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Jaywalkers Under Surveillance In China Will Soon Be Punished Via Text Messages (scmp.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from South China Morning Post: Traffic police in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen have always had a reputation for strict enforcement of those flouting road rules in the metropolis of 12 million people. Now with the help of artificial intelligence and facial recognition technology, jaywalkers will not only be publicly named and shamed, they will be notified of their wrongdoing via instant messaging -- along with the fine. Intellifusion, a Shenzhen-based AI firm that provides technology to the city's police to display the faces of jaywalkers on large LED screens at intersections, is now talking with local mobile phone carriers and social media platforms such as WeChat and Sina Weibo to develop a system where offenders will receive personal text messages as soon as they violate the rules, according to Wang Jun, the company's director of marketing solutions.

For the current system installed in Shenzhen, Intellifusion installed cameras with 7 million pixels of resolution to capture photos of pedestrians crossing the road against traffic lights. Facial recognition technology identifies the individual from a database and displays a photo of the jaywalking offense, the family name of the offender and part of their government identification number on large LED screens above the pavement. In the 10 months to February this year, as many as 13,930 jaywalking offenders were recorded and displayed on the LED screen at one busy intersection in Futian district, the Shenzhen traffic police announced last month. Taking it a step further, in March the traffic police launched a webpage which displays photos, names and partial ID numbers of jaywalkers. These measures have effectively reduced the number of repeat offenders, according to Wang. The next step -- informing the errant pedestrians by text or Weibo instant messaging -- could have the added benefit of eliminating the cost of erecting large LED screens across the cities, he said.

139 comments

  1. So What? by dohzer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So what?! It's not like the government has a ranking system that denies them the ability to travel out of the coun... oh... wait.

    1. Re:So What? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Uber has the technology already developed to punish jaywalkers.

    2. Re:So What? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Uber has the technology already developed to punish jaywalkers.

      Damn, that's brutal! Funniest thing I've read today.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    3. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wish I had Mod points, +5 Funny

    4. Re:So What? by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

      Some governments have a system that obliges its citizens to 'travel' out of the country.

    5. Re: So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too soon bro.

    6. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uber's new strategy: make sure passengers have a life insurance policy with themselves listed as the beneficiary, then pick up (or mow down) the passenger. Its a win-win! :)

    7. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      too soon?

    8. Re:So What? by NettiWelho · · Score: 1

      Uber has the technology already developed to punish jaywalkers.

      FALSE - The car would've reacted the same(ie. no reaction) if it was a group of 40 pre-schoolers crossing a well-lit and marked pedestrian crossing.

    9. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be fun at parties.

    10. Re:So What? by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      Why is walking across the street even illegal? Why are cars given priority?

      From wikipedia: Originally, the legal rule was that "all persons have an equal right in the highway, and that in exercising the right each shall take due care not to injure other users of the way."[4] In time, however, streets became the province of motorized traffic ....

      It isn't illegal (jaywalking) in most places.

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      Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
    11. Re:So What? by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      Uber didn't develop it, they just copied it from every taxi driver in NY. It has long been know that jay-walking in NYC was a very dangerous occupation/pastime.

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    12. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because a small number of pedestrians crossing wherever they please has a large detrimental impact on congestion and safety of everyone on the road.
      Same reason we have traffic lights instead of juts 4 way yield signs and ignoring the light is illegal.

    13. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're also talking about another country here. Wikipedia for whatever reason lacks any mention of China's handling of jaywalking (though it does mention Singapore harshly punishing jaywalkers). My guess is that the government doesn't want roads transporting goods being clogged with the broken bodies of jaywalkers - evidently it's not uncommon for vehicles to simply keep going regardless of whether a pedestrian or motorbike is in their way. I'd caution against going to watch any, but videos of pedestrians, cyclists etc. being mowed down in China are a staple on sites like Liveleak.

    14. Re: So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dweight! Glad you could join us.

    15. Re:So What? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Pedestrians were safe with horses.

      Jaywalking was already illegal in 10 countries by 1917 however.

      Cars and pedestrians don't mix in uncontrolled circumstances. One of them is softer than the other.

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      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    16. Re: So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So lose the fucking cars. Walking in a city should never be criminal.

