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Microsoft Is 'Demoting' Windows for the Cloud, Says CNN (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes CNN:
Microsoft is giving Windows a demotion, and leaning into the cloud. CEO Satya Nadella told employees on Thursday that Terry Myerson, leader of the Windows and Devices Group, is leaving the company. "Microsoft has been my work, my team, and my purpose for 21 years," Myerson wrote in a LinkedIn blog post. "It is an emotional day"... The shakeup includes the formation of two new engineering teams that will prioritize Microsoft's cloud and artificial intelligence products -- a move that should make investors happy, said Brad Reback, a software analyst at Stifel. Morgan Stanley said recently that Microsoft could hit $1 trillion in market value within a year, thanks in large part to the strengths of Azure, Microsoft's cloud computing service, and the cloud-based Office 365 software suite... Amy Hood, Microsoft's chief financial officer, said in January that the company's commercial cloud revenue grew 56% year-over-year. In that quarter, Windows commercial products and cloud services sales fell 4%.
Dont need a magic 8 ball to see that one.
I'd have to connect to the internet everytime I want to use windows?
The "cloud" is going nowhere now that mobile is dead. Who still carries around a self imposed ankle bracelet these days?
It should work about as well as Adobe's creative cloud.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I wasn't aware of this product. I guess it's not a surprise that's it's being demoted.
Seriously, how freaking stupid can companies be to think that the "cloud" is the answer? I genuinely don't get it.
Do all of these companies think that everyone has fiber to the house with 1gb/s upload speed?
Do they not understand that most home connections have between 5 and 10mb upload speed and that they data caps? How the fuck should a cloud based system work under such conditions? I assume this would be a comcast wetdream. Think of the overage charges!
Now that NN is dead, they can say.... oh... we see you are using a cloud system.. yeah, you need to pay extra if you want more than 1.5mb/s.
Even here in Europe, where the internet has massively cheaper than what you pay in the states, I still have only a 400mb DL and 20mb UL. Faster isnt even available where I live.
It feels like am waiting forever to put a large file on my onedrive. I usually never use because it is so slow. If the file is like 7 or 8 GB, I would use my works wesendit account and just email myself the DL link to DL from my offsite machine. That is WAY faster than onedrive.
What is "Windows for the Cloud?" Special VPS version?
No, 2019 is the year of the the end of the desktop.
Linux will never be the big desktop OS we have been waiting for. We can hope it will be the Workstation OS of the future. Because we no longer need Desktop PC's. We need Workstations where we can do real work. For the fun stuff we have consoles, and tablets, and mobile devices. Which for most people would be more then enough for their use. A tablet with Office, and a blue tooth keyboard is more then enough for most people.
This is a different condition 10 or 20 years ago, where a PC was needed for nearly any computing event. At that point Linux for the Desktop may had have some real benefit, saving us from countless windows crashes, because pre-xp windows were based off of the MS DOS OS, while XP and up where based off the workstation base NT system. (Windows 2000, wasn't a PC OS but a workstation OS to replace NT 4)
However today we need more serious Linux systems, designed for productivity and taking advantage of the Workstations hardware and graphics, and less trying to appeal to work for grandma, who at this point probably has more computing skills then you do.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I would imagine that they will be "enticing" or migrating all desktop users to their cloud with the goal of eventually eliminating air-gapped desktop functionality and executable / product delivery. Then, once again they'll have free reign to rape and pillage. Service fees for everything, storage, CPU access time, and various "value added services" (like anything more than notebook).
One would think that their user base would wake up after all the bloated, invasive, insecure and underperforming product they've been using or "upgraded" to, but possibly they're just used to it.
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Unlikely. If MS offers Office for Linux then I think you would see mass migration.
But, as it is, that is not going to happen.. likely ever.
If anything, now that Apple is finally starting to support upgrading graphics cards increasing gaming performance, we may see folks switching platforms. Even a lot more hackintosh machines for the DIY man/woman.
I see you're trying to deploy a Docker image to Azure, would you like help with that?
