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Jailed Kansas 'Swat' Perpetrator Sneaks Online, Threatens More 'Swats' (kansas.com)
An anonymous reader quotes the Wichita Eagle:
Tyler Barriss -- the man charged in a swatting hoax that led to the death of an innocent Wichita man -- apparently got access to the internet from jail for at least 28 minutes [last] Friday and threatened to swat again. "How am I on the Internet if I'm in jail? Oh, because I'm an eGod, that's how," a tweet posted at 9:05 a.m. said.
Other developments in the case:
Other developments in the case:
- Another tweet from the Barriss account 19 minutes later asked who was "talking shit," warning "your ass is about to get swatted." And nine minutes later his final tweet from jail bragged, "Y'all should see how much swag I got in here." The county sheriff's office blamed an outside vendor's improper software upgrade to an inmate kiosk, arguing that 14 inmates potentially had full internet access "for less than a few hours."
- 25-year-old Barris is still in jail facing an 11-year prison sentence, noted a Twitter user who responded to the tweets. "This will play well at sentencing when you're pretending to be remorseful and asking the judge for mercy."
- Meanwhile, the Wichita police officer who mistakenly fired the fatal shot that killed a 28-year-old father of two will not face charges. The district attorney concluded that several of the officers closest to victim Andrew Finch thought he reached down to pull up his pants, leaving his right arm hidden from the officers, the Wichita Eagle reports. "The officer who fired the shot, along with some others, thought Finch was reaching for a gun."
- "This shooting should not have happened," said the district attorney. "But this officer's decision was made in the context of the false call." Finch was shot 10 seconds after opening his front door, and his family's civil case against the police department is still going forward.
- Two other gamers involved in the shooting -- including one who allegedly hired Barriss over a $1.50 bet in the game Call of Duty -- have not been charged with a crime.
Enjoy your multiple years in solitary confinement now.
When cops investigate themselves it's always justified.
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My question is how has this person not violated Twitter's TOS and had his account suspended? The fact it wasn't disabled in the first place is as mind-boggling as how he was able to access it from jail. But hopefully this incident will be brought up at his trial so the judge can see how little remorse he has and that any remorsefulness shown in court is just perjury.
Barring some legal entitlement to the internet that I am not aware of, this guy won't be using the internet for a long time.
Oh, if his lawyers were trying to get him bail, their job just got a lot harder.
of the actual shooting, not of cops standing around with their weapons drawn like posted, I'll have to assume the cops are lying.
Because they are saying that with their weapons drawn, they are afraid that someone is fast enough to draw a gun from behind themselves and take them out?
Seriously?
No matter how you slice it, the cops overreacted.
Threatening to swat people on twitter is fine. You better not fucking suggest there are only two genders or you'll really be in trouble.
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"This shooting should not have happened," said the district attorney. "But this officer's decision was made in the context of the false call."
So not prosecuting the officer is probably the right decision, especially since he was (presumably) acting they way the department's training and guidelines suggest he should. But it seems to me that this death, and many others, indicate that those instructions are in serious need of an overhaul. And that in most cases officers need to wait and return fire rather than shoot first and answer any questions later. That puts them at risk, yes, but that's their damn job: to protect the public. And as long as the guy who got swatted didn't offer any violence and until there was crystal clear proof that he was about to get violent, he was not a criminal, not a "perp", but a member of the public. And his life should have come first.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
You are in a SWAT team. You have been trained for a gunfight. You're there, along with 20 of your buddies, ALL of your weapons drawn and in your hand and pointing to the guy who just walked out of his house and is clueless of WTF is happening. All you need to do is pull a trigger one or more times to take him down. "I thought he was reaching for a gun" is not a good defense. Wait until you actually SEE a fucking gun before you shoot the poor bastard. I can't believe he's not going to face charges for a reckless murder.
Is that a roll of dimes in your pocket or are you happy to see me?
That depends, is it cheaper or more expensive than a few SWAT raids?
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This guy is some kind of wizard. Jail can't hold him. He'll be out soon enough.
Is this kid a Trump?
I don't respond to AC's.
Yet it wasn't the cops next to the guy who made the kill shot, it was one at distance, so this is bullshit on its face. DA's need to be banned from from investigating cops in their own jurisdiction as they work with said cops as part of their day job. The DOJ should go after cops for civil rights violations when local prosecutors drop the ball, like when they sent some of the officers who beat Rodney King to prison.
Justice WILL have the last laugh here..Nuf said.
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I'm hearing the echoes of a ringing triple facepalm all the way over here.
One from the sentencing judge
Two from his lawyer
Three from his future self looking back at ruins of his life
"Depth," genius.
This is why we have death penalty.. This punk already made continual threats to kill his grandmother, burn her house and kill her dogs, two different bomb threats to a tv station as well as caused the death of one person. Imagine what will happen if he gets out.
He obviously believes the rules of society don't apply to them. Those rules should be harshly applied so he can't kill again.
So, loads of comments about "how cops are bad", but very little on the responsibility of the root cause that started this chain of events.
A guy deliberately set up an armed response team to an address. From this point, the amount off things that can go badly wrong is staggering, not to mention the cost of performing the action itself in monetary terrms.
In this case, something did go wrong, that would not have happened if the false callout had not been made. Everything stems from that malicious callout, therefore, everything that went wrong should be put on the shoulders of the malicious caller.
The caller should be tried for "attempted murder" if a malicious swatting is made, or at least assault with a deadly weapon (as that's what SWAT teams carry, and it's definitely an assault if done maliciously).
It's very easy to point a finger at a cop and say "Your fault", but unless you do the job, day in, day out, with your life at risk, and nearly every situation you face is life or death, then I take the voices as 'armchair experience'. Yes, training can always be improved, yes, odds can be shrunk, but in situations like this, risk cannot be eliminated. Thus you go for the root cause. Make the malicious caller responsible for all costs, all outcomes, and at least that assault with deadly weapon to boot. Every, single, malicious, call.
Maybe then we'll see swattings "for fun" vanish. As long as people treat it as "just a kicks thing that went wrong", it'll keep on happening, and more deaths will ensue because of it.
Highly trained heavily geared up professionals should not have itchy trigger fingers and need to at least get professional consequences!
People make mistakes on the job and big ones result in consequences including being fired. I'm not saying firing is required as an idiotic zero tolerance policy; especially when properly handled that employee may never make that mistake ever again. As a TEAM failure the whole team needs to feel the failure; more training and at least but a dock in PAY should be minimum. If your team fucks up you don't get bonuses or raises and are lucky to not get reassigned or laid off... if not fired if you are the reason the team failed.
When you are nearly invincible against most every likely handheld weapon you can take the TIME to wait for that LARGE heavy 50 caliber to rise into view. It is cowardice or mental illness or a SYSTEM which promotes "extreme" caution with the exact opposite reasoning of innocent until proven guilty. Furthermore, better training so you don't question breaking windows and entering from ALL sides and eyes seeing his hands can communicate to the others. They often just smash in the door; maybe the back door too -- this is life or death stuff, they should break windows and using a drone to peak in windows should be cheap...
Blaming the victim for involuntary ass scratching (cell phone same thing) or pulling up loose clothes or sneezing is so unprofessional an excuse somebody needs to be fired.
Finally, WTF are they using guns? It is a TEAM where the front guys can have beanbag guns and stun guns and heavier armor. the others can have the bazookas. This wasn't a known criminal or bad location... WTF do we have local prosecutors who must work with the police be the ones to look into their buddies? massive conflict of interest!
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they are out of their debt, and have no idea of the gravit they are doing
I believe you're out of your depth, buddy./p
By maximizing how many mistakes please get for overzealous reaction, then highlights the likelihood the other Les cut-and-dry cases are also the result of police mismanagement and over sensitivity. How about the police start taking accountability for their actions say we fucked up it's our job to be sure beyond belief before we accidentally make things worse
You're reinforcing my point here.
Because of the incestious relationship between DA's and the cops they work with, just like I said. There was no, none, nada, zip sign this man was reaching for any weapon.
because it's already established. There's nothing to debate there. This guy goes to jail for a long time and isn't let near the internet or any other anonymous communications when he gets out. Problem solved.
We're still debating the cop's situation becuase he got off scott free when he obviously shouldn't have. At the least he should be fired and never allowed to work as a cop again. As it stands our "Tough on Crime" outlook and unwillingness to address gun violence has left cops above the law in most shootings.
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Botched software patch.
If I were the prosecutor in Sedgewick County, I'd be looking very closely at who did the patch installation and who is in charge of managing these kiosks. Could be some of Bariss' gamer buddies.
Drugs and other contraband frequently make it inside prisons by way of corrupt guards and other officials.
Have gnu, will travel.
What a swat twat.
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He is correct. Look at that Canadian farmer who shot one of the natives who was trying to steal stuff (again) from his property. The farmer was found innocent in court, but all you hear in the news is how the white man is evil, how another white man has shot a poor native out of racism, how the government should do something about racism. Bullshit. We all know it but you progressive hypocrites bathe in this disgusting cesspool of lies instead of addressing the real problems.
What kind of idiot, SITTING IN PRISON for SWAT'ing, sneaks online and self-incriminates by promising MORE?
His parents couldn't have dropped him on his head as a baby.
They must have been spiking his stupid ass like a football!
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THANK GOD!!!
Hi Tyler. Hope you're having a great time in prison. Tell Bubba we send our love.
Perhaps you need to recall what Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt means?
Reasonable doubt does not mean "guilty".
It means the DA didn't waste time trying to prosecute a case he had no hope of winning. His job isn't to please you--it's to obtain convictions.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
But this *wasn't* some random guy. It was a guy who was there and who was armed for the express purpose of dealing with a violent situation in which at least one of multiple hostages had already been gravely wounded or killed.
Context matters, and you cannot condemn someone for not having perfect knowledge, particularly in a scenario such as this one.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
If it is reasonable to believe that a person moving their hands towards their body is reaching for a gun, then there are too many guns. Time to round them up and ban them.
No, time to make the cops be responsible for their actions. In Indiana you're allowed to shoot cops in self defense.
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Since they passed that law, law enforcement being so lax and blowing people away has stopped. They know they can be legally blown away. So the answer again is more guns, not less guns. More guns, less crime. Fewer guns, more crime. London has passed NYC in homicides because of their stupidity on this subject.
Seems we may have a psychopath. With any luck the judge sends him to a looney bin for a long time. They can keep him locked up a lot longer in a psyc ward.
Hmm or how about the 14 year old kid who knocked on a neighborhood door to ask directions to school, because he had missed the bus? They of course were polite and more than happy to help the kid out...
Oh wait, the kid was black so actually the woman started about how "your kind" is always trying to rob her, then the husband comes raging out the door with a shotgun and attempted to murder the kid. He only failed because he forgot to turn the safety off the first time he pulled the trigger, and so missed by time he actually got a shot off.
Yeah that's a totally reasonable response to a14 year old kid knocking on your door asking for directions. There's no way race had anything to do with it...
Perhaps you could read the definitions for non sequitur and red herring. No one said the DA is judge, jury and executioner, or whatever stupid thought was going through your head.
You sound like the Obamabots whining the reason their guy didn't prosecute a single banker because the DOJ couldn't win any of the cases - when the feds have a conviction rate over 90%.
A murdering pig shot a man for no reason two seconds after he stepped out his front door. Manslaughter, straight up.
And for all the cop knew the man walking out the front door was a hostage.
Straw man. Cops get fake or misleading calls all. the. time. but can't go in shooting everyone on sight. So why all the desperate defenses of the indefensible here? You got family in the gestapo, or are you one of those kind of teabaggers?