    17. Re: So What? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Cars - or something like them, which can transport more than you could comfortably carry and can be used by people incapable of walking - are necessary. And there are definitely times when walking in a city should be criminal - unless you're okay with me strolling through your house (in a city) or your bank vault (in a city).

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    18. Re:So What? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Cars are given priority because they can move faster and cause more damage in collisions.

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
  2. Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is building a world I don't particularly want to live in.

    1. Re: Once more by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that after WWII, the Chinese don't like J-walking any more than they like anything else coming from Japan.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    2. Re:Once more by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is building a world I don't particularly want to live in.

      Indeed, it's not like this system couldn't be used to pick out who doesn't give a standing ovation at a communist party rally, or identify who doesn't smile and salute as the military parade goes by.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    3. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that many people are jaywalking that something like this 'needs' to be done, then I would say that the issue is looking more like an infrastructure problem than a law enforcement issue.

    4. Re:Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it's a darn good thing we in the US of A have all those gosh-darn gun rights. It just makes sure IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE.

      Why if our government tried anything like that we'd all just pick up our AR-15s and march down to the Capitol and....

      Hey, where'd everybody go?

    5. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because never in history have common pedestrians ever had the right-of-way over vaunted Drivers. Why, back in the horse and buggy days we'd strap a six-gun to the side of the carriage and gun-down any pedestrian who so much as looked like they might step off the curb in the wrong spot.
      In Roman times charioteers would weld swords to the edges of their carts and race down the streets of Rome, disemboweling people who got too close to the curbs. In ancient Egypt they...
      They didn't have the wheel, per se, but when they got around to building streets you can bet the first thing they did is put little white lines at the intersections for all the pedestrians to walk between.

      I say keep those pedestrians in line. Mow 'em down before they spread. The world is for drivers -- only. Get a car!

    6. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do though

    7. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Building all roads underground or an overpass every 10m would be prohibitively expensive in any country in the world,

    8. Re:Once more by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Why if our government tried anything like that we'd all just pick up our AR-15s and march down to the Capitol and....

      Hey, where'd everybody go?

      Everybody's down at the corner, shooting at the jaywalking cameras.

    9. Re: Once more by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      People need to stop driving cars. Bicycles, pedestrians and mobility scooters only on urban streets. Take the train if you need to get somewhere far away. If there is no train, ask your city planners why there is no train.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    10. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone in China has phones. They are far cheaper and have tons more features since they're the ones building the phones.
      For instance: they get broadcast HD TV on their phones...no data required.

    11. Re:Once more by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      > This is building a world I don't particularly want to live in.

      Be worry. Don't happy.

      At least being punished by text messages is not as bad as being punished by Justin Bieber music.

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    12. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds to me like you are a communist. Without large highway construction projects to pad the pockets of city council members who have uncle's innth3 construction trade how would politicians afford to buy hookers and finance their reelection campaign. No we need to start taxing the bicycles and pedestrians to buy more blow for the noble elected officials.

    13. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People need to stop driving cars.

      Who let the hippy out of the commune?

    14. Re:Once more by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      People don't even shoot at red light cameras with paintball guns.

      the armalad 15's combined with high capacity magazines killing power is too high for civilians but too low to resist military weaponry.

      We need to decide- give everyone live grenades, fuel air bombs, and nuclear arms or limit civilians to shotguns, handguns, small magazines, and track/limit the number of bullets they buy without returning casings.

      I'd tax bullets with a floating rate sufficient to cover the annualized cost of shooting victim's medical, rehabilitation, and funeral costs.

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    15. Re:Once more by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Gr... Curse slashdot and typos... ArmaLite.. not armalad.

      It isnt' really the AR15 that's the problem anyway. It's the killing capacity of weapons that exceed machineguns (which killed 7 people leading the NRA to help write a law restricting access to such terrific killing power after the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.)

      Magazines exceeding 10 shots should be registered and licensed the same as machine guns. And after a reasonable period to register or swap for smaller capacity magazines, possession of such magazines should be fined and punished the same as owning an unlicensed machine gun or semi-automatic modified to fire automatically. (that's up to 10 years federal prison, no parole btw.)

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    16. Re: Once more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds to me like you're Nazi moron.

    17. Re: Once more by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      The other AC wasn't saying "get rid of pedestrians", they were saying "people should stop putting themselves in dangerous positions".

