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Manafort Left an Incriminating Paper Trail Because He Couldn't Figure Out How to Convert PDFs to Word Files (slate.com)

There are two types of people in this world: those who know how to convert PDFs into Word documents and those who are indicted for money laundering. Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is the second kind of person , Slate reports. From the report: Back in October, a grand jury indictment charged Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates with a variety of crimes, including conspiring "to defraud the United States." On Thursday, special counsel Robert Mueller filed a new indictment against the pair, substantially expanding the charges. As one former federal prosecutor told the Washington Post, Manafort and Gates' methods appear to have been "extensive and bold and greedy with a capital 'G,' but ... not all that sophisticated." One new detail from the indictment, however, points to just how unsophisticated Manafort seems to have been. Here's the relevant passage from the indictment. I've bolded the most important bits:

Manafort and Gates made numerous false and fraudulent representations to secure the loans. For example, Manafort provided the bank with doctored [profit and loss statements] for [Davis Manafort Inc.] for both 2015 and 2016, overstating its income by millions of dollars. The doctored 2015 DMI P&L submitted to Lender D was the same false statement previously submitted to Lender C, which overstated DMI's income by more than $4 million. The doctored 2016 DMI P&L was inflated by Manafort by more than $3.5 million. To create the false 2016 P&L, on or about October 21, 2016, Manafort emailed Gates a .pdf version of the real 2016 DMI P&L, which showed a loss of more than $600,000. Gates converted that .pdf into a "Word" document so that it could be edited, which Gates sent back to Manafort. Manafort altered that "Word" document by adding more than $3.5 million in income. He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the "Word" document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort. Manafort then sent the falsified 2016 DMI P&L .pdf to Lender D.
So here's the essence of what went wrong for Manafort and Gates, according to Mueller's investigation: Manafort allegedly wanted to falsify his company's income, but he couldn't figure out how to edit the PDF.

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  1. Nobody said these people were smart... by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

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    1. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by scumdamn · · Score: 5, Funny

      The BEST people! The BEST!

    2. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Sure there are: Ben Carson, Rex Tillerson and Ajit Pai. Note, IQ above room temperature does not preclude insanity, apathy or corruption.

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    3. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by ChrisC1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are the BEST (Barely Educated Slow Thinkers)!

    4. Re: Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Manafort was never in the executive branch, either elected or as an appointee

    5. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Don't you have to have an IQ of around 50 to even be able to stand and walk around or something? I think at room temperature IQ they're not really anything more than moaning blobs unable to do anything.

      Or is it one of those Celsius-Fahrenheit-Kelvin things?

    6. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      That depends on whether you mean celsius or Fahrenheit.

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    7. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by sconeu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To be fair, it seems to me that among all the insanity in the White House, Tillerson is the adult actually *TRYING* to do his job.

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    8. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Democrats (not the left) is very inept. Most political parties are. They played the electoral college game badly, even though they won the majority of the vote, and they didn't campaign in the "sure thing" states (they did fundraise there), etc. The big advantage of Republicans is that they tend to be a bit more organized when it's time for compaigning and they're very effective at getting out the vote. But both are complete screwups at times that regularly shoot themselves in the foot. All of the parties, major or minor, are totally beholden to the most extremist elements who provide most of the fund raising. Don't trust any of them.

      Also remember that this is not a sporting event, it should never be about cheering on your team versus another, so don't take the outcome of an election to prove anything about the quality or righteousness of the candidates. The most any outcome tells you is the quality of the voters.

    9. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by gnick · · Score: 1

      Or, perhaps, they are just that much smarter than you that it comes of as elitist to you.

      Exactly. I'm not conceded. I'm just aware that I'm better than you and realize that your input would be a waste of my time.

      Humility is just one of an endless list of my remarkable qualities.

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    10. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      50 Fahrenheit inside is cold, that means you have to put on a sweater to walk around the house. The common recommendation for thermostats is 68F.

    11. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      IQ of 80 isn't exactly going to impress.

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    12. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by friedman101 · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Room temp in Kelvin, Fahrenheit, or Celsius? Actually, never mind, no to all three.

    13. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      The common recommendation is to use Centigrade.

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    14. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      I know it's a flippant comment, but you can find the answer here

      Basically anyone with an IQ over about 20 can be taught simple tasks and can probably walk, although possibly not well because there are frequently motor control issues and physical deformities.

    15. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Do not call yourself a "True Scotsman" until you've read about this 9/11-truther:

      https://www.adl.org/blog/anti-semitic-911-conspiracy-theorists-thrive-15-years-after-attacks

    16. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      Hey, did YOU make $3 million in 2016? Huh, did you? Didn't think so, Mr. Smarty-Pants!

