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German ICO Savedroid Pulls Exit Scam After Raising $50 Million (techcrunch.com)

German company Savedroid has pulled a classic exit scam after raising $50 million in ICO and direct funding. The site is currently displaying a South Park meme with the caption "Aannnd it's gone." The founder, Dr. Yassin Hankir, has posted a tweet thanking investors and saying "Over and out." TechCrunch reports: A reverse image search found Hankir's photo on this page for Founder Institute, and he has pitched his product at multiple events, including this one in German. Savedroid was originally supposed to use AI to manage user investments and promised a crypto-backed credit card, a claim that CCN notes is popular with scam ICOs. It ran for a number of months and was clearly well-managed as the group was able to open an office and appear at multiple events.

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  1. Vigilante justice by sgage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I predict that, at some point, vigilante justice is going to kick in. These twats just rip people off and make light of it, well, sooner or later someone's gonna snap.

    1. Re:Vigilante justice by Pezbian · · Score: 1

      People get scared so no.

      It's a nice wish, though.

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    2. Re:Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      honestly if you are stupid enough to fall for this scam then you probably don't have the mental capacity to find the people involved (even if you had their name and address).

    3. Re:Vigilante justice by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Vigilante justice by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Maybe these morons should just stop falling for scam after scam just because the scammers use blockchain and cryptocurrency in the pitch?

    5. Re:Vigilante justice by Bobrick · · Score: 1

      Seriously. If I had the money to invest in such a thing, the last thing I'd put my money in is -such a thing as an ICO-.

    6. Re: Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wait... asshole steals $50m, you think thatâ(TM)s the fault of those that fell for his venture pitch and got scammed. They deserve to be scammed, and if one goes after the scammer, that makes you a miserable person.

      Sorry, Iâ(TM)m not buying any of this. Access to investors money makes technology advancement possible. Accountability to your investors is important. Scams without punishment make for systemic failure, doesnâ(TM)t matter if itâ(TM)s coins, cute Stanford dropout Theranos CEOs or run of the mill mismanagement.

    7. Re: Vigilante justice by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      It is an Immoral act to let a sucker keep his money!

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    8. Re: Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck you.

      It is the original arseholes that did the wrong deed to begin with. Want justice in the modern world? Be rich, hire a lawyer, and ruin someone's life through the sanctioned channels - win or lose in court it doesn't matter. What if you can't afford to fight the legal fight? Then you have to go after them yourself. Note how in either case the decision to seek revenge is completely arbitrary and people do suffer by either means quite equally.

    9. Re:Vigilante justice by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place.

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    10. Re:Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Internet Tough Guy detected.

    11. Re:Vigilante justice by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      "Hurry and get in on the ground floor now--before your government bans ICOs, too!"

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    12. Re:Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The fetid wog who perpetrated this scam is actually a mud-man, Dr. Yassin
      Hankir, one of the untermenschen who have a temporary mail drop inside
      of German borders. He is a genetic defect, and not a German.

    13. Re: Vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How do you fish bananas?

    14. Re:Vigilante justice by sigmundur · · Score: 1

      Good thing anonymous internet "justice" doesn't work THAT fast. Someone might've got hurt by "vigilantes".

    15. Re:Vigilante justice by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      How many Kickstarter scams have there been now and all of them seem to have gotten away with it. There is never any real come-back.

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    16. Re:Vigilante justice by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      And yet all those “superior” Germans fell for an obvious scam. Hahaha.

    17. Re: Vigilante justice by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      "It is an Immoral act to let a sucker keep his money!"

      All depends on who you'd call a sucker and what you mean by 'unkeeping' someone from his money.

    18. Re:Vigilante justice by hey! · · Score: 1

      Rubbing peoples' noses in it was a mistake. The smartest thing would be to stage a crisis and shut down the business. Even if people saw through it, I suspect they'd be less angry if they weren't openly mocked.

      And the thing about scamming people is that if you do it nicely, you can even scam them more than once. It goes like this, "Just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll let you in on this scam I'm running on that other guy over there." Of course, to get in the scam they'll have to put a little skin in the game...

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    19. Re: Vigilante justice by nnull · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is, I've seen and watch this constantly happen. Meanwhile, legitimate people trying to accomplish good get sued to oblivion because some investor didn't make his ROI, calls them scammers.

