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Microsoft Is Talking About Acquiring GitHub, Says Report (zdnet.com)

The Welcome Rain shares a report from ZDNet: Microsoft officials have been talking to GitHub about possibly acquiring the company, according to a June 1 report in Business Insider. BI claims that the two have discussed the possibility of an acquisition on an on-and-off-again basis over the years "but in the last few weeks talks have grown more serious." BI is citing unnamed "people close to the companies" as its sources. "This isn't as surprising as it would have been ten or more years ago," writes The Welcome Rain. "Microsoft is investing a lot in git, including GVFS, a Git Virtual File System to help Git work with very large codebases. What might this mean for the future of Github?"

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  1. Zombie by gigne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A few years ago I would have said it is the end of GitHub. Now it is most likely to be turned into a zombie

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    1. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no, it wont be that bad, it will just auto update all repos, insert ad's into every code and break on every 2nd tuesday in a month...

    2. Re:Zombie by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, it's better than being acquired by Oracle. At least Microsoft lets things die a slow death and eventually pulls the plug, pushing people to a new product,instead of pretending to support a product while refusing to update it, meanwhile pulling a few key features from it to further bloat their database offerings.

    3. Re:Zombie by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      We use their paid version at work. It's okay... But lacks some basic features, like a way to organize your 300+ repos in some sensible way.

      Honestly if Microsoft spur some development of the site it would be welcome. The industry seems to have stagnated a bit - all the rivals like GitLab and Bitbucket are pretty much clones of GitHub and while they have some interesting features there isn't really anything radically different.

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    4. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only benefit is to the owner of GitHub. They get a big payday. Other than that, you're pretty much fucked.

    5. Re:Zombie by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      A few years ago I would have said it is the end of GitHub. Now it is most likely to be turned into a zombie

      That seems reasonable...
      If GitHub lets this happen they should already be out seeking BRAINS ...

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    6. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't you use a script or a program? I'm pretty sure it can be done, I made a program that downloads and updates my dependencies (some from github, others from cvs and others are simple tar files in ftp and/or html websites).

    7. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is github going to be the new codeplex?
      Remember codeplex? of course you don't.

    8. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...if Microsoft spur some development of the site it would be welcome.

      That is hilarious. Should I try the veal?

    9. Re: Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have 300 repos you're using it wrong.

    10. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Gitlab is radically different.

      1. It's open source. It's code, not just someone ELSEs website. You can have your own gitlab. If you don't think this is radical, you're wrong.

      2. It has built in CI. This is important, because it's integrated and it works great. Combined with your OWN gitlab, and your OWN runners, it's infrastructure you should be running for yourself, if your core business is writing software.

    11. Re: Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an individual, I have > 100. Few are forks. The whole point of easing the use of vcs (through web front-ends and distribution to allow offline work and all those Good Things) is so that there's as little friction as possible against keeping code safe. Every little idea should get a repository - these are not the days of fat, stupid vcs systems like SourceSafe, though there certainly are enough people trying to shove every little thing into one repo, which must makes it shit to work with.

  2. Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand LinkedIn actually got less obnoxious since MS bought them so let's see what happens.

    1. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Mattcelt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This has not been my experience in any way, shape, form, or manner.

      Linkedin has become absolutely insufferable since Microsoft acquired them.

    2. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. It's worse.

    3. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is definitely worse, I ignore it entirely at this point. I would also stop using Github for different reasons, just on principle. MS needs to slink off into the night and be happy with its monopoly on dumb users who need invasive IT support.

    4. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by novakyu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Has become"? When was LinkedIn not insufferable, with their constant reminder of contact requests that I was ignoring in the first place (and didn't want to log into their website to officially ignore)?

    5. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "monopoly on dumb users who need invasive IT support"
      Name any widely deployed software platform or application that doesn't have dumb users. And would you be surprised to find out that the majority of those "dumb" users need IT tech support because their chosen software platform and applications are riddled with bugs of one kind or another? Then it becomes the "dumb" programmers who are causing all the problems. And judging by some of the imbecilic comments littering this site the wanna be tech gurus do not have a clue about their field of study.

    6. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] And would you be surprised to find out that the majority of those "dumb" users need IT tech support because their chosen software platform and applications are riddled with bugs of one kind or another? Then it becomes the "dumb" programmers who are causing all the problems. And judging by some of the imbecilic comments littering this site the wanna be tech gurus do not have a clue about their field of study.

      You totally missed the point. Dumb users mean us dumb programmers will have to try to fix our shit all by ourselves. At least when we have smarter users, there's a good chance they'll post a patch, or at least describe their issues somewhat sensibly... so after a few years of not doing anything about it, we can ask some new guy to maybe try to solve it.

    7. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. The amount of useless spam Linkedin is now pushing is just too much. Every single day they think I will open and read their daily spam. Do they really believe, that annoying people every day is getting them any more users?
      The Linkedin is there to keep a CV visible and help when people are changing jobs. It is not a platform with strong daily engagement what their business department believes and wants it to be.

      If MS buys Github, the amount of spam will explode, as the daily 100 PR notification messages will now come with 200 important messages from MS' partners.

