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EPA's Science Advisory Board Has Not Met in 6 Months (scientificamerican.com)
The U.S. EPA Science Advisory Board has not met in at least six months, and some of its members say it's being sidelined to avoid getting in the way of agency Administrator Scott Pruitt's anti-regulatory agenda, Scientific American reported this week. From the report: Agency officials say the lapse isn't intentional and that it's just the result of delayed paperwork. That has prevented the group from meeting because there weren't enough members to make a quorum. The board, which typically has about 45 members, is tasked by Congress to evaluate the science used by EPA to craft policy. The full board has not met since August, nor has it had any conference calls or votes. In the past, members would have had multiple interactions during that time period, said William Schlesinger, a board member who is an emeritus professor of biogeochemistry at Duke University. "I guess the Science Advisory Board still exists; I guess I'm still on it," he said. "I think the answer is maybe they're giving it what we used to call the 'pocket veto': If you don't meet, then the scientists are not a pain, because they don't have a forum."
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Have gnu, will travel.
Ignoring (or otherwise eliminating) the experts and science is pretty much standard operating procedure for this administration.
and no one but a few moonbats have missed it.
Yea ok. You mean the Trump train is making sure the scientific rationale for policies doesnt get in the way of good old boy white nationalist religious thought. You know silly things like science can't be trusted because of fake news and the deep state. We need more superior IQ people like Trump to make random decisions based on the latest fox and Breitfart news headline.
According to the summary, the Trump administration has innovated on government deplatformization. What else could they accomplish with this highly innovative government non-working system? Navy SEALs that have to swim to conflict from the shores of the nearest US coast?
Well I sure hope we don't make decisions based on your clear bias and hate.
The 'woke' metaphor is appropriate.
Government is what you get when people get together and decide how they want to live together, beyond just tribal rules.
Much of America's legal framework actually came from studying multi-tribe gatherings of tribes, banding together to end cycles of violence.
Here's the Extra History take on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Science now holds no place at the table with this latest administration. Liberal or conservative, this should not be accepted in ANY form of governance.
Indeed - it shouldn't even be called an actual government anymore. What we have is a largely sleeping body where representation of the United States, it's scientific community, and its ideas should be.
But our current administration has no interest in sharing space of any kind, in communicating ideas, of advancing any but their own narrowest of interests. They'll lavishly communicate with dictators of any kind, but never offer a second to science.
Which is a shame - because they're largely the last place of noteworthy power that baby boomers will hold in this world. This will be their legacy, more than most things.
It's such a shame they spend that power sleeping, while being robbed of everything they used to care about.
biogeochemistry
I read that as:
bigegochemistry
Like 10 times till I got it right :l
I'm not even sure Trump has the mental marble action going on to even get his OWN agenda through... which appears to be simply selling out to every possible polluter, adversary, hate group, corporate ponzi or debunked economic theory.
Being "biased" against obvious retarded traitors like Dunald Drumpf is a sign of basic intellect, which you apparently lack. Go drink your trash water.
During night, it is 10 degrees average colder than day time
and stays cold for 10 hours no end.
Waaa! Waaaa! wwwaaaaaaaa!!
Glow ball cooling is oppressing me each night!!!
So glow ball wumming doesn't work in the night
and only works when the sun comes out?
So 50% of a day and 50% of the whole year,
glow ball wamming doesn't exist?
Climate change now accelerated to 1 degree per HOUR!!!!
As the Sun cums up, the earth's temperature goes up
average 1 degree per hour. And when then Sun cums
down, the globe cools 1 degree per hour.
Climate is changing every hour!
Awe noooo! This is making me crispy and toasted.
Can I have a bacon sandwich to top it all off?
I'm torn here. Left to their own devices, businesses will pollute, strip, destroy, and maim anything in the name of profit. On the other side of that coin, the EPA has been egregiously out of control for years.
I don't know where the middle ground is, or if anyone knows what it is, but the pendulum *always* swings back the other way.
We're just taking a quick 4 year vacation to recharge ourselves. Well, technically a staycation -- wouldn't want to travel and risk visiting one of those shithole countries.
Such political polarization in society today is leading to some serious hate... Shesh...
Can you not bring yourself to see that many intelligent and well meaning folks don't agree with your politically motivated views? Believe them wrong if you like, but this "I'm more intelligent than you stupid folks" really doesn't help anybody or anything. In fact, it just shows how lacking in basic human decency your perspective has become. You can disagree, but there is no need to be disagreeable in the process.