We'll make great pets
Reality check on current Desktop Linux distributions: 1) GPU drivers: Bad 2) Hardware support for peripherals and ability to engage low-power modes for better battery life: Bad 3) Application support: Bad (even open source apps have problems like the latest version not available in the repos even for distro version barely 2 years old. Final Verdict: Nope.
"Microsoft has been my work, my team, and my purpose for 21 years..."
Well, at last you get a chance to do something of significance!
This is great news.
Windows has been a thorn in mine and many other IT professionals and users for decades. It was the glue that tied everything in.
While Windows has certainly improved and should have been this stable back in the late 1990s when Unix already was the lack of innovation was killing the technology market.
With mobile, web, open standards, and free software both Gnu, Apache, MIT, and others (I am not just referring to gcc and Linux) we see a different Microsoft and market. Visual Studio is no longer the crappy blob that everyone has to use and is years behind. The C compiler has caught up thanks to Clang and GCC and Visual Studio now supports clang. Free editors based on node.js such as ATOM.io, Microsoft Code, Adobe's Brackets and ide's that are low cost like XCode and JetBrains have further eroded dependence on unupdated Visual Studio. Ironically MS joined the bandwaggon too with MS Code which like Atom.io is also electron based.
We see Office online and also much better Mac support with versions now for Android and IOS. Visual Studio also has a mac port. It still is a stranglehold but it is at least moving due to competition from Google Docs. .NET core is open sourced and runs well on Linux (not Mono but the real deal) and will be in the next version of Redhat.
IE is now dead for all but legacy apps. MS is moving forward with trying to embrace standards with Edge which surprisingly has an Android version.
Ubuntu, Debian, SuSE, and Kali are available on Windows 10 and soon Windows Server if you need to run some apps which is shocking.
Last, Amazon with it's cloud OS scared MS and the office 365 and MS 365 have some bones and extra things like Dynamics, Planner, SharePoint, Teams and other things which improved MS office and gave access to smaller businesses some of the tools the big boys have with dedicated I.T. departments.
This is not the same Microsoft of 2008 10 years ago.
I am not saying they are an angel, but like IBM and Digital before it once they no longer dictate the market and rather play by it or get beat by it things change rapidly. Apple and Oracle to me all far more evil even though they are not monopolies. It makes me glad the ugly inferior IBM PC and not the Mac won the PC wars. Too bad we had crappy operating systems for several decades though.
WindowsXP showed MS that people HATE change and consumers won't pay for Windows. The world is moving on and even business users will simply not upgrade and keep old versions of products otherwise. So Windows will be here like IBM's zOS but will have less and less of a focus and more of something that comes on a PC. MS will make money for services and consumers will simply not care about the OS and run what they want.
http://saveie6.com/
Have gnu, will travel.
You seem to miss that at least two tablet OSes are basically highly-tailored Linux distributions, locked-down to prevent the end-user from getting to the guts, as a tradeoff trying to maintain a disciplined approach to how applications are to run and interact with the user on the platforms. I'm speaking of Android and ChromeOS.
The vast majority of end users never really needed the down-in-the-trenches approach that early personal computing offered and even arguably required. I suppose that helped contribute to Apple's penetration into the educational market with early Macintoshes, the lack of transparency and ability to tinker with the OS was a downside for computer enthusiasts, but was an advantage to those who didn't care how the underlying device worked, they just wanted to open a program and have it work right. Granted, eventually pre-OSX MacOS got pretty messed up by the end, but for a long time the approach seemed to work well enough.
When I see a tablet, I see the natural evolution of that model for how personal computing works. Hell, tablets even have screens similar in-size to many of those early Macintoshes. There's no digging into the OS, but most people don't want to do that anyway.
I've used Linux for my desktop operating system for the better part of twenty years but I can see why it would be the less desirable option for most people. Even for me it's a headache sometimes as the community fights over things or where development in some major projects stalls or goes off the rails. I put up with it mostly because it was not really any harder than Microsoft's approach back in the day, and because I don't like paying for basic software. For awhile I played with an old Chromebook and Crouton to run a Linux/X11 chroot environment, and it worked pretty well actually. I just wanted more/better than the Chromebook's hardware had to offer, so back to Debian I went.