    8. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Do they really believe, that annoying people every day is getting them any more users?

      Yes

      Like the 419'ers use illiteracy to shake out people who are insufficiently gullible, MS/LinkedIn use spam to shake out the kind of people who might have some resistance to advertising.

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  3. Hahahaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good luck suckers, I mean put all your 'code' up on a website! Good for Microsoft, buy up all those juicy snippets of code.

    1. Re:Hahahaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's also caused a problem for units in my organization that can't tell the difference between a public and private repository. They've uploaded api keys and other really sensitive secrets like database passwords. Dummies. I wouldn't post that stuff online even if I though the repo was private. I use my own servers for git. Like a real man (or woman) does.https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/06/01/2034202/microsoft-is-talking-about-acquiring-github-says-report#

  4. What does this mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It means it's time to migrate your projects and close your Github account.

    1. Re:What does this mean? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      At the very least I think it is safe to say this would be good news for gitlab!

    2. Re:What does this mean? by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, created an account there just to camp on my username. I'm not migrating from GitHub *yet*, but I will jump at the first mention of "migrating to windows".

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    3. Re:What does this mean? by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Agreed, created an account there just to camp on my username. I'm not migrating from GitHub *yet*, but I will jump at the first mention of "migrating to windows".

      Good idea. I just did the same (different from my /. username).

  5. Approve my Pull Request ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates wants to Merge Github into the master branch.

    1. Re: Approve my Pull Request ! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      I may have agreed, but I donâ(TM)t believe he is the one approving pull requests.

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  6. What would it mean for VSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For those of us that work on VSTS based systems and like everything all together, this is actually bad news.

    I LIKE the calmness of VSTS over GitHub. (Sure, for social / open development, GitHub is great. For private, within the organisation? VSTS is just plain calmer.) Problem is, there will be this push to use private GitHub for things that are just easier in VSTS. And, often, what is technologically the best isn't really what matters, it's what people are paying attention to.

    1. Re:What would it mean for VSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since I had no idea wtf you were talking about I looked it up, so now others won't have to.

      VSTS - Visual Studio Team Services

      It's some kind of Microsoft thing for development using all the Microsoft stuff you don't care about.

    2. Re:What would it mean for VSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's for people that have work to get done rather than reinventing wheels in OSS. :-) Think of it as GitHub / BitBucket + Trello + AppVeyor + Jira all in one fairly consistent U/I (code, work, build management and deployment management all on one platform. Yes, hosted build engine as well as hosted bug tracking and hosted source code control.)

      It's used by obscure little things like "Windows" and "Xbox" and stuff like that.. (Seriously, they're Git, but they're not GitHub. They're Git on Visual Studio Team System/Visual Studio Online.)

      www.visualstudio.com

    3. Re: What would it mean for VSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've been forced to use VSTS for CI in a docker/azure solution. Its fucking bad, folks. Do not touch.

    4. Re: What would it mean for VSTS? by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Bad in what way?

    5. Re: What would it mean for VSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The absolute worst UI in the world for tracking tasks; the absolute most overthought model for permissions (âoeit should be like AD, right guys? Tons of hierarchical groups, etc?â); all different activities like bugs, stories, tasks, tests share the same bad âoegeneric!â UI. I could go on, but I escaped it, thankfully.

    6. Re: What would it mean for VSTS? by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      I've only used VSTS so far and haven't had too much trouble doing any of that. What's better and why?

  7. It means Github is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    I, for one, welcome our Embrace, Extend, Extinguish overloards.

    (he says while migrating to a superior free git repo host that already permits closed source projects, docker, and continuous integration.)

  8. It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is a master in killing off good services and scaring away users by bad product management.

    1. Re: It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by viperidaenz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      LinkedIn was shit before Microsoft bought it.

    2. Re: It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LinkedIn was shit before Microsoft bought it.

      Agreed. I have never received a job offer via LinkedIn. All I get is spam and ads.

    3. Re:It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by Locutus · · Score: 1

      You forgot how much better they made the Danger phone/OS.

      LoB

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    4. Re: It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by rnturn · · Score: 1

      That may be but at least before Microsoft bought LinkedIn they weren't going out of their way to be a Facebook clone. For me that became obvious that that was the direction MS wanted to go when they made the default LI feed ordering to be the "Top" (i.e., most "Liked") posts---you can change that to "Recent" but you can't make the change your personal default. As for it's job leads... that's rather gone downhill as well. I actually still get the occasional call from someone who's seen my LI profile. I still recall the days when LI was the preferred--even exclusive--site for some companies and recruiters to post job ads, sometimes using LI as the exclusive site for some job postings. Those days seem to be long gone but I noticed that this was happening even before MS got a hold of them. Nowadays, a good half of the communications I get on LI is from Indian recruiters wanting to join my network. I.e., spam.

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  9. Reason enough for immediate account deletion by ffkom · · Score: 0

    ... if this should ever happen. And exactly because I never wanted to have relevant data fall into the hands of an evil corporation like M$, I did not use anything besides pure public git hosting at github - a function that can easily be transferred elsewhere, as the data in the git repository itself is the only content.