I do hate morons, yes, you're right you deserve my hatred on a personal level for being as dumb as you are and calling it a political motivation. You're a fucking traitor if you support a fucking traitor. Period. No more sugarcoating.
Trump's administration has been marked by regulatory capture (FCC) or outright hostility to our system of government and regulation. To say the administration's actions are suspect in the wake of the ever widening Mueller investigation is a massive understatement. But even ignoring that, he's putting people in charge of government agencies that don't believe those agencies should function (DOE is another example). It feels like sabotage.
This is not governance in any political affiliation. This is treason and abdication of duty. Prison can't come soon enough for these fools.
Treason has a specific constitutionally defined meaning. I think you are trying way to hard to make Trump's actions meet that definition.
Prison time usually requires the commission of a crime. At this point, we have no direct evidence Trump committed any crimes here. We have a lot of theories about possible crimes being investigated, but being investigated isn't evidence of a crime. No crimes are in evidence and Treason isn't really possible at this point so I think you are rattling on about nothing but wild conspiracy theories for now..
Can we at least wait until the evidence comes out before we make wildly unlikely charges like Treason?
No? Ok.. Then stay with the partisan political craziness that drives all this pointless wrangling...
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Trump won and Science lost, so get over it, snowflakes.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I do hate morons, yes, you're right you deserve my hatred on a personal level for being as dumb as you are and calling it a political motivation. You're a fucking traitor if you support a fucking traitor. Period. No more sugarcoating.
I rest my case with the above post as proof.
With that attitude, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Which is WHY Trump is president.. Folks are tired of this partisan crap.
Lul. Nice try shill. Stay in topic.
Didn't you now science is now owned by The Pres and his party ?
The Roman Catholic Church use to define science based upon the scripture until I think the 19th or 18th century.
So we (US) have been moving slowly back to that time period, where real provable science is fake and real science is just entertainment :)
Strange times we live in, many people running the US rejects Science were Roman Catholic Church seems to be a leader in science.
Ignoring established economics? When it comes to trade tariffs on steel and aluminum, absolutely. He has protectionist attitudes toward trade that are laughable if the consequences weren't likely to be so serious. Most economists say that such tariffs are not going to help domestic producer, just cause an extra burden on the rest of the economy. And at the same it could set of at trade war undermining the global trading system. But Trump thinks that "Trade wars are good, and easy to win".
Treason requires war declared, yes. All other factors have been met, Donald Drumpf is a fucking traitor, period. Dither as you need to in defense of a traitor.
Trump realizes that the trade war has been on for _decades_, wants to start fighting back.
The two biggest up and coming economies (China and India) are both very protectionist. It's time for that to change.
China and India can't retaliate by imposing tariffs of their own, because those tariffs have been there forever. Apparently having low cost labor isn't enough for them, they also need local ownership rules, high import tariffs and currency pegs. All protectionist laws.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I prefer to believe you're just a fucking troll. Because if you're not a troll, and you're really that stupid and intellectually deficient, then I'm terrified by the fact that I could meet teh likes of you out in the streets.
Even if the planet as a whole gets warmer it doesn't mean that it cannot be cooler locally, which is what we are seeing.
A warmer arctic means that more glacier ice thaw and ends up in the sea. This in turn cools the water in the sea, which in turn gives cooler air in northern Russia and pushes the Gulf stream south, cooling the eastern parts of North America and northern Europe.
"China and India can't retaliate by imposing tariffs of their own" - You're a fucking moron, of course they can.
Until now, did it affect your life ?
5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy
I studied econ. They're definitely ignoring that field, as well.
"... it's being sidelined to avoid getting in the way of agency Administrator Scott Pruitt's anti-science agenda..."
I'm not really a web designer, I just play one on the Internet.
Thatâ(TM)s all I want to know.
Blame ? Congratulate. What a great way to cut the budget than eliminating 45 people who come in and get a fee for being opinionated.
I suspect most of the butt hurt in this thread, is from too many people that would like to be paid for having badly formed opinions.
Letâ(TM)s see.
- Many of Trumpâ(TM)s campaign associates have either admitted to or are being prosecuted for crimes
- He gave classified information to Russians
- he ask the FBI Director to go easy on the associate that has admitted to a crime. Then fired him when he did not comply.