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... but with lots less innovation. Apple is becoming the new microsoft (smart shirts -even ties- are replacing casual t-shits in keynotes). I guess that something will have to fill the "cool" alternative gap being left by Apple.
Home users don't need Office. They need Wordpad.
At work the only time I have to use Office is for a particular spreadsheet template for mileage reimbursement that's so strangely implemented that it doesn't want to work right in Libreoffice. Even pivot tables work properly in Libre, I've done a lot of complex spreadsheets in that program that are entirely interoperable with Excel.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Clould computing is another way of saying. Mainframe computing. Turning over your data for some honest company to manage. Yes lets all go back to dumb terminals. No I don,t think so.
Long live stand alone computing.
Sailfish OS and Tizen (rather obscure, I know) are also mobile systems based on Linux.
Circumcision is child abuse.
This sounds like the plan Ken Olsen of Digital had in mind with terminals connected to a central computer system - a VAX using a smart terminal. His famous statement in 1977 was, "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." This of course could be expanded to the workplace. The question will be what kind of smart terminal will be necessary to use Microsoft's Azure or any other similar system at work or even ro do computing at home? The only local storage might be just enough to enable the boot up of the terminal and enough RAM to run multiple apps simultaneously. The app software and the OS bits might not even be stored on the terminal. Is this a full blown PC or a less capable smart terminal with a graphical user interface? This suggests conversion to a true computing as a service paradigm, not just software as a service, but for the whole ball of wax.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
There's no digging into the OS, but most people don't want to do that anyway.
This is one of the biggest concerns I have about current trends in tech. Making systems simpler, easier to use and more secure is all good, but we're also losing the ability for average users to explore and automate and make their computers into tools and not merely platforms to run software that someone else wrote.
I've seen the look on the face of someone who isn't a "programmer" but has just learned some basic scripting that let them turn a regular all-morning job into a regular ten-minute job. It's a delight. But it only works if they have the ability to write those scripts and a basic understanding of how computers work so they can see what to do.
How is the next generation going to learn what computers can really do and how to take advantage of it to achieve benefits we haven't even thought of yet, if their computer has more power than anything any of us learned with and fits in their pocket, yet has no readily available programming tools so they can experiment and learn?
Computers can do far more to help us than just accessing social networks and watching Netflix, but we're in danger of dumbing them down and locking them down so much that this is all a whole generation will see.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
Is it Concur? That program uses some VBA glue that talks to their servers to populate the data.
http://saveie6.com/
LOL. It has been going back to this since 1997 with the start of the early web and Novel Netware and ethernet.
Yes the Mainframe is the computer. The difference is Amazon and MS are the new mainframe gods you use to connect to your systems. People baulked at the cost of the IBM mainframe and switched to VAX or even mainframe-less environments to cut costs for simple things like spreadsheets, email, and word processing.
Funny is the needs of a large centralized system never went away. These simple tools and files became essential and managers needed a way to manage them viola a netware and later NT file mapped drive. Active directory, and last now this to manage.
What goes around comes around. What is interesting is the cloud was a way to manage websites originally. Not PC programs or operating systems. It grown into that.
http://saveie6.com/
..but it's an essential part of computing infrastructure
It must be preserved and updated
If MS doesn't want to do this, they should release it to the open source world
We need Workstations where we can do real work. For the fun stuff we have consoles, and tablets, and mobile devices.
The statistics don't really support that, if you look at the platform comparison at StatCounter it's 52% mobile, 44% desktop and 4% console/tablet web browsing. And the last one is down from about 5% last year. At work we don't need workstations, but laptops sure. My parents need their 24"+ monitors because their vision is getting poor. I need my gaming box for gaming. There's lots of people that won't be properly served by smartphones and a tablet. The problem is that there's nobody really making a push for it, either they want you to stay on proprietary platforms or move to the cloud. Which would make Linux just an open source client/shell while all the data/processing moves out of your control, it's like out of the frying pan and into the fire. It's the independent, local computer that's dying, everything else is moving to become tentacles of centralized services.
