiracy-theorists-thrive-15-years-after-attacks

    29. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      Hey, did YOU make $3 million in 2016? Huh, did you? Didn't think so, Mr. Smarty-Pants!

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    30. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by burtosis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mueller
      Ain't
      Goin'
      Away

    31. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Celsius?

    32. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whiner

    33. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Celsius or Fahrenheit?

    34. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But muh grain stores?

    35. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      True, Steven Hatfill can tell you all about his firsthand experience.

    36. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Archon · · Score: 1

      If someone is smarter/stronger/faster/etc they are your superior by definition. Egalitarianism is a myth.

    37. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't bother their pretty little heads with the facts, they have demonizing to do!

    38. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

      I don't know how to do it either. And you know as well as I do 99.9% of other people don't know how to either.

      Same way I don't know how to rebuild a car motor, or weld, or perform brain surgery, or apply makeup.

      It's called job specialization and it is beneficial to us all for it allows us to excel in a particular area and sell our expertise to the highest bidder.

      Sure Manafort was an idiot for perpetrating the scam, but not knowing how to alter a PDF is not anything for which to criticize anyone.

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    39. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Calories?

    40. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then evolutionarily it is incumbent upon the superiors to kill the inferiors so the superior genes can spread. How does one know if you are superior? If you can kill your inferior you are by definition superior.

      Thank you Slashdot. My neighbor plays loud music at night and I have been looking for a good reason to kill her. You have just given me a scientific rational basis for the murder. You are the best!

      -Warm regards from a superior individual.

    41. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is fine. Actually superior people don't appreciate noise at night. So if a loser troll removes it and then himself (via the criminal justice system) it is win win for us.

    42. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in Metric?

    43. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Farenheit or Centigrade?

    44. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Room temperature IQ ? Celcius or farhenheit ? For the first there is still hope.

    45. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. The competent, law-abiding civil servants that keep the ship of state afloat when the elected and appointed miscreants ate trying their best to run it aground.

    46. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every time I see someone say "every American must watch this," I know bullshit will follow. It's like telegraphing your mental instability in advance.

    47. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Humility is just one of an endless list of my remarkable qualities.

      Good, because grammar skills clearly aren't. "One of a list"??

    48. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Democrats (not the left) is very inept. Most political parties are. They played the electoral college game badly

      Actually I think they strategized very well, at least in terms of doing the things that modern political analysts say you need to do to win an election. The problem is overconfidence in fundraising, polling, etc. blinded them to the most important factor: picking a candidate people actually like and want for office.

      It's a bit like the management gurus who will advise a restaurant group to increase efficiency, diversify their interests, run innovative ad campaigns on social media, etc. but if the food sucks, no one will eat at your restaurant!

    49. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there any Slashdot posters left with an IQ above room temperature?

      Let me explain:
      Manafort was NOT IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH

      you f!#$ing moron!

      Executive Branch ain't the problem. The real problem is:
      1. Fake News
      2. Commie, treasonous Demoncrats
      3. The "Intelligentia" which is totally too stupid to research anything on their own and just parrots fake news CNN.

      But I cannot expect much from someone name "DogDude".

      Signed
      -A GodServingDude

    50. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The common recommendation is to use the system that is simple enough for the common man to understand.

      The degrees in centigrade are too small.
      Fahrenheit has convenient tiers:
      less than 20degF: Better wear 5 layers and carry hand warmers
      20-30 degF: Freezing
      30-40: Cold
      40-50: Chilly
      50-60: Cool
      60-70: Passable to nice
      70-80: Warm
      80-90: HOT
      90-100+: Bloody Hell !!

      Don't get me started on the whole 0 degC = 32 degF, or the 100degC equals 212 degF. As, I said, the COMMON MAN. Common man is too stupid
      to know what 0 degC and 100 degC mean anyhow!

    51. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would in Africa.

    52. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by shilly · · Score: 1

      Your use of degrees is kinda inappropriate in your first sentence because C is larger than F. I knew what you meant but...