- He canâ(TM)t criticize Putin or enforce sanctions that a both Republicans and Democrats think are necessary.
- he wonâ(TM)t taking any action to protect the mid-term election
- He brought his son-in-law in the WH thought he is in debt to foreign and canâ(TM)t hold a clearance because he lied on his questionnaire.
- He endorsed a pedophile for Senate. He was accused of sexual assault. He admitted to sexual assault.
- He had his lawyer payoff a porn star during the election in violation of election.
- He has bankrupted his company 6 times. No American bank will lend to him. He has not provided any financial disclosure. Who is he indebted to?
You are right. He hasnâ(TM)t been convicted of anything. However, it isnâ(TM)t partisan to see this spectacular and be worried for our country. He is bad but Americans saw that and still voted for him. Letâ(TM)s hope someone throws him in jail before we all pay the price for their mistake.
Trump will die in prison either way, next to his bitch beta sons. I hope you visit him to slather your oral support of treason all over his tiny bitch penis before they bury him. It's your big "political" opportunity, traitor.
But I don't think you'll get $130,000 out of it, or a "coal job" you fucking idiot lol. Enjoy your "tax cut" too dipshit, let your kids pay it instead. Brilliant job, "fiscal Republicans" lol. Traitors in every respect.
You're not of a valid political ideology, you're just another pseudo-Republican moron with the intellectual honesty and moral compass of a flea.
EPA is unconstitutional goverment interference in freedom of speech and market. Next kill off the department of "education" and re-privatize all the national parks that were stolen from regular americans by big goverment.
Your metaphor is wrong. The advisory board is full of scientists. They apply science to issues. Science is not a single instrument, but it is a way to address issues methodically and rational to avoid anecdotal "facts" which can lead you in the wrong way. Presently, you are losing your government. You will end up in feudalism.
I know, right? How ridiculous. I provide badly formed opinions for free.
William Schlesinger and others in the advisory board have a list of people who are on said advisory board, presumably. This list contains contact info, presumably, or conversely the members are well known enough (to one another, at least) that contact info is easy to retrieve, presumably. Send some emails, make some calls, decide on when everyone has time, and schedule a meeting. It can be done in person or via teleconference, most of these people are academics and will have access to decent bandwidth. If a quorum is reached without Pruitt or the political appointees, tough cookies for them, they should've done their job. This is an easy solution that requires literally minutes of time and maybe tens of dollars from everyone involved.
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
Sounds good. Tariff away, China. Maybe put tariffs in place that block sale of US Capital Equipment to Chinese manufacturers.
You're trying to change the subject. The EPA is supposed to get advice on both science and economics, and take both of them into account when issuing regulations. The science advisory board is there to advise them about science. But the administration doesn't like the science, so they shut down the advisory board so they don't have to listen to advice about it. You speak as if taking economic effects into account was somehow a replacement for taking science into account. It isn't. You need both, and they're ignoring the science.
But as for your question about the "science" of economics (believe me, it's not a science), yes, they're doing a pretty good job of ignoring that too. If they actually cared about long term economic effects, they'd be seriously worried about the massive costs of not addressing climate change. But their idea of "economics" is doing whatever's best for the companies that donate to their campaigns.
"I'm too busy to research this and form an educated opinion, but I do have time to tell everyone my uninformed opinion."
Treason has a specific constitutionally defined meaning. I think you are trying way to hard to make Trump's actions meet that definition.
Trump's action may not amount to the legal definition of treason, but there seems to be plenty of evidence that Trump has betrayed the trust of the American people, and has been negligent in his duties as president...
Some people get fired up and claim it's treason, but it's really what Trump denounced to get elected, good old corruption.
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The are changing the composition of the board and some people don't like it because the new people may have opposing views. Well that's just too bad.
"Schlesinger said he's concerned that Pruitt will stack the board with dissenting voices to create uncertainty in science where it might not exist.
"If a subcommittee working on a particular issue had enough industry people and naysayers cast enough doubt, the report that went back to the administrator would be rather vague; it would be equivocal, probably not be the basis for taking action," he said. "And a lot of times, that is what the industry wants on a subject: no change or minimal regulation."
