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Firms Relabelling Low-Skilled Jobs As Apprenticeships, Says Report (bbc.com)
Fast food giants, coffee shops and retailers are relabelling low-skilled jobs as apprenticeships and gaining subsidies for training, a report says. BBC: The study by centre-right think tank Reform says many firms have rebranded existing roles after being obliged to contribute cash to on-the-job training. It adds that 40% of government-approved apprenticeship standards do not meet a traditional definition of them. The government says "quality" is at the heart of its apprenticeship reforms. As part of the changes, it introduced an apprenticeship levy on organisations paying more than $4.3m in salaries a year. They have to pay 0.5% of their wages total into a "digital account" held by HMRC. They then "spend" these contributions on apprenticeship training delivered by registered providers. They can also get back up to 90% of the cost of training. But they are also entitled to pay apprentices lower than the standard minimum wage.
If this article didn't make sense, here's why: In America, apprenticeships are generally the realm of blue collar trades.
In the UK, this is true, however they also broadly include it to also mean "paid internship for office jobs".
Why? Probably the same reason a boot is a trunk, the letter U is sprinkled everywhere, and beer is served at room temp (not bad) /Giorgio A. Tsoukalos meme hands saying "England".
This isn't a problem in America because of the word apprenticeship's association with blue collarwork.
I hire a high school student to mow my lawn
I hire another high school student to babysit my children
Where and how to apply for government subsidies for both of my apprentices?
Why do you think this is firms, try people. It is people who make these decisions not firms. A firm does what the people who run it decide.
Don't worry it is not just the CEOs people right down to the drug dealer who kills the competition or the student who cheats on an exam, or the homeless guy who has a sign need money for food and then gets whiskey.
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Serfdom. Maybe the "Firms" could just provide a nice thatched hut and some gruel as pay... /s
In any case I would like a no-compromise complete-fairness-for-everyone solution, and can'd find any.
Instead of whining that it doesn't exist, why don't you create it yourself? Go start a company that pays above market wages, charges below market prices, and spends nothing on any advertising that may annoy someone. Then please come back here and tell us how it worked out. Good luck.
Law passed that charges companies money if they don't have enough jobs called "apprenticeships". Companies respond by retitling arbitrary jobs "apprenticeships". How surprising.
I don't think they're evil but only because I don't think that word has any real meaning.
I think many are led by a psychopath or have a one actively moving up the ranks on their way to the top. The promotion structure of most corporations, not unlike feudal Europe, actively selects for psychopaths.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
This is old enough news that the backlash against this has already hit print media.
The Guardian print version is here:
https://www.theguardian.com/ne...
Or if you prefer the same content as a podcast, it's here:
https://www.theguardian.com/ne...
Since this is England, the whole thing directly relates to class. Upper-class (or perhaps the Brits call that 'Middle-class') jobs essentially require a an internship now before you can get a real job. Finishing an internship means being able to afford to live with no paycheck in London for six months. This means only the wealthy can afford to have an internship. This locks the educated non-wealthy out of the higher-class professions.
So this is not about serfdom -- a path with no escape. It's about making people pay for jobs. You have to BUY your job. (LIke you'd BUY a commission in the army in a Jane Austin novel.) And if you cannot afford to buy your job, you're the wrong sort of person for work here anyhow. Nudge nudge wink wink.
I have to agree with this. People willing to step on people do so to assume positions of power over groups.
Most people are decent. Decent people don't get ahead as often as bastards do. "Getting ahead" means getting to make the decisions.
This is a simple numeric fallacy. You look at the outliers and assume they represent the mean.
Here is the deal. No work experience NO JOB!! No references NO JOB! No one gives a shit about your fancy piece of paper called a degree. ... also if it is not profitable to pay someone money for a job not needed also NO JOB! The joke on reddit is to become a system administrator you first have to become a system administrator! How do you get that? By working for free and taking low wage shit contract jobs to build up your resume, references, and reputation. Then you can tell an employer to fuck themselves if they try to short you. But if you have no job then there is nothing you can do.
Firms are not evil. They are like you. They only pay for things they want and if they can get it done cheaper they will just like if you for anything you want to buy. That is bad news. The good news is the FreeMarket can work in your favor if you have experience and a skill. Economics 101 dictates that you can't equal all jobs minimum wage. Someone will always pay more for a skilled worker they need more than their present employer.
