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Apple Unveils macOS 10.14 Mojave With Dark Mode and Finder Photo Tools (venturebeat.com)

Alongside iOS 12, at its developer conference WWDC on Monday, Apple also unveiled macOS 10.14 -- named "Mojave" -- the upcoming software update for the company's laptop and desktops lineups. The headline feature of macOS 10.14 is dark mode, a feature that people who work during late hours might appreciate. VentureBeat: A new Mojave feature called Dynamic Desktop can subtly change the desktop throughout the day, morning, afternoon, and evening. There's also Desktop Stacks, which can automatically clean up a messy desktop by arranging desktop contents into stacks based on content, date, or tag. Gallery View in the Finder lets you see content in a Photos-like display, including full metadata from cameras that can appear in an optional second sidebar; you can rotate photos and do basic automation of Actions within the Finder. The macOS screenshot creation tool has been expanded, as well, to enable instant creation of screengrabbed videos from current screen content.

Continuity has been expanded with Continuity Camera, leveraging your phone's camera to instantly add photos and scans to programs that request them. It also includes a Mac version of the Apple News aggregation app that debuted on iOS two years ago, including the Stocks feature and new sidebar that were shown off for the updated iPad version of News earlier in the Keynote. Voice Memos is also being brought to the Mac, as is Home, the HomeKit app from iOS. Apple also announced a collection of heightened security features for macOS, including protection by default of camera access, microphone access, your mail database, message history, and other private data.
Apple has also redesigned the App Store, and is bringing favicons to Safari tabs.

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  1. When did they stop using cats? by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I thought all the OS X names used Cats. Now are the Deserts?

    I guess I havn't cared about OS X in many years.

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    1. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dont feel bad. apple hasn't cared about osx for quite a while either.

    2. Re:When did they stop using cats? by The+Fat+Bastard · · Score: 1

      What did you expect to happen after coming down from the High Sierra? Munchies?

    3. Re:When did they stop using cats? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought all the OS X names used Cats. Now are the Deserts?

      Someone thought Google naming Android versions after desserts was a great idea, but the message got mangled by iOS's autocorrect on its way to upper management.

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    4. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Merk42 · · Score: 2

      They changed to mountain ranges with OS X 10.9 Mavericks (followed by OS X 10.10 Yosemite, OS X 10.11 El Capitan, macOS 10.2 Sierra, and macOS10.13 High Sierra).
      You'll note they also went from "OS X" to "macOS".

      I don't know of a "Mojave" mountain range, though.

    5. Re: When did they stop using cats? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      "macOS X 10.14 Pussy"

    6. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I thought all the OS X names used Cats. Now are the Deserts?

      Actually the current series is California place names. In focus groups, Mojave won out over Straight Outta Compton and Napa Wildfire Estate Reserve 2018.

    7. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not mountain ranges, just places in California. Mavericks is a surf beach.

    8. Re:When did they stop using cats? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      I kinda stopped caring when Apple Stopped caring. The Last Mac that I got was 12 years ago, it was my primary laptop for about 6 years, and I am on my second one.

      After iOS and the iDevices became apples money maker. The Macintosh lineup has gotten rather bland. They are still fine systems, but nothing really wows me, like they use to. Compared to a Asus Zenbook or even a Dell XPS I am not seeing anything really big for the differences.

      Even the Apple style of laptops seems to be about the same as a 2002 powerbook. Thinner lighter, But still a gray metal laptop.

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    9. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 1

      Have they actually SEEN Mojave? I wouldn't want to name an OS for it.

    10. Re:When did they stop using cats? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      True, it's no Oildale, but at least it's not Stockton!

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    11. Re:When did they stop using cats? by vakuona · · Score: 1

      Even the Apple style of laptops seems to be about the same as a 2002 powerbook. Thinner lighter, But still a gray metal laptop.

      There are many things one could complain about Apple's laptops, but their design is still very good. Maybe making the same design for such a long time has allowed it to be super optimised, and removed many of the kinks in it. They would need very good reasons to change it in my opinion.

