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Trump Says He Wants Skilled Migrants But Creates New Hurdles (apnews.com)
An anonymous reader shares an Associated Press report: It may be a while before President Donald Trump gets another chance at creating a new, "merit-based" immigration system, a keystone of his four-part plan that Congress rejected last month. In the meantime, his administration is busy making it harder, not easier, for skilled migrants to come work in the United States. The State Department has ended an Obama-era program to grant visas to foreign entrepreneurs who want to start companies in the United States. It is more aggressively scrutinizing visas to skilled workers from other countries. And it is contemplating ending a provision that allows spouses of those skilled workers to be employed in the U.S.
The administration and its backers contend it's trying to fix flaws in the existing, employer-centric skilled immigration system while advocating for a complete overhaul of America's immigration system. "The stuff that they're actually doing is not so much restricting skilled immigration as enforcing the law," said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports reducing immigration. "They're rolling back some of the extralegal measures that other administrations have taken." A primary avenue for skilled immigrants to enter the United States is the H1B visa for specialty workers, which is heavily used by the technology industry. About 85,000 visas are issued annually in a lottery system. Some critics argue they are a way for companies to avoid hiring U.S. citizens; Trump himself has said H1B recipients shouldn't even be considered skilled. Further reading: On Easter Sunday, Trump threatens to end DACA and 'stop' NAFTA.
The administration and its backers contend it's trying to fix flaws in the existing, employer-centric skilled immigration system while advocating for a complete overhaul of America's immigration system. "The stuff that they're actually doing is not so much restricting skilled immigration as enforcing the law," said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports reducing immigration. "They're rolling back some of the extralegal measures that other administrations have taken." A primary avenue for skilled immigrants to enter the United States is the H1B visa for specialty workers, which is heavily used by the technology industry. About 85,000 visas are issued annually in a lottery system. Some critics argue they are a way for companies to avoid hiring U.S. citizens; Trump himself has said H1B recipients shouldn't even be considered skilled. Further reading: On Easter Sunday, Trump threatens to end DACA and 'stop' NAFTA.
Good.
Almost had me there.
which is pretty hilarious as trump marries foreigners and has had a lot of anchor babies with them.
Interesting! So since nearly every single country on this planet restricts immigration and makes getting a job nearly impossible without being a legal resident, does that mean the governments and leaders of each and every country are xenophobes?
Or do you restrict your criticism to only major white countries. Just making sure you are not the racist one.
We want people with actual skills and not the criminal rejects scraped off the shitholes.
Just like every other country defines in their immigration policies!
Why can't we?
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While he may say he wants skilled workers, the truth is that he's working toward isolationism because that is what his extremist political base wants. Furthermore, the president himself doesn't really have any real positions with the exception that he's great and wants praise. The only thing that matters to this eternally waffling president is his own ego.
The real shame here is that a certain political party refused to even speak out against this farce of a president (much less impeach) and have now become the party of extremism as a result.
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I'm sure you would pay extra taxes to pay for all that stuff you want and others don't.
We have computers. We can have fine grained tax control easily.
Oh you want open borders? YOU pay for it.
Oh you want to give welfare to the lazy and useless? YOU pay for it.
Time to stop making other people pay for your demands. Put your money where your mouth is.
If he cracks down on H1B abuse, that's a good thing in both the short and the long run, regardless of what the vested interests that are big media and big tech have to say on the subject. And given past reporting on the economics of H1B, it is fair to say that much of the program is abuse. Good on Trump.
As to the rest of it...that's right: Congress needs to change the law in order for the law to be changed. I understand why this may come as unexpected news given the previous administration's looser interpretation of the separation of powers and big media's unabashed cheerleading of that loose interpretation but it is indeed the case that if we want merit-based immigration, then we need to change the law from what we have now to what we would like to have.
Enforcing the letter of the existing laws to highlight their inadequacy is about the only thing the President can do to force the issue. That's what happened with terminating DACA. The lefties couldn't stomach actually having to vote on amnesty for an ever-changing and open-ended number of illegal immigrants so they sued in a friendly court where an Obama-appointed judge made the curious ruling that the Trump administration could not terminate DACA on the grounds of its illegality because only a court could find something illegal. We'll see what sort of contortions the left will make in their inevitable court challenge. Perhaps they will find a judge who is willing to rule that only even-numbered presidents may issue executive orders while odd-numbered presidents are obliged to keep on enforcing them, on the grounds that no one wants odd governance and an even-handed approach is more mathematically beautiful.