    1. Re:Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Came here to read exactly that type comment from slashdotters. Was not disappointed.

      You're such a predictable bunch.

    2. Re:Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't worry anything you've ever put there is backed up, for safety and future monetization, it's probably in the TOS when you signed up, lolololololol

    3. Re: Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Slurp*slurp*slurp*

    4. Re:Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they already can grab it "smart guy", IT IS PUBLIC !!

    5. Re: Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because we're right.

      But keep on being lovestock, blackeyer.

    6. Re: Reason enough for immediate account deletion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're proving my point.

  10. Team Services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like Team Services isnt taking off..?

  11. Uh ohhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's going to be a LOT of unemployed diversity hires once MS cleans house!

    1. Re:Uh ohhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if they were hired just due to diversity rules... which I very much doubt.

    2. Re:Uh ohhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean twice the jobs as the next email from github.com will be from some Rajneesh Pushkar Malahundra

  12. Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RIP GIT :(

    I will never, EVER, link Github to some god damned Microsoft Live ID. Time to start mirroring to Gitlab I guess.

    Always thought GITHUB was Google IT Hub.

    1. Re:Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but at least sourceforge is good again https://sourceforge.net/blog/i...

    2. Re:Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not a chance. I remember when Sourceforge was a decent place. Now? Slathered in ads, ads in the downloads, those hideous add-ons in the downloads. Honestly, CVS is still sane, despite being old. OpenBSD still thrives there, as do many, many others. GitHub, while not "new" is still the new shiny for so many coders. I keep my code in my own private tree. I do commits, merges, etc., and keep my code to myself. Even the code I write for work has backup copies in my private tree if I leave. Code re-use, baby, code re-use. Anything worth writing is worth keeping. Since I primarily write tools for my colleagues, I may use them again at a later job.

    3. Re:Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      amen to that!

      I'm pretty happy that I never left. sad to see the CVS/SVN repositories go, but nice that I can do sane binary releases for end users, and it not look like 21century ASS like github.

    4. Re:Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new owners removed the deceptive ads and the bundled adware in 2016. At least SF has a revenue model that will keep them around indefinitely, unlike GitHub https://news.ycombinator.com/i...

    5. Re: Sourceforge and DICE all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure your employers will jump for joy once they discover their subordinate took off with their code in order to benefit a potential competitor.

  13. Bad idea by c++horde · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a former Microsoft developer, I can tell you, this is a really bad idea. Microsoft internally has one of the best revision control systems I've ever used (Source Depot), so we know they won't use it, but they will control how source code is managed and he who controls the keys to the repository also controls the builds. I vote really, really bad idea. Start moving your projects back to SourceForge.

    1. Re:Bad idea by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Microsoft has good build tools. They have build chains that build onto iOS and Android (mostly to try to tempt people into also building for Windows Phone).

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    2. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      As a former Microsoft developer, I can tell you, this is a really bad idea. Microsoft internally has one of the best revision control systems I've ever used (Source Depot), so we know they won't use it, but they will control how source code is managed and he who controls the keys to the repository also controls the builds.

      I vote really, really bad idea. Start moving your projects back to SourceForge.

      The Windows code base is already hosted on Git. It was migrated from Source Depot to Git and in the process GVFS was created to allow Git to scale. This is no secret, it's been reported in the news for over a year.

    3. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      GitHub to SourceForge import tool: https://sourceforge.net/p/forg...

    4. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Source Depot is no more - Windows is now built using Git

      https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/61pnmv/source_depot_is_no_more_windows_is_now_built/

    5. Re:Bad idea by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you haven't worked there for a while. Source Depot is pretty much abandonware at this point, and only a few teams with a lot of legacy dependencies are using it. Most teams are moving to git.

      Have you noticed all the tight git integration occurring in Visual Studio, or how Microsoft has actually been contributing to git to improve performance on extremely large projects? It's because all their internal teams are using git, and we get the integration as a benefit.

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    6. Re:Bad idea by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Man WTH is up with Microsoft? Someone way high up there seems to be able to mess up a wet dream. They had infopath which wasn't that bad. I know a number of people, even recently that were developing on it only to find out it's gone and Microsoft wouldn't even tell them that it's abandoned. They just would never get back to them. I keep reading and finding out about things like this. Maybe they have too many Harvard MBAs on staff?

      Now they want to spread their incompetence to other areas? Wonderful. Seems like more and more we're being ruled by fools. At least we got one big fool out of the white house.

    7. Re:Bad idea by Xest · · Score: 1

      Well you're right you're certainly not a current employee at least because Microsoft has been using Git for years and embracing open source internally for just as long. Once Nadella took over this moved from side project to wholesale way of working. Microsoft now has a massive interest in Git succeeding because they've bet their horse on it.

      I'm surprised even as a former employee you don't know this, even former employees tend to know what their ex employers are doing through past colleagues, especially ones with the size and influence of Microsoft.

  14. hmm by supernova87a · · Score: 1

    So, if Microsoft is ambiguous about how it intends to handle people's confidential projects / personal code repos, and someone "deleted" all their content and wants to leave, will that actually be deleted or available to Microsoft? Hm.