To be a developer you first have to work for free. THen work for 4 weeks for $100 on an ad for craigslist while you work at the mall with the highschoolers. The next job you get it done in 2 weeks for another $100 and so on. THen you temp for $20/hr. ...3 years later you bill $70,000 a year. 10 years later $150,000 a year.
I am in favor of more apprenticeships and got into a debate last week on LinkedIN. The reason these poor millennials are living with their parents is they were too good to flip burgers and do free internships over the summer while at college. Guess who got the jobs upon graduation? The ones who had references of course.
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I thought about changing career paths and doing software development. I realized I would have to work for free to gain references from Craigslist gigs. Then make maybe $100 for s months worth of work for a website then contract for $20/hr after 6 months and so on etc.
I started I.T. at 14/hr when I was younger living at home with my parents as a subcontractors subcontractor.I can't do that at my age and pay rent.
Part of me feels the solution to not having work experience is to gain it anyhow but if it's not in the right field then fuck it.
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Germany structured it's corporate law to require that the corporate boards INCLUDE labor. The very definition and function of corporations are done by government; you can do it foolishly or smart... So, NO it would not happen in Germany because labor has a real voice in management.
Emissions is another whole issue and one where labor is aligned with management. A solution on this one could be to have a government official on the board... except that could be a nightmare in so many ways... but you could REQUIRE full accounting of everything that transpires so accountability is possible when they get caught. Some of which does happen if they don't manage to shred and wipe all the evidence; which so far they often miss bits but get enough that you can't beat their army of lawyers and bribed officials. This is a place where a blockchain style ledger would be quite useful. It would make it hard to remove evidence; they'd have to manage in secret to avoid any records... and that should be a crime. Also could stop all these golf informal meetings where a lot of bad things happen. I bet the world would be a better place if you just outlawed golf... (strip clubs are impossible to ban; just try running a black market golf club...) losing golf would be a small price to pay.
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Why do you think this is firms, try people. It is people who make these decisions not firms. A firm does what the people who run it decide.
Thing is that when people act as a group such as a committee, suddenly their morals disappear as they give responsibility to the other guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Very difficult for someone without a certain amount of wealth behind it. The reason why these companies do this is to keep more generous companies out of the market. You have to fight fire with fire. Jeff Bezos could change this but not just anyone. A normal person could go sell the idea to investors but then you wouldn't profit much from it anyway.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Mod up. You just defined the entire gig economy.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Here is the deal. No work experience NO JOB!! No references NO JOB! No one gives a shit about your fancy piece of paper called a degree
That wasn't my experience. I had a few offers straight out of my undergraduate degree, but decided to do a PhD instead. During the PhD, I did some consulting on the side. After that, I continued worked freelance (I was making enough during my PhD to cover my cost of living even without the stipend) for five years and had no shortage of clients from word-of-mouth referrals (I didn't advertise and very rarely actively solicited work). I applied to Google and was offered a job, but decided to go back into academia for a bit (much more fun, much less money). At this point, I had nothing on my CV that looked like a job. I stayed there for 6 years and then was headhunted by an industrial research lab, where I'll be starting next month. Before I went back to academia, I had never held a proper job (and many would argue that I still haven't), but that didn't stop me from getting an offer from both Google.
Oh, and neither my undergraduate degree nor my PhD was from an institution that most people will have heard of and my PhD was in an area that is almost completely unrelated to anything I've worked on since. Companies want some evidence of competence but they're generally in the business of getting stuff done and there's a lot more stuff that needs doing than there are people to do it.
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>tell us how it worked
If it does that means we never needed any solution in the first place, dumbass.
As most people will notice, except regulators it seems, this is a scam to pay below the already pitiful minimum wage. Jobs that take 6 hours to learn should not be permitted to misuse apprenticeships. There is a place for white-collar apprenticeships but only for developing staff at a fair price.
Unfortunately there's usually a lot more stuff that needs doing than there is budget to pay people for doing it.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You kind of proved my point. You had word of mouth references and contacts. If you are a 4 year student and have no word of mouth you're fucked.
No one will bother wasting their time to talk to you as a "real" candidate is always available.
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