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Man Reports PillCam Stuck In His Gut For Over 12 Weeks

A Portland man appears to have a pill-sized camera stuck in his gut. That man is me... Let me explain.

For the average Joe, the following statement might sound a bit peculiar: I have swallowed a pill-sized camera a number of times. You see, I have Crohn's Disease (CD) in the small intestine -- a 20 foot-long portion of the gastrointestinal tract that runs between the stomach and the large intestine (colon). A "PillCam" is the most non-invasive, detailed method to survey this area as it doesn't require a scope up the rectum or down the esophagus, nor does it require any tissue slicing. It's also one of the safest procedures available -- the retention rate is as low as 1%. Unfortunately, this most recent capsule endoscopy resulted in my admission to the 1% club.

On March 27th, 2018, I swallowed the PillCam that is currently lodged in my small intestine. If you do the math, that's more than 82 days ago (over 12 weeks). After hiking Smith Rock and summiting Black Butte a couple weeks later, I thought for sure the pill would have exited. It didn't, as evident by the follow-up X-ray. It can be difficult to find research on such a what-if scenario that happens to so few, but I did manage to find a Motherboard article telling the story of Scott Willis, a CD patient that had a PillCam lodged in his gut for eight weeks. One of the key differences between him and me is that he had a partial block and endured more symptoms, prompting him to schedule a procedure to get it out quicker. I'm relatively symptom free.

We have tried upping the dose of corticosteroids to reduce inflammation and help the pill pass through the strictured areas, but that didn't seem to work. Most recently, I had two double-balloon enteroscopy procedures done within a week apart. They were able to locate the PillCam during the second procedure, but weren't able to retrieve it without risking the scope itself becoming stuck. The next step is to try again via the esophagus. The potential issue/complication here is the location. As my doctors warned, the PillCam is stuck 15 feet down and the scope is only 20 feet in length. There's little wiggle room if the pill is slightly further down the GI tract than estimated.

I am sharing this story with the Slashdot community for two reasons. First, those entrenched in the world of cyborgs and/or modern-day medical procedures may find this experience particularly interesting. Second, the more people who know about the procedures and complications of Crohn's Disease the better. For those interested, I'll update this post after the next procedure. Have you or someone you know experienced a capsule endoscopy? Please share what you feel comfortable with.

UPDATE 7/11/18: Yesterday, I had the procedure to remove the PillCam via the esophagus and it wasn't successful. The doctor said he tried everything he could to retrieve it but the scope wasn't quite long enough to reach the pill. I'll be talking with a surgeon next week and will update this post when a surgery date is confirmed.

183 comments

  1. Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe you can use some strong rare-earth magnets to help it along?

    1. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you can use some strong rare-earth magnets to help it along?

      Even if it is not magnetic you could still construct a device to move it by creating strong enough foucault currents.

    2. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it is, I second this idea. Forget full extraction, even just a wiggle might be all you need to free it. Good luck!

    3. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, what he needs is a stiff drink, and to stand on his head near an MRI.

    4. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Kokuyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So let me get this straight, you want to attract a metallic object the size of a pill or, oh let's say, a bullet with a strong magnet... a thing that has the tendency to rapidly accelerate a magnetic object... inside human intestines.

      I have ulcerative colitis so I imagine I know what I'm talking about when I say the man has enough problems as it is...

    5. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have Crohn's and I enjoyed reading their response! Obviously it wouldn't be a good idea, but I imagine it would be nice if we could clear partial obstructions with a magnet rather than the alternatives. Instead we get dosed with steroids, biologicals, ASAs, immunosupressants, and surgeries.

      Just don't go get an MRI/MRE (MRI enterography) with one of those things inside. I'm not sure but I think those magnets are a little stronger, I'm no expert (haha)
      "Do you have any metal or metallic objects either on you or implanted; do you have a pacemaker?"
      > 'Oh actually I have a pill cam lodged in my SI for the last ~12 weeks'

    6. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMO, the magnet idea isn't the worst idea. Instead of a rare-earth magnet though, perhaps a carefully tuned electromagnet, so that it can be used to push it out of where it's stuck.