Cite? Immigration laws and regulations tend to be very particular about what kind of degree you need. And even STEM PhDs can be turned down if they don't have the right skillset/publication record.
Trump wants to make it harder for low skilled temporary workers to come the United States. Trump wants to make it easier for high skilled immigrants to come to the United States... which is something different.
The amount of capital B, grade A Bullshit you have to deal with with screening Americans is bad enough. The amount of fraud you get from the developing world is just unbelievable. "Why yes, I have 20 years of experience with writing Hadoop applications in Go with a UI written in Rust."
Oh really, it say you graduated from a diploma mill 3 years ago...
Currently, H1B visas are being abused by the employers. They have, effectively, a slave. Complain, get fired, lose your visa. It's a simple fix. Tie the H1B visa to the worker, not to the company. Make it easy for the visa holder to change jobs. It shouldn't be any more difficult than updating an online form with new employment information. This will eliminate the worst of the abusers. One other change I would make. H1B visa holders should be barred from working for a contracting company.
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Immigration is a lot like the war on drugs. Fighting it just creates more, even worse problems than it solves. Having a sensible policy that gives people a chance to immigrate legally and fairly, managed so that it doesn't adversely affect people already there, is good for everyone.
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You're saying he didn't sit down with Pelosi and Schumer to try to work out a deal?
Is that the deal he worked out and then reneged on the next morning? Because if that's how you are framing your argument, you need to find a new one.
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It's amazing to me how nothing whatsoever counts as evidence against the xenophobia theory. It's almost like you guys use that as an excuse to attack anyone who doesn't give you what you want.
The illegal aliens are mostly from countries south of the Mexican border. Mexico only maintains a 'loose' southern border with the understanding that people who come north across it will keep going north and leave Mexico to enter the US. They have VERY strict laws that they enforce to keep illegal imigrants from taking jobs in Mexico.
We should stop the illegals from crossing into the US. And people here illegally who came through Mexico should be dumped across the border to let Mexico deal with them.
Nobody is a "rocket surgeon". At some point you have to admit that a university degree is an IQ test.
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Don't tell Trump this. His businesses hire lots of immigrants, legal and otherwise.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/...
[Note: this article is from last month]
You are welcome on my lawn.
The State Department has ended an Obama-era program to grant visas to foreign entrepreneurs who want to start companies in the United States.
Because Obama did it. Someone who wanted bright, energetic people who wanted to better themselves and their community must be stopped. Especially since Obama wanted them to come to this country.
Meanwhile, we'll continue to allow the EB-5 visa program to remain even though it is essentially the same thing. The only difference is with EB-5, the money would flow to family members in this corrupt administration.
And the US has a great immigration policy, basically you have to be able to earn enough income in order to pay taxes (so 75k/y and up) or be somehow related to a US citizen (by birth or by marriage) and then you're very welcome in the US. I've done it, it's not hard, it takes about a half year to three years depending on your circumstances.
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Difference between immigration and an invasion;
Immigration; people come into a country to have a better life. They adopt the host countries flag, language and attitude.
Invasion: people come into a weaker more compassionate country to prey on its weak peoples. They force the weaker people to assume the flag, attitud3s and language of the more virile conquering people.
An invasion should always be opposed.
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You think theyÃ(TM)re doing it for any other reason than they dislike or distrust people from different cultures?
Racism is entirely orthogonal to the sociopath's quest to obtain and secure power and influence; it is, however, extremely useful for controlling the thoughts and feelings of idiots of all races.
Oh and by the way... you're dumber than fuck.
For a country built on immigration in the relatively recent past, and where the employment route makes you an indentured servant, it doesn't seem that easy or fair.
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And also imports their parents, don't forget the chain immigration.
The GP is saying that Trump's only position is to pander to his base, with stunts like the wish list drempt up by his staff. Staff who he later fired.
If you need to be obtuse and create a straw man then it seems you actually know this to be true.
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You're talking about dreamers. The liberal position on dreamers is that they should get to stay. The conservative position on dreamers is also that they should get to stay.
What is the Liberal position on immigration, and how will that position benefit America?
Birth rates are declining in the West as a whole. (Look at Europe, Russia and the classic case of Japan.) Even some of the states in India have stabilized. For economy to keep growing you need more consumers. Immigration helps that. (Unless you want folks of your own skin color.) Any counter argument about jobs being lost - at least today you have the least unemployment in decades.
May be you can make a case about "when automation comes they immigrants will be a financial burden". I guess a huge subset of the population will require some sort of UBI.
Canada has a sensible (you can call it progressive as well) immigration policy. They take in 1% of their population - about 350K migrants - an year. (I was a Canadian immigrant once, now an American immigrant.) For an American immigrant, your primary identity is of an American, and that's the whole point of United States of America.
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The vast majority of H1B workers are far from exceptional.
Why does the H1B specifically allow replacing an American worker, with a cheaper H1B?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/09/schumer-pelosi-say-trumps-immigration-demands-cant-be-serious.html
"The top Democrats in the Senate and House criticized those terms, saying they strayed from the outlines of a deal they discussed with Trump last month. Democrats had said Trump would not insist on border wall funding in an agreement to shield roughly 800,000 young immigrants from deportation. "
> The whole idea if merit based immigration is based on the false racist assumption that somehow those classified as belonging to a White race are superior
No it is not. Please stop lying.
Not unlike all of the celebs who threatened to move to Canada should Trump win. Always it's about moving to a predominantly white country, rather than a mostly brown one to the South with a lower cost of living.
The H1B program is designed to replace Americans with cheaper offshore workers.
Unlike most visas, the H1B specifically allows companies to replace Americans with cheaper H1Bs, even if the American worker is doing a good job.
The program is a complete scam.
that's all i want to say as a supportive example.
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The most significant part of this is an intent to prevent spouses from working.
The most common reason for failure (i.e. return to origin country) of expatriation or immigration of skilled workers is the partner being unhappy. For people from most developed countries, their husband or wife also expects a career - the time of househusbands or even housewives living on a one income family and being happy about that is over. In academia, this is known as the two-body problem: if you hire an academic from another country, there are two bodies to please, not just one.
So if Trump makes it impossible to get a work permit for a spouse when a highly skilled migrant moves to the USA, all those from countries where men and women have approximate equality will just not come. Try telling your partner you're moving to different country for a great professional opportunity but they can't work when they're there, so they have to give up their career and can't start another job or another occupation. It won't go well for most of you, and that's particularly true if you're higher skilled and globally mobile because such people tend to have partners or spouses who are also higher skilled and globally mobile.
Of course, this won't discourage people who are in large company H1B visa schemes used to supply more generic mid-skilled workers for contracts in the USA, especially as they are usually younger and less likely to have spouses and children.
But the university professors, top engineering talent, top management talent - that will all go "My wife can't work? My husband has to lose his career? No thanks - I'll take that job in another country instead." Trump won't understand or even notice, but universities, tech corporations, engineering corporations, and even orchestras will notice.
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which is pretty hilarious as trump marries foreigners and has had a lot of anchor babies with them.
Not anchor babies. Trump is a natura lborn citizen, Trumps marries them, and gets their residency visas.
Great post! A clear point shored up by verifiable facts, a clean suggestion of policy, and reference to a working example.
I would mod that up in a heartbeat - please continue to post on slashdot, we need more people like you!
And an idiot will always be an idiot. Trump isn't even calling for the exact same immigration standards as say, Canada.
This is why the left has failed and why the capitalist class has won. Idiots like this poster feed the flame of the working class turning to nationalism by making every sensible reform "racism".
Teachers in West Virginia went on strike, teachers in Oklahoma and Kentucky are going to strike because they do not get paid enough. Companies want more profit so they push for reduced taxes and lower wages. This removes a tax base for paying teachers.
It is cheaper to hire workers from with $8000 university degrees and no student loans than to pay taxes to support education.
The H-1B program was started in 1996 as a temporary solution for tech shortages. 22 years later there is still a tech work shortage because America schools are getting the funding they need to produce low cost education for the young people in America.
So you're saying that he didn't make his position clear about immigration before the election? Or after the election?
Correct because he doesn't have a position. What he has is the position of playing to whatever his base wants.
You're saying he didn't sit down with Pelosi and Schumer to try to work out a deal?
No, he didn't. What he did was sit down with Schumer and work to not make a deal to so that the government would shut down. He then proceeded to message that Democrat didn't care and the government shutdown was entirely their doing. He even bragged that he was going to do that back in September.
You're saying he didn't send a 70-point immigration wish-list to congress right before the Omnibus bill?
He sent a wish list but he really doesn't care one way or the other, as long as it's what his extreme-right base wants. If they were insisting on amnesty for all illegal immigrants then he would have sent a wish list about that.
You're making shit up. The truth is... you're making shit up.
I'd be laughing if this wasn't such a serious situation. Our president is a malignant narcissist and doctors have been trying to warn you.
This is a standard liberal practice - just make shit up about the other side and then say how bad that shit is.
Now that is rich. If you look at the situation objectively then you would see that the White House is in chaos and our president is guilty of many very serious felonies. There isn't a special council appointed when everything is fine.
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On the relative past that didn't have a social safety net. Immigration during the time you speak of amounted to "Welcome to America. If you can do it yourself, good job. If not you will die and no one cares."
Indentured servant is also the route for citizens via student loans? What is the problem and how is that different for the average American? If you can't make it on your own you shouldn't be given access. Anyone granted citizenship is given many more privileges and rights than the cost and troubles from where they came from. Why else would they want to come here?
it'll marginally raise the wages but it won't eliminate the main reason companies want H1-Bs: zero training. They don't even have to maintain the school system anymore. Other countries do it for them. Worse, those countries churn out employees with highly specialized skills. When tech changes those employees either fall by the wayside or they work 90/hr/week on their own time/dime to keep their skills current.
You'd need to increase the cost of an H1-B by a factor of 5-10x to account for the full scope of training (well funded and subsidized high schools and colleges, continual uptraining during working hours, extra employees to cover while you're out training, etc, etc).
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Having populations sitting around and unable to integrate with the country they are in or find legal livelihoods is a problem in a lot of places, and lots of them handle it a whole lot worse than the US does. Unfortunately, the AC above seems to want to use that as an excuse, and makes it pretty obvious that he's bomb throwing by reaching for the phrase "major white countries," which is not the least bit subtle. Also unfortunately, it looks like the Breitbart crowd has taken over moderation duties, as they would be the folks sympethetic towards this sort of "insight".
One of the worst manifestations of this problem is stateless people, which still exist even in places like Europe, even if they shouldn't by their own laws. Obviously it is also huge problem in the Middle East, and has been a compounding problem for a long time in large part due to the various wars dating back at least to the mid 20th-century wars against the Israelis and continuing to today with the Libyan and Syrian wars displacing large numbers of people as refugees.
Again unfortunately, the answer for this sort of problem that the alt-right and Trump folks seem to provide is the essentially the answer for the homeless that is routinely and roundly mocked on South Park: just send them elsewhere!
there's been a lot of job losses to immigration. Yes, immigrants contribute heavily to the economy, but unless you own your own business employing those immigrants you're not benefiting from that. Now with our supply side economic system. Maybe if we had single payer healthcare, a fully funded social security and a proper safety net you'd there's be a point. But for the vast majority of native born workers the immigrants don't help, they hurt.
Ignoring that fact is what got Trump into the Whitehouse. It's why the Dems keep losing seats (1000 in the last 8 years) in all major government races. Right now both parties are heavily in favor of whatever helps the mega corps most. That means supply side economics, low taxes, war profiteering and cuts to social services.
All of these things mean a winner take all economy where the only determining factor in your quality of life is your job. And therefore anything that gets in the way of a good job is pretty much the worst thing ever. It's a twisted system to be sure, but we're not accomplishing anything by failing to acknowledge the reality of it and writing people off as xenophobes.
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points out that they've contributed billions but may never reap the benefits. Just like everybody in this country...
Seriously, if you want people to stop fighting immigration you need to make it so that some of the wealth they generate makes it into their hands too. Right no immigrants contribute a lot to the economy but all that wealth winds up concentrated at the top.
What I"m saying is this: Kicking the immigrants out will hurt a sector of the economy that your average Trump voter is completely isolated from (Wallstreet mostly). Meanwhile their entire quality of life is dependent on getting jobs. Fewer immigrants means more demand for their labor. That's just supply and demand. They're making a perfectly rational decision given a completely irrational world.
tl;dr. Fix our screwed up supply side economic system or expect more twisted distortions like this.
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so I don't think he'll be doing it, so no worries there. But there's an easy solution to the problem you raised: Pay an H1-B 5x-10x the prevailing wage. If they really do have skills critical to the company that no American has or can be trained to have in a reasonable time then that's not a bad deal. It needs to be that high or the money savings from zero training and the ability to work them longer hours maintain the imbalance.
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If you look at the western hemisphere, the US has the most restrictive, the most slow immigration process, and particularly make it very hard to be a political/war refugee.
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Muslim isn't a race, you fucking imbecile. It's a religious and political ideology. It is not above criticism, and it is demonstrably incompatible with a free society.
I assume that the rest of what you said was also mindless bullshit and brainwashed sniveling white guilt, so I did not read it.
The truth is... you're making shit up.
This is a standard liberal practice - just make shit up about the other side
I like how you twisted the discussion to be us vs them. The other side. We're us and you're them and our politics is pure team sport. Party first country second, Putin is proud.
That the problem.
All the US gov system does if anything is consider if the person wanting work in the USA is "university" educated.
Another nation prints out "rocket surgeon" qualifications after 3 years at their low cost national university.
All the ads in the US media for "rocket surgeon" not getting filled? Thats how US brands sneak in their cheap workers legally.
The US gov accepts that "rocket surgeon" is part of another nations educational system with further question. That the USA is totally lacking in skilled "rocket surgeons"
. A low cost worker from a low wage nation walks into the USA to a waiting job.
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Thats the way it should be ain any normal nation AC.
Entering the USA should be for the world best.
People who can offer the USA something useful and then return back to their own nations when done.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Not to mention her chain migration parents....Oooooo, look el Presidente Tweetie, *immigrants*!! Go Crazy!!!
Trump probably is a racist, but that isn't why he's playing the racist card. He's playing it because his base is racist, and hence, he's playing them.
Playing to an easily played base isn't carrying any real positions. It's just playing to an easily deceived base.
What about el Presidente Tweetie's pregnant trade war is it that you do not understand? It and limits on immigration are merely the first steps.
The liberal position on immigration is the welcome people who WANT TO COME TO THE COUNTRY AND WORK HARD. It is what most immigrants do, legal or illegal. What's so hard to understand about that?
Really? Where are the conservatives out there demanding a fix for the Dreamers? Do we see them on FOX? No. Do we see them in Congress? No. The problem here is the Conservatives are ducking for cover lest they be forced into either saying (1) the Dreamers get to stay and piss off their allegedly Christian base, or (2) tell the Dreamers to go and show us in precise terms that the Conservatives have hearts of stone.
AC its all in the wording of the ads and how long the job was not filled in the USA.
Show the US gov you cant get a US worker and its time to bring in a low cost worker from another part of the world.
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What's the problem with sending dreamers home? Don't you think it would do their countries some good?
For economy to keep growing you need more consumers.
No you don't, there are ways for economies to grow besides increasing the number of warm bodies. But it's really begging the question, because nobody wants absolute growth, they want per capita growth.
You do understand that most people support their party because they think that party's platform is what's best for the country...
Having a sensible policy that gives people a chance to immigrate legally and fairly, managed so that it doesn't adversely affect people already there, is good for everyone.
And what if that's not possible? What if we have to choose who it should be good for and who it should be bad for?
What is the Liberal position on immigration, and how will that position benefit America?
It's all over the place.
Liberals want to support the humanitarian side--we want to protect people who have been here long, integrated with our society, and would be harmed by deportation--as a general rule. We also want to keep those programs which provide a place for people to go when fleeing humanitarian crisis (saving lives).
The rest is economics, and liberals are divided. I have a fairly well-developed economic position, and would like to start with some background.
I'd like to first point out that immigration and trade are similar: in trade, the labor is physically in another nation, rather than here. Immigration has one special advantage: the local consumption driven by that labor is in our own nation, directly. A bunch of immigrant workers might import Chinese clothes, but they aren't eating at a Chinese McDonalds.
Population doesn't simply double every generation, or otherwise grow. There's an economic carry capacity: as you scale, you also scale labor needs, and so population grows and nothing changes. When you hit carry capacity for producing a particular good or service, you require more labor per unit.
As an example: raising production from 500,000 units to 1,000,000 units may require doubling the number of working hours in total (1M = 500k * 2). Raising production from 1,000,000 to 1,100,000 may require 1.15x as much labor (10% more production, 15% more labor) or such.
That causes financial pressure as population expands, which largely discourages family growth. Poorer and middle-class families have fewer financial resources and either decide they can't afford children or they have children and then fail to care for them and so they die. Population numbers for an entire economic unit (generally a nation or the world) show this trend, although individual families will bob above and below the trend (i.e. you can get really big welfare families sometimes, but your welfare system can't provide enough to force your total population to grow beyond your economic capacity--it's physically-impossible).
Okay, what's all this mean?
Immigrants who have been here for a while (even several months) no longer have a real impact on our economy. We have a fast-response system (length of college tenure, variations in age of retirement, work visa program) and a slow-response system (birth and death rate) to adjust labor force, and the fast-response system integrates working immigrants rapidly. Removing them would cause a back-fill with new American labor--either earlier transition from college to the workforce or later retirement.
That capacity is limited. It's bigger than our inflow, but it's not infinite.
2/3 of all unauthorized immigrants are visa overstays. That means they're here, they're working, we've integrated them, and then it's time for them to leave and they don't. That has approximately zero economic impact.
The remainder are illegal border crossings.
Even with the illegal border crossings and the unauthorized immigrants, we have incredibly-low unemployment rates at this time, and pull around 300,000 new authorized workers into the nation every year.
We're doing pretty well.
My position should be obvious in some part.
First, the immigrants who have been here for a year or so and are working are equivalent to any other working American. The only argument to eject them is a social argument: person A doesn't have a job (there's going to be unemployment even with zero immigrants) and believes person B is less of a human being and so has fewer human rights, thus should move to the back of the bus. Such an isolationist policy will eventually exhaust our sacrificial immigrant population, leaving us with many persons A who have nobody left to mug for their employment.
Thus we should seek to extend these visa overstays, perhaps grantin
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Because we could just leave them in India or Germany and tell them to build it and upload it to the SFTP server. They wouldn't pay their taxes to the US Government, they wouldn't spend their wage at US small business restaurants, and we'd have more money flowing out.
I don't believe a trade deficit is a bad thing; that doesn't mean I don't see the economic difference between money being spent locally and money being spent importing something that costs exactly the same price either way. Imports are only good for your economy when they're significantly-cheaper than paying local labor to do the same thing.
That should allow you to ask the next question; although you can spend a little time thinking on it to make sure you need somebody else to answer it for you. I might or might not have all the answers, so you might have to ask someone else.
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And yet Congress (controlled by "conservatives") won't put that position into law.
The employment route doesn't make you an indentured servant, H1B is not the only option.
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Yeah, that qualifies :-/
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What is interesting about this debate is that Canada, who many would assume is more open and accepting of immigrants, has the exact merit-based system so many in the US want. It's points based, and unless you have good education and lots of $$$, it's going to take you a long time to immigrate there.
The sad part is so many on the left in Canada would lambaste the US for their politics but don't understand their own immigration laws. DJT isn't more anti-immigration, it's levelling the playing field in many instances.
And you are correct, the racism argument is utterly wrong, but hey, everything is called racist nowadays. I would call those mud slingers the true 'deplorables' for trolling emotions on what needs to be a level headed conversation and debate.
for their parents, even at immigrant prices. They're relying on Medicare or family members or just plain hoping for the best that their parents don't wind up dead. Send the immigrants away and maybe they can afford it when they get new, better paying jobs. But even if they can't they're no worse off than they were before.
This is the problem with abandoning your working class. It creates warped incentives like this. As Trump put it, "What da ya got to lose?". The answer for a _lot_ of rust belters is nothing, nothing whatsoever.
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in what way is it the fault of social security being drawn down by the needy that is at fault for a shortfall: the trillions taken to "pay for" the bush era tax cuts are why the social security is not able to pay out.
Eh you're anon, but if you misunderstood maybe others did too. I didn't say there were too many needy people. I didn't say taxes weren't high enough, or were too high.
I said it wasn't invested well and earns a low rate of return. If it had been invested aggressively from the beginning, we would own a pretty large portion of the world. China would be working for our needy, rather than us borrowing from China. Germany and Japan's cars would be paying for our retirees.
I guess you don't understand how earning a return on investment works or something. A lot of people are ignorant about it.
Grow the fuck up, moron.
Oh you got me! I'm the young naive one here lol.
The Democrats want to continue with their own flavor of Benghazi ('Impeachment') so need no big issues resolved before November.
It is vitally important that the wrong lizard does not get elected.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.