    1. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes

  15. Not invented here syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever happened to the not invented here syndrome? That's the impetus for innovation and multiple competing products!!!!

    munch

  16. This trial balloon is a thud. DO NOT WANT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This trial balloon is a thud. DO NOT WANT.

  17. Oohhhh nnnoooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another cool and working well tool that will became cr@p like all other products acquired by MS

  18. Poison pill please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time for some kind of poison pill on githubs side.

  19. Microsoft kills products over time by mejustme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What an incredibly effective way to piss off a large set of developers! The early adopters of git obviously were non-microsoft devs. Just discussing this now will be seen as a very serious threat to most of that population subset. Just look at any other product MS has purchased over the years to see what happened to the linux (or non-MS) version 1-2 years after the purchase.

    E.g., anyone had any trouble using Skype in Linux over the last year, versus 3-5 years ago?

    How long would it take before access to github is integrated into VisualStudio, and how long after that will the command-line version of git start failing to pull/push/etc to github? "Pull must be performed from within VisualStudio Team Explorer. Command-line version of git is no longer supported. Please upgrade to VisualStudio 2020."

    1. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just the annoying hints and patronising pop-up menus like "Do you really want to quit skype? Doing so means you won't be able to receive updates from your contacts". As if they think I don't know what I'm doing.

      Any time any application has been bought over by a large social media company, it has had advanced features removed and replaced by social media news feeds.

    2. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by PmanAce · · Score: 1

      Git is already supported by VS, what is the problem?

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    3. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by mejustme · · Score: 1

      Git is already supported by VS, what is the problem?

      The problem is when Visual Studio becomes the *only* way to access it.

    4. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by PmanAce · · Score: 1

      That is not going to happen, why would they do that? They are open-sourcing .net core, not going the other way.

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    5. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "why would they do that?"

      Because they are Microsoft and they live and die by NIH. That is why they have strangled so may other projects they acquired. They are even better at destroying other peoples work then Oracle, and that is world class competition.

      In Microsoft Land the sequence is acquisition => integration => brain death. For example if they buy GitHub then they will "integrate" it with Linkedin, and it will be like using Facebook as a development platform. Good luck with that.

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    6. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      E.g., anyone had any trouble using Skype in Linux^W^W over the last year, versus 3-5 years ago?

      FTFY. It's been astounding to me how they have somehow managed to make a video chat app nearly impossible to use for video chatting.

    7. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

      "why would they do that?"

      Because they are Microsoft and they live and die by NIH. That is why they have strangled so may other projects they acquired.

      Yeah... about that. So go back in time to 2003 (or so) when a small company called Navision up and sold their ERP solution Axapta to Microsoft. Fast-forward to today, and Axapta 3 has morphed into the Azure-hosted Dynamics 365. The original codebase is still there, but it's a vastly superior product and expanded product.

      They acquired it; they improved it out of sight!

    8. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Git itself is still GPL'd. They can't distribute modified (or unmodified) versions without also providing the source code. Which means that any changes they make to provide a "special" version can easily be taken up by the folks who make the command-line version.

      And even if they could, the result, if they tried such a thing, would be to fragment the community. Which is Github's main asset. Git, if you recall, is a distributed system. There's no need for a central point. A site like Github is merely a convenience for users. The only real benefit of Github is its community. If they damage that, they damage Github, but don't harm Git, because Git users aren't locked into Github.

      Lots of big projects (including lots of big enterprise-y projects that MS customers care about) are already hosted on other sites, especially Gitlab. Plenty of big projects (including lots of big enterprise-y projects that MS customers care about) are cross-platform, and would quickly move to something else (e.g. Gitlab) if Github tried to turn MS-only. There simply isn't enough leverage there for MS to do anything nefarious at this stage.

      Granted, I'd be watching like a hawk for their next move if they bought Github. But this move by itself doesn't really seem to give them any real opportunities, beyond the obvious of making money off of all the commercial projects hosted on Github.

      (And frankly, if they do buy Github, I predict a lot of projects move to Gitlab or some other site anyway, as a just-in-case measure. Probably not enough to damage Github, but enough to help drive the point home: we're not locked in, guys.)

    9. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      The notion that MS would somehow lock out command-line access to GitHub or turn it into a MS or Visual Studio-only product is absurd, if for no other reason than it would screw over MS devs just as badly as everyone else. Yeah, shocker, a lot of MS and Windows devs use command line tools as well, and a lot of their stuff is on GitHub.

      I mean, MS is moving in the complete opposite direction, making Windows work better with Linux tools, Visual Studio targeting multiple platforms and using multiple toolchains, and releasing Electron-based cross-platform apps like VS Code. Even .NET has been open sourced.

      I'm not saying I like this idea of this acquisision, but I don't see why they'd want to kill GitHub. This isn't the year 2000, and Linux and open source are no longer their boogeyman. Microsoft is literally in the business of renting and managing Linux servers, and it's a massive revenue source for them.

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    10. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GitHub is not Git.

    11. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Well, possibly because Microsoft does this shit over and over again. They've made Skype suck in Linux. They spent tons of money releasing "Windows Store" exclusive things- never mind the extra sales they would get on a tiny base like Linux, why are they willing to leave Windows 7 and 8 on the ground, or even Windows 10 users who don't want the store?

      I don't know that they will mess it up. But boy it sure seems risky.

    12. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      buying github is like naming your ice tea company blockchain ;)

    13. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats just one division bro. dont be a follower

    14. Re: Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big deal. They dont "improve" anything that isn't a subscription based service they are seeking to monopolize. Do they?

    15. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Git itself is still GPL'd. They can't distribute modified (or unmodified) versions without also providing the source code. Which means that any changes they make to provide a "special" version can easily be taken up by the folks who make the command-line version.

      They do not have to distribute a modified Git, but an implementation of the Git protocol. There are many such implementations already available (e.g. Dulwich which is a pure-Python re-implementation of Git).

    16. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you've never heard of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish?

    17. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original codebase is still there

      Is anything from the original still there? Wasn't 365 a complete rewrite of the AOS to become a web-application? The client is gone. The development environment is Visual Studio. Some X++ is still there, but that itself changed significantly from AX 3.

    18. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      Hence the 2nd through nth paragraphs of my post, pointing out all the negatives to MS and Github were they to attempt any such thing.

      It would be a huge amount of work to implement their not-quite-Git from scratch, and nobody is locked into Github, so I can't see anything they could gain from all that effort. If they make Github incompatible with many of its users, many projects will simply move off of Github. Because, again, nobody is locked into Github.

    19. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by PmanAce · · Score: 1

      They bought Minecraft and integrated into what again? Hotmail is still around, so are Skype, Xamarin, LinkedIn, etc. What are your examples?

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  20. Google Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please, reanimate it. All I want is my little Subversion based system for a few people.

    1. Re:Google Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I want is my little Subversion based system for a few people.

      Then how about you go set up your dumb little subversion based system for a few people? It's free software ffs

  21. Big no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For Microsoft to be in charge of so much code is an existantial threat. The only thing worse if Microsoft takes over the Linux or BSD git repos or buys out the Wikimedia Foundation.

    1. Re:Big no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but.. Microsoft <3 Linux remember?!? lololol

  22. Goodbye by Misagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have already said goodbye to Skype and Linked-In after they had been taken over.
    If this happens, I would say goodbye to Github too for sure.

    The users of Github are not sheep. They are not like Microsoft's typical users that would accept lock-in and clunky interfaces because they don't know any better.

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    1. Re:Goodbye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The users of Github are not sheep.

      Is that a joke? Most people use Github because other people use Github, they go with the herd. (same reason that most use Git itself, but that's a different story)

    2. Re:Goodbye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second that! Goodbye, Github. It's been great and I'll miss yeah, but I just can't trust my secret repositories to Micro$ucks. I dumped LinkedIn and Skype after their takeover and glad I did. Would be the same here.

      Gotta go set up a Gitlab account. See ya...

  23. A bunch of psychotic assholes buying up another bu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nch of psychotic assholes. Shit the same.

  24. Gitlab here I come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not interested in trying to fight MS when they decide what is mine is theirs.

  25. Hello GitLab! by lophophore · · Score: 1

    If Microsoft buys GitHub, I am moving all my code to GitLab or Bitbucket.

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    1. Re:Hello GitLab! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Microsoft buys GitHub, I am moving all my code to GitLab or Bitbucket.

      You and everyone else.

      You can't buy the users, because they can just stop using. You'd think they'd have learned that from their other acquisitions by now.

    2. Re:Hello GitLab! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firstly, You overestimate users. If users care about their privacy and freedom, they are not even using GitHub.
      It's not about freedom users, it's about data, control over open-source repos and paid users.
      Also, it's about other services which are tightly coupled with github, like waffle.io or shit like that. They are the customers that microsoft would like a piece of.

    3. Re:Hello GitLab! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Microsoft buys GitHub, I am moving all my code to GitLab or Bitbucket.

      The GitHub --> GitLab migration tools work very well:

      https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/import/github.html

    4. Re:Hello GitLab! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gitlab, because:
          - it has an open source version
          - with both the opensource and enterprise version, you can run on your own server.
          - docker-compose.yml available to get a gitlab instance up in minutes

      Not Bitbucket, please:
      - made by Atlassian
      Why is Atlassian bad?
          - confluence used to be a wiki server. Now there is no wiki. it is a xml based wysiwyg document editor.
          - confluence is not source control backed (not git backed). If you delete a file, it is lost.
          - the plugin market in jira/confluence appears to encourage to be a rip off. even the most trivial plugins cost an arm and a leg. Compare that the jenkins which has as thriving plugin selection, all free.
          - still no oauth2 support in jira and confluence. This is likely the main reason why companies start using crappy hacks like okta for "single signon" rather than Oauth2 which is a standard just for that.
          - reasonable alternatives exists
              - confluence - pick anything else. use the markdown editor built in to Gitlab, or use wikimedia engine or anything in between
            - jira - use the simple issue and kanban/sprint boards in Gitlab, or use something more complex like openproject.

      Here is the way companies use Atlassian.

      Everyone is using JIRA, so we should.
      Confluence is well integrated with JIRA, so we should use that. (in reality, it is very independent, and there is little integration, nor is it needed).
      And Bitbucket. It works well with JIRA too right? (Gitlab and Github both have hooks for JIRA).
      Hipchat - Let's make accounting easier, and just write one giant check, even though there are 20 other packages that do the same thing.

  26. Import GitHub to SourceForge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    SourceForge has an importer that will import your GitHub project https://sourceforge.net/p/forg...

    1. Re: Import GitHub to SourceForge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sourceforge's track record is even worse than MS's. They've been injecting malware into your code for fuck sake.

  27. Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    QuarterDeck, OS/2, Xenix.

    But Google kills off just as much. Remember the much-loved Google-Reader? Wave? Google-Talk?

    I was a paying skype customer before MSFT.
    I was a paying Nokia Maemo customer, before MSFT.
    I was an early adopter for LinkedIn.

    Cancelled my accounts in each, when Microsoft broke each of them.

    1. Re: Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minecraft is turning to shit as well

    2. Re: Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minecraft is turning to shit as well

      They bought it for way too much money way too late for it to make any difference. The fad was basically over by the time they came around.

    3. Re:Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      All of your examples of Google killing off stuff were Google-developed stuff, that presumably was killed off because it either failed - or Google developed something else that suited their purposes better (if not, admittedly, always the users').

      The Microsoft examples discussed here were all acquisitions of popular services that, presumably, were bought by Microsoft to keep them from developing into a threat - or, I guess, to compete with Google or Amazon in cases where they had something similar. One case is unfortunate, the other is anticompetitive.

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    4. Re:Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I looked up Quarterdeck : they're the ones who did QEMM and DesqView.

      Well yes it got killed by Windows 95 and up, although wikipedia says they released a version of QEMM for Windows 98! (I used EMM386.EXE with Windows 98SE, and had EMS memory which was used by the Xwing game I think plus well over 600K of conventional)

      I never used Desqview at all, but I'm fascinated there exists a DESQview/X which is the same with an X server (X11R5 I think). I would have loved an X server for DOS a few years ago, although for hobbyist reasons or just because I can.

  28. I written Microsoft off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    until I started using Visual Studio Code. It is just so much better than Github's own editor. No competition. Now I run VSC on both my Linux workstation and my Macbook (both of which I started using to ditch the MS malware OS).

    Anyway, VS Code is fantastic and it understands having different git repositories in a single project. I would actually be interested in seeing what they do with github, but I'm not a serious github user anyway. I've only ever used it so that I could say that I have.

    1. Re:I written Microsoft off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like you, I use VSC for all of my PowerShell scripts that I have even written. I don't use GitHub, thought. I don't want my code out there. While I do value openness in systems, my own code stays private. I primarily am a tool writer for myself and my colleagues to make our jobs easier.

  29. Git by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtyO4tmpPdk

  30. Host your own? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    It's pretty easy to set up your own git repo... I don't understand why more people don't do it.

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    1. Re:Host your own? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because github is not just the repo, but a whole community of users that have accounts and can contribute.

    2. Re:Host your own? by Xtifr · · Score: 2

      Github offers a lot more than just git. But yeah, few projects would have much difficulty moving to another system, like, say, Gitlab, if Github went rogue. Which makes me doubt that MS has any plans to turn Github rogue. There's simply not enough lock-in there.

    3. Re:Host your own? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're not talking about strictly personal projects, that means managing your own internet-facing servers. What could possibly go wrong with an amateur doing that?

      GitHub is free for open source projects, and most everyone knows about it and knows how to use it. What's not to like? One of the great things about git is the fact that you always have a copy of the entire repo locally, which means lock-in is pretty much impossible.

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    4. Re:Host your own? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there's one company stupid enough to either not realize this, or to realize this and still try...

    5. Re:Host your own? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're not talking about strictly personal projects, that means managing your own internet-facing servers. What could possibly go wrong with an amateur doing that?

      At least some of us already manage internet-facing servers for a living. And while no protocol is problem-free, ssh should be easier to keep secure than most.

      But that’s mainly speaking to the people who use GitHub for work purposes. Adding a web interface, like you’d probably want to do for community projects, would indeed increase the degree of difficulty.

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  31. Pls No by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    I get that they don't have good code in VSO to train their self-programming AI's on (just a bunch of business code with shitloads of patchwork by lots of maintenance devs - a true mess.) I also get that they want to stick stuff into GitHub's EULA bypassing any open source license or patent rights for themselves when code is uploaded to GitHub. But not a fucking chance will I continue using it if that traitorous corporation of so-pc-they-actually-fire-entire-departments-for-being-"too-white" globalist h1b hacks buys it out.

  32. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting that I can't tell which one it is in this case.

  33. Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First Hotmail, and now GitHub...

  34. Code Assistant looks over your code by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    to see if any of it could be used to remove DRM.
    It looks like your trying to share code that will circumvent DRM...

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  35. Lucky for us GitLab exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cloud or self-hosted git : https://about.gitlab.com/

  36. You only THINK you quit Linked in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check your Android phone, it typically will have some sort of mini Microsoft office apps on it, and those snarf your address book including email addresses. So you only think you gave up on Linked In but Microsoft continues to snarf your data for their giant professional data snarfing website..