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
    18. Re: Once more by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      And for deliveries to restaurants, businesses, etc. and for moving, people should do... what? Have a fleet of mobility scooters carrying produce constantly to a grocery store? Throw all your furniture onto a bike?

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
    19. Re:Once more by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Why? Rifles are such a small percentage of violent crime, and are used so often to hunt or for protection that it makes no sense to single them out. More to the point, if you train it's not hard to switch magazines quickly.

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
    20. Re:Once more by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Why? Machine Guns are such a small percentage of violent crime?
      Why? Live grenades are such a small percentage of violent crime?
      Why? Rocket Powered Grenades are such a small percentage of violent crime?
      Why? Ammonium Nitrate Bombs are such a small percentage of violent crime?
      Why? Ricin is such a small percentage of violent crime?

      Switching a series of six 10 round magazines slows mass shooters down and gives other people with guns a chance to shoot them. Or other unarmed people a few seconds to run. And regardless of how you train, you can always screw up the magazine swap and drop a magazine or goof it up as opposed to killing 6 more people in the same time it would have taken to swap magazines.

      There are weapons which are not sufficient to stop tyranny but which are way to dangerous to have in civilian hands. We already know that because we already heavily regulate them. The killing power of the combination of semi-automatic weapons combined with large magazines is in the range that requires heavier regulation. One person can injure over 800 people and kill 58 people very quickly.

      You do not need that kind of firepower to hunt.

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      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    21. Re:Once more by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      I don't think the comparison between things that are currently illegal and make up a small percentage of violent crime and things that are legal and make up a small percentage of violent crime makes sense if you're trying to justify making something new illegal.

      I don't think large capacity magazines are necessary to hunt, but I also don't think banning them will really have an impact on gun violence or homicides. That being said, I appreciate you being fairly civil about this and taking a fairly moderate stance, both of which are sorely lacking from most public discourse right now.

      Rifles - and guns in general - can be sufficient to stop tyranny. They aren't being used to do so right now, and many of the people who have them in the US don't seem to care very much about a lot of other civil liberties, but in principle they could be quite effective.

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
  3. The fine? Death! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    . . . Death, by Snu Snu!

    Tourism and jaywalking in China grow exponentially.

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    Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
  4. Wrong way around by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shaming pedestrians for crossing safe roads (I assume they are not suicidal) while the president makes himself an all-powerful dictator makes a fine country indeed. I'd rather have a country where corruption is automatically shamed.

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    Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
    1. Re:Wrong way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shaming pedestrians for crossing safe roads (I assume they are not suicidal) while the president makes himself an all-powerful dictator makes a fine country indeed. I'd rather have a country where corruption is automatically shamed.

      You know, almost all of that can be applied to the US these days ... Trump doesn't know or care what the law says, seems to want a personal oath of loyalty (to him, not the Constitution), has mingled his family business with the presidency (by letting his children be his advisers as well as running his business), and generally acts like he expects his every whim to be treated as if it is law.

    2. Re:Wrong way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Shaming pedestrians for crossing safe roads (I assume they are not suicidal) while the president makes himself an all-powerful dictator makes a fine country indeed. I'd rather have a country where corruption is automatically shamed.

      You know, almost all of that can be applied to the US these days ... Trump doesn't know or care what the law says, seems to want a personal oath of loyalty (to him, not the Constitution), has mingled his family business with the presidency (by letting his children be his advisers as well as running his business), and generally acts like he expects his every whim to be treated as if it is law.

      Heh.

      One wonders if you sang the same tune when Obama whipped out his "pen and phone" and repeatedly got slapped down 9-0 by the Supreme Court.

      A humiliating Supreme Court loss for Obama

    3. Re:Wrong way around by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Shaming pedestrians for crossing safe roads (I assume they are not suicidal) while the president makes himself an all-powerful dictator makes a fine country indeed. I'd rather have a country where corruption is automatically shamed.

      By definition, future God-Emperor, "Gee KingPin" cannot be corrupt because he is the law.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    4. Re:Wrong way around by tepples · · Score: 2

      Alternative source for those whose subscription package happens not to include Washington Post: "Study: Obama Had Worst Record in Supreme Court in Modern History" by Elizabeth Harrington

    5. Re:Wrong way around by jittles · · Score: 2

      Shaming pedestrians for crossing safe roads (I assume they are not suicidal) while the president makes himself an all-powerful dictator makes a fine country indeed. I'd rather have a country where corruption is automatically shamed.