      A rare-earth magnet is a fixed strength, and a too-powerful one would just pinch the gut, skin and probably do more damage if it's even used inside the body.

      Chances are these pill cameras contain enough metal that they could be nudged. Like that's why you have to be careful with MRI's.

      http://www.mrisafety.com/SafetyInfov.asp?SafetyInfoID=243
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      “Undergoing an MRI while the capsule is inside the patient’s body may result in serious damage to his/her intestinal tract or abdominal cavity. If the patient did not positively verify the excretion of the PillCam Capsule from his/her body, he/she should contact the physician for evaluation and possible abdominal X-ray before undergoing an MRI examination.”

      This information applies to all versions/models of the PillCam devices.
      ====

      The way to solve this with a magnet would be to figure out (eg from a conventional x-ray) where it is, place an electro magnet with just enough power to "lift" the pillcam and pull it around the obstruction. Trying to remove it this way would probably do a huge amount of damage otherwise, and a surgical method would instead do less damage.

    7. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by quantumghost · · Score: 1

      Maybe you can use some strong rare-earth magnets to help it along?

      This is highly unlikely to work. The problem? You think of the intestine as a linear tube from mouth to colon (then anus), but in reality there are many twists and turns in the intestine (which happens in real time - aka peristalsis). So for any placement of the magnet, you are just as likely to hang it up as to move it along - so doing this yourself won't help - and may actually be harmful if the magnet is strong enough and left in one area too long. That being said....someone has already thought of this. But if you look at the article, it looks like a pretty elaborate setup that likely only exists as a handful centers in the world as this would need to be done in real-time with imaging (looks like a mini CT scanner).

      After 12 weeks, the likelihood of this passing on its own is virtually nil, so it will need some help. Double balloon enteroscopy (aka push enteroscopy) can be used if not too far in, and is performed at most university/academic medical centers. Other medical options are descried here. A more aggressive, but not maximally invasive choice would be to bring a surgeon into the mix to do a combination of double balloon enteroscopy and a laparoscopy or just plain old laparoscopy.

      Best of luck.

    8. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems to me that one could use a double wall torus like tube balloon from the back end, pushed via lapriscope, to hold open the sphincter like valve between the intestines and the colon, then so the equivalent of a colonic in the SI.

      Basically, prop open the ass, ram (read: gently guide) a hose up to the intestinal area, prop it open, and power inflate flood that and whack on it like it was a wave pool until you knock it out. If that fails,or biological cross contaminate is an unmitigable risk, connect the supply side hose through the top and pressure wash it out.

      Also, Tell him to proof read his stuff and stop linking to paywalls.

    9. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by rtkluttz · · Score: 1

      I'll take $20 for my efforts and me and my air compressor will get you handled. If we get you aimed right, we may even be able to handle some target practice.

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    10. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't recommend that procedure, rare earth magnets are a bit too strong and depending on the location (probably one of the 'folds' in the GI tract), it's more likely you'll get it lodged even deeper or do more damage. What you need is a guided magnetic field, there has been some research done in them to guide tiny objects such as drug delivery even through something relatively small like arteries.

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    11. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pushing definitely seems better than pulling. If you're pulling the force gets stronger as it gets closer to the magnet so it'll accelerate. If pushing it'll get weaker as it starts moving it would slow down.

    12. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Better yet use a bell to generate fecal currents. Taco Bell, that is.

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    13. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet use a bell to generate fecal currents. Taco Bell, that is.

      Ummm, no. Just no. I actually had Crohn's disease a few decades ago until I had surgery to correct the problem. The problem with CD is that it typically inflames the part of the small intestine that leads into the large intestine. That inflammation makes it very hard for fecal material to get through. So, anything that makes it to the site of the stricture that cannot be passed through...well, if it can't get out of the GI tract that way, it must come back out the way it came. Yeah, it's gross. Consequently, back when I was diagnosed the doctors typically put their patients on a "low residue" diet. For a CD patient anything high fiber is right out.

    14. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really bad idea. It would tear already damaged tissue.

    15. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

      > I'll take $20 for my efforts and me and my air compressor will get you handled. If we get you aimed right, we may even be able to handle some target practice.

      Does your malpractice insurance cover overpressure injury and embolism? Neither is a good way to die.

    16. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      I thought the reason taco bell creates the problems it does, is because it's a low residue, low fiber diet.

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    17. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Why an x-ray? Wouldn't ultrasound do?

    18. Re: Is the pill magnetic? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      That's basically a colon cleaning. It's totally useless otherwise and does nothing for your health, but I can't say I've heard of it being used to remove foreign objects, but it might work, and you don't need any kind of a license to do it.

      Especially the kind of foreign objects that were shoved up there too far that one time when you were drunk at that party, pulled your pants down, bent over, and shouted "Go ahead! See what you can fit in there!"

    19. Re:Is the pill magnetic? by p0larity · · Score: 1

      Maybe you can use some strong rare-earth magnets to help it along?

      This reminds me of what they do for cows. I grew up in a rural area and a fellow student brought in the rounded cylindrical magnets they use to retrieve bits of metal a cow may swallow. I think they go in like an endoscopy and then slowly pull them out.

      This was elementary school so I may be remembering it wrong, but that was the idea apparently.

  2. re: Crohn's... by js290 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you tried eating only meat? http://meatheals.com/category/... Other, lower tech approaches: The Core Strategy | Crohn's Dad http://bit.ly/15S3dWL

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  3. So sorry. by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Funny

    It sounds really shitty.

  4. Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, if that pillcam is being rented by the hour, he may eject it violently when the docs send him the bill.

  5. Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or damage. by raymorris · · Score: 1

    That's an interesting idea. I know that even small, cheap rare earth magnets from the dollar store can move things a couple inches away. YouTube videos of the Magnepull show the technique used to move wires through walls with a magnet, including walls stuffed with insulation. Of course, it could also be dangerous, but it might be worth talking to the doctor about. Maybe show the doctor the Magnepull video.

    Rare earth magnets that are SWALLOWED can do damage, but of course that's not what's being discussed here.

    For the double-balloon procedure, which end did they enter? If via the colon, I'll have to reference this in the future when BeuHD makes very silly posts a about solar-electric and such.

  6. Solution 2 by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 4, Funny
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  7. Should have got an MRI done first by jmatson · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I saw the title of the post I knew this would be about someone with Crohn's. I have it too, and my doctor wanted to do a PillCam, but luckily he decided to do an abdominal MRI first to make sure there weren't any strictures narrow enough to prevent the pill from passing through. After the MRI the doc decided it was too risky, and went for a traditional colonoscopy instead.

    I hope they find a way to get yours out without resorting to major surgery.
    Good luck! Crohn's sucks enough without problems like this to deal with.
    Hopefully the Crohn's MAP vaccine will be approved soon and we can all put this behind us. :)

    1. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

      Frankly I'm not sure what the big problem with colonoscopies is... I've had one without anesthetics and while it was by no means pleasant I must say my ulcerative colitis has provided me with more painful experiences on the crapper.

      Can't comment on the variety from the other end. Haven't had that pleasure yet.

    2. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by jonnythan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem isn't the procedure, it's the prep. No food, a gallon of unpleasant-tasting liquid, and hours and hours of watery diarrhea.

      You basically give up an entire day of your life to hunger and voluminous diarrhea.

    3. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This - so much this. I too have had a colonoscopy without sedation and it was uncomfortable, but not particularly bad. The prep, however, is brutal. You have to change your diet significantly for the week before the procedure and cut out anything with fiber, grains, legumes or anything else that might linger. This is particularly hard on vegetarians. Then you have to drink a ton of horrible crap to trigger continuous diarrhea. During the 24-36 hours before the procedure, you are well advised to never stray more than 50 feet from a toilet. This means you can't go anywhere - at all. You're homebound, you're hungry, you're nauseous and you're generally miserable. Then you spend the next day getting a camera shoved up your ass and recovering. Oh, did they find anything? Time to schedule another colonoscopy then! Sometimes in 6-12 months, sometimes sooner. I had two less than two months apart recently. This is NOT enjoyable.

    4. Re: Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I failed the prep for my first colonoscopy at 50. I vomited most of the prep back up, still had a bad diarrhea, and was determined to be insufficiently cleaned out to successfully scope. Turning 52 this year and have never tried again. Maybe I should look into this pillcam.

    5. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the procedure does carry risks. There is a reason why you have to sign a waver before it.

      My doctor has me getting a fecal calprotectin test every 9 months, and only has me get a scope when I am shooting above average on that.

    6. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by foradoxium · · Score: 1

      combine this with diabetes..try having a diabetic patient NOT eat anything for a while.

    7. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you mean a normal day when flairing?

      please the prep is nothing compared to a bad chron's day...

    8. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are well advised to never stray more than 50 feet from a toilet.

      50 feet? More like 5 feet. I had to sleep on the bathroom floor. I don't think I could ever force myself to drink prep again.

    9. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't the procedure, it's the prep. No food, a gallon of unpleasant-tasting liquid, and hours and hours of watery diarrhea.

      Ask your doctor about a product called Pico-Salax. I've had it twice now for colonoscopies, and it's so much better than the 'gallon of antifreeze' prep that I'll never go back. It's still not pleasant, but no terrible taste, and no nausea.

      Another tip - spread Vaseline in the ol' butt crack before your date with the toilet, and re-apply as necessary. It prevents the 'diaper rash' that makes the experience even more miserable.

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    10. Re:Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't eat anything SOLID (or drink anything red or purple). You can have all the white grape juice you want.

    11. Re: Should have got an MRI done first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have a pill camera lodged in your intestines do not have an MRI until it has passed. It can causes a tear in your intestinal lining.

  8. just wait for the bill medical procedures only pla by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    just wait for the bill medical procedures only place when when they F* up you are stuck with an bill to fix it.

  9. Data Retention Policy by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    He's just retaining his own data because he didn't sign the PooLA agreement. If he had known the latin word "Camera" origin he might have expected what happens you put something private, where the sun don't shine. But he should have known that face book never lets you excrete your data.

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  10. a warrior's drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Prune Juice

    and plenty of it.

  11. I appreciate your candor. by jddj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Plain and simple: thanks for taking about this, both for the interest and the education.

    I'm typically jokey here, but really: thanks, and good luck losing that thing.

  12. Thanks for keeping Portland weird by Nkwe · · Score: 2

    And best wishes for a speedy recovery (or at least as speedy as it can be at this point.)

  13. Oh man by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Funny

    You should hear about my kidney stones. But that was nothing compared the migraines. Severe pain, the doctor recommended castration to relieve them. Of course I didn't want to comply but the pain was so bad finally I agreed. After the surgery, I didn't have headaches but for obvious reasons I was feeling down. To cheer me up I went to get a nice, custom tailored, French suit. The tailor measured me, and said, "you wear size 35 pants." I said, "No, I do and always have worn size 32. Don't tell me what I know." The tailor said, "No Monsieur, I am sorry, but for a man like you, wearing size 32 will be too tight and give you severe migraines. I'm surprised you haven't had them already."

    Anyway I hope your camera pill passes better than my kidney stones.

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  14. Pill cam by jimbo · · Score: 1

    I have Crohns and had five Colonoscopies over the years, just to keep an eye on things. I asked my doctor if we should try pill cam, as we got them here now. He answered that they preferred only to use them if there was a very good reason to, not for routine spelunking. Reason was that a guy had gotten it stuck and needed surgery for removal.

    1. Re: Pill cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You might have missed the news on CD awhile back, ask your doctor if he/she knows what causes Crohnâ(TM)s (get treatment targeting the Candida fungi and E. Coli and the S. marcescens), hereâ(TM)s two relevant quotes from https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160920151435.htm

      The researchers found strong fungal-bacterial interactions in those with Crohn's disease: two bacteria (Escherichia coli and Serratia marcescens) and one fungus (Candida tropicalis) moved in lock step.