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We're doing it. We're a small business that uses some in-house servers. But, we'd rather not have to manage them and deal with (very very very rare) hardware problems. We're moving our business rule software into Azure, with local redundant servers for when the Internet goes down. It also eliminates the need to tie all of our locations together via (occasionally fragile) VPN's.
I don't respond to AC's.
If raising their market cap is all they're after, they should just start a crypocurrency. Worked for everyone else.
If you are a pure MS shop, then it may work better for you, BUT, if you have RHEL or other linux servers, get ready for a bit of hell trying to get things to work.
If you must go to the cloud, and use anything besides MS windows, you should probably consider AWS if that is a choice you can take.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
e problems like the latest version not available in the repos even for distro version barely 2 years old.
You know there are distros other than debian right?
Because we no longer need Desktop PC's. We need Workstations where we can do real work.
They're the same thing. A workstation is a desktop in a corporate environment. There are hundreds of millions of people using desktop computers in small businesses or at home. I use one to write up contracts and estimates and bills, to produce diagrams for work, to edit photos and pages for my website...
Anyone who merely does as much as working occasionally with office software needs a desktop because nothing else is ergonomically suitable. You *can* edit photos and write docs on a phone. That doesn't make it a replacement for a fullscale computer.
Why do I get the feeling that there will be a “fun” version of Windows with loot boxes. There’s already one with micro transactions (ie. Solitaire).
The irony is that this doubling down by Microsoft on the cloud comes right after recent legislation that is the driving companies like Reddit (closing down subreddits), Microsoft (cracking down on skype free speech), Amazon (shutting their music storage service down, even for music you legitimately bought through them), Facebook, etc. to scatter their bits and bytes to the wind. And, as a result it is making users less trusting of cloud and remote services. An argument can be made that they shouldn't have trusted them in the first place, though.
Thanks for your comment.
Perhaps this is what's going on in the computing paradigm for K -12 education in the US. Google's efforts in this area with the Chrome OS and very inexpensive laptops and now Apple's iPad initiative. At least Chrome machines have a keyboard attached. Both efforts have or will have the support back end with Web based servers, software tools for content generation and other management requirements. Some folks with minimal computing and communication needs have also adopted the Chrome OS paradigm. It's not a short leap to imagine this jumping to much more powerful systems for heavy duty sophisticated business and home computing. Computing as a service is on its way.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
That is the direction Microsoft is going. No longer do you buy an OS; you rent your OS and everything is tied to their servers. The future is going towards a rift where the major players all rent you their OS, and smaller players (Linux, etc.) allow you to still "own" your OS.
It's a big opportunity for Linux, but it's going to require leadership from major Linux-based companies to prove why they're a better option. User security/privacy and customization may be the main selling points, and with all the data breaches the time is ripe.
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I don't know if I'd count tizen. Tizen is an k-6 school project to see if they could design the most insecure mobile OS. Or at least it must be, because of how it's written.
Which is what most companies do.
tldr: Greedy fucks
You hit the nail on the head. The vast majority of consumers and professional workers who use computers do not care about the OS or tinkering with it. Itâ(TM)s the last thing they want to do. I was born in 81 and by the time I got interested in computing it was the DOS / Windows 3.11 era. I used to love tinkering. Now I am 36, work in IT and the last thing I want to do is come home and have to tinker with my own devices.
That is why, for personal use, I reside in the Apple ecosystem. It is expensive, I will be the first to admit that, but for me my personal time is more important than money so I am willing to pay top dollar for computers and devices that just work. No tinkering required.
For home, Google Docs. But I really hate the paradigm of Gmail where there isnâ(TM)t sub folders to put email in, rather tagging instead. Thatâ(TM)s why will forever use Outlook. Though for true MS Exchange integration for contacts and calendar, Office 365 is where itâ(TM)s at. That, or just stick with Outlook.com (not to be confused for the client app) for webmail.
All in all, itâ(TM)s hard to beat free. But as the ol saying goes, you get what you pay for.
I agree with you 100%. I keep trying to get people at work to just use the gmail webmail, but the lack of real folders kills them.
It really creates an incentive to drop gmail and switch email to o365. If Skype for Business wasn't such complete crap as a webex replacement, Microsoft would be unstoppable.