By plenty of evidence, you mean anonymously sourced or unsourced media stories that cannot be corroborated, and are quickly forgotten even when the facts eventually come to light because the media is on to the next faux scandal they cannot support. This is what we have accused Fox News of for years, and now that all media outlets are culpable you become credulous of their claims.
So no, there is no evidence of treason, no evidence of corruption, no evidence of negligence. You are living in a fantasy land if you seriously believe this. It does not matter if you are a fan of Trump or not, these are facts as we know them today. It is time for Democrats and their supporters to grow up and realize they lost an election. Win the next one. Win back Congress. But stop bitching about things that did not happen and start focusing on how to actually win.
If Democrats show up this Fall or in 2020 with an anti-America anti-Trump message based on zero facts they will get slaughtered in those elections. Figure out a winning strategy that coopts the voters and doesn't disdain them. If you think calling people names is workable it is over and Trump and the Republicans will win out, for a long time.
Ok, calling people who ate anti-trump "partisan" and saying that they have an "attitude". Is ridiculous and hypocritical on its face. Trump can't go ten minutes, even in an unrelated speech on matters that should require solemn respect and decorum, without attacking people. The man politicized eulogies! Trump, and his supporters have lowered the bar on political debate to critically low levels. Most of the country is furious with him. Not for partisan reasons, but because he is such a terrible excuse for a human being. Most of his supporters, on the other hand, do seem to support him either for partisan reasons, or due to a bizarre cult of personality. Consider, for example, evangelicals, who tend to support a known (and proud and unrepentant) serial adulterer. And serial adultery is just the part that is absolutely known to be true. Then there''s all the other womanizing, forced sexual interactions, outright rape (Ivana retracted the word "rape" in exchange for money, but never changed her story about what happened), paying women for sex, appearing in pornagraphic videos, etc. The man is obviously, from the viewpoint typically espoused by evangelicals, a moral cesspool. He is also quite obviously not a real christian. Not that it would matter to most of his opponents, but many of his supporters normally claim that it's very important. Let''s not forget that he is married to an illegal immigrant, and that he has knowingly hired massive numbers of illegal immigrants in the past and that his modeling agencies have literally trafficked women to the US to work illegally on tourist visas.
People are sick and tired of this horrible travesty of a human being. And they're sick and tired of the hypocrisy and outright lies from his supporters.
Guess who.
"Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest - and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure, it's not your fault."
They haven't had a quorum because certain Dem senators keep holding up nomination for no other reason than to "resist". This is one of the effects. There is nothing keeping the whiner from doing his job in the meantime. He just wants the boondoggle trips for meetings to get away from his other job.
I've been on them. They are always for show and politically correct. One member from this place. One member from there. One Black. One Hispanic. Equality for women. One union rep, one from academia, one from the public sector. And every single person there has a political agenda to push, something they want done in the name of "justice" for their cause. Everyone tries one upmanship and grandstanding and thinks they can control the agency from their chair around the table. Advisory committees are not worth the cost the agency must pay for their lunches. It looks good on a resume and is a great excuse for a junket away from work so your employer thinks you're "contributing to the public good." and putting a feather in your oranization's cap as well as your own. It's a waste of time.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
Super! You won the semantic argument. Now about the air we breath and the water we drink...
Believe it when you are told that 'your side' has no compunction about manipulating ordinary peoples' perceptions based on their experience in the weather, when they can be manipulated into accepting 'climate change' theories as established fact.
Your hatred will eventually consume you. Be careful. Let it go sometimes. Everything isn't political 24/7.
unless you're just one of the crapflooders. Never mind, then.
You sound like someone so ignorant that they can't even imagine someone who isn't ignorant.
Hillary lost because she was worse then the guy who beat her. Get over it.
How about we use combination of utilitarianism and self-preservation decide?
now we are at the point where failing to vigorously use RICHARD NIXON's public relations stunt (the EPA) is TREASON?!?!?!
WTF?
Seriously, dude, just how whacko and deranged are you Trump haters gonna get? In ANY other era of American politics, Trump would be seen as a "moderate" Republican. His social policies are WAY to the left of any previous US Republican president, and indeed all previous US Democrat presidents other than Obama. While Trump is harder on immigration than the past three presidents, he's far less harsh than many US Presidents including the great moderate Republican President Eisenhower.
Has pure hatred and bile twisted you people so severely that you have NO sense of perspective and are completely untethered from reality and history?