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    17. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by burtosis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mueller
      Ain't
      Goin'
      Away

    18. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Celsius?

    19. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      True, Steven Hatfill can tell you all about his firsthand experience.

    20. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Archon · · Score: 1

      If someone is smarter/stronger/faster/etc they are your superior by definition. Egalitarianism is a myth.

    21. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

      I don't know how to do it either. And you know as well as I do 99.9% of other people don't know how to either.

      Same way I don't know how to rebuild a car motor, or weld, or perform brain surgery, or apply makeup.

      It's called job specialization and it is beneficial to us all for it allows us to excel in a particular area and sell our expertise to the highest bidder.

      Sure Manafort was an idiot for perpetrating the scam, but not knowing how to alter a PDF is not anything for which to criticize anyone.

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    22. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Calories?

    23. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every time I see someone say "every American must watch this," I know bullshit will follow. It's like telegraphing your mental instability in advance.

    24. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by shilly · · Score: 1

      Your use of degrees is kinda inappropriate in your first sentence because C is larger than F. I knew what you meant but...

      Anyway, for me, F works better for cool to warm, C works better for cool to cold.
      eg
      -20 to -10 C is insanely cold
      -10 to -5 C is absolutely freezing
      - 5 to 0 C is freezing
      0 to 10 C is cold
      10 to 20 C is cool
      Then we switch to F and it reads like your list.

      Many Brits of my vintage think this way. Cultural quirk, I guess

    25. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by recjhl · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

      Are you using Fahrenheit or celsius?

    26. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by parker9 · · Score: 1

      Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin or Rankine?

    27. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by wv5k · · Score: 1

      Or, perhaps, they are just that much smarter than you that it comes of as elitist to you.

      Exactly. I'm not conceded. I'm just aware that I'm better than you and realize that your input would be a waste of my time.

      Humility is just one of an endless list of my remarkable qualities.

      I think you must have been searching for "conceited" there, no?

    28. Re:Nobody said these people were smart... by MercTech · · Score: 1
      When you move inside the beltway; the gestalt stupidity field installed by our alien overlords automatically lowers 50 IQ points.

      Although I'm being snarky; I fully expect this meme to become featured on 4chan soon.

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  2. LibreOffice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Open source could have saved the day for this a-hole. But luckily for the rest of us he's an idiot.

  3. trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro?

    1. Re:trump can't pay $200 /year for adobe pro? by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Dude, Microsoft Word has been able to save PDF to DOCX and back for years.

  4. the real story: by Thud457 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft Office is to goddamned complimicated to figure out.

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  5. this is a laughably easy conversion to make by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    step 1: load your word doc
    step 2: After 30-40 futile attempts to download a converter in windows, finish removing the last of your malware and load your converted
    step 3: realize the PDF was converted from a JPG
    step 4: Spend 3 hours on wikipedia learning about OCR and install Cygwin and related packages
    step 5: feed your PDF based on a JPG into your converted
    step 6: realize this is about as productive as feeding a toddler into a wood chipper
    step 7: Wear out the delete key on your keyboard as you manually parse through your newfound unholy amalgam of character recognition and interplanetary gliphs desperately trying to glean a legible document
    step 8: Brew a cup of coffee and give sincere thought to life in Prison.
    step 9: close the 6 tabs you opened for youtube documentaries that have now given you the endurance to stay awake another 4 hours into the night.
    step 10: voila! you now have justification to litter crucial evidence about your misdoings all over the desktop. Finish a lukewarm litre of gin next to the exaust fan of your laptop and get some well earned rest! DOC to PDF is easy as 123!

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    1. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by msmash · · Score: 1

      LOL

    2. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      DOC to PDF is easy as 123!

      (one hundred twenty-three steps)

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    3. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      Edit resulting word doc. Save as PDF.

      It would be laughable except I do it every friggin day. One of our vendors sends his invoices as jpg's snapped from His phone.

      I convert to PDF save as word, clean up the data, as as shiny PDF before forwarding to idiots I mean AP

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    4. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      No.

      Lotus 1-2-3

    5. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Worst I ever saw was something that was originally in Word, printed on an inkjet and then faxed to us.

      The problem is that it didn't stop there. Our secretary had the job of keeping digital copies of what the fax received, and she "saved space" by saving the received faxes in medium-quality JPEGs.