      My experience in China is that, yes, this is the wrong way around, but not in the way you’re suggesting. Instead, they should be going after people who run red lights in vehicles. I’ve walked somewhere in the 100 mile range in the streets of China and have almost been hit by vehicles disobeying a red light on average at least once every 10 miles. And that is NOT including the times I’ve stopped to avoid people running a red light. Those are strictly the times where I didn’t realize I was about to get run over.

      China is pushing electric vehicles hard. They’re quiet enough that you had better have your eyes glued to oncoming traffic, even when you have right of way, or you just might get killed!

    6. Re:Wrong way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that story include his DACA, which everyone said was illegal but never made it to supreme court.
      Or how the IRS was used to target his political opponents.
      Or how his administration illegally spied on Congress while working on the Iran deal.
      Or how his administration abused FISA to spy on Trump's campaign.
      Or how he directed the FBI to not charge Hillary for mishandling classified information/ obstruction of justice/ destruction of evidence.
      Or how he allowed his secretary of state to take over $100 million in bribes to allow the sale of uranium to Russia.
      Yea, but the recess appointments while the Senate was not in recess was another good one.

    7. Re:Wrong way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get back to me when he's president for life and enacts social ratings that deny you rights.

    8. Re:Wrong way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why assume that? If you saw how Chinese people drove and rode and walked on or near roads you would not be so sure about your assumption. They really do place little value on their own lives.

  5. Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... paragraph 213/b-N of civil of conduct in traffic. 4 points have been subtracted from your citizen performance measure. You are now -72 of average at a level of 968. Have a profitable day Sir and please comply with the law and the codes of conduct. - Big Ching is watching you.

    Levels and Punishment
    950 - 50 hours of social work
    900 - 100 hours of social work, public shaming and +30% on your rates for public transport
    750 - 500 hours of social work
    400 - permanent containment until debt of 300 points is recovered (20pt / Quarter)
    300 and below: Inmediate recycling of all your personal biomaterial at the nearest biorecycling facility

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    1. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by ITRambo · · Score: 2

      I wonder how many "rebels" will wear masks, sunglasses, wigs, overcoats, and walk with a limp as they jaywalk, just to "beat the man".

    2. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by MrKaos · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wonder how many "rebels" will wear masks, sunglasses, wigs, overcoats, and walk with a limp as they jaywalk, just to "beat the man".

      It doesn't matter. I don't know if you have seen what they are using, it's an AI augmented camera array that picks up multiple markers of a persons identity, they are really pretty scary.

      One of the things it does is provide descriptions of offenders in real terms like "suspect is moving west, red shirt, black shorts, black hair, 5'3", white shoes". Worse they pick up mood, so it can tell if you are pissed off.

      It's about the most intrusive thing I've ever seen AND if you are paying attention politicians used some awful tragedy to implant the idea into peoples conscious that these sorts of camera arrays are a necessity and all the ones I saw on news reports talking of the need for it so they prepare the way for legislation to mandate these devices.

      I wouldn't be surprised if you see it soon.

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    3. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by mysidia · · Score: 2

      it's an AI augmented camera array that picks up multiple markers of a persons identity, they are really pretty scary.

      Nothing a suitably equipped drone or bunch of radicals hiding under blue bedsheets with cans of spraypaint to target the lenses of the camera arrays couldn't take care of....

    4. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      I wonder how many "rebels" will wear masks, sunglasses, wigs, overcoats, and walk with a limp as they jaywalk, just to "beat the man".

      None? It's a communist dictatorship, not an American high school.

    5. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by gnick · · Score: 2

      ...radicals hiding under blue bedsheets with cans of spraypaint...

      The Chinese have ways of dealing with radical activists.

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      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    6. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      The Chinese have ways of dealing with radical activists.

      What... like more LCD monitors showing the activists to embarrass them?

      Only works if they can (1) figure out who they are before, during, and after, and (2) catch them.

    7. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a very easy solution. All businesses in China are government owned. They will simply shut down the wig/mask/overcoat factory, or they will check the purchase records and stalk you down.