      Anyway, for me, F works better for cool to warm, C works better for cool to cold.
      eg
      -20 to -10 C is insanely cold
      -10 to -5 C is absolutely freezing
      - 5 to 0 C is freezing
      0 to 10 C is cold
      10 to 20 C is cool
      Then we switch to F and it reads like your list.

      Many Brits of my vintage think this way. Cultural quirk, I guess

    53. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manafort was fired during the campaign and long before the election.

    54. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by recjhl · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Are you using Fahrenheit or celsius?

    55. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but deg F is always used by US and I haven't seen for years other nationality using deg F.
      While EU and other countries using SI (metric) units would use deg C. In short, deg C is used by majority.

    56. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White supremacist Richard Lynn used flawed methodology and falsified data to arrive at his preconceived racist notions of intelligence. Nobody with at least an average IQ should take anything he has touched as objective fact.

    57. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With celsius, too much of the efective range of 0-100 is wasted on temperatures the human body doesnâ(TM)t enjoy.

    58. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He never worked in the executive branch.

    59. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's OK - he's just not conceded his grammar skills yet...

    60. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Social Darwinism is not a myth then, but egalitarianism is?

      They are both stories, or simplifications of complex non-linear relationships to help us guide our behavior. As such, I like egalitarianism better. A lot better. One story gives us the bill of rights and the other gives us scorched earth and a nuclear winter. You decide, chum!

    61. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by parker9 · · Score: 1

      Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin or Rankine?

    62. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by wv5k · · Score: 1

      Or, perhaps, they are just that much smarter than you that it comes of as elitist to you.

      Exactly. I'm not conceded. I'm just aware that I'm better than you and realize that your input would be a waste of my time.

      Humility is just one of an endless list of my remarkable qualities.

      I think you must have been searching for "conceited" there, no?

    63. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by MercTech · · Score: 1
      When you move inside the beltway; the gestalt stupidity field installed by our alien overlords automatically lowers 50 IQ points.

      Although I'm being snarky; I fully expect this meme to become featured on 4chan soon.

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    64. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ajit Pai? Really?

  2. LibreOffice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Open source could have saved the day for this a-hole. But luckily for the rest of us he's an idiot.

  3. Did he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just changed the extension from .pdf to .doc?

    1. Re:Did he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can he do that?! Those .pdf and .doc extension aren't even displayed on his Windows OS, how can he change those?

  4. Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Zorro · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sees no "Russians" required.

    1. Re:Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Dast · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sees no "Russians" required.

      Who needs Russians when you can work with a Russia-aligned former Ukrainian president. You know, that country that Russia invaded?

      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/politics/paul-manafort-new-charges-mueller.html

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    2. Re:Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are aware that a large part of the crime that they're accused of - and of which Gates is now pleading guilty - involves their work on behalf of a then Russian client state, do you not?

    3. Re:Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That ringing you hear is your own cognitive dissonance. See? No tinnitus required!

  5. trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro?

    1. Re: trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was all before he tried to get in good with Trump

    2. Re:trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro? by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Dude, Microsoft Word has been able to save PDF to DOCX and back for years.

  6. the real story: by Thud457 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft Office is to goddamned complimicated to figure out.

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  7. this is a laughably easy conversion to make by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    step 1: load your word doc
    step 2: After 30-40 futile attempts to download a converter in windows, finish removing the last of your malware and load your converted
    step 3: realize the PDF was converted from a JPG
    step 4: Spend 3 hours on wikipedia learning about OCR and install Cygwin and related packages
    step 5: feed your PDF based on a JPG into your converted
    step 6: realize this is about as productive as feeding a toddler into a wood chipper
    step 7: Wear out the delete key on your keyboard as you manually parse through your newfound unholy amalgam of character recognition and interplanetary gliphs desperately trying to glean a legible document
    step 8: Brew a cup of coffee and give sincere thought to life in Prison.
    step 9: close the 6 tabs you opened for youtube documentaries that have now given you the endurance to stay awake another 4 hours into the night.
    step 10: voila! you now have justification to litter crucial evidence about your misdoings all over the desktop. Finish a lukewarm litre of gin next to the exaust fan of your laptop and get some well earned rest! DOC to PDF is easy as 123!