      Additionally, test-tube research by the Ghannoum-led team found that the three work together (with the E. coli cells fusing to the fungal cells and S. marcescens forming a bridge connecting the microbes) to produce a biofilm -- a thin, slimy layer of microorganisms found in the body that adheres to, among other sites, a portion of the intestines -- which can prompt inflammation that results in the symptoms of Crohn's disease.

    2. Re:Pill cam by freudigst · · Score: 1

      Aw, I guess that means one less hip Gastroenterologist who gets to feel cool at the expense of his patients. Sometimes, everyone's a loser it seems. ;(

    3. Re: Pill cam by Khyber · · Score: 1

      So, basically what you're saying is to kick Crohn's in the ass by inventing a 40 or 50 foot long anti-biotic power washer for the human gastro-intestinal tract.

      That sounds like a fun procedure!

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    4. Re: Pill cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ask your doctor if he/she knows what causes Crohn's (get treatment targeting the Candida fungi and E. Coli and the S. marcescens)

      Those organisms don't "cause" Crohn's; they are a normal part of the environment and cause no problems for the vast majority of people. Their growth is a symptom of Crohn's. Targeting them with antibiotics may reduce the symptoms, but not the underlying cause.

    5. Re: Pill cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your intestines are 40 to 50 feet long? I knew you're full of shit but even Creimer's guts aren't that long!

    6. Re: Pill cam by quantumghost · · Score: 1

      You might have missed the news on CD awhile back, ask your doctor if he/she knows what causes Crohn['s]

      This is a very interesting article and they may be on to something, but it is far from the first time Crohn’s disease has been attributed to microbes. They make a good argument, but I don't think that this closes the case yet. They specifically note that this is for "Familial Crohn’s Disease" and not all cases are familial. This was also a study that only looked a 9 family, with an n of 20, so this is not a very large study, and these are likely geographically co-located (but they did not give a lot of data on that). I'll avoid a long history of the disease and just place the gentle reminder that correlation is not causation (and in medicine the level of evidence for proof is often much higher than in other sciences). A lot more research needs to go into this - but investigating the complex relations in the gut biome is probably going to yield some very good insights.

      So I'll continue with my standard answer for Crohn's that "we still don't know for sure" - but we're getting closer.

    7. Re: Pill cam by tiberius0 · · Score: 1

      It is more than interesting! I ran into numerous health issues and ended up figuring out how to solve my "biofilm" disorder (IBS diagnosis, but I swear I had celiac symptoms just not the low glutanase markers for the disease my HMO doctor tested me for) only to learn how easy it was to pick back up the same problem from family -- then I learned just how prevalent these types of diseases are by picking up variations of the symptoms from friends who had various "autoimmune" diseases like diabetes, autism, schizophrenia, hyperthyroidism, etc. over 6yrs of only going after the problem and not trying to prevent it from happening again. I successfully got rid of them each time I got them by basically overdosing on a compound that degraded biofilms, the molecule I used for about 14 hours gums up the DNA based signals the bacteria and fungi use to signal an attack and bond with other organisms that want to form a defensive shield, without their shield the bacteria and fungi can be dealt with effectively by the immune system but there are many ways the various bacteria and fungi use to disable the immune system (which also can prevent what I used from working). The molecule I used had a low absorption into the body which helped it only target intestine biofilms but it wasn't a pleasant experience until I figured out how to prevent the nausea effects by using the right antioxidants with it, likely helping the liver work better while the treatment basically caused the release of a lot of bacteria/fungi toxins/byproducts. As for prevention, that takes a minimum of 2 tablespoons of psyllium husk fiber a day along with at two teaspoons of inulin fiber with that psyllium, I split it between two doses and avoid taking it with food (about two hours apart of meals) to prevent the gas problem of taking fiber.. It doesn't stop the biofilm from forming though, it just feeds bacteria that take up the available area for those biofilms to setup and it feeds the bacteria that collectively protect the intestine walls while simultaneously feeding the bacteria that provide the b vitamins that keep your body able to function. You need additional diet modification to prevent the damaging bacteria from becoming so imbalanced that they takeover and the immune system starts to go after them. A decrease in overeating carbs, avoiding carbs that feed those candida, e. coli, and serratia bacteria. Your digestive system can handle almost anything if you take it in less than 200g proportions, over that amount and even something good for you like cheese can become a problem if the bacteria feeding off of it in the in intestines are producing harmful byproducts. So, to counter your "we still don't know for sure" statement, yes we do know what causes it and anyone can prevent the bacteria from taking over... It just requires you to understand that these bacteria and fungi colonies that keep us healthy or degrade our health can be influenced by everything from pesticides/herbacides, antibiotics, carbs, non-absorbed sugars (that some bacteria can feed on), and the amount of food you eat per meal -- AND the types of fibers you keep in your daily diet. In addition, to help you better understand this, go learn how much of breast milk is designed to help certain bacteria thrive in the new born babies intestines -- to start your research to understand how co-dependent we are on healthy bacteria, here's a link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    8. Re: Pill cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The esophagus and stomach are parts of the GI tract. Taller people can have GI tracts almost 50 feet in total length.

      You should've learned this in Biology class. Oh, wait, Russia doesn't have an educational system. I apologize.

    9. Re: Pill cam by jmatson · · Score: 1

      There was actually a study recently published that concluded that Crohn's is caused by Mycobacterium Avium Paratuberculosis (MAP).
      https://j.ideasspread.org/index.php/mhs/article/view/72/39

      I would suggest everyone at least do a bit of reading into this, Anti Map Antibiotic Therapy (AMAT), and the Crohn's MAP vaccine which is potentially going to be a cure for Crohns if it gets approved (http://crohnsmapvaccine.com/). Then, if you're interested, ask your GI about it, or find one who is willing to give it a try.

      Most other treatments for Crohn's are just dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but treating Crohn's symptoms is big money for big pharma. They're always coming out with new expensive (patented) treatments that don't treat the cause so they can keep that money rolling in.

  15. Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just eat from bratwurst, drink a pitcher of beer, follow it up with some milk, and a couple shots of Jagermeister and that thing will be rocketing out of your ass like a scirocco.

  16. Thought I had Crohn's, by wolfheart111 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Try Apple cider Vinegar , with your next attack. It works within a minute takes the pain away. Works perfect for me. (a couple shot glasses full mixed with a little water).

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    1. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by BeauHD · · Score: 2

      I'll give that a shot during my next flare. There was a time when I would drink ACV daily diluted in some water (for preventative reasons), but it was hard for me to continue the routine for more than a few weeks without noticing any life-changing results. Worth trying again though!

    2. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by BlacKSacrificE · · Score: 0

      So whats the deal with the two deleted posts from earlier in the day? Shitpost-y as they were, I thought editor overreach was not a thing here?

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    3. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      They have deleted posts in the past when it came to Scientology. I've had my account suspended before as well. Who knew that was even a thing.

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    4. Re: Thought I had Crohn's, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious comment. Drink a quart of orange juice and eat pack of Hormel pepperoni, 4-8oz pack, plus a quart of store bought refrigerator section pickles. Vlasic spicy wholes if possible. Do it all in one quick sitting, within a half hour while watching tv and lying down or reclined. You may or may not like the taste (I do), but it functions like draino for me when I've got a stomach bug i want gone.

      Don't plan on leaving the house for a couple hours, and make sure your not at super risk for complications from the sudden heavy salt imbalance. It may also be helpful i recovery to have some Yoplait or Dannon sugary yogurt a couple hours later to recolonize.

    5. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking SJW cock sucking, ass eating, moderators Beau and Miss Mashbrain.

      This place is becoming the Democrat Underground, except more stupid.

    6. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Try Apple cider Vinegar...

      WARNING: Accepting medical advice from random slashdotters can lead to an aggravated condition and even death. Check with a certified medical practitioner first.

    7. Re:Thought I had Crohn's, by Toshito · · Score: 1

      Try Apple cider Vinegar

      I personnaly prefer Android cider Vinegar.

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  17. Educating others about your condition by oic0 · · Score: 1

    Ive got EOE as well as a ton of food allergies that sorta came out of nowhere. Kinda guessing maybe lupus. The doctors are clueless and dont really care beyond treating symptoms. Anyhow, I've never understood wanting to educate others about what I have. I have it, they don't. Its not relevant to them. They're not likely to be affected in their life by it. Its just my problem, not societies. Nothing against the author. Just thinking out loud and wondering about the thought processes of others.