Computers and devices that just work?
No airflow pile of shit which gets a faulty chipset liek the traschan AMD fiasco and then leaves the customer in the gutter for 2 years before being forced into finally providing a repair program.
That's your idea of just work?
-2007
When the 15" MacBook Pro had a frame with hinges attached to it instead of them sensibly being attached to a backplate, so they constantly broke like paperclips.
Apple experience and quality.
-2008
When the graphics chips were dying on all the Apple computers. Apple was forced to help by a class action lawsuit. How that worked? They put an Apple diagnostic disc into your computer to decide whether they may or may not help you, based on whether the test passes. Of course, it can't work if you don't have a fucking functional graphics chip.
Apple experience and quality.
-2009
"Unibody" 15" MacBook Pro. Except it was made out of 2 pieces stuck together with adhesive. Not only that, it was so well designed with such build quality, the fan exhausting the heat these MacTurd Pros built up, was positioned to exhaust into the adhesive directly. End result: Computers falling apart everywhere.
Apple experience and quality.
-2010
A1286 model with the 2850 board, which was failing because the sensors would keep the fans at 1000 RPM when FinalCut Pro was rendering and running a video for 20 minutes straight.
Apple experience and quality.
-2011
820-2915 board comes out. Throttling the CPU out of the box with no dust, at 70 fahrenheit room temp. A $2000 machine, throttling and functioning worse than a shitty $300 Acer at that time.
Apple experience and quality.
-~2010
iPhone 4 comes out. $600 phone that you could not hold in your hand without dropping a call. Apple is not at fault, it's your fault for not holding the phone correctly on your fucking face!!!
Apple experience and quality.
>your Apple computer is stolen
Apple service policy: Doesn't allow them to give the phone number of the owner to the FUCKING POLICE, when the computer is found, has the Find My Mac software and info, and is reported stolen!
Apple users: The wife that gets beaten daily by the husband, calls it "love".
A widely misunderstood quote. Olsen was talking about home automation -- a computer controlling the home.
Circumcision is child abuse.
In 2010, Nancy Gohring reported in Infoworld, Ballmer bets Microsoft's future on the cloud.. "'Seventy percent of the 40,000 people who work on software at Microsoft are in some way working in the cloud,' CEO Steve Ballmer said Thursday at the University of Washington. 'A year from now, that will be 90 percent,' he said.... 'Our inspiration, our vision ... builds from this cloud base,' he said. 'This is the bet, if you will, for our company.'"
I think there was similar rhetoric years earlier than that.
The Microsoft "Kin" phones lacked features normally implemented locally on phones, and Microsoft said that was going to be fine because modern-day young phone users were comfortable with relying on the cloud....
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
Actually guys I was joking. I am a solid windows user in a love/hate (more hate) relationship, but I need it for the ecosystem.
..."We've found a way to make you pay again for Windows every month!"
I didn't know that about the Olsen quote. Maybe Olsen was very, very way ahead of his time. I'm thinking of the HUGE increase in the use of Internet of Things technology that seems to be ubiquitous. Most of these devices aren't used for general computing, though they all probably have some kind of computing (microprocessor?) hardware in them and some have video graphics displays. I mean, they aren't used for word processing or spreadsheet generation. Oh, wait..., many IOT devices have a voice interface and could easily be used for text generation. Spreadsheets might take some more time.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Tizen is obscure like IoT is obscure
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
If you can't abstract your systems away from a particular cloud provider you have no business in the cloud.
OpenStack and CloudFoundry come to mind. If it can't be deployed on Pivotal Cloud Foundry in a few minutes send your devs back to the drawing board.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Nobody cares about "rolling release" bleeding-edge distros, and redhat is not immune despite EPEL. Meanwhile I can run VLC on my 7-year old Windows 7 netbook.