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    1. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by msmash · · Score: 1

      LOL

    2. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      DOC to PDF is easy as 123!

      (one hundred twenty-three steps)

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    3. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      Edit resulting word doc. Save as PDF.

      It would be laughable except I do it every friggin day. One of our vendors sends his invoices as jpg's snapped from His phone.

      I convert to PDF save as word, clean up the data, as as shiny PDF before forwarding to idiots I mean AP

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    4. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope - 123 factorial. Otherwise knows as 123 * 122 *121 *120 ... * 3 * 2 *1

    5. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      No.

      Lotus 1-2-3

    6. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by tomhath · · Score: 0, Troll

      Their mistake wasn't using Word/PDF, their mistake was that they left an electronic paper trail by exchanging emails of their fraud.

      Pretty much the same thing that brought down Hillary.

    7. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Worst I ever saw was something that was originally in Word, printed on an inkjet and then faxed to us.

      The problem is that it didn't stop there. Our secretary had the job of keeping digital copies of what the fax received, and she "saved space" by saving the received faxes in medium-quality JPEGs.

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    8. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 3, Funny

      I just tried this in Adobe and it wouldn't even load the PDF. I was using Adobe Audition 10, do I need 11?

    9. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this beats StarOffice being written in German, thus confusing US computers, but it seems to come close!

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    10. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      If you're planing to use it to commit fraud to the tune of several million dollars you may as well pirate the software.

    11. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      He meant Acrobat of course.

    12. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by gander666 · · Score: 1

      *dead* Especially the bit about open source OCR.

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    13. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiots who think Microsoft and Adobe are programs, and not the companies that make them.

    14. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone involved was a moron. Set up a virtual fax on the print server, point the incoming fax line to it. Configure the virtual fax to do whatever you want. Done. Fully automated forever. Has been around for 20 years.

    15. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or one step if you just use a website that does it for you

    16. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      realize that only fucking morons like yourself find this drivel "funny". Load that into your converted.

    17. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Kjella · · Score: 1

      step 6: realize this is about as productive as feeding a toddler into a wood chipper

      *turns on recording device*

      Tell me, what experience do you have that makes you say that?

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    18. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about don't falsify income statements....

    19. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The WTF is why are they printing and faxing a document they already have in electronic form?

    20. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be laughable since you're too ignorant to realize that all of your docs
      in Adobe end up in "The Cloud" nowadays.

      Do you really want leave a vapour trail?

    21. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We asked our client to send us his logo, which we know was made in Illustrator because we know the designer. But the boss asked his designer to send it as a JPEG... There was facepalm on both sides.

    22. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      If you're planing to use it to commit fraud to the tune of several million dollars you may as well pirate the software.

      So, you're suggesting that he should have risked the ire of the IRS *and* the BSA? I mean, one or the other you might be able to fend off, but both?!

    23. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Some retarded banks and insurance companies still require faxes of legal documents because - signatures. They can't understand/deal with electronic documents that have an electronic signature in them.

    24. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So true, good job, you missed a few steps.

    25. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      ... the well-known work-a-like of As-Easy-As.

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  8. Right click, by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    Open with -> Word

    1. Re:Right click, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Underappreciated comment.

    2. Re:Right click, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just tried that on something, it... didn't work well.

    3. Re:Right click, by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

      Not if the pdf is based on a image (ie. pdf)

    4. Re:Right click, by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Acrobat has built-in OCR features IIRC.

    5. Re:Right click, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it Obama's birth certificate by any chance?

    6. Re:Right click, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Acrobat has built-in OCR features IIRC.

      But most people open a PDF with Acrobat Reader which does not have that feature. You have to pay for the product to get that feature. Anyway, the OCR is NOT perfect and seems to give you some weird characters/layout (especially later version).