Science says human beings only come in two sexes: male and female. Anything else is either a defect, a mental/psychological matter, or a boutique political cause.
Science says a human embryo is NOT part of its mother at all; it has its own unique human DNA. It also says that human embryos are alive, and in fact HUMAN rather than some other species. Science also says human embryos are not tumors or blobs.
Science says nuclear power is probably the best source of power without greenhouse gasses.
Science says GMO crops are OK, vaccines are OK, gluten is not going to hurt you if you do not have coeliac disease, and many other things.
Still hugging science?
Didn't think so.
You leftie snowflakes only pretend to embrace science and only when it's useable as propaganda to support your POLITICAL positions. The moment science is inconvenient to you, you run away from it.
When the left decides to embrace ALL science ALL the time, including when it gores the oxes of some of the core constituent groups of the Democrat party, you can then legitimately attack somebody else as "anti-science". Until then, you're just cherry picking like some on the political right, but you're too hysterical to see the symmetry.
How much damage are we supposed to sit and watch these "people" do before we do something about them? Why is the entire population simply twiddling their thumbs while what can only be described as *cartoon villains* go around wrecking everything their predecessors worked so hard to achieve for us? Are we supposed to simply bend over, think of England, and hope that maybe the next bunch can slow the spread of irreversible damage for a little while - at least until they're replaced by things like Pruitt again after a few years more?
The rule of law is long gone in this and several other countries. It's no wonder the People's Democratic Republic of America is so hard at work getting the population to demand it be disarmed.
U mad bro? Don't worry. You only have to endure 7 more years of Trump.
Please tell me who among them has plead guilty to any crime related to "Russian collusion". Anyone can get caught up in a process crime or unrelated crime. The average person breaks at least 3 Federal laws every day.
Psst, you're supposed to call him a "Russian bot" for maximum liberal edgelorditude.
>> you are losing your government. You will end up in feudalism.
Hmm, pick one or the other. Bigger governments lead to feudalism.
You are toting a huge conspiracy theory there AC...
Most of what you point to either couldn't be a crime because Trump is president and has the legal right to do what you claim is a crime... Some things really are not a crime when you consider the actual known facts. The rest are not crimes by Trump no matter how you slice it.
I get the feeling you are just pushing hard to make these claims because you are just upset with Trump having the gall to get elected...
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
You are living in a fantasy land if you believe trump is competent.
You guys won an election, which means you now have a president which has the responsibilities to uphold the duties of the office of president, and by any objective measurement trump has failed in almost every one of his responsibilities as president. This isn't fake news. He's literally not doing his job. Only the willfully clueless would not see that.
As soon as anyone pleads guilty to a crime there, you'll have something. So far Trump is the one going to prison along with his lawyers and bitch sons. Maybe you would like to go too, lol? Jerry you're dumb as fuck, traitor bitch.
While reading this, I could hear Hillary cackling in the background.
Treason has a specific constitutionally defined meaning. I think you are trying way to hard to make Trump's actions meet that definition.
Trump's action may not amount to the legal definition of treason, but there seems to be plenty of evidence that Trump has betrayed the trust of the American people, and has been negligent in his duties as president...
Some people get fired up and claim it's treason, but it's really what Trump denounced to get elected, good old corruption.
So can we admit that this is NOT a question of crimes or treason then? That those who make such claims are not being helpful?
IF you really believe that Trump has betrayed the country, then you will have a chance in 2020 to get somebody else elected. I'm going to offer one bit of advice... It MIGHT be a good idea to save your attacks for the election. At this point, attacking Trump relentlessly about unproven theories will only strengthen his ability to defend himself during the campaign... "They've been attacking me on this since day one, where is their proof after 4 years? There isn't any. This is all they got, but I've got these results..." The only reason for keeping this up now is to stymie Trump's efforts to make things better because you are afraid they might actually work..
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
The EPA does NOTHING to protect the environment and EVERYTHING to protect it's own slice of the budget.
Abolish the EPA.
The way I heard, millions more people voted for Hilary than Trump.
Yes to the science of a rain puddle on my property being a navigable waterway and being subject to the regulations therein! No, the EPA was all about expanding their realm only paying lip service to science or economics during the last administration. That's what big government does.
You said it yourself - an advisory board to issue regulations. Well the EPA is not issuing regulations at this time. They are in the process of unraveling the built up regulatory lard. That's what Trump promised to do during his election campaign. He selected someone to carry that out and he is.