    8. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by gnick · · Score: 2

      Yes. More LCD monitors. Because the Chinese treat radical activists the same way they treat jaywalkers. I'm not even going to bother digging up examples of how wrong this is.

      Only works if they can (1) figure out who they are before, during, and after, and (2) catch them.

      How many cameras do you think your hypothetical activist is going to compromise before police decide to stop the guy wearing a blue bed sheet carrying a can of spray paint?

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    9. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      > Worse they pick up mood, so it can tell if you are pissed off.

      Wow, won't be long until they're logging your Crime Coefficient Index and pulling you off the street for pre-crime indicators. Maybe if your CCI gets high enough the cops will be authorized to terminate you on the spot...

    10. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      What... like more LCD monitors showing the activists to embarrass them?

      You could find yourself working in a prison camp, perhaps sorting through used LCD monitors for recycling. If you behave yourself you might get to work at Foxconn and get two restroom breaks per day.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    11. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably just 1.
      But the activists can choose what cameras they attack, while the police have to defend every camera. Additionally some of the police might be sympathizers or susceptible to bribery.

      If there is sufficient motivation on the part of the activists to stick it out the end game here is every camera has one or more cops guarding it at which point the point of the cameras is largely defeated and the activists have won a strategic victory even if the bulk of their attacks are tactical defeats.

    12. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...even if the bulk of their attacks are tactical defeats.

      If the bulk of their attacks are tactical defeats (read: Work Camp), there aren't going to be a lot of attacks. Not many people would accept those consequences for the thrill of defeating 1 camera.

    13. Re:Citizen, you have violated section c of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...radicals hiding under blue bedsheets with cans of spraypaint...

      The Chinese have ways of dealing with radical activists.

      Ai, Weiweis.

  6. Nice Big Brother by bestweasel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nice Big Brother makes sure you cross the road safely.
    Nice Big Brother doesn't mind what else you do.
    Nice Big Brother won't object if you attend a protest.
    Nice Big Brother won't keep a record of who you talk to.
    Nice Big Brother has only your best interests at heart.
    All praise Nice Big Brother!

    1. Re:Nice Big Brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice Big Brother makes sure you cross the road safely.
      Nice Big Brother doesn't mind what else you do.
      Nice Big Brother won't object if you attend a protest.
      Nice Big Brother won't keep a record of who you talk to.
      Nice Big Brother has only your best interests at heart.
      All praise Nice Big Brother!

      You left out:

      Nice Big Brother won't ubiquitous surveillance to spy on you.
      Nice Big Brother won't use a firearms registry to disarm everyone so Nice Big Brother can stay in power.

  7. Wait until they're in the middle of traffic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please wait to send the text messages to dumbfuck Meanderthal iDioticuses until they're in the middle of traffic.

    Preferably with a large bus coming.

    Can we also put more open manholes in?

  8. IN AZ jwalkers get auto killed by self driving car by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    IN AZ jwalkers get auto killed by self driving cars

  9. Re:The fine? Death! by olsmeister · · Score: 1

    More likely to be death by tank.

  10. Air quality sucks. by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 1

    What happens if everyone starts wearing surgical masks? Won't it just be a DB with a billion peoples' eyes?

    1. Re:Air quality sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They all look the same anyway.

      Come on, you were all thinking it.

    2. Re:Air quality sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will until the Sesame Credit system ticks people for being "Critical of Air Quality" whenever they are wearing the masks.

  11. Re:The fine? Death! by TWX · · Score: 1

    I've heard that AA gun is popular in that region of the planet.

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  12. Justice. by jellomizer · · Score: 0

    Punishment may be used in justice, but justice isn't punishment.
    Justice doesn't mean breaking a law need to be punished. But it means the reason and circumstances for such actions should be evaluated. If such actions deemed to be harmful or needlessly dangerous then corrective action should be in place.

    All too often, I see people taking the laws and rules, and hammering peoples freedom with them, where the intent or practice of such a law isn't practical or may be outdated.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  13. Re:IN AZ jwalkers get auto killed by self driving by TWX · · Score: 1

    Yes, but the self-driving car is not a function of the state or contracted to provide enforcement. If anything, since the accident the state has been harder on self-driving cars, not harder on jay-walking.