    7. Re:Right click, by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

      The guy recommend opening in Word. I know my version of Word doesn't have OCR. You can open a PDF but if it is image based, Word will display the document as an image.

    8. Re: Right click, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy was laundering and hiding millions of dollars. He could afford Acrobat.

  9. Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by sehlat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least the toddler-in-chief didn't hire SMART criminals.

    1. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, the smart criminals are using the dumb criminals to absorb all the vitriol, news attention, law enforcement and special council resources.

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    2. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup.

      They got all the rope they need. Hopefully the country isn't too damaged by the time this all washes through.

      Feels like it's too late already. These are the symptoms, not the disease.

    3. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Yea. If they were smart they would have run their own email server out of their bathroom.

    4. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or fall for a simple phishing scam and let hackers see all the DNC dirty laundry stored in you email account...or meet with a former president on the tarmac while you are investigating his wife...or store tons of classified documents on your pervert husband's laptop right before the FBI seizes it...or....

    5. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      toddler-in-chief

      Can we get some better insults, please?

    6. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if you're familiar with Paul Manafort or what he's been involved with, but what you're suggesting is akin to Trump using Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand as a patsy. I'm not saying that isn't what happening, just that if it is, maybe Trump isn't quite as dumb as people have been making him out to be.

  10. the real idiot here is you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft Office is to goddamned complimicated to figure out.

    Manafort had no trouble producing falsified documents with Word, but you can't even work a browser text box without issues.

  11. Does he need it? by Teun · · Score: 1

    I doubt he needs this skill where he's going.

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  12. This is How Stupid People Fail. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fear the intelligent evil people. The stupid ones do this kind of stuff.

    Even Ross Ulbricht (Sik Road pioneer and jail bird) got caught in part because he asked about a techy problem on on a techy forum using his own name, while developing the code.

    When I consider how to get away with crimes, the primary thing is working out how to break any link between yourself and your actions and between yourself and the victims. The secondary thing is to leave no trace in your personal effects. My legit job seems like a far better deal though.

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    1. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea- the most capable and able to break the system without getting caught up in it tend to be better off simply complying to one degree or another (since nobody can truly comply) and setting up semi-legit operations (ie there is nothing you can do to make money that is entirely legitimate because working is a crime everywhere- even if it is only selectively enforced) to produce something people are willing to voluntarily fund.

    2. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parallel construction. In all likelihood, he was caught because the NSA was looking for him, and he used a compromised TOR exit node.
      No the Sig Int community is not supposed to be catching criminals, but they do - and silkroad was about as big a target as they come.

    3. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      When I consider how to get away with crimes... My legit job seems like a far better deal though.

      If not for the fact that you are using 'words' and not Twitter, I would have been sure that you were Trump.

    4. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Whorhay · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think about this kind of thing anytime I read about a crime committed for profit. I could see it maybe being worth the effort and associated risk if the payoff was never having to work again. But most of the time people are committing crimes over what amounts to paltry sums of money. In 2006 the average bank robbery in the US only got about $4300, and the numbers are even worse for other types of robberies. If I wanted to get any where close to what I'd consider a tolerable living I'd have to rob a bank every month. And even with the FBI only ID'ing 50% of bank robbers the odds of getting caught just aren't worth it by any stretch.

      Even if you got away with a massive haul of money the question then becomes how do you make it useful without getting caught. There is a reason organized crime always gets into money laundering. They end up with so much cash they can't legally explain earning, that they end up spending large parts of it cleaning the cash.

    5. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do get a massive haul of money, you then basically have to decide to leave your current life forever. Goodbye parents, kids, friends, local food, etc. Basically leave your current country and go somewhere safer for you to live out rich, but starting over. If you can 1.) pull off the big crime successfully 2.) leave everything behind and never return 3.) live with yourself after the fact then you will succeed.

      But most are like like the armored car guy that gets away with $18 million, escapes to Mexico, but then gets caught re-entering the US at the border. He'll get out in 2022.

    6. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Megol · · Score: 2

      It's all out in the open. Ross didn't fuck up only once he did it once and then again and then again...