    20. Re: Vigilante justice by another_twilight · · Score: 1

      Mu

    21. Re: Vigilante justice by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      No. THAT is spoken like a true grifter though. You're above all that money nonsense.

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    22. Re: Vigilante justice by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Karma means everybody I'm screwing did something bad in a previous life. Hence they deserve it.

      I'm a utilitarian, not a social utilitarian, a personal utilitarian. Whatever outcome has the most utility for me is the most moral.

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  2. Emo Phillips by fibonacci8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I lent a friend of mine $10,000 for plastic surgery and now I don't know what he looks like."

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    1. Re:Emo Phillips by mydn · · Score: 2

      She just propositioned you in a bar. Go with it, for maximum ROI.

    2. Re:Emo Phillips by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

      now I don't know what he looks like."

      Or what she looks like.

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  3. Guess my radar was right. by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    It was a Shitcoin.

    Now 4 more Doge.

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  4. My surprised face. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It's almost like the entire idea of an "initial coin offering" is a complete scam, designed to cash in on cryptocurrency hype!

    Also, some might be surprised to learn that water is wet.

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    1. Re:My surprised face. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's almost like the entire idea of an "initial coin offering" is a complete scam, designed to cash in on cryptocurrency hype!

      It's an entirely unregulated financial market. You don't get the protections of the banking industry.

      The problem is people are failing to realise they're playing in an unregulated financial market, and then put on their sad faces when they get ripped off.

      Until such time as this stuff is regulated, and people start going to jail, this is the most extreme example of "buyer beware" you're going to find.

      If it wasn't for the magical unicorns people think cryptocurrency is powered by, this would be covered under existing bank/stock regulations.

      It is no longer possible to feel sympathy for people getting ripped off like this, because a fool and his money were parted.

      Stop treating some company who says "yarg, we're gonna have teh crypto and we're all gonna be teh rich" as credible. Someone got rich here, but it sure wasn't the people who got conned by this.

    2. Re:My surprised face. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that straight-up fraud is illegal regardless of if it's a 'regulated' financial market or not.

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  5. My money! by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Crap. I invested a lot here. He was using deep learning and AI to manage investments. Since AI and deep learning are totally a thing (I read about it in Slashdot) I figured I couldn't lose.

    1. Re:My money! by sgage · · Score: 2

      And I just ran out of mod points. Well, +1 FUNNY anyway.

    2. Re:My money! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Hem... there are probably more stories about ICO scams than about deep learning ;-)

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    3. Re:My money! by sinij · · Score: 2

      Don't worry, you can make up for that with profits from my new autonomous driving green energy organic ICO.

    4. Re:My money! by pr0nbot · · Score: 1

      You may be interested in my ICO, "ModCoin". We have found a novel way to mine mod points using AI, deep learning and graphene, and by investing you will be helping us to bring this innovation to market.

    5. Re:My money! by Zephyn · · Score: 1

      What if the AI decided that the easiest way to make money was to disappear with the investments and frame the founder?

  6. Yep by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why does anyone fall for this anymore? There was some survey recently where more than 80% of ICOs were scams.

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    1. Re:Yep by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, 20% are TOTALLY legit, because cryptocurrencies are TOTALLY legit things. Just like AI and Deep Learning Neural Nets and autonomous driving. This is totally the future!

    2. Re:Yep by sgage · · Score: 2

      Because of something for nothing magical thinking. Very prevalent in America, and probably most parts of the world. It's what drives the system.

    3. Re:Yep by gravewax · · Score: 2

      no 20% are just really bad investments, well meaning people running poorly thought out schemes whereas the other 80% are well thought out schemes to fleece you of money from your wallet. at this point you would have to be braindead to be "investing" anything in an ICO.

    4. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In 10 years time, truly autonomous driving will still be 10 years away...

    5. Re:Yep by sgage · · Score: 1

      That's why I said "and probably most parts of the world". I live in the USA, and that's what I know. I specifically didn't say it was only an American issue. Clearly it is not, which was my point.

    6. Re:Yep by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Good job shoehorning America in there, even though it's totally unrelated. You Americans always have to change the subject to yourselves, don't you? Every story, every day, every time is always about you. Ever wonder why the world despises you so much?

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    7. Re:Yep by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Same reason idiots continue to perpetuate the scam crypto-economy.

      Because they think they're smart enough to avoid being part of that 80% that gets fucked.

      As we see, they are obviously not that smart.