  37. Admiral Akbar said it best... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

    “I am NOT a giant fish!” Oh, wait...

    ...that wasn’t the quote I was looking for. It can go about its business. Move along.

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  38. Like Skype by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    Once Microsoft bought it, Skype turned into the default business communication tool, but everybody else ran away.

    If they buy GitHub, businesses will use it for their own development teams. But the rest of us will probably go to Bitbucket or elsewhere.

  39. What's a good alternative? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Just to be ready for MS' take over!

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    1. Re:What's a good alternative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gitlab. Plus Gitlab is better with their free accounts for group work, so I moved there years ago anyway.

    2. Re:What's a good alternative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:What's a good alternative? by dyfet · · Score: 1

      Indeed there are a number of advantages to gitlab presently. And most importantly if gitlab were also taken over, that codebase is free for anyone to use and setup their own gitlab instance. Because git handles multiple remotes, it is also possible to be on both sites for visibility, and that makes it easy to leave either one of them, too...

      For me the concern is with golang, which uses the actual git repo host as part of the source path of your local code. To migrate that entire eco system cleanly does not seem trivial.

  40. Re:Embrace, Extend, Extinquish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure why you got down modded. Sure this is a pretty extreme view, but who really gives a crap whether you do this or not. Somone's an asshole and it's not you.

  41. Host your own...bar. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running Gitlab off of Docker, so it's really easy. Linking separate instances is also very easy.

  42. R.I.P. by stooo · · Score: 1

    R.I.P. Github.

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  43. If GH becomes MS, I leave GH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a repo in Github.

    Been there for about ten years.

    If MS buy GitHub, I will leave GitHub.

    Anyway, being bought by MS is the kiss of death.

    It is impossible for the culture in MS not to destroy GH. MS will screw up their product, the existing staff will leave, the MS staffers or new hires replace them, and you end up with another Skype or Nokia. MS are no good. They survive because of WIndows (which from natural monopoly is still used despite everything MS has done to discourage use) and Office (likewise).

    1. Re:If GH becomes MS, I leave GH by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

      "It is impossible for the culture in MS not to destroy GH."

      I think they'd just leave them alone. Microsoft wanted Nokia so they could make an iPhone killer and sell their software and app ecosystem. They wanted Skype so they could get a better video conferencing system for O365/Teams to sell more subscriptions. I think they want Github to drive Azure adoption. To make that work you can't just take them over and apply the old license-based software company culture. The open source crowd would never tolerate any change that smelled of "proprietary closed source code" so I think Microsoft knows they would have to basically not touch anything and just quietly build easy on-ramps to consume more Azure.

      Github actually fits with their "new, hip web startup" culture they seem to want to cultivate. People I know who have worked there for a while say that the whole DevOps thing has come through like a freight train. Developers have been moved from private offices to cafeteria tables and they've basically fired all the testers and forced developers to write tests.

  44. Microsoft spurring development? Good joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Microsoft is so well-known for spurring development and competiton ... --.--

    Remember the IE6 times?

  45. American dichotomy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you guys even think in in more than "Hitler VS Stalin" patterns anymore?

    No, Hitler wasn't alright just because Stalin was even worse.
    No, those are not the only choices.
    Apart from shifting the discussion to exclude sane standpoints, forcing every view into an extreme caricature of itself, and being entirely one-dimensional, sharp, static and rigid...

    1. Re: American dichotomy. by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      Well since Stalin has been dead firba long time he tends not to cause problems anymire (mostly anyway) MRs Clinton on the ither hand,,, :)

  46. Might be exactly what Microsoft wants. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are well-known to starve companies, before devouring them. E.g. by simply giving out a deliberately made incompatible clone of your product for free until you die, or even offer your lead developer etc twice the salary and $50 million, so half your company is already there before you offiicially get eaten.

    Seriously, I followed Microsoft since the days of Windows 3.x, and if you look at corporations as if they were people, the worst Lovecraftian sci-fi horror movies and Rob Zombie's "Devil's Rejects" got *nothing* on the shit that Microsoft has done.

    If you are a writer, looking to make the most fucked-up horror movie ever, look no further!

  47. Login on Github using your 90's hotmail account... by Uzull · · Score: 1

    Soon you will be able to login on github with the hotmail email account you created in the 90's... Gross....

  48. How to download content from Github? by LaughingRadish · · Score: 2

    In the event of Github selling out to Microsoft, I want to be sure I can download all issue discussion, wikis, and so on from my projects and then upload that information to a new service, say Gitlab. Could I get some people to suggest programs/scripts for accomplishing this?

    1. Re: How to download content from Github? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/import/github.html

    2. Re:How to download content from Github? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GitLab's importer tool brings issues and pull requests (along with some other stuff): https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/import/github.html

    3. Re:How to download content from Github? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furthermore, I would like a way to be able to download all my code!