    12. Re:When did they stop using cats? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      They changed to mountain ranges with OS X 10.9 Mavericks

      "Mavericks" was named after a popular surfing location in California. Then they moved on to various Yosemite Park features, and most recently Humphrey Bogart movies.

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    13. Re:When did they stop using cats? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Have they actually SEEN Mojave? I wouldn't want to name an OS for it.

      Maybe they're trying to say that there won't be much in this release?

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    14. Re: When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Originally had a Darwin/life form theme starting with Carbon API (base building block for molecules in all life) somewhere they jumped to Cats and got stuck there and well the rest of the naming scheme got forgotten.

    15. Re: When did they stop using cats? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The whole scheme is lost in a hanging folder in a file cabinet in some part of the Apple facility that doesn't have to do with consumer products and mobile devices.

    16. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete. As a Sprint very special customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always offer me a new iPhone if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.

      Here is a picture of my iphone, very nice picture:
      https://ibb.co/gVad65

    17. Re:When did they stop using cats? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Even the Apple style of laptops seems to be about the same as a 2002 powerbook. Thinner lighter, But still a gray metal laptop.

      There are many things one could complain about Apple's laptops, but their design is still very good. Maybe making the same design for such a long time has allowed it to be super optimised, and removed many of the kinks in it. They would need very good reasons to change it in my opinion.

      Exactly.

      Just like Volkswagen made essentially the same Beetle for a few DECADES, and Volvo made essentially the same car for around 6 years, sometimes a good design only needs the occasionally tweaking.

    18. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya i hear the new one has a great keyboard

    19. Re:When did they stop using cats? by antdude · · Score: 1

      More like famous places on Earth. According to https://www.macworld.co.uk/fea..., cat names stopped after OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. Also, notice "Mac OS X" was changed to "mac OS" between OS X 10.11: El Capitan and macOS 10.12: Sierra. I didn't like going back to its original classic "mac OS" name. I was fine with "Mac OS X"!

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    20. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After Steve Jobs dies, they marked the high water point of the company by changing the macOS naming scheme from cats to landmarks in the West.

    21. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Yes, I recall all the useless design "styling" applied to PC cases and laptops, and it was so often just arbitrary rubbish.

      Apple is one of the few who came at it like a real industrial designer. Sure there were some big mistakes, but there's notable successes. The MacBook Air has gone TEN years. I have a bunch lying around at work, and at a glance, you cannot tell how old any of them are.

      And it would have gone longer if Apple hadn't desired a newer design.

      Anyway, big caveat is when one needs to purchase solely based on specs. But for many people that's not a priority.

      But all that arbitrary styling rubbish, it was so Rococo.
      Apple is an exemplary Modernist by comparison.

    22. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They changed to mountain ranges with OS X 10.9 Mavericks (followed by OS X 10.10 Yosemite, OS X 10.11 El Capitan, macOS 10.2 Sierra, and macOS10.13 High Sierra).
      You'll note they also went from "OS X" to "macOS".

      I don't know of a "Mojave" mountain range, though.

      No, they changed it to geographic features in California. "Yosemite" was named after the US national park, and El Capitan isn't a mountain range but a "rock formation" with-in Yosemite:

      * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Capitan

    23. Re:When did they stop using cats? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Yes, I recall all the useless design "styling" applied to PC cases and laptops, and it was so often just arbitrary rubbish.

      Apple is one of the few who came at it like a real industrial designer. Sure there were some big mistakes, but there's notable successes. The MacBook Air has gone TEN years. I have a bunch lying around at work, and at a glance, you cannot tell how old any of them are.

      And it would have gone longer if Apple hadn't desired a newer design.

      Anyway, big caveat is when one needs to purchase solely based on specs. But for many people that's not a priority.

      But all that arbitrary styling rubbish, it was so Rococo.
      Apple is an exemplary Modernist by comparison.