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    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  14. What a cuntry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poison and pollute the world with fentanil and youre a hero of the people leader for life. But jaywalk and they sell your kidney.

    Good thing we trade with thise cunts to our own destruction! There's no way those racist cunts hate us or anything either..

  15. Psychological warfare. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just another part of government of Xi's psychological warfare on the people. They are sending the message that they are God and a lack of reverence will be punished. The point is to keep people thinking that the government has absolute control and thus any challenge to it would be futile.

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  16. Hmm, I think I've seen this somewhere before... by IMarvinTPA · · Score: 1

    Somehow, i think this applies: Arson, Murder, and http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...

    Share and Enjoy!
    IMarv

  17. Did you hear the one... by puddingebola · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you hear the one about the guy who got a photo from an automated speed camera? There was a picture of his car and a letter saying he was going 80 mph, and the fine was $200. He took a photo of $200 and mailed it back to them.

    1. Re:Did you hear the one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the police then sent him back a photo of hand-cuffs.

    2. Re:Did you hear the one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know they have km in China...

    3. Re:Did you hear the one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow...I just got took for $185 for doing 40 in a 30, at least according to the Opie Cunningham-looking cop who pulled me over.

  18. Re:The fine? Death! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People complain that the AA gun was overkill, but if I got to choose between being executed with an AA gun or a .22, guess which I'd pick.

  19. Re: Stupid Little Brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thinks his penis-replacement handgun will matter against his governments all encompassing drone army..

    Enjoy slavery pleb! When they kill you from miles away your guns will be their justification, just like the thousands of Iraqis before you.

  20. Re: Built by Cisco & Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good thing they're "our" corporations right?

  21. Re:IN AZ jwalkers get auto killed by self driving by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    today it is like that but down the road the state can use that to get rid of people and make it look like an accident

  22. Soon I will give up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And content myself with sitting on the porch and yelling at clouds. Screw the police state, I remember when talking on the phone required keying up and activating the phone patch on the repeater. A BBS at 300bps was a big deal. I drove my car, but only after I fixed it, and I spent time outside with my girlfriend.

    I shit you not, where we are today is meaner, more limiting and less fun. And it’s less real, technology advancement, which I happen to play a part in, has certainly not resulted in an improvement in quality of life for most people.

    Oh. And if you’ve made it this far reading this post, get the -fuck- off my lawn.

  23. Stable society? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There may be a wide variety of rule sets that make a stable society.

    Civil order is useful.
    These watchful cameras may be a means to that end.
    The problem is accountability for the watchers.
    If everybody gets the same consequence for each and every 'misdeed' then fine.
    If those in power do not apply the rules to themselves, then eventually the rest will figure it out.
    The reverse of civil order will result.

    Historically, China may be the poster child for this last failure mode.
    Best wishes to those in power at being smarter this time.

  24. Re: Stupid Little Brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thinks his penis-replacement handgun will matter against his governments all encompassing drone army..

    Enjoy slavery pleb! When they kill you from miles away your guns will be their justification, just like the thousands of Iraqis before you.

    Funny how you picked an example where that "all encompassing drone army" wound up withdrawing...

    <HOMER> DOH!!!</HOMER>

    Enjoy slavery pleb!

    And that would be YOU, dumbass - all too willing to TRUST your fucking government and willingly give up the only real guarantor of your freedom.

    Calling you dumb as a post would be an insult to a post.

    Was elementary school the best decade of your life?

  25. Picture of Xi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make a mask with a picture of Xi on it.
    Let him get the fines.
    Or LOTS of them, hand them out to all your friends. V.

  26. AI facial recognition Chinise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to see this working in real life.... it must be really good facial recognition technology to spot one guy that crossed the street out of over 1 billion.

  27. Re:The fine? Death! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm really not sure why it would matter. Even if one was briefly slightly more painful than the other, you wouldn't be around to think about how agonizing that was in either case. You'd be dead.

  28. Re:IN AZ jwalkers get auto killed by self driving by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Different countries employ different technologies to deal with people that can't follow rules...

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  29. 1984 was never translated in Mandarin/Cantonese? by PmanAce · · Score: 1

    I guess 1984 was never translated in Mandarin/Cantonese/Hunanese?

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  30. What about wearing someone else's face? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Imagine creating a mask of someone you dislike. You can ruin them doing this.