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    6. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 3, Funny

      I just tried this in Adobe and it wouldn't even load the PDF. I was using Adobe Audition 10, do I need 11?

    7. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this beats StarOffice being written in German, thus confusing US computers, but it seems to come close!

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    8. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      If you're planing to use it to commit fraud to the tune of several million dollars you may as well pirate the software.

    9. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      He meant Acrobat of course.

    10. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by gander666 · · Score: 1

      *dead* Especially the bit about open source OCR.

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    11. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Kjella · · Score: 1

      step 6: realize this is about as productive as feeding a toddler into a wood chipper

      *turns on recording device*

      Tell me, what experience do you have that makes you say that?

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    12. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Load pdf in Adobe. Convert to or save as doc. If your version of Adobe doesn't have that bust out the credit card and upgrade it.

      If you're planing to use it to commit fraud to the tune of several million dollars you may as well pirate the software.

      So, you're suggesting that he should have risked the ire of the IRS *and* the BSA? I mean, one or the other you might be able to fend off, but both?!

    13. Re: this is a laughably easy conversion to make by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Some retarded banks and insurance companies still require faxes of legal documents because - signatures. They can't understand/deal with electronic documents that have an electronic signature in them.

    14. Re:this is a laughably easy conversion to make by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      ... the well-known work-a-like of As-Easy-As.

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  6. Right click, by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    Open with -> Word

    1. Re:Right click, by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

      Not if the pdf is based on a image (ie. pdf)

    2. Re:Right click, by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Acrobat has built-in OCR features IIRC.

    3. Re:Right click, by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

      The guy recommend opening in Word. I know my version of Word doesn't have OCR. You can open a PDF but if it is image based, Word will display the document as an image.

  7. Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by sehlat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least the toddler-in-chief didn't hire SMART criminals.

    1. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, the smart criminals are using the dumb criminals to absorb all the vitriol, news attention, law enforcement and special council resources.

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    2. Re:Be grateful. Be VERY grateful. by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Yea. If they were smart they would have run their own email server out of their bathroom.

  8. Does he need it? by Teun · · Score: 1

    I doubt he needs this skill where he's going.

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  9. This is How Stupid People Fail. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fear the intelligent evil people. The stupid ones do this kind of stuff.

    Even Ross Ulbricht (Sik Road pioneer and jail bird) got caught in part because he asked about a techy problem on on a techy forum using his own name, while developing the code.

    When I consider how to get away with crimes, the primary thing is working out how to break any link between yourself and your actions and between yourself and the victims. The secondary thing is to leave no trace in your personal effects. My legit job seems like a far better deal though.

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    1. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      When I consider how to get away with crimes... My legit job seems like a far better deal though.

      If not for the fact that you are using 'words' and not Twitter, I would have been sure that you were Trump.

    2. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Whorhay · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think about this kind of thing anytime I read about a crime committed for profit. I could see it maybe being worth the effort and associated risk if the payoff was never having to work again. But most of the time people are committing crimes over what amounts to paltry sums of money. In 2006 the average bank robbery in the US only got about $4300, and the numbers are even worse for other types of robberies. If I wanted to get any where close to what I'd consider a tolerable living I'd have to rob a bank every month. And even with the FBI only ID'ing 50% of bank robbers the odds of getting caught just aren't worth it by any stretch.

      Even if you got away with a massive haul of money the question then becomes how do you make it useful without getting caught. There is a reason organized crime always gets into money laundering. They end up with so much cash they can't legally explain earning, that they end up spending large parts of it cleaning the cash.

    3. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Megol · · Score: 2

      It's all out in the open. Ross didn't fuck up only once he did it once and then again and then again...

      Then he got caught with his notebook computer (used in a public space!) open with and logged in as administrator. Stupid.

      And then he was given the chance, even encouraged, to take ownership of the server in order to argue for its exclusion as evidence. This wouldn't be a disadvantage in the real trial either - as explained by the court and his lawyers. Stupid. Potentially lifetime before freedom stupid.

      He also documented his crimes in a diary and had fantasies of books being written about him. Extremely stupid.

      No he got caught because he is an arrogant bastard and being a complete idiot. FFS he even was the first to promote the site and this in a way that could be directly linked to himself!

    4. Re:This is How Stupid People Fail. by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      A big problem in my mind is what country to abscond to with so much cash? You need to first get the money there, cash gets pretty heavy and bulky when you start talking about hundreds of thousands and up. Then you need to get the money into a bank that isn't going to care where it came from. In a lot of countries even getting that money into a bank isn't going to keep it safe, let alone your person. Much of Central and South America is the territory of cartels that have diversified into kidnapping, for example.