      Yep. You can only tell the new MacBook Pros because their Apple Logo doesn't light up. Or if they are Space Grey. But my 2012 MacBook Pro looks pretty much like any of the "Unibody" versions, until you start inspecting the port-compliment.

    24. Re:When did they stop using cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need for High Sierra everybody knows you always have the munchies.

      There you are karma whoring with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

      You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

      Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

      How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

      The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

      You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

      When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

      Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

      Bonus:
      Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

      The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

      So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

      Signed:
      Ethell, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

  2. Apple's releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple releases its new version of the Gnome desktop, featuring things that have been in the actual Gnome desktop for ages. Thunderous applause from the audience and comments on how innovative and new these features are. Local fanboy is heard saying everybody is already copying Apple's new features.

    1. Re:Apple's releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for that hilarity. The idea that Linux is on the leading edge of UI design....really....just a tremendously funny post.

    2. Re:Apple's releases by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

      Not Gnome 3.x. That was a step in the wrong direction.

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    3. Re:Apple's releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean... when the competition is Win10, MacOS, iOS, and Android it's not hard to be on top.

    4. Re:Apple's releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong.
      GNOME3 is copying Macintosh's GUI.
      TTY+i3 FTW.
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  3. Dark Mode by Zorro · · Score: 1

    I hate Dark Mode.

    Why is it all the sudden more popular than brighter and sunnier?

    1. Re:Dark Mode by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Nobody is forcing you to use Dark Mode. But for those of us who want it, it's a nice option.

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    2. Re:Dark Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had to guess, I would say it's because you're in Antarctica. Don't worry, Light Mode will be back around in a few months.

    3. Re: Dark Mode by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I hate Dark Mode

      I thought that algorithms weren't allowed to discriminate.

    4. Re: Dark Mode by saloomy · · Score: 1

      Because it makes media editing easier when your eyes can focus on your work and the toolbars are dimmer. Most media workers will prefer it, as do coders who have to stare at a bright screen for hours and hours, this is much easier if the background is dark than bright for fatigue.

    5. Re:Dark Mode by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Great for a media center PC, though I'd imagine most folks have moved on to Apple TV by now.

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    6. Re:Dark Mode by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Most Apple customers have moved on to consumer devices.

  4. So nothing worth upgrading for by ugen · · Score: 1

    I am a long time MacOS user, and currently using 10.11 El Capitan (and even that upgrade was forced on my by Turbotax). High Sierra looks undesirable (due to APFS and nag popups trying to run 32 bit software, which I cannot replace). This one does not seem to add anything of value either.
    It may be just me, but making all user experience about giant pictures popping up is not really that attractive.

    1. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may be just me, but making all user experience about giant pictures popping up is not really that attractive.

      Plenty of families that bought Macs so their kids could grow up and be coders only to have the devices end up sitting in the family room acting as a digital photo frame. This will be huge!

    2. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by mccalli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Due to APFS? What's desirable about keeping HFS+ as compared to APFS?

    3. Re: So nothing worth upgrading for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It works?

    4. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 I'll stick with El Capitan for now.

      STILL waiting for an upgrade for my old-ass MacPro, however . . . Anyone? Bueller?

    5. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nothing, but whiners like to state a reason for bitching when needed. ;)

    6. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      +1 I'll stick with El Capitan for now.

      STILL waiting for an upgrade for my old-ass MacPro, however . . . Anyone? Bueller?

      I'm on El Capitan. Was unpleasantly surprised to find out that it doesn't implement the POSIX sem_init() function call.

      Oh, it compiles alright, with a warning that the function is deprecated, but the headers are hardwired to simply return an error for each sem_init(). Honestly it would have been much more useful to simply leave it out and let the compilation fail, instead of putting in a runtime failure.

      (Yeah, I know they offer grand central dispatch, but that doesn't help much when you are porting software that already has sem_init() being used).

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    7. Re:So nothing worth upgrading for by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      Due to APFS? What's desirable about keeping HFS+ as compared to APFS?