      Then he got caught with his notebook computer (used in a public space!) open with and logged in as administrator. Stupid.

      And then he was given the chance, even encouraged, to take ownership of the server in order to argue for its exclusion as evidence. This wouldn't be a disadvantage in the real trial either - as explained by the court and his lawyers. Stupid. Potentially lifetime before freedom stupid.

      He also documented his crimes in a diary and had fantasies of books being written about him. Extremely stupid.

      No he got caught because he is an arrogant bastard and being a complete idiot. FFS he even was the first to promote the site and this in a way that could be directly linked to himself!

    7. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by ckatko · · Score: 0

      >Ross Ulbricht

      You mean the guy they gave immunity to, or the guy they gave immunity to? You forgot the one important thing, none of them ever go to jail.

      And if Hill-dog did nothing wrong (God, we're still talking about it...), why did everyone around her get immunity deals?

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/...

      http://www.washingtonexaminer....

      https://www.politico.com/story...

    8. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      A big problem in my mind is what country to abscond to with so much cash? You need to first get the money there, cash gets pretty heavy and bulky when you start talking about hundreds of thousands and up. Then you need to get the money into a bank that isn't going to care where it came from. In a lot of countries even getting that money into a bank isn't going to keep it safe, let alone your person. Much of Central and South America is the territory of cartels that have diversified into kidnapping, for example.

      In many respects it's just easier and safer to work a job, or series of jobs, for 40 years. Save 10-20% of your earnings in a market indexed retirement fund and you'll probably be safe from eating dog food in your old age. At least that is what I keep telling myself.

  13. That close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I'm sure if he only know how to edit a PDF he'd have committed the perfect crime.

  14. Misleading headline by dysmal · · Score: 1

    FTFA: He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the “Word” document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort.

    His issue is he didn't know how to convert .doc to .pdf.

    1. Re:Misleading headline by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      FTFA: He first sent the original PDF to Gates to convert it to a .doc in the first place.

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  15. So.. how would one do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Asking for a friend

  16. Should have hired a teenager or other by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two possible ways to go here:

    1) Hire teenager, who for dirt cheap has the time to sail the rocky shoals of PDF and DOC standards to do what you want, is way too disorganized for investigators to find anything. Cost: $200 and a few illegal beer runs. Downside: May take several passes to correct grammar.

    2) Hire Russian (to be more specific, Ukrainian) hacker to simply re-work the original PDF Postscript into what you want. When the investigators come knocking do you think they will be able to find the Russian hacker to get original documents? No. Cost: $50k, delivered in ETH please, and dead drops of USB sticks in place of meetings. Downside: All USB sticks you get back will be laden with latest viruses that will track you while you shower.

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  17. So... what's the best sex doll? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Also asking for a friend.

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  18. hire personal it personal assistant is a must by mevanchik1695 · · Score: 1

    if your in politics or any dirty work. But i wonder if there was such a person, and he did the conversion, would he also be liable in this case, if not the one blamed fully?

  19. Smart people don't use Microsoft by mi · · Score: 3

    Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

    Neither of these two people have worked for the US Executive branch.

    But, according to TFA, Gates would've passed the "Can you convert PDF to MS Word" test, which you consider so vitally important to determining one's intelligence.

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  20. this mueller that trump hired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tell us more about what you think about the people trump hires

    apparently you agree that trump can only hire idiots

  21. Not ONE post on Hillary's illegal email server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But as soon as they can get a TRRURUUMMMPPPP! story talking about PDF's... that's a newsworthy tech story
    :rollseyes:

    1. Re:Not ONE post on Hillary's illegal email server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But as soon as they can get a TRRURUUMMMPPPP! story talking about PDF's..."

      People who don't read, don't need PDFs nor Word.

  22. Double-Entry Bookkeeping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That is why you keep two sets of books. One for the tax man, showing a loss. And one for the banks, showing a profit.

    That's why it's called double-entry bookkeeping.

    1. Re:Double-Entry Bookkeeping by funky49 · · Score: 1

      Excellent trolling/joking! Terrible accounting.