So you haven't built yourself a workstation? I don't like messing with barriers and problems, that is why I build my workstation from scratch and run bleeding edge Windows 10. No tinkering required.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Try a 40" 4K 60Hz TV for a monitor. They will love it. I have been running a 49" TCL Roku TV 24" from my face and it has eliminated any visual strain. Highly suggest touch screen if you can swing it. I would love to play Age of Empires 3/4/Definitive on a large touch screen. A workout.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Home users can hop on shitty Google Docs and bang our stuff for free.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Yeah. Somebody has to get Skype together. It is still playing out like your typical Microsoft acquisition of old. Languishing under technical issues and ease of use.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Thanks for your comment.
Perhaps this is what's going on in the computing paradigm for K -12 education in the US. Google's efforts in this area with the Chrome OS and very inexpensive laptops and now Apple's iPad initiative. At least Chrome machines have a keyboard attached. Both efforts have or will have the support back end with Web based servers, software tools for content generation and other management requirements. Some folks with minimal computing and communication needs have also adopted the Chrome OS paradigm. It's not a short leap to imagine this jumping to much more powerful systems for heavy duty sophisticated business and home computing. Computing as a service is on its way.
The argument from how I see it is not that hey I am a home user as I don't need this complexity. The early PCs were a form of this in the office where someone just needed work done on Lotus 123.
The problem is both the data and software is scattered and is complex. Google Docs made collaboration and stored information from Google a reality. Office 2016 and then Office 365 followed suit. True not everyone needs sharepoint or exchange online. But you use data off someone elses box anyway is how I see it.
So MS is saying you can have that too and can manage more if you pay us rather than charging for Windows which know one pays for anymore. Even k - 12 LOVE Chromebooks for collaboration.
http://saveie6.com/
I feel like I need to go underground and join this odd Creimer cult to find out what is really going on around here. At first it was funny. Funny as hell. But after a while it just got weird.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Fuck off, you stupid gamer.
Hi Chris! Is this the stealth sockpocket you use on weekends?
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> They need Wordpad.
They need more than that since M$ prevents any spell checker from being used.
Don't want something like Windows XP to happen again... a terrible thing to happen to M$.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- HST
The Open University (large distance Ed. uni in the UK) recently shifted all its student and faculty accounts from Google Docs to MS Office. I'm assuming that most faculty don't want to learn to use anything other than MS Office and whichever domain specific software they use, e.g. SPSS, InVivo, and/or R. Google Docs is probably too much of a change in UI/UX for them to tolerate so it makes sense to stay with MS Office and use essentially the same thing online and stop buying/renewing MS Office licences for however many thousands of desktop and laptop PCs/Macs they're using. I wonder how many other large organisations/institutions are switching?
I'm a (Linux) Grsync and LibreOffice user so none of this affects me. Restoring backups from a USB3 HDD is easier and faster than cloud backup. Also bear in mind that it's wise to keep local backups in case you somehow lose access to your cloud account or your provider decides to change the fees and/or rules against your interests. Makes cloud backups/storage look a bit expensive and redundant in this light.
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
It's a con-job and you're dumb if you fall for it.
Heh. My most recent purchase is a Dell XPS 13, equipped the same as the Developer Edition models but bought through Costco 'cause it was like $500 less than buying a factory-loaded Developer Edition model. Got the one with the extremely high res touchscreen and everything. I had looked into the Apple Macbook Pro, but if I wanted the model with all of the USB-C ports then I had to have that stupid touchbar with no more physical escape key. That was unacceptable. When I was using an older MacBook I used it like I use Linux boxes, which is to have a lot of terminal windows open. I was not about to lose having a physical escape key.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
It's possible to use labels in a fashion similar to folders.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
and Windows for Waman.
Damping absorbs vibrations. Dampening is caused by moisture.
"Microsoft has actually been moving away from Windows and more towards the cloud, analytics and AI for the past ten years,"
Welcome to the club buddy, you are not the only one moving away from Windows. Not so sure about that cloud thing tho.
Close, but some actions like archiving old data and nested folders don’t work cleanly.
Finally the unwashed masses will be able to legitimately blame their Internet provider for their computer not being able to boot up.
IP law
"There are a dozen opinions on a matter until you know the truth. Then there is only one." - CS Lewis (paraprhase)
Looking at market share, any mobile system that is not Android or iOS counts as obscure.
Circumcision is child abuse.