      For fixed drives I can't think of any reason but for portable drives it can be handy for old Xboxes, as they can read HFS+ formatted external drives*, but not NTFS ones. Why this should be so for an MS product is simultaneously baffling and hilarious.

      * The 360 did at any rate.

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  5. Stability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we get them to stop adding 'bling' and focus some of that developer time on making the OS more stable. The stability has gone down hill with every release since about 10.11 - odd freezes, decreasing performance, lag when waking from sleep, etc.

  6. Windows Mojave? by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 1

    Wasn't that the name of the fake Windows 8 version that they were trying to fool people into liking on those obnoxious commercials a few years back? Why would anyone want to bring back those memories?

    1. Re:Windows Mojave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ubuntu took some of their big cat names too, "Lucid Lynx" and "Oneiric Ocelot".

    2. Re: Windows Mojave? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for Longhorn; it's supposed to kick ass.

    3. Re:Windows Mojave? by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 2

      Honestly I don't get why they even have to have all these silly code names. Maybe for internal stuff, but once it hits the streets I'm fine with names like 10.14 or 18.04. Otherwise you get people asking 'Does this run on Mavericks or do you need Sierra?" which means nothing to me. "Does it run on 10.9 or does it require 10.12?" makes more sense to me as I have no idea if a Sierra is better than a El Capitan or if a Yakkity Yak beats a Gusty Gibbon or whatever other nonsense code names they use.

    4. Re:Windows Mojave? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

      Windows Vista.

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  7. Would be nice if they started fixing Safari's SVG by grungeman · · Score: 1

    Safari/Webkit currently has the worst SVG implementation of all evergreen browsers.

    SVG Masking works completely different in WebKit (due to a wrong implementation of the spec), so graphics using masks may look totally different on Safari. Performance is not really great, and there is the limitation to sRGB only in filters (missing part of the SVG 1.1 spec) and numerous other bugs,

    It would be wonderful if Apple started working on closing the gap to the other browsers, so we could finally have cross browser for SVG 1.1.

    Just as a reminder, SVG 1.1 was initially released in 2003

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  8. The biggest news was UIKit appearing on macOS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but not until 2019.

    While this is certainly one way to fix the problem that the macOS App Store is a stagnant wasteland, perhaps enabling an avalanche of iOS apps on Macs was not the best way to fix that?

  9. Re:Would be nice if they started fixing Safari's S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, we wouldn't want to rush into anything. Fifteen years isn't nearly long enough for their engineers to get their minds around that spec.

  10. OS updates are getting boooooring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows, OSX, Linux... seriously, what *fundamental* improvements have been made? New emojis? Seriously, who cares?

    1. Re: OS updates are getting boooooring by maestroX · · Score: 1

      Btrfs, excellent Others: systemd, exciting (*WTF* reboot denied) Yet another new default desktop, jay Snapd because? I must be old, really liken apt-get dost-upgraden to be boring.

  11. What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

    What I want to know is whether my wifes mid-2010 iMac 27" will still be supported. I know, I know, many people will say "that machine is 8 years old, just replace it already". Frankly, I disagree: a Core i7 870 with 32GB is no slouch. It should be fine for years to come.

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    1. Re:What I want to know... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

      "that machine is 8 years old, just replace it already"

      And there's the biggest problem with Macs: you can't upgrade, let alone replace any part which fails.

      Until Apple changes this one aspect, they will be relegated to a tiny fraction of the PC market, just like Linux.

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    2. Re:What I want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want to know is whether my wifes mid-2010 iMac 27" will still be supported. I know, I know, many people will say "that machine is 8 years old, just replace it already". Frankly, I disagree: a Core i7 870 with 32GB is no slouch. It should be fine for years to come.

      Doesn't seem like it. I think 2012 is the cut off.

    3. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1
      This machine came with 4GB RAM. You can also install an SSD if you are a good with a screwdriver. I presume it is possible to upgrade the CPU as this was a built-to-order with an i7. The default is an i5. The machine works fine: no part is broken. We're talking software obsoleting it.

      You surely have a point, but not in this context.

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    4. Re:What I want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But do any of the features e.g. APFS appeal to either one of you? I agree that your hardware is nothing to scoff at, and should last you a good number of upgrades. I am no Mac user (just a techhead is all) but if I had bought kit like that,it better be working *and* supported. And I should not be lumped with people using x year old hardware.

      Say after upgrading, and with similar equipment, I shouldn't feel like actually being alone in the Mojave; that would suck donkey balls.

    5. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Sad. It still is a very good machine.

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    6. Re:What I want to know... by FreonTrip · · Score: 1

      It should work fine, though they recommend a GPU capable of supporting Metal. That should include Intel graphics from Ivy Bridge onward, Nvidia Kepler and newer, and GCN Radeons (the HD 7700 series on up). Let's hope Metal support isn't a hard requirement...

    7. Re:What I want to know... by corrosive_nf · · Score: 3, Informative



              MacBook (Early 2015 or newer)
              MacBook Air (Mid 2012 or newer)
              MacBook Pro (Mid 2012 or newer)
              Mac mini (Late 2012 or newer)
              iMac (Late 2012 or newer)
              iMac Pro (2017)
              Mac Pro (Late 2013, plus mid 2010 and mid 2012 models with recommended Metalcapable GPU)

    8. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Let's hope. The first Gen i7s didn't have integrated graphics. It comes with a Radeon card, but I need to look up which one. Radeon 5750. So if it's a hard requirement, this iMac will be obsoleted. Perfectly fine hardware.... *sigh*

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    9. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Bad news, then....

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    10. Re:What I want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there's the biggest problem with Macs: you can't upgrade, let alone replace any part which fails.

      People still parrot this? Can you name an equivalent laptop that lets you upgrade anything besides RAM and the SSD? I can grant that Apple designs don't often allow this, but when was the last time you were able to upgrade anything major in a laptop? When was the last time you could even buy a part that actually fits the slot and is a big enough improvement to make it worth the cost? It's exactly the same with all-in-ones.

      Maybe you were talking about towers, although there haven't been any Apple towers for years. You can replace the CPU, RAM, storage and GPU in the old ones, which covers pretty much everything that PC owners upgrade. The problem is actually that Apple don't stick with case designs for very long, while PCs have been using variations of ATX for decades.

      The root of the upgradability complaint turns out to be the case, which is somewhat ironic given that it's perhaps the part that PC users care least about. PC owners can swap out a motherboard+CPU without buying anything else in most cases, but Apple owners are restricted to anything that plugs into the mainboard. The consequence of this is that Mac towers can't be upgraded significantly, simply because there's no way to get a different mainboard in the case. You can argue that this is a way for Apple to make customers buy new computers instead of upgrading, but you could also take the position that the designers don't want to hobble themselves to old patterns.

      One thing that even Mac users can complain about is cost. Because the market for upgrade parts is so much smaller they inevitably cost more and this reinforces the stereotype. It pisses me off to no end that getting a larger SSD is so expensive, but complaining about it is futile when faced with market forces.

    11. Re:What I want to know... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      There are plenty of other OSes that will run fine on that system.

    12. Re:What I want to know... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      What I want to know is whether my wifes mid-2010 iMac 27" will still be supported. I know, I know, many people will say "that machine is 8 years old, just replace it already". Frankly, I disagree: a Core i7 870 with 32GB is no slouch. It should be fine for years to come.

      It unfortunately looks like High Sierra is the end of the line for your wife's iMac. That means, if you haven't upgraded to HS already, now' the time!

      Of course, that doesn't mean that your iMac instantly becomes obsolete. Far from it. It just means that you probably have another 5-7 years before it truly becomes unsupported.

      And it isn't the CPU, it's the GPU. Mojave is drawing a line in the sand when it comes to "Metal" support. If the GPU doesn't support Metal, then it isn't Mojave-Compatible. Period.

    13. Re:What I want to know... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      "that machine is 8 years old, just replace it already"

      And yet it still has a superior keyboard and a superior lack of a touch bar.

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    14. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Indeed. It will most certainly be very ironic if I can keep it functional by running Windows 10 on it. (Granted, I probably will use Linux, but personally I think the Linux desktop environments are all going down the drain. I say that as Linux user for over a decade, if not two decades)

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    15. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      No soldered on RAM, imagine that!

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    16. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1
      It looks like it indeed. That's one of the things I can't replace in that machine: the graphics card.

      I usually upgrade the newer Mac OS approximately 6 months after initial release. So, yes, we are on High Sierra by now.

      I think your estimate of 5-7 years is a bit high, assuming we want to continue to run OS X (which is what we want, my wife really is as non-technical as they get and this is the best trade-off I found) I didn't know Apple did a N-2 version support (security updates), but apparently it does. According to Wikipedia, a new Mac OS X comes out every year (announcement in June, release in September). This means, that we get 2 years more at most out of it while keeping security updates, which I consider the minimum requirement for a daily driver machine. That means, we will have been able to use it as a daily driver for about 10 years. That is okay. It could be better given the fact that todays machines are so overpowered for normal users, but 10 years is okay.

      We'll just see what top of the line iMac is current at that point then, and evaluate whether we want one again. It will depend on my wife.

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    17. Re:What I want to know... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I understand your point now. If I could upgrade the graphics card to something supporting "Metal", then I could continue to use it. Yes, in that sense you are absolutely right.

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    18. Re:What I want to know... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      It looks like it indeed. That's one of the things I can't replace in that machine: the graphics card.

      I usually upgrade the newer Mac OS approximately 6 months after initial release. So, yes, we are on High Sierra by now.

      I think your estimate of 5-7 years is a bit high, assuming we want to continue to run OS X (which is what we want, my wife really is as non-technical as they get and this is the best trade-off I found) I didn't know Apple did a N-2 version support (security updates), but apparently it does. According to Wikipedia, a new Mac OS X comes out every year (announcement in June, release in September). This means, that we get 2 years more at most out of it while keeping security updates, which I consider the minimum requirement for a daily driver machine. That means, we will have been able to use it as a daily driver for about 10 years. That is okay. It could be better given the fact that todays machines are so overpowered for normal users, but 10 years is okay.

      We'll just see what top of the line iMac is current at that point then, and evaluate whether we want one again. It will depend on my wife.

      I wouldn't worry too much about getting Security Updates. Macs are generally quite secure anyway. There still hasn't been an exploit in the wild for macOS that didn't require user permission to install (a/k/a a Trojan).

    19. Re:What I want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you just login as root with no password.
      Other than that; super secure

    20. Re:What I want to know... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Unless you just login as root with no password.
      Other than that; super secure

      They fixed that in like 24 hours.

      Nice try.

  12. Annoying Apple website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, I looked at the Mohave Preview page. It has some interesting features, but man, that Apple website is really getting annoying.

    For one thing, they put the web page in one long column, as if they assumed we were viewing the web page using a phone. But if you're using a big computer screen (as I am), it's a lot easier to see a summary of the web page at top of the page, and then click on a link to whatever I want to see. Apple should use responsive web design, and display the page using a layout that's suited for the screen's width.

    Also, they don't just show the information these days. No, they use white text on black background, and they graaaadually fade in the text, and graaaadually raise the text higher in the screen as it appears. Are they trying to be dramatic or something? I don't mean to be grumpy, but that's just annoying.

    They used a video in the "Stacks A really neat way to manage files." section. That video is fine; it shows how the stacks feature works, so it adds to the web page. (And it auto-played just once, and had a "Replay" button beneath it - thank you.) But this sliding and fading in - my opinion is that if it doesn't add to the web page, then it subtracts from it.

  13. Re:Would be nice if they started fixing Safari's S by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

    It would be wonderful if Apple started working on closing the gap to the other browsers, so we could finally have cross browser for SVG 1.1.

    See my other post above - if Apple isn't interested in implementing POSIX they aren't going to even get out of bed for browser standards. Good luck.