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  23. Surrounded with people who abuse and accept abuse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Links about Trump from 18 different organizations

  24. I donâ(TM)t know how either. by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Iâ(TM)m not slow. Indeed itâ(TM)s not a useful skill for one in a million people to have. So how does one do this?

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    1. Re:I donâ(TM)t know how either. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://appleinsider.com/articl... turn off smart quotes, please

    2. Re:I donâ(TM)t know how either. by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Iâ(TM)m not slow. Indeed itâ(TM)s not a useful skill for one in a million people to have. So how does one do this?

      you are correct:
      This is a skill the majority of computer users do not need, and thus don't know how...

      There is the concept of covering your tracks carefully, however, if planning on commission of a crime. My suggestion on "how to" is to simply buy acrobat professional for a few hundred dollars (if it's even available stand alone anymore?) if you're not computer savvy, this way you can edit PDFs to you hearts delight. This is an idea that simply googling "editing PDFs" would turn up, so... yeah, the guy that got busted didn't even do basic due diligence.

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    3. Re: I donâ(TM)t know how either. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean turn off the not-too-smart quotes.

  25. If only they had used hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only they had used APK's hosts file engine then they wouldn't have gotten caught.

  26. dumb as a rock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you deserve to be locked away in prison if you really believe that you can trust your secrets to some clown you found on craigslist

    1. Re:dumb as a rock by burtosis · · Score: 1

      How about if they are only a part time clown and are working on passing the CPA exam? Asking for a friend.

  27. Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait for the tweets..."Sad, no real evidence"...bleh

    1. Re:Fake news by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No real evidence of Russian Collusion by the Trump campaign....

      Which was the basis for the Special Prosecutor.

      No one seems to care how far off the rails this investigation is going...

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    2. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Off the rails or--target-rich environment. Your call.

    3. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you know this how? Because no charges have been brought yet? Or Robert Mueller told you that he has no evidence?

    4. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plenty of evidence of Clinton Russia collusion, but for some reason that seems to be fine by Muller.

      His investigation is a joke. FBI tells Congress Flynn didn't lie to FBI, Muller charges Flynn of lying to FBI and withholds the evidence of the FBI saying different. Refuses to acknowledge Clinton colluded with Russia. Charges Russians with "mail fraud" and "identity theft". What? No charges of interfering with an election from them?

    5. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      FFS, can you for once get off the "no collusion", " but what about her emails", "obama is a muslim" train and see that these are the people that YOUR president dealt with on a daily basis, hired, and defended on his campaign and presidency? The fact that there is an investigation where two people have pleaded guilty to Federal crimes in which they were dealing with Russian entities doesn't bother you one bit because you are too busy being a trumpkin apologist dosn't bother you one bit?

      We KNOW how far off the rails this investigation is going and we are glad it is seeping into every direction it needs to go to weed out all these corrupt people in the white house and beyond. But wait you don't care...political party before country. Yes, I see how you voted. nice try.

    6. Re:Fake news by burtosis · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's all parallel construction by the NSA from his comments about getting rid of the deep state and limiting the spy agencies power. I think no one cares because we all realize we lost control of this country long ago.

    7. Re:Fake news by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

      Aside from top Trump campaign officials being caught meeting a Russian government agent, then denying having met, and when faced with clear evidence one person present admitting that they were there to be given dirt on the opponent - but still insisting it doesn't count because the dirt was poor.

    8. Re:Fake news by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Yup, target rich environment. Well, target rich for the IG. Which is why a shitload of the people involved in the investigation are being demoted, reassigned, or outright quitting.

    9. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted for Reagan at 18 and have not been happy with what has been done to this country the past 30 years, so really, Trump was the only sane option, given him or Clinton.

      For those who weren't around for Reagan, Trump is Reagan II more or less and the same crap is happening. A growing segment of the population does not believe a right-of-center person has a right to affect policy, and they will continue to act in accordance with that belief.

    10. Re:Fake news by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1

      For reasons other than collusion ....

      This is just a fishing expedition, designed to remove an elected president. Russians would be proud.

      Using biased FBI civil servants. All documented Dems except ONE.

      Using FAKE FISA warrants obtained using a collection of FAKE data bought by Hillary. Lied to a judge to get that "insurance policy" going.

      Meanwhile Comey signs off on those warrants (illegally) and laughs .... the Russians are very happy.

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    11. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just a fishing expedition, designed to remove an elected president.

      Right, which is something Republicans would never do.

  28. Re:This Muller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reply is a neutral response to the above.

  29. There was more by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    There was a lot more, but this is what is being used for charging evidence.

    Oh, and, yes, we still have your cloud data.

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  30. Trump: I will surround myself... by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

    with the best of the best!

    Translation: I will surround myself with ninnies and nincompoops!!!!

    1. Re:Trump: I will surround myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ninniecompoops!

  31. Nonsensical claim about converting PDF to World by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    It's retaining distinct copies of a document before, and after, adding fraudulent content that trapped the man. Simply discarding previous, fraudulent versions of the document would have cleared the paper trail. Worse for careless criminals: Word documents normally retain some local history of changes on the author's computer, and are far more dangerous in terms of tracking when someone added fraudulent content. PDF is _much_ safer.

    PDF is not as user-familiar, and the better What You See is What You Get editors for it do cost money. But the idea that a criminal is making themselves more vulnerable because they work in PDF, not World, is foolish indeed.

  32. Please go back to reddit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop polluting this site with your American propaganda. Not everyone is a Clinton voter or even lives in US and cares about your silly little feuds with Russia.

    STFU and leave.

    1. Re:Please go back to reddit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, some of you are Russian trolls. Will you fuckers shut up already? You're getting worse at this, between those who forget to turn of location tracking on Twitter, those who say things like "Over 140 million of us support Trump!" (that's a real quote I saw on Disqus - for those failing to get the reference, 144 million is the population of Russia), and, of course, you pretending there are non-Americans who like Trump and are unconcerned about an already unstable country becoming the puppet of a dictator hostile to Europe and the US.

      Go away. You're really obvious, all you're doing is making Russia look even worse.

  33. Just going to throw this out there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would have never happened in a world without closed, proprietary file formats.

  34. This is great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So Hillary must be smart with all the Bleachbit software, she's a friggin genius!

  35. Headline wrong... by kenh · · Score: 1

    Manafort altered that "Word" document by adding more than $3.5 million in income. He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the "Word" document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort.

    Manafort didn't know how to turn a word document into a PDF, not the reverse as the headline claims.

    Seriously, don't the editors even read the submissions?

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    1. Re:Headline wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To clarify, Manafort didn't know how to edit the PDF or turn it into Word to edit it, so he sent it to Gates to do it. That was his mistake, because it left an e-mail trail. He didn't know how to do the conversion in either direction.

      The headline is definitely confusing as written.

  36. As a general rule... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the sort of people who go into politics (in ALL parties) are the sort whose primary skills are glad-handing, hand shaking, slick-talking, and convincing any audience that they are being listened to and their issues will be addressed. Nowhere in that list of qualifications are [a] morality, [b] ethics, [c] competence at ANY other human endeavor.

    Manafort was a Republican establishment tool who was pushed onto the Trump team at the demand of the establishment sort as Trump was closing in on the nomination. Happily (for Trump) the man Trump never wanted in the first place turned out to be such a currupt swamp dweller than Trump was able to rapidly dump him and the very establishment types who had wanted him were left with no arguments for why he should not be drop-kicked.

    These political hacks are all so dishonest and incompetent that they all accept each others's cliams of incompetence automatically and without consideration of whether the claims are to be believed or not, or of whether they should carry any penalty. Remember Hillary and her servers and "with a cloth?" comment? It's a beltway uni-party thing.

    Do ANY of us TRULY want these sorts of people writng the rules for how any of use use tech? I personally want the government, including its politicians and their minions, to keep its mittens off of my activities as much as possible, and that goes for Manafort, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, John (spearfished) Podesta, Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney, Bernie Sanders, etc.

  37. STOP! Please, just STOP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not tell the stupid-evil-and-corrupt political class and their crony friends how to better deceive the public!

    egads! It's bad enough that half the people in the previous Administration were using email aliases to do their work so it would be impossible for the public to file FOIA requests to see what was going on (that includes both of Obama's AGs, the IRS officials using their agency to fight the TEA Party, several cabinet members, and Obama himself).

    We're all better off, and corruption is easier to expose and fight and prosecute if the world's technically-competent people STOP telling all the minions and cronies who enable all the poltiticians how things actually work and how to better use them to hide corruption.

    What's the matter with you???? I bet you even answer poltical polls, thinking this is a way for you to have a voice, when in reality all those polls actually do is help the politicians figure out better ways to lie to the public and manipulate voters. Your voice is only in the polling place on election day.

  38. Re:This Muller by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Dah Comrade. Sing it! Earn your rubles.

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  39. FFS, read your own post by tomhath · · Score: 1

    First, none of these people ever worked in the White House or as part of the Executive Branch. They were campaign staff who were fired by Trump when he lost confidence in them.

    Second, without the collusion angle there is no reason for a special prosecutor.

    Third, where did "obama is a muslim" come from?

    1. Re:FFS, read your own post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, it seems irrelevant if they worked for the White House as confidence was lost only when they were exposed, not because Trump thought they were unreliable.

      Second, Without the firing of Comey as an intentional means to stop the FBI from investigating potential crimes, there would be no special prosecutor. However, the investigations and details would have still come up in the ongoing FBI investigation.

      Third - Nice try pretending like you don't know.

    2. Re:FFS, read your own post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Michael Flynn was National Security Advisor. He even had an office in the west wing.

      He most emphatically 'worked in the White House'.

  40. Nothing to do with Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just sayin.

  41. Never heard of it. by westlake · · Score: 1

    Open source could have saved the day for this a-hole. But luckily for the rest of us he's an idiot.

    How often do you think these guys do their own paper work? If it s legitimate, it goes through their clerical staff and all they ever see is a working draft for mark-up or the end product.

  42. The Adobe Acrobat Pro ads just write themselves by Steve1952 · · Score: 1

    Scene: Home office, Manafort look-alike is typing on his computer. "Now how do I alter this spreadsheet? -- Gates will know". Overhead shot lets us see him starting to type an email. Cut to Mueller look-alike in a large office with an FBI logo on the wall. He is giving a high-five to other individuals wearing dark suits and sunglasses. Cut to Putin look-alike, saying "Need to alter a pdf? Get Adobe Acrobat Pro!"

  43. What version of Word was he using?! by ssufficool · · Score: 1

    Word 2013+ has built-in export PDF (Save As). Word 2016 opens PDF files for editing. Albeit the editing part is not entirely 100%.

  44. WRONG. that is not how it works by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    You investigate and the guilty act guilty and run in a panic to cover everything up. More conspiracies form if they didn't already exist. The new mess of new crimes all has to be unraveled in the process. A minor rule violation or lesser crime involved in the primary investigation ends up as a huge distraction in the pursuit of the thing being investigated. GUILTY people do this and also innocent people who freak out over side issues that might come into view (could be as simple as attempting to hide an affair being disclosed which is completely unrelated to the investigation...)

    It is not wrong to end up finding nothing went wrong or minor crimes instead of the primary purpose for the investigation but when everybody runs around in a panic and crimes are committed to PREVENT the investigation it is guilty and illegal as hell. Nobody knows if all that illegal activity is to obstruction of justice or simply unrelated or minor cover ups of tangential secrets. It's not like a warrant limiting a search, what they find can be referred for prosecution... it's an extremely powerful tool to dig at the truth. A jay walking stooge wanting to avoid a ticket could trade it for some useful information... It's how they take down organized crime, etc.

  45. Poppler-utils or soffice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh that's right. Never mind. Those dumb asses are Micro$oft users.