But in terms of an OS there need to differentiate between the two. Windows, OS X and Gnome have been focused on personal use, with real work as a side effect. A workstation OS is about being efficient and getting the most out of the computer.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
tablets suck at multi tasking, dont come with 8gig ram, dont accept SDcards, they suck
Coding just rocks better using super large 4k screens / 24" LCDs.
Who has to move to new services? Nothing old stopped working.
Stop thinking you have to use the latest shit, your latest shit will be obsolete in 24 months so
why bother.
I do really well on predicting things over the past 40 years. I predict Windows on the desktop will go away and Linux will take over. It's inevitable. Windows is crap and they can't secure it because of the underlying OS. Even network I/O is at least half as efficient as a Linux stack. They're simply outclassed and they know it. It's band aids on top of bubble gum on top of rubber bands... and so on. She's going to blow! I think Nedella realizes this and wants to just dump that crap. Move it over to Linux like they should have done 20 years ago when I predicted it. They should have sold the Windows OS to IBM for say a billion, ported office over to Linux and left IBM holding the bag like they did with OS2. Trust lawsuit goes away, everyone is happy except IBM, again.
Seen many posts about how bad an idea this is because consumer connections are still too slow. Yeah, and you think MS is so stupid that they haven't thought of that?
Read between the lines.
Other than the XBox and Windows, what products do they sell to consumers, anymore? Surface? It never really took off with consumers. What else?
MS is finally giving up on the consumer sector. They don't care about your slow, home connection. All they care about is the speedy business connection you use and all the cloud services you connect to over it -- while at work.
Azure is the only part of MS's business that is growing. Everything else is shrinking. It's their one bet to try and remain relevant, to maybe one day again be included on the list of "tech companies."
at least two tablet OSes are basically highly-tailored Linux distributions
And THIS is an illustration of why Linux, per se, will never be a mainstream desktop OS.
What is it that sets these two successful OSes apart from standard Linux distros? It's not the technology! They really don't offer much that you can't do on a Linux distro.
The difference is polish and packaging, along with plenty of marketing.
Face it, Linux distros are not as highly polished as a commercial OS. This will never change, because Linux fans want lots of options, they want to be able to customize their system to work according to their own preferences (Emacs vs. Vim anyone?) This is exactly what technically challenged people DON'T want. They just want it to work.
Microsoft has lost my trust. Sitting down at a Windows 10 PC (Or Office) feels like the computer is an enemy. Distrust of the O/S and other Microsoft products is overwhelming so much that quite a few of us can't use Windows 10 other than testing.
Microsoft - Steals your data / usage data whether you like it or not - User-Hostile.
Microsoft - Forces spying updates. User-Hostile.
Microsoft - Forces combined updates. User-Hostile and Hateful.
Microsoft - Doesn't tell you what's in the updates any more. User-Hostile, Hateful and Evil.
Microsoft - Makes it Difficult to find out the information you need to find out - particular what's in updates that go in YOUR computer. Beyond evil.
Microsoft - Thinks your computer is there's to do with what they want. Super Evil.
Microsoft - Installs software automatically on your windows machine without your consent or knowledge. When Duolingo showed up on my start menu I wiped the drive. This is called "Auto installation of sponsored apps". This is a user-hateful feature.
Microsoft - Takes away user choice.
Microsoft - Creates a crappy GUI that makes it much hard to do things. This dual window style is stupid and beyond stupid. It's not intuitive, keyboard keys don't work any more and it's like a 5 year old designed it. There's NO common sense and you get less done because you can't find what you need.
Microsoft - Forces people to use Microsoft accounts so they can gather yet more data about you and make money. This is NOT for the user's benefit and is extremely hateful.
Microsoft - Forced Cortana an easier way to steal your data.
Microsoft - Can change the cloud, lock you out, learn more about you and control you via the Microsoft account.
Over all Microsoft has become a user-hostile company not to be trusted.
Someone bought Office, went through the stupid stupid concept of creating a Microsoft account to redeem the office code. Account was locked immediately after. Microsoft now had the product they paid for hostage.
Microsoft can never be trusted.