  49. Not if they make it a library that git in turn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    links to.

    If they do that is upstream functionality, not downstream where license compatibility issues lie. So they will just say replace the git transport protocols with microsoft proprietary ones, switch their version of git to using those ones, while only releasing the library as a windows 10 dll under restrictive licensing and conveniently sidestep any gpl issues while saddling everyone else with proprietary licensing issues. You can think of it as dynamic library tivoisation. The issue has always existed and there were many early discussions during the gplv1/v2 era about exactly these concerns: 'Hows does an upstream proprietary library affect downstream functionality?' and the debates went on for most of the 90s maybe even early 00s before petering off as sufficient open source functionality was available to make it no longer a major concern. As non 'true believers' have worked their way into open source however, many of these old licensing concerns are rearing their heads once more as the new generation have not learned their lessons from the history of the past and are doomed to repeat it again, with the added bonus of a closing door of hardware/software technology that may lock out opportunities for future open source development if allowed to proceed too far without communal pushback. Tivoisation, Palladium, and soon the Clipper chip will all be alive and well. What is old is new again.

    captcha was 'righted': As in 'I hope they righted the ship, before it tipped over and sank them all!'

  50. Please no by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    Itâ(TM)s not that I dislike Microsoft, but itâ(TM)s recent track record, that includes Skype and Nokia, suggest that they are best to leave the good stuff alone.

    Buying an important stake in GitHub would be fine, but having so much control they meddle with a good thing, no thank you.

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  51. Re:Zombie - what if this is the real reason? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://twitter.com/jamiebuilds/status/1002696910266773505

    There may be others like that. M$ copying is not that unheard of. They're probably even proud of it ("I'm the best collector there is" or something like that...)

  52. Not surprised at all by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

    Microsoft isn't the 90s Microsoft anymore. They're banking on getting out of the software business and into the cloud business. Every single project they build these days beyond core Windows and Office has at least some open source component and they're already using Github to host all their code. Owning Github would be a way for them to build an even more seamless bridge into Azure for developers' applications. It's already incredibly easy to publish something through VSTS and the other 10,000 CI/CD tools out there.

    That's the interesting thing about this whole Azure shift...they don't care what you run on their service as long as you pay them to use it. And, they get guaranteed monthly revenue without having to craft enterprise software agreements. It's an interesting shift to watch, because they're trying hard to not publicly indicate any sort of lock-in while leading people that way. If you're careful about tool selection you can make a totally portable application, but Microsoft is providing enough services that are easy and the path of least resistance...but also happen to run only on Azure.

    As for what they would do with Github...probably nothing beyond building stronger Azure connections. They're out of the software and the phone/App Store business for the most part, so we're back to Developers Developers Developers...

    1. Re:Not surprised at all by LaughingRadish · · Score: 1

      If they like the look and feel of Github so much, why don't they just implement something like Github on their own servers? They could buy a site license of the software from Github, Gitlab, or wherever if they don't want to roll their own solution. They can continue to use Github as they do now. That's all fine and dandy. That won't hurt the other users of Github. Why do they feel the need to own Github unless the objective is to infect Github itself with Microsoftish idiocy?

  53. I love this! Go for it! Now! by rainer_d · · Score: 1

    We use an on-premise enterprise edition of Gitlab.

    I would love for MSFT to acquire Github, simply because a lot of developers who live in a world of "Everything and everyone is on github, get there already!" would finally wake up and enable their tools to integrate with other repositories. The one in particular that I have in mind is Ansible Galaxy.

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  54. Its about the IP by sdinfoserv · · Score: 2

    No, this is about licensing. Part of the new ELU wil be change to assume intellectual property rights from any project posted to GitHub. Micro$oft will own everything. Then charge for it's use.

  55. Bye em out boys by Your_spleen · · Score: 2

    Whenever I hear of MS acquiring a company I'm reminded of that Simpsons episode where Gates buys out Homer. It doesnt appear like that reputation has changed, even after all these years and changes in the company's management. I was an avid Minecraft player and enjoyed frequent additions to the game which kept me engaged. I was skeptically optimistic when MS acquired Mojang, hoping MS would positively influence development, but that didn't seem to come to fruition and updates are less frequent than ever. When I read that MS is increasing contributions/influence in open source I can't help to wonder what their actual motivation is. Then I'm reminded again of that Simpsons episode.

  56. "What might this mean..." == time_to_move by cybersquid · · Score: 1

    I'll be gone. That's what it will mean.

  57. Re:Not if they make it a library that git in turn. by Xtifr · · Score: 1

    Or they could rewrite the code from scratch. But that doesn't matter, because, as I pointed out at some length, nobody is locked into Github, and if they try to replace the protocol it speaks, projects will simply move somewhere else where git still works.

    (And VS will have to continue to support regular git because of the many critical projects that aren't hosted on Github, or that would move off of Github if Github became MS-only.)

    The only reason people use Github is because it's convenient and has a large community. Trying to turn it into something MS-specific would make it less convenient and reduce the size of its community (and give a huge boost to projects like Gitlab). If they wanted a proprietary VCS, they could have simply stuck with SourceSafe (or whatever it was called--I haven't used any MS products in decades).

  58. ditto by cybersquid · · Score: 1

    This. Unless MS wants to drive users away...

  59. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep your dirty hands off Github you parasites.