      In many respects it's just easier and safer to work a job, or series of jobs, for 40 years. Save 10-20% of your earnings in a market indexed retirement fund and you'll probably be safe from eating dog food in your old age. At least that is what I keep telling myself.

  10. Misleading headline by dysmal · · Score: 1

    FTFA: He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the “Word” document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort.

    His issue is he didn't know how to convert .doc to .pdf.

    1. Re:Misleading headline by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      FTFA: He first sent the original PDF to Gates to convert it to a .doc in the first place.

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  11. So.. how would one do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Asking for a friend

  12. Should have hired a teenager or other by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two possible ways to go here:

    1) Hire teenager, who for dirt cheap has the time to sail the rocky shoals of PDF and DOC standards to do what you want, is way too disorganized for investigators to find anything. Cost: $200 and a few illegal beer runs. Downside: May take several passes to correct grammar.

    2) Hire Russian (to be more specific, Ukrainian) hacker to simply re-work the original PDF Postscript into what you want. When the investigators come knocking do you think they will be able to find the Russian hacker to get original documents? No. Cost: $50k, delivered in ETH please, and dead drops of USB sticks in place of meetings. Downside: All USB sticks you get back will be laden with latest viruses that will track you while you shower.

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  13. So... what's the best sex doll? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Also asking for a friend.

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  14. hire personal it personal assistant is a must by mevanchik1695 · · Score: 1

    if your in politics or any dirty work. But i wonder if there was such a person, and he did the conversion, would he also be liable in this case, if not the one blamed fully?

  15. Smart people don't use Microsoft by mi · · Score: 3

    Is there anybody with an IQ above room temperature still working in the US executive branch?

    Neither of these two people have worked for the US Executive branch.

    But, according to TFA, Gates would've passed the "Can you convert PDF to MS Word" test, which you consider so vitally important to determining one's intelligence.

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  16. Double-Entry Bookkeeping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That is why you keep two sets of books. One for the tax man, showing a loss. And one for the banks, showing a profit.

    That's why it's called double-entry bookkeeping.

    1. Re:Double-Entry Bookkeeping by funky49 · · Score: 1

      Excellent trolling/joking! Terrible accounting.

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  17. I donâ(TM)t know how either. by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Iâ(TM)m not slow. Indeed itâ(TM)s not a useful skill for one in a million people to have. So how does one do this?

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    1. Re:I donâ(TM)t know how either. by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Iâ(TM)m not slow. Indeed itâ(TM)s not a useful skill for one in a million people to have. So how does one do this?

      you are correct:
      This is a skill the majority of computer users do not need, and thus don't know how...

      There is the concept of covering your tracks carefully, however, if planning on commission of a crime. My suggestion on "how to" is to simply buy acrobat professional for a few hundred dollars (if it's even available stand alone anymore?) if you're not computer savvy, this way you can edit PDFs to you hearts delight. This is an idea that simply googling "editing PDFs" would turn up, so... yeah, the guy that got busted didn't even do basic due diligence.

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  18. Re:Fake news by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No real evidence of Russian Collusion by the Trump campaign....

    Which was the basis for the Special Prosecutor.

    No one seems to care how far off the rails this investigation is going...

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  19. There was more by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    There was a lot more, but this is what is being used for charging evidence.

    Oh, and, yes, we still have your cloud data.

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  20. Trump: I will surround myself... by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

    with the best of the best!

    Translation: I will surround myself with ninnies and nincompoops!!!!

  21. Re:Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Dast · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sees no "Russians" required.

    Who needs Russians when you can work with a Russia-aligned former Ukrainian president. You know, that country that Russia invaded?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/politics/paul-manafort-new-charges-mueller.html

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  22. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FFS, can you for once get off the "no collusion", " but what about her emails", "obama is a muslim" train and see that these are the people that YOUR president dealt with on a daily basis, hired, and defended on his campaign and presidency? The fact that there is an investigation where two people have pleaded guilty to Federal crimes in which they were dealing with Russian entities doesn't bother you one bit because you are too busy being a trumpkin apologist dosn't bother you one bit?

    We KNOW how far off the rails this investigation is going and we are glad it is seeping into every direction it needs to go to weed out all these corrupt people in the white house and beyond. But wait you don't care...political party before country. Yes, I see how you voted. nice try.

  23. Re:Garden Variety White Collar Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You are aware that a large part of the crime that they're accused of - and of which Gates is now pleading guilty - involves their work on behalf of a then Russian client state, do you not?