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  14. Apple is done with OSX by hawguy · · Score: 1

    When the key feature of new new release is "Dark theme" UI theming, you know that Apple is done innovating with OSX.

    1. Re:Apple is done with OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which might mean we are entering a period of stability. It isn't like any of the major OSs are really innovating right now.

    2. Re:Apple is done with OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the key feature of new new release is "Dark theme" UI theming, you know that Apple is done innovating with OSX.

      Since C(r)ook became CEO, Apple leaves me repeatedly asking "What-the-hell-is that?!"

    3. Re:Apple is done with OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since C(r)ook became CEO, Apple leaves me repeatedly asking "What-the-hell-is that?!"

      Yeah, sure - you've been in constant befuddlement for all of your life.

  15. Apple down to promoting MeMoji's and Legos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poor Steve must be getting a lot of coffin rash from all the rolling over in his grave

    Seeing mega-millionaire Apple execs promoting being able to turn other highly paid execs into cartoons for a group video conference was embarrassing.
    Almost as embarrassing as buying a Lego toy house that just sits on a table doing nothing while you virtualize it and play a video game. WTF?

  16. Uh, no one cares about "deprecating" OpenGL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That seems like big news to me.

    Considering the insignificant market share of Linux and OSX for gaming, this seems like a gift to Microsoft and D3D

    1. Re:Uh, no one cares about "deprecating" OpenGL? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      They probably have a SomethingKit to replace it.

      But come on. OpenGL is a nih thing.

    2. Re:Uh, no one cares about "deprecating" OpenGL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are probably starting to adapt (at last!) Vulkan, which is the successor of openGL. Someone above laughted at the comment of linux being at the edge, but with themable UIs to reduce eyestrain and Vulkan being implemented ages ago... well, it is certainly ahead of OSX.

    3. Re:Uh, no one cares about "deprecating" OpenGL? by pezezin · · Score: 1

      Nope. Read the release note, they don't care about Vulkan, they want everybody to use their own Metal API.

    4. Re:Uh, no one cares about "deprecating" OpenGL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually looks like a further retreat into the walled garden with Metal - rather than supporting Vulkan

  17. Mojave Experiment by tepples · · Score: 1

    Have they actually SEEN Mojave? I wouldn't want to name an OS for it.

    Yet Microsoft did just that. To get the word out that Windows Vista Service Pack 1 had fixed most of the technical issues of Windows Vista, Microsoft rebranded SP1 as "Windows Mojave" and showed it to people.

    Now Apple wants to put out macOS Vista Service Pack 1.

  18. Ubuntu codenames are at least alphabetical by tepples · · Score: 1

    I have no idea if a Sierra is better than a El Capitan or if a Yakkity Yak beats a Gusty Gibbon or whatever other nonsense code names they use.

    On Ubuntu, the general rule is that later in the alphabet is a later release. Yakkety comes after Gutsy in the alphabet and is therefore later. There are a couple exceptions to this rule. First, "hog" releases (Warty Warthog and Hoary Hedgehog) were the first two. Second, this has to reset roughly every 13 years or 26 semiannual releases, as the Latin alphabet has only that many letters, putting Artful, Bionic, and Cosmic after Zesty. (Source)

    1. Re:Ubuntu codenames are at least alphabetical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's not a general rule, and you have to carry too much information to be able to interpret it, and that's just for Ubuntu.

      So who cares?

    2. Re:Ubuntu codenames are at least alphabetical by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you compare only releases within a six-year window (greater than the life cycle of an LTS release) and allow for wraparound modulo 26, the alphabetical rule holds. Only once you leave the six-year window do "you have to carry too much information to be able to interpret it".

  19. Re:Click click click by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    Is this sarcasm or stupidity? I really cannot tell.

  20. MacOS 10.15 SidewalkShit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's honor San Francisco for what makes it unique.

  21. A new Mojave feature called Dynamic Desktop ??? by Big+Bipper · · Score: 1

    On Linux the redshift utility has been doing this for years.

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