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    8. Re:Yep by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

      Why does anyone fall for this anymore? There was some survey recently where more than 80% of ICOs were scams.

      When you combined the major fraction which are straight-up scams with the majority of the non-scams that nonetheless fail, your chances of ending up with nothing was 92%, and of the remainder the only criterion was that you weren't left with nothing. Your odds of actually making a profit, or breaking even, were roughly the same as getting double boxcars on one throw of a pair of dice.

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    9. Re:Yep by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is totally the future!

      Yeah well, as long as it stays there, we have nothing to worry about.

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    10. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      more than 80% of ICOs were scams.

      20% of ICOs aren't known to be scams yet.

    11. Re:Yep by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      100% of ICOs are scams. If the cryptocurrency did anything new and had any intrinsic value anticipated over time the developers wouldn't offer an ICO, they would say "mine it yourself and trade when you want" then hold all they could for as long as they could.

    12. Re:Yep by sigmundur · · Score: 1

      Many do because mostly it's still amazing ROI. A collague started with small five figures and took home small six figures only a couple months later. Of course it's amazing ROI as long as the bubble is growing, but whatever. It still is.

    13. Re:Yep by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Why does anyone fall for this anymore?

      Are you asking why stupid and/or ignorant people exist? Because we put too many damn warning labels on things that's why!

    14. Re:Yep by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, 20% are TOTALLY legit, because cryptocurrencies are TOTALLY legit things. Just like AI and Deep Learning Neural Nets and autonomous driving. This is totally the future!

      You do realise that there are actual cryptocurrencies being used for actual transactions right?
      Just like Deep Learning is an actual thing which you likely assist in training multiple times a day and underpins pretty much most of the internet services you use. Incidentally one of the biggest companies into this also has over 5 million miles of unassisted autonomous driving under its belt.

      I do agree with one part of your sarcasm though. Whey you say "This is totally the future!" sarcastically, I agree. It's not the future.

      It's the now.

    15. Re: Yep by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      "Near working" doesn't mean "working". The first 80% of any idea can be easily to implement, but the last 20% can make it impossible. This is how people get fooled. Commercial fusion is another example.

    16. Re: Yep by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      Autonomous driving predictions from an AC who can't even get their phone to enter proper text. I'm not sold.

    17. Re:Yep by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      20% are cases where the entity offering the ICO is really trying to create a crypto-currency. The other 80% are cases where there is pure intent to defraud. Even if the outcomes end up the same (losing all of the invested money), they are much different situations.

    18. Re:Yep by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      Everything old is new again. It's pretty much the same sort of thing that happened in the early days of modern joint stock companies in UK and the Netherlands. I read about one case in those days, the company ran an ad saying they wanted investors for an enterprise they could not name or describe due to fear of competitors. There was such a rage back then they got people off the street handing them cash.

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    19. Re:Yep by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Ever wonder why the world despises you so much?

      You're getting ahead of yourself. The people who despise us have not taken over in Europe yet, though as this story shows they are well on the way to getting their Caliphate.

    20. Re:Yep by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      It's pretty much the same sort of thing that happened in the early days of modern joint stock companies in UK and the Netherlands.

      Especially in the Netherlands, but at least they ended up with fields of beautiful flowers.

    21. Re:Yep by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Having a stock offering was also apparently good for having wealthy and highborn women spend the night with you. "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" - still useful reading.

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  7. The guy sounds like a sleazy ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... third grade con-man 30 seconds into the presentation. LOL. This whole "I built my own crypto currency" bullshit is totally off the hook - feels like 2000 all over again, doesn't it?

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    1. Re:The guy sounds like a sleazy ... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      ... third grade con-man 30 seconds into the presentation. LOL.

      The reason con-men continue to sound like con-men is because it works to sound like a con-man. That is the sound that people.....trust.

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    2. Re:The guy sounds like a sleazy ... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      It sure as hell got Trump elected.

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      Advice for moderators: "Off-Topic" is *not* synonymous with "It sounds like he said something mean about the object of my hero-worship. BAWW."

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  8. I'd just like to take a moment to thank by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Funny

    the CEO of Savedroid for helping lower the price of graphics cards.

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  9. Re:Fraud? Can anyone prove it? by gravewax · · Score: 1

    If it was intended fraud from the start I would bet on him having an exit strategy and that by the time it was posted on his website he and the money were already long gone to a nice country with difficult extradition laws, 50 million is enough to quietly retire in luxury in a lot of very safe places. really comes down to how smart he is.

  10. Its like the IT version of "the producers" by voss · · Score: 1

    You can make more money with a flop than with a success.

    1. Re:Its like the IT version of "the producers" by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Don't know about that. The ratio [ money from scam ] / [ money from legit ideas ] might tell otherwise.

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  11. Re:All cryptocurrencies are scams! by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 1

    No shit, AnonSherlock

  12. Andy Fastow by Bobrick · · Score: 1

    When someone promises you investing into something will make you a millionaire, what they're really trying to say is "Invest in me so I can be a millionaire." That's all there is to it. The fine print reads: "Go fuck yourself".

    1. Re:Andy Fastow by vux984 · · Score: 1

      That's not a useful discriminator.

      When someone promises you investing into something will make you a millionaire, what they're really trying to say is "Invest in me so I can be a millionaire." That's all there is to it.

      Everyone pitching for money wants to get rich themselves, that's a given. There is nothing wrong that.

      If its a legit opportunity, you both get rich. That's why people invest.

    2. Re:Andy Fastow by Bobrick · · Score: 1

      Key point being a legit opportunity. An ICO is not a legit opportunity, not in 2018 and onwards.

    3. Re:Andy Fastow by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      As long as it is not forbidden by law, it is legit.
      Get a damn clue.

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    4. Re:Andy Fastow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      As someone said: an ICO is at best the purchase of a gift card for a shop that doesn’t exist yet, and may or may not actually be built. When someone issues an ICO (even a legit one) they are saying: “I want to raise capital but without any of the usual oversight, without any guarantees, and without having to give away any control or ownership of my company.” With an ICO you are not investing in a startup, you are subsidising them.

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    5. Re:Andy Fastow by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That's why it's never a legit opportunity.

      Only a few people get rich. (For "rich" to have any meaning, this has to be true.) They have to have something going for them more than the average person. They may be very lucky, or come from a wealthy family, or very talented, or have an unusually good idea. (Hard work can help, but there's far more hard workers than there are rich people.)

      So, when anyone tells you you're going to be rich, ask yourself what is so unusual about you that you're going to get rich. If it's nothing, then that anyone is lying to you. It takes some humility to be good at this, and that's not something everyone has. (Personally, I'm much better than most of the rest of you at humility.)

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    6. Re:Andy Fastow by vux984 · · Score: 1

      "So, when anyone tells you you're going to be rich, ask yourself what is so unusual about you that you're going to get rich. If it's nothing, then that anyone is lying to you"

      It's never what is unusual about me that matters. Its what is special about *them* that matters.

      Basically, its kind of like 'dragons den'. I'm going to speculate that very few on that show are "lying"; they all really think they have great ideas, and with some investment to realize them they'll be rich, and the investors ... well... richer.

      So those are all legit investments... but most of them would fail. Not because of fraud, they're just not good ideas. And then in the real world, yeah... in addition to legit investments that are bad ideas, you've also got actual fraudsters.

      The point being you can't tell a fraud from a real investment that will succeed from a real investment that will fail by asking yourself what is special about you, nor by checking whether they are promising that it will succeed. Because in all 3 cases they are identical.

      You have to assess them and their idea. And in the case of dragons den for example, they aren't throwing their money at the wall like a kickstarter -- if they invest they'll usually want management oversight and control etc so that bad management skills etc don't tank even the good ideas.

    7. Re:Andy Fastow by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      No, it's about you. Are you a known angel investor or venture capitalist? If so, people come to you with investment ideas as a matter of course. If you aren't, why is this person trying to get money out of you? Again, relatively few people get rich, so why you?

      I misused the word "legit", sorry. What I meant is that offers like that are not going to be good opportunities, unless there's something special about them - and, by extension, you.

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  13. Well managed? by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It ran for a number of months and was clearly well-managed as the group was able to open an office and appear at multiple events.

    If this is the kind of due diligence people do before investing(*) in crypto-currency, I see why so many people get scammed. "Well, they have an office, this company is clearly well-managed, must be legit".

    (*) And when I say "investing", I mean in the same way that someone feeding their paycheck into slot machines is "investing"

    1. Re:Well managed? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      I am heavily invested in lottery tickets, but now I'm worried. I should have checked to see if they have an office somewhere.

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  14. Finally a good use for Facebook by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    Wow, finally a potentially good use for Facebook and their photo tagging technology. Someone needs to upload and tag this guy in a photo and some where, somehow he will get tagged, bagged and hung out to dry. Once he is located, and the info gets out his days will be numbered, and I'd bet the number will be less than 50 million.

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    1. Re:Finally a good use for Facebook by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Maybe you'll find nothing on Facebook. I heard Zuckerberg just got 50 m richer.

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    2. Re:Finally a good use for Facebook by IsThisNickTaken · · Score: 1

      Given that 50 million days is ~137,000 years, I don't think anyone will take your bet...

  15. "Aannnd it's gone." by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Not sure about what investors thought about that message, but, as a non-investor, that's pretty funny.

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  16. Angry people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  17. Practically no risk by aepervius · · Score: 2

    I mean let us be honest, most if not all people which were taken have no resource to search for somebody like that world wide. And with 50 million, even washed down to 25 million, a team of 10 person can live a well financed live anywhere in the world without worry. The probability from a mafia guy being taken out of his money, is very low : mafia probably are the one organizing some of those scam to begin with. So i would say vigilant justice won't happen.

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  18. heck look at those post on coin forums by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Some of those EVEN after the scam is revealed, responded to a user which told"hell am waiting it is on a legit exchange - and I was right", the answer was "yes but you risk missing a 667% markup" ==== this is the type of "easy money" thinking which taken people taken for their money. Stupid.

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  19. Re:Fraud? Can anyone prove it? by gravewax · · Score: 1

    5 million is no where near enough. Hell that is my target number at the moment to provide a modest retirement, certainly couldn't do luxury on that, at least not without having to be very selective on your location

  20. "Investor" by demon+driver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Investor" is just a euphemism for a stupidly rich person who lives off others producing something valuable, making him even more stupidly rich just by waiting and making no big mistakes.

    "Crypto currency" is a scheme of some people who weren't stupidly rich before to become stupidly rich in the process, without anyone producing anything of real value at all.

    "Investors" investing in "crypto currency" getting scammed do indeed get what they deserve and what sooner or later will happen to virtually all investments in crypto currencies. They should even be thankful if it went quick this time. Although there's not much hope the intelligence-greed-coefficient of those who invested in the discussed case might let them learn something from it.

    1. Re:"Investor" by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      An "investor" is simply a person who isn't stupid enough to spend every penny they make.

  21. Hold the pitchforks a moment by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You might want to actually click the link to their page first.

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  22. AND IT'S NOT GONE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Looks like there's an update on the website: https://ico.savedroid.com/

  23. Buzzword bingo by DrYak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Need to somehow find a way to fit "3D Printing" into this and we win the buzzword bingo (and a sudden inrush of VC investements)

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    1. Re:Buzzword bingo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You still need drones and gig economy (even though those, and also 3d printing, start to get a bit long in the tooth).

  24. Update: Not gone by schure · · Score: 4, Informative

    The site has been updated with a message about the danger of ICO scams, the need for reform, and apologies for the scam simulation.

    1. Re:Update: Not gone by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Or maybe the site was updated with a message designed to delay pursuit while the miscreants continue to skedaddle.

      How would you know? At least, until some time had passed.

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  25. Apparently "not" scam but "PR stunt"... by Varcain · · Score: 2

    So the CEO made a video explaining that this was just a stunt to increase ICO scam awareness, and they are offering ICO advisory now (http://anditsg.one/)... seriously you couldn't make this s**t up!

  26. "AND IT'S NOT GONE" by kkoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's back, with the boss giving a big speech on how it was meant as a warning to investors to watch for scams, and since his isn't then you should invest in his scheme.

    1. Re:"AND IT'S NOT GONE" by quenda · · Score: 1

      If with all the publicity from this stunt, he raises another $100mil, and then posts "AND THIS TIME IT'S REALLY GONE. SUCKERS!", I will pee myself with schadenfreude.

  27. Sign up now! by Tom · · Score: 1

    Invest in my ICO where you can invest in a mutually funded community pool to secure ICO insurance in to cover all your other ICO investments that you are afraid will go away, too.

    Not a scam. Promise(*)

    (*) limited term offer, null where void, not applicable in your jurisdiction

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  28. Not a scam FWIW by cristiroma · · Score: 2

    The site is back online and he did explain actually that was an experiment showing how easy was to manipulate.

  29. Hmm, their website says it's not gone by gotan · · Score: 2

    Their explanation is, that this was a PR-Stunt.

    Make of it what you will.

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  30. obCasablanca by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    I am shocked, shocked that fake "currencies" would attract anything less than totally honest characters.

    (Your cryptocurrency winnings sir)

    Thank you.

  31. Re:Fraud? Can anyone prove it? by Whibla · · Score: 1

    150 thousand a year (from a no risk investment of 5 million) is a modest retirement?

    Wow! I sometimes wonder if I live on the same planet as some of the posters here. :-/

  32. has anyone clicked on the link to their site? by rbgnr111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This looks to me more like a promotional stunt. Going to their site it looks like they are trying to use this to promote their token. The video there looked to me more like they were warning about the risks of many ICO's and the type of exit that many take.

    I'm not promoting them in any way, I do think that a lot of these ico's are very scammy, and like any investment you need to do your own work to verify that it actually is a good investment.

  33. Re:An honest bloke! by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    The ultimate honesty was the founder of PonziCoin. Even with that name and openly admitting it, they still got takers.

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  34. ICO was a great game! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    The PS2 game Ico was great. It even got remastered for the PS3.

    Oh wait, you mean ICO = Initial Coin Offering.

    Hey, fucktard /. editors, how about doing your fucking JOB and describing an acronym the first time it is used. Oh wait, that would involve actual work.

    After 20+ years you STILL can't do this?

    You had ONE job ... *facepalm*

    Yes, I'm not new here -- and I'll keep kvitching about their incompetence.

  35. Aaaaand ... It's NOT! by Toad-san · · Score: 1

    Just checked the "currently displaying" link, South Park image is gone, new image saying it's NOT gone, "check this space", etc.

    Who knows? But you can bet your bottom dollar (if you have one left) that I won't be sending them any money :-)

  36. Wait for it - https://ico.savedroid.com/ by gx5000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    AND IT'S NOT GONE

    https://ico.savedroid.com/

    savedroid was here, is here, and will be here. Aaand savedroid is all in for establishing high quality ICO standards.

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  37. Re:Fraud? Can anyone prove it? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

    150 thousand a year (from a no risk investment of 5 million) is a modest retirement?

    Wow! I sometimes wonder if I live on the same planet as some of the posters here. :-/

    It's all relative. In 2038 150k/year is the equivalent of a 90k/year salary today (using 2.5% inflation. I used this site: here) Which for Podunk may be a good number, Minneapolis I would barely call that a modest income, if you are looking at New York City that's pretty much barely scraping by.

  38. And slashdot just got trolled... by CoolCash · · Score: 1

    AND IT'S NOT GONE https://ico.savedroid.com/

  39. Not quite by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Crypto Currencies value is predicated on black market goods and services. e.g. Drugs, Prostitution, Ransomware and money laundering. People buy crypto currency to purchase illegal things. These things are highly desirable so the person buying is willing to take the risks. As for the seller, the product's cost is negligible but an artificially constricted supply means they can charge so much for it that the risk of getting stuck with worthless currency can be mitigated by charging 3, 5 or even 10 -20 times the raw cost of the product.

    The black market created a floor of value for crypto currency. Once that grew large enough speculators moved in and drove up the value.

    The real risk is that the government will clamp down on the illegal activity or (worse) make the activity legal (e.g. legalize drugs and prostitution, the latter two examples aren't likely to be legalized).

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  40. Re:Fraud? Can anyone prove it? by gravewax · · Score: 1

    if you are on the run you won't have 5 million, you have to have it laundered and in highly mobile non siezable investments. you won't be getting 150k a year from it.

  41. Re:APK gets no respect by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Lowered himself...as opposed to what he was doing before?

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  42. Re:APK gets no respect by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

    He hasn't lowered himself, he can't possibly go any lower than where he has been for who knows how long. Here's an example. It only takes him 3 messages to start calling people fools, idiots, fleas, and making random all-caps threats. That was 18 years ago. So, no, he hasn't lowered himself anywhere because he's been at that same level for about 2 decades, if not his entire 55 or so year life. If he replied to this message, he would no doubt have words to say about the people in that thread still today, because he does not emotionally progress. His emotional development stopped somewhere in elementary school and hasn't gone anywhere. Incidentally, that's also why he doesn't get any respect. He's worked very hard at not having any respect, he's earned that. He was earning it 18 years ago in that thread, and whenever I see him here he still makes an effort to earn it.

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