  24. Nonsensical claim about converting PDF to World by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    It's retaining distinct copies of a document before, and after, adding fraudulent content that trapped the man. Simply discarding previous, fraudulent versions of the document would have cleared the paper trail. Worse for careless criminals: Word documents normally retain some local history of changes on the author's computer, and are far more dangerous in terms of tracking when someone added fraudulent content. PDF is _much_ safer.

    PDF is not as user-familiar, and the better What You See is What You Get editors for it do cost money. But the idea that a criminal is making themselves more vulnerable because they work in PDF, not World, is foolish indeed.

  25. Re:dumb as a rock by burtosis · · Score: 1

    How about if they are only a part time clown and are working on passing the CPA exam? Asking for a friend.

  26. Re:Fake news by burtosis · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's all parallel construction by the NSA from his comments about getting rid of the deep state and limiting the spy agencies power. I think no one cares because we all realize we lost control of this country long ago.

  27. Re:Fake news by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Aside from top Trump campaign officials being caught meeting a Russian government agent, then denying having met, and when faced with clear evidence one person present admitting that they were there to be given dirt on the opponent - but still insisting it doesn't count because the dirt was poor.

  28. Re:Fake news by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

    Yup, target rich environment. Well, target rich for the IG. Which is why a shitload of the people involved in the investigation are being demoted, reassigned, or outright quitting.

  29. Headline wrong... by kenh · · Score: 1

    Manafort altered that "Word" document by adding more than $3.5 million in income. He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the "Word" document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort.

    Manafort didn't know how to turn a word document into a PDF, not the reverse as the headline claims.

    Seriously, don't the editors even read the submissions?

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  30. Re:This Muller by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Dah Comrade. Sing it! Earn your rubles.

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  31. FFS, read your own post by tomhath · · Score: 1

    First, none of these people ever worked in the White House or as part of the Executive Branch. They were campaign staff who were fired by Trump when he lost confidence in them.

    Second, without the collusion angle there is no reason for a special prosecutor.

    Third, where did "obama is a muslim" come from?

  32. Never heard of it. by westlake · · Score: 1

    Open source could have saved the day for this a-hole. But luckily for the rest of us he's an idiot.

    How often do you think these guys do their own paper work? If it s legitimate, it goes through their clerical staff and all they ever see is a working draft for mark-up or the end product.

  33. The Adobe Acrobat Pro ads just write themselves by Steve1952 · · Score: 1

    Scene: Home office, Manafort look-alike is typing on his computer. "Now how do I alter this spreadsheet? -- Gates will know". Overhead shot lets us see him starting to type an email. Cut to Mueller look-alike in a large office with an FBI logo on the wall. He is giving a high-five to other individuals wearing dark suits and sunglasses. Cut to Putin look-alike, saying "Need to alter a pdf? Get Adobe Acrobat Pro!"

  34. What version of Word was he using?! by ssufficool · · Score: 1

    Word 2013+ has built-in export PDF (Save As). Word 2016 opens PDF files for editing. Albeit the editing part is not entirely 100%.

  35. WRONG. that is not how it works by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    You investigate and the guilty act guilty and run in a panic to cover everything up. More conspiracies form if they didn't already exist. The new mess of new crimes all has to be unraveled in the process. A minor rule violation or lesser crime involved in the primary investigation ends up as a huge distraction in the pursuit of the thing being investigated. GUILTY people do this and also innocent people who freak out over side issues that might come into view (could be as simple as attempting to hide an affair being disclosed which is completely unrelated to the investigation...)

    It is not wrong to end up finding nothing went wrong or minor crimes instead of the primary purpose for the investigation but when everybody runs around in a panic and crimes are committed to PREVENT the investigation it is guilty and illegal as hell. Nobody knows if all that illegal activity is to obstruction of justice or simply unrelated or minor cover ups of tangential secrets. It's not like a warrant limiting a search, what they find can be referred for prosecution... it's an extremely powerful tool to dig at the truth. A jay walking stooge wanting to avoid a ticket could trade it for some useful information... It's how they take down organized crime, etc.

  36. Re:Fake news by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1

    For reasons other than collusion ....

    This is just a fishing expedition, designed to remove an elected president. Russians would be proud.

    Using biased FBI civil servants. All documented Dems except ONE.

    Using FAKE FISA warrants obtained using a collection of FAKE data bought by Hillary. Lied to a judge to get that "insurance policy" going.

    Meanwhile Comey signs off on those warrants (illegally) and laughs .... the Russians are very happy.

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    5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy