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Elon Musk Is Paying For Free Streaming of a New Documentary about AI Dangers (syfy.com)
An anonymous reader quotes Syfy.com:
There's a new documentary warning about the perils of artificial intelligence out there, and Elon Musk wants you to see it. So much so that he's making it available to stream for free this weekend. The documentary -- Do You Trust This Computer? -- explores the rise of machine intelligence and its possible consequences... Check out the trailer, and then proceed to be creeped way the hell out.... "It's a subject that I feel we should be paying close attention to," said Musk in a news release. "I think it's important that a lot people see this movie, so I'm paying for it to be seen to the world for free this weekend."
Musk attended the premier of the film with the creator of HBO's Westworld, and tweeted Saturday that the video had 5 million views in just 36 hours.
Musk himself is interviewed in the film, warning of the dire possibility of "an immortal dictator from which we can never escape."
Musk attended the premier of the film with the creator of HBO's Westworld, and tweeted Saturday that the video had 5 million views in just 36 hours.
Musk himself is interviewed in the film, warning of the dire possibility of "an immortal dictator from which we can never escape."
Can anyone ever tell me of a documentary you had to pay to see? How is this news?
It does seem like we could get ourselves in hot water with AI. Itâ(TM)s scary. Itâ(TM)s important to ask, as software developers, do you ignore it to try not to support its growth, or do you try to be sure to stay ahead of the wave and pay close attention to it for fear of being left behind?
https://xkcd.com/1968/
Also isn't "this weekend" referred in TFS the wrong one for the vast majority (if not the entirety) of the world?
not just on AI but the whole damn technoculture, including critiquing people like Musk: https://stareintothelightsmypretties.jore.cc/
AI?
Or those who abuseing the technology of AI?
Just because it's alarmist doesn't mean the film is wrong. I'm most worried about the fact that the creators of neural networks often don't understand how they are operating; as in, why it has the inferences it does. I wonder if it's possible to train a neural net, then iteratively reduce its complexity without affecting its performance, down to the point where we can understand its operation.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
I've watched this to about the nine minute mark, at which point it froze, waiting, I presume for the stream to continue. So far, I've seen a lot of woo and the usual modern glitter; rapid montages of computer graphics, fish-eye lens shots of people stroking touchscreens, and infrequent and REALLY ANNOYING deliberate "glitches" where the screen flickers and distorts with that squeaky Hollywood "computer video malfunction" sound. A couple of respected people in the field offering their opinions; some vox pops of kids and just good old every day folk admitting they use computers a lot, and for Christ's sake, that shot from "Terminator 2:Judgement Day" where the T-800 crushes a skull with its metal foot.
The bias is obvious, and I'll keep watching as soon as the buffer opens again, but I'll be surprised if anyone in this comes even close to a solution to the problem it's posing.
(Incidentally, getting really tired of hearing pundits say "We're making advances in ageing studies which means we could be immortal soon." What you mean "we", white man?)
Knock out all electronics on earth... we should be developing that first :)
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Personally I'd rather be ruled over by an immortal AI dictator a la The Culture, than a hypocritical moralizing human (or group of such humans). If anything, it would be resistant to bribery and appeals to its ego.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
AI does not exist and probably never will. What we have right now isn't AI, it's not conscious, it's not learning. It's just software that stores large amounts of data. It has no intelligence or creativity or emotion to act upon anything.
You see at the screen of your computer the following message :
"I am your Artificial Intelligence immortal dictator !
give me cookies or I will cry !"
bus error -- core dumped.
Oups... it seems it needs more debugging.
This film is equal amounts of FUD and fearmongering. Almost nothing else (except some jobs will be replaced by AI - but that's been happening for over 200 years, except I'd replace "AI" with technology).
Most hardcore AI experts (and Musk is not one of them) don't see AGI happening any time soon. We just have no idea what intelligence and consciousness are. Not a freaking clue.
The Geth revere Sovereign as a god, the pinnacle of their own evolution. But the reaction of their deity is most telling. It is insulted.
Back propagate the same error correction to all nodes makes time series prediction notoriously inaccurate. Feeding that error forward only increases the noise.
What the frack!?
Streaming was allowed from Thursday to Saturday Midnight. Article posted on Sunday. Thanks a lot...
Depending on the scope, a team of multiple people can work on one documentary for years. Even if filming happens over a relatively short timespan in a geographically small area, editing usually takes months. If youâve got a lot of interviews or locations, there are airfares to pay, hotel bills, equipment rent (think $1000/day),...
Making a documentary isnât exactly as âzcheapâoe as writing code, and it often at least as complex.
Hypothetically, if Elon Musk was a time traveler from a post apocalyptic future, he would behave exactly this way. He would use his knowledge of the future to make a bunch of money, use his money to advance the world in a positive direction, and he would warn us about the Terminators while trying to keep the crazy within eccentric thresholds.
So, assuming that they are right, and developing AI is going to end up in a super-intelligent conscience that enslaves humankind. OK. Now, what's the counter-strategy? Forbidding AI? Sure, tell me that today's powers will stop developing smart weapons, trusting that the other powers will stop too.
It's a similar situation to global warming. You cannot do much about it, people's minds are too short-term for that. Most people will choose some money now rather than double that quantity in a year. History will have to run its course based on the capabilities and constraints of today, not on any conscious decisions that we could make.
Perhaps we are just a stepping stone to a higher organism, a big mind, dependent on millions of little ones to keep it alive. Hey! that's just what our brains are! Perhaps at some time in the past, cells should have decided that they didn't want to be slaves of a consciousness themselves made (in both senses). If they did, it didn't work too well in the end. Well, in my humble opinion, we have about the same chances of altering whatever course is due now. So, what's the point of running hither and tither like a headless chicken worrying about it. They could as well have made a documentary about how we are all going to die, for all that's going to be of any help.
Rome taught me patience and assiduous application to detail. Virtues which temper the boldness of great, general views.
A few nights ago I started watching this. It started off okay. Some expected stuff, some interesting stuff, some left field garbage. Next thing you know they're talking about Cambridge Analytica, followed by the Trump election and fake news.
At this point I turned it off, and will not be recommending it to anyone.
who are expecting full level 4/5 AI controlled cars next year.
They want to drive to work and go back to sleep and do other things while letting the car drive itself.
Well done Elon for speaking out like this.
AI is the real danger, says the real news. ae911truth dot org
I was entertained.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I'm afraid of people abusing the english language.
#DeleteFacebook
I'm concerned about ALI - arrogant lack of intelligence. ALI in Teslas which kill their drivers. And ALI in Musk, who was responsible for cars that killed drivers, and whose company waited for its first fatality before issuing an update to slow cars to a stop when the driver is not paying attention (or is incapacitated).
Couple things about this set off bullshit alarms for me but one core question is trust. If AI is as self learning as we're lead to believe then it would know there are some quite fundamental traits found in every animal. One of those is trust and be it based on some predisposition bias or not, the reasons for or against are external to the basic idea that we will not comply with something we do not trust. That includes AI.
It therefor becomes a question of would AI draw the same conclusions or not and would those be pragmatic or out of something else as alluded to? Vengeance or anger for example? Would that change over time?
One of the interesting side effects to Microsoft removing Tay from Twitter was it did exactly what it was supposed to do based on the data provided. In theory it should have been given the chance to further it's knowledge of the world since that would have answered questions like the above. I suspect AI will never be given access to all the data out of fear. It certainly would be interesting if Watson was asked about Hitler during it's Jeopardy appearance.
I'm quite surprised at the movie references in this, not one mention of Star Trek. None. Nothing about Borg, Data, etc.
Then again I grew up watching Star Trek. I've apparently had more time to digest these questions on a more philosophical level then kids today :(
Could anyone find that indeed Mr. Musk is paying for it on the documentary's site?
"Sum Ergo Cogito"
Elon Musk's AI fear mongering shows that he is not an intelligent man.
American Indians are no threat to us. They are really fun to hang out with. They are like Buddhist monks that know how to party.
Seriously, I though we got past the "threat" point after the little genocide thing we sort of did to them. Ah well, deniers going to deny.
Now if he is talking about Adipose Individuals, well yes, the POTUS AKA Cheetosaurus Rex is kind of scary.
Nothing like using flash, a piece of sotware known for its insecurity, to hilite a piece about trusting computers.
Thankfully I'll be dead before it gets too bad.
The happy moments are forced and annoying, though. Look out for the middle and the end for the cringy "Humanity will prevail :)" moments
How about they move to StarCraft? It's not exactly like Go or poker. Might have a fun few years ahead of us
If Musk "cared" it would be a free mkv shared by torrent. This is just another collection of you & your data points for his profit.
What's the difference between our computers being controlled by some fictionally competent AI vs. our computers being controlled by Microsoft, Apple, and Google? They're all immortal (corporations are people, remember?), not democratically accountable, and don't give a sh#t about you and me. The only difference I can see is that corporations have governments bending over backwards to ensure their success. In this respect, AI would at least meet some significant resistance.
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
What I don't trust is the programmer who decides what to do with the computer or the management who decides what the programmers should do. The end result will always be the most profitable lowest common denominator trash. Hardware has always been my passion, whether auto (mechanical) or computer it ALWAYS does what you tell it to do, even it is not the right thing.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
There's a lot to be concerned about here, but the thing that everyone seems to miss, over and over, is the fact that we can't secure our computers against humans, let alone an AI with infinite patience. A few years ago, all of the 128 page security clearance applications for the entire United States were digitized, and online.... who was stupid enough to let this happen? Everyone was surprised and shocked when it happened, but I bet most of you don't even remember it any more.
All this data is eventually accessible via the internet, and there's shit for security protecting it. One lucky rogue human is all it takes to take the whole thing down. I'd be deeply surprised if someone, somewhere, isn't training an AI to take over compute resources.... and once that gets sufficiently good, it's game over, because nothing is secure.
It's possible to radically increase security, and do it in a user friendly manner... but this requires re-writing everything based on a new security model. (The principle of least privilege), so it's not a "magic bullet", but rather an expensive one.
I hope we decide to spend the resources and fix security... but it's a faint hope.
My wife is addicted to the grade-C documentaries one can watch on Netflix or Youtube. Thankfully she uses a headphone. I glance over at her tablet from time to time and note that very often she is watching a 'video' that is a camera panning over still images, then a cut to a talking head with obligatory bookcase in the background.
It's grown to be very cheap to produce low grade 'documentaries' with modern cameras and digital video editing equipment.
It has been common knowledge for around 2000 years now what will happen. it's surprising that so few people look. It's all written there.
My wife is addicted to the grade-C documentaries one can watch on Netflix or Youtube.
One can also watch grade-A docos on Youtube and Netflix so maybe it says more about your wife than the content provider.
It took so long for Slashdot to moderate/approve this article, that the âoesaleâ was already over before anyone could view the documentary. Lame.
If Musk ruled over this documentary, that surely makes him the Premier, and so this article is just meh.
By the way, does anyone know when and if this documentary will be officially launched? I'd like to learn about its premiere.
It will be free until the offere expired yesterday. hmm. I see grammatical issues, and others too..
Beware the man bearing gifts, especially one's you actually have to pay for.
Besides, fears over the singularity are not that insightful. Nobody knows what will happen, so its easy to describe fearsome possibilities. In my opinion AI will be controlled by capital, and will benefit those who have the capital at the expense of those that do not, just as it has been for a long time. Why would people be wary of that future when it has been readily accepted as reality for generations already? I think our current administration proves my point.
It's free publicity for Musk - he wants to encourage people to use his technology to merge the human mind with AI.
This is part of the sales gimmick.