Who needs to buy US Capital Equipment when you can make it yourself? If you don't think the chinese can't copy anything american made, then you obviously haven't taken a look around your household/office/world. The chinese can and will copy everything they can. Why? Because, the can make a cheaper version to sell back to American's.
Look at the Wish app for ios and android. Everything on there is chinese made, shipped (mostly) direct from china. Look at a lot of Amazon items, chinese knock offs for 1/3 the price.
Firing Comey is entirely likely to result in an obstruction of justice charge, regardless of the results of the probe. I think that at the moment, the odds are against conviction. I would like to think that a charge of treason would be impossible regardless of any actions taken, given that we are not in a declared war, but apparently we have a bad history of ignoring that provision.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
And this is why I vote: to cancel out yours.
Clinton did not have any authority to deny that trade deal. Uranium One isn't even an American company. For a couple years, some uranium was exported to Canada for processing, and returned to the US. Due to how that works, it can technically be said that some uranium mined in the US in that brief period was exported to Japan and western Europe. No one in the US sold a damn thing.
You are a liar.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
I like it when the little red LED next to a user's name gets confirmed with their new posts... It cuts out ambiguity.
Only I can judge you.
Thanks for posting this. I was too demotivated by the volume of ignorance to reply to the idiotic rightist AC poster.
Only I can judge you.
You might want to ask for an increase in your meds. Also, please ask someone to hold your guns if the voices keep coming.
Only I can judge you.
I doubt you'll continue with the smug attitude when your children blame you for the horror drumpf will have visited upon their future. Sadly, drumpf won't finish his term and the much more focusedly evil penis breath pence will.
Only I can judge you.
Applying math to a theoretical model does not make something a science. Economics is not science, it has no basis (no laws of physics) other than theories which have been proven false and inapplicable in all meaningful situations.
Only I can judge you.
I hate drumpft in ways that most of you can't imagine beginning to fathom. I am however in favor of tariffs, protectionism is how economies are built and industries fostered. It is what got China so big so quick. We need strategic tariffs to protect our industries. Instead of protecting extractionist and unadvanced industries like chemically based agriculture, we should be protecting and holding on to high-technology and advanced manufacturing. Our current policies are geared toward making us a third-world agricultural country.
Only I can judge you.
He technically never gave classified info to anybody. Unfortunately, as soon as the president decides something is not classified, it is not classified. It might be stupid, but it's the way the law is written. Blame congress.
Thanks, I have a crippling illness but you just lifted my spirits. It's always important to remember there are others worse off.
"EPA's Science Advisory Board Has Not Met in 6 Months" Baloney. The world could not survive 6 months without that group of intellectuals meeting.
Didn't the Trump administration fire all of the scientists on the EPA's advisory board? Or maybe they resigned in protest?
Either way, it's hard for a board that has no members to meet. Who will supply the PowerPoint?
I am happy to have lifted your spirits. Hope you are doing well.
Remember that many of us are in support of people with crippling illnesses getting the help they need and are happy to pay taxes toward those ends. Same as we are happy to help support those who are in less-than-fortunate economic circumstances through the bad choice they made in being born to non-wealthy parents, or having been caught up in the racist legal system.
Only I can judge you.
At this point, attacking Trump relentlessly about unproven theories will only strengthen his ability to defend himself during the campaign... "They've been attacking me on this since day one, where is their proof after 4 years? There isn't any. This is all they got, but I've got these results..." The only reason for keeping this up now is to stymie Trump's efforts to make things better because you are afraid they might actually work..
Trump's a born liar, he's going to make the argument that everything bad that anyone says about him is lies no matter what anyone does. It'll either be "they've been complaining for years about me" or "suddenly they have complaints about me because it's election time". Knowing Trump, he might actually say both of those in the same sentence. How about we just try to offer and accept honest criticism where it's due? Not everything Trump does is bad, but I'm hard pressed to come up with many examples where he did something good that he didn't immediately reverse course on.
Americans are definitely getting the best government that money can buy... for those with the money to buy it.
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We need a blue ribbon panel of agency experts to investigate the problem and advise the president. Oh wait, Hillary lost.
Well, count me in, anyway.
?? Feudal states were rather decentralized.
So you are afraid that Trump's actions might actually work then... It's not about all the supposed crimes he's accused of committing, you admitted that... Maybe you just don't like him? No?
But you cannot bring yourself to say anything nice here? The tax cuts? The elimination of the ACA mandate? His massive reductions in the burdensome regulations his administration has been undoing? Nothing?
I suggest you actually go take a look at what he's really accomplished here. Not what the talking heads are saying, but what his administration has actually managed to do; look at the actual results.
He's not been perfect, but he's done a LOT of what he's promised and made a good effort on the rest of his campaign. Despite what you may have heard, he's actually been rather effective, especially given his past experience with political office.....
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
They already did, 20+ years ago. Revenue stream is long dead, they can only beat a dead horse.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Chinese machine tools are sloppy junk. They won't even buy them. They prefer German though. Jap hate keeps them from going there. The Germans are making fortunes manufacturing tools in S. Korea for China.
Chinese Cutters (end mills etc) are OK, but that industry is so automated they don't have a _huge_ advantage.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Remember that many of us are in support of people with crippling illnesses getting the help they need and are happy to pay taxes toward those ends.
As a point of pride I have never taken a government handout or public charity. Instead of taxes perhaps you might think about giving to one of the many community organizations that are much more efficient at helping those in need.
Your post is a prime example of why you dumbasses are really dumb. We're smart. You try to fuck us and we'll just find a way around it. The harder you try to fuck us, the more it ends up fucking your own ass. If you took the time to learn some statistics you'd know this already.
Your particular situation or views doesn't change mine. Best wishes!
Only I can judge you.
Would the IRS please issue a refund of the taxes I paid for this non-operational agency?!
I'd rather it be fully implemented, yet, if it isn't doing anything, then stop paying them, and Pruitt.
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
The current Us government is weakening the ability of the state. Therefore, it cannot act on the behalf of the people. What you need is a powerful state and a lot of democratic control and checks and balances. For example, the parliament should be the place where laws are made. The president should only have executive powers. The main goal of the main state should be supporting social and technical standards, provide security when this cannot be done by each federal state etc. For example, the federal government should define minimal standards for police education and training, e.g., 3 years training + 3 years as a junior police officer in the field. The single states can then implement then this education scheme and employ the police officers. Is a state not wealthy enough to employ enough police officers they should get transfers from other states or the federal government, as crime does not stop at state borders.
So you are afraid that Trump's actions might actually work then... It's not about all the supposed crimes he's accused of committing, you admitted that... Maybe you just don't like him? No?
You just don't understand people, do you? People aren't afraid that Trump's actions will work, they're afraid that they will fail spectacularly and everyone else will be left paying the bills for Trump's failures.
But you cannot bring yourself to say anything nice here?
Nope, when has Trump ever done anything nice?
The tax cuts?
Primarily going to the people who need the tax relief the least. It'll likely be popular but it's poor fiscal policy, America's children will be paying off the debt this tax break is going to incur for generations. It's yet another example of how the Baby Boomer generation has bankrupted America.
The elimination of the ACA mandate?
Yay. More sick people, how could that ever be bad?
His massive reductions in the burdensome regulations his administration has been undoing?
Poisoned water and air! The next generation is going to love that too.
Nothing?
See, you can't list anything good either.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
Nah, my kids are going to thank me that their 509 accounts grew SO MUCH under Trump that they will leave college with no student loan debt, and therefore have a minimal probability of turning into bitter liberal Slashdot/Reddit trolls living in their parents' basement. Sorry for your hurt feelings, bro.
You should try actually giving directly. Expecting the state to do things for you is isolating.
I never said I don't give directly. The state should definitely take care of the poor, the disabled, the addicted, you know, everyone with needs. Those things are too big for individuals to fix as are roads and infrastructure.
Those too proud to want help would still be free to start their own private charity or get help from private charity if they are so anti-government. I'm sure those people too would not want to drive on government roads, attend government schools, use government paramedics, or government firemen, etc. You know, to keep themselves pure like Ayn Rand (Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum) would want them to be.
Only I can judge you.
Some of the board members are resisting signing their suicide notes. no matter how many times we waterboard them, they just refuse to sign. It's not like we're going to shoot them, twice, in the back of the head once they've signed the note about how sad they are.
Maybe we'll just slip them a Mickey Finn, put them in their Tesla in the garage with the engine running, and leave them to die. That'll teach those pesky scientists to mess with businessmen!
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