  31. Problem can be solved. Trump knows how. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Death penalty. For jaywalkers. Eventually, no more jaywalking.

  32. One misstep for man, a bigger one for Big Brother by biggaijin · · Score: 1

    One more big step on the road to total surveillance and control. George Orwell would not be surprised, except that it has taken this long. Even the British, with their myriad cameras recording every bit of life haven't yet linked the cameras directly to an enforcement mechanism.

  33. privacy and databases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A couple more quotes of interest from the article:

    “Still, we always need to strike a balance between law enforcement and privacy protection,” Li added.

    [...] authorities can only currently identify 10 per cent of offenders using the AI facial recognition system. Wang said that percentage is expected to surge after the databases of different government departments are set to merged in the near future.

  34. Tomorrow's headline by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mattel Electronics sues China for the name "Intellifusion" which is too damn close to "Intellivision".

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  35. Toilet paper by rojash · · Score: 1

    They already had this in place for those 'stealing' tp from public restroom so this comes as no surprise

  36. John Spartan by unixcorn · · Score: 2

    You have been fined one credit for the violation of the verbal moralaity act......

    1. Re:John Spartan by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

      The future before us is going to find me as a very grumpy old man.

  37. Jaywalk is FEEDOM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Legalize jaywalking. The streets belong to the people not cars. Humans are sovereign. Cars are slaves!!

    STOP CRIMINALIZING JAYWALKING!!!

    1. Re: Jaywalk is FEEDOM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Find your way in front of my car and we're going to play a nice game of pick up your pieces.

    2. Re:Jaywalk is FEEDOM!!! by PPH · · Score: 1

      Get off my street you stinking jaywalker!

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    3. Re: Jaywalk is FEEDOM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'l just find the front of your car with my crowbar.

  38. Re: 1984 was never translated in Mandarin/Cantones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was translated. As a most excellent instruction manual.

  39. Don't carry a cell phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is one more reason to not carry a cell phone.

  40. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more lazy, useless gang members (Cops) we can get off the streets and have robots replace them, the better.

    I for on welcome our robot overlords.

  41. TV Tropes is a pay site by tepples · · Score: 1

    (clicks TV Tropes link)
    (sees Funding Choices message wall asking me to disable the Tracking Protection security feature of Firefox)

    Since when has TV Tropes become a pay site?

    Alternative source for users of Firefox Tracking Protection: "Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking" on All The Tropes

    1. Re:TV Tropes is a pay site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run both an ad blocker and FF tracking protecion and I don't see any of that. Their anti-adblock tech probably sucks.

  42. Re:Problem can be solved. Trump knows how. by PPH · · Score: 1

    They already have this in China. Ever seen some of the gruesome traffic videos?

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  43. Evvvveeerrrryyyybooooodyyy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wang Jun tonight!

  44. Re:1984 was never translated in Mandarin/Cantonese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was, it just went from English -> Mandarin -> Cantonese -> English -> Hunanese. Something got lost in the translation, and I believe there's an unlabelled node '?' which resulted in the net outcome, 'Profit!'

  45. This is a good thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you've lived in China, you'll know what I mean. Sad to tell you, but most Chinese will agree with their government on this one. Too many scumbags on the road.

  46. This isn't working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the Chinese are so strict about their traffic rules, how come every chink behind the wheel here drives so utterly terrible?

  47. This is a great step for society! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The next step is to plant a harmless little Safety chip in peoples brain. This chip would monitor the actions of the people. If it determines that they are taking actions that could potentially harm themselves or others it will automatically immobilize the individual. This would be the final solution to the deplorable problem of J-walking.

    A village or community should work to prevent harm to individuals and the society. Individualism at the expense of the public is a vice, and should be prevented. When public shaming does not work it is necessary for the benevolent community to step in and prevent the harmful actions of an individual.

    Do you know someone who is acting individually at the expense of the community. Be sure to call 9-11 and let the FBI or your local community action network know. The individual might be harming themselves. Safety First. Safety Last. Safety Always. Are you being safe today? If not there is a chip that can help you become the Safe person we know you and your community want you to be

  48. Like it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China is our future. Like it?

    1. Re:Like it? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      CIVIL WAR.

  49. Much safer to jaywalk by mspohr · · Score: 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Studies have shown that removing signals, signs, crosswalks, etc. leads to much safer roads.
    People are more cautious. Rather than roaring through an intersection, they slow down, make eye contact and negotiate their way through the space.
    Also, check out traffic in Hanoi, Viet Nam and Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

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  50. How much longer? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    How much longer are the people of China going to put up with this bullshit? Sounds to me like every year China becomes more and more a total shithole to live in, with the government now literally up their asses 24/7. How can human beings put up with this shit?

    1. Re:How much longer? by Gordo_1 · · Score: 1

      I dunno. How willing would you be to die for the cause of freedom? That's what it takes and people there feel free enough in their daily lives that it doesn't seem worth the effort.

    2. Re:How much longer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About as long as they can put up with having to take their shoes off, be x-rayed or groped and stripped of any liquids when they fly. People put up with these restrictions because the restrictions are not worth fighting a revolution and dying.

    3. Re:How much longer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The citizens have been told that this keeps them safe and that disorder is unsafe. This is taught in schools, by parents, and society enforces it through derision of lawbreakers.

      The same thing happens in China, too.

    4. Re:How much longer? by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Longer than frogs will, apparently.

    5. Re:How much longer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact they have been able to do this up till now and get away with it shows it's nothing like you are claiming it to be.
      How do you Americans put up will all your schoolkids being constantly murdered by psychopaths? When is enough? Wake up! etc etc.

  51. How do I get to my destination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People need to stop driving cars. [...] If there is no train, ask your city planners why there is no train.

    And then what? Walk?

  52. Social credit is real by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    China's social credit system:

    By 2020, everyone in China will be enrolled in a vast national database that compiles fiscal and government information, including minor traffic violations, and distils it into a single number ranking each citizen.

    Chinese are already loving Big Ching.

    It's amazing and terrifying to consider over a billion humans living under this dictatorship driven, Orwellian nightmare of total surveillance and control.

  53. Sounds exploitable. by cyx · · Score: 1

    Slap on a 10-gallon hat with YOUR AD HERE, and go walkin' jays.

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  54. Re:The fine? Death! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More likely the execution van will simply run you over on it's way to it's next batch of criminals.

  55. Identification technology needs help. by aberglas · · Score: 1

    It is one thing to be able to tell if a picture of someone is who they say they are. Or to identify people in a roomful.

    But to accurately identify people with no other information is almost beyond belief. There are lots of people that look almost the same, and women tend to look different every time the change their hair or make up.

    It would not be possible humans to do this, so I am suspicious that it is possible for computers.

    One thought is that tracking mobile phones lets them know who is nearby. Or that an app on the phone using GPS does it -- *everyone* there needs WeChat. Maybe their ID cards can be read at a distance.

    Bu noticing mood, who you are with, collecting and correlating that info. The Chinese are way ahead of us in those technologies, but will probably be happy to sell them to us.

    1. Re:Identification technology needs help. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cameras are everywhere, track you from your house, or from the car you get out of. Build up a database of the places you go. You're not even thinking a little bit.

  56. J&SB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the silent ones you gotta watch out for.

    I'm looking at you Bob!

  57. Re:Problem can be solved. Trump knows how. by RailRide · · Score: 1
    They already have this in China. Ever seen some of the gruesome traffic videos?

    --> 41 minutes of pedestrian pain,

    Not just China. But yeah.(disclaimer: some of these collisions are obviously lethal)

    ---PCJ

  58. Blame CCP Again, Really? by xiaoxin_ch · · Score: 1

    Whenever a story like this pops up, the comment section is flooded with China's big brother plan or evil Xi's control over China. But do you guys have any idea why this technology is necessary to enforce traffic rules in China? Have you tried to cross roads or drive in Chinese cities? You may run into some Chinese tourists in your own country, do you think that they are polite, civilized, and respect your rules or culture? Of course not. If I may quote a Quora user from UK, Chinese are "well-known for cheating tourists; liars and not to be trusted; dirty and slovenly; have no shame; boisterous and hard-drinking", etc. As a native Chinese, I am offended by these comments, but I have to admit that they are facts to certain extent. I assume that you all live in developed countries. You cannot imagine how many ways Chinese have to fail any of your rule-of-law systems. Without technologies like this, the traffic in Chinese cities will always be a total mess.