    1. Re: Educating others about your condition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you aren't a special wildflower with a unique experience, dipshit. Millions of people have suffered with what he has, and none got magically imbued with identical knowledge or experience once he gained it.

      Apparently lupus also makes people retarded? Who knew?

  18. Vaseline oil works for dogs who swallow stuff :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I'm sure the article author's doctor has already considered and prescribed vaseline oil (an undigestible oil that's often used when dogs swallow stuff that's too large to pass the small intestine), if they haven't, they should consider it. :)

    When my mother's dachshund decided to eat silicone rubber bits of construction machinery on street, vaseline oil helped. :P

  19. Sorry to hear it by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I know little of CD, but I recall a girl with an extreme case, wanting to have a euthanasia option here in Australia available to her, her death details were quite gruesome. I hope it goes ok for you.

  20. This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is not a joke. Try smoking (or vaping, or eating) some marijuana. It tends to relax internal muscles and may help you pass it. At worst, it's a cheap, harmless, fun thing to try before going in for a more complicated, potentially needless procedure.

    1. Re:This is a serious suggestion by quantumghost · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is not a joke. Try smoking (or vaping, or eating) some marijuana. It tends to relax internal muscles and may help you pass it. At worst, it's a cheap, harmless, fun thing to try before going in for a more complicated, potentially needless procedure.

      This is not a joke, this is some of the worst advice. Please stop posting uninformed advice that is more harmful than helpful.

      Muscle relaxants (of which marijuana is a poor one) are not useful here and are actually contraindicated. This capsule is not hung up on a sphincter, it is likely caught in a stricture and inhibition of peristalsis is not going to help and may make matters worse.

      In addition, by consuming marijuana and getting "high" he or she may miss changes in their condition that indicate that they need to get to the hospital emergently (e.g. abdominal pain indicative of intestinal rupture). If they decide to take themselves to the ED, driving while impaired is illegal in all states not to mention just plain dangerous. Once there, again, being under the influence of a psychoactive drugs they may not give a thorough medical history, or it may alter the physical exam findings, possibly leading to a misdiagnosis (even with EMRs - I have seen this happen). Marijuana may also interact with other more useful medications that need to be given leading to further complications. In addition, diagnostic tests may be delayed as they won't be able to properly consent after consuming an substance that alters cognition. In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances

      In short, please don't self-medicate. This is especially true when you have a complex medical condition. Leave the medical advice to someone who is trained and qualified.

      And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication.

    2. Re:This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2828614/

      CBD on the other hand... is a strong antiinflamitory, and is non psychoactive. Epidiolex which is indicated for epilepsy treatment is likely going to be approved by the FDA I won't be surprised if other new medications follow.

    3. Re:This is a serious suggestion by skam240 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.

      "". In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"

      For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.

      Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...

      "And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication."

      While, much like drinking, there are those who will do truely stupid things while high pot is far safer than every day activities like sober driving or manual labor professions.

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    4. Re:This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, always believe the mainstream medical industry. They're completely trustworthy as am I! Also, I have an exciting, work from home business opportunity where you can make up to $10,000 per month working only 20 hours a week.

    5. Re:This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication.

      Really? Who have you seen in the ER as a result of marijuana consumption? That's some bullshit right there.

    6. Re:This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot is illegal, so drink alcohol instead. That will fix your Crohn's.

    7. Re:This is a serious suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a rest. Pot is extremely safe (far safer than alcohol for example). But you are right, you should not self medicate when you have a serious medical condition.

    8. Re:This is a serious suggestion by quantumghost · · Score: 1

      While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.

      "". In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"

      For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.

      Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...

      "And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication."

      While, much like drinking, there are those who will do truely stupid things while high pot is far safer than every day activities like sober driving or manual labor professions.

      While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.

      I'm sorry, what scare tactics did I refer to? I have not referred to any well publicized and likely misleading sources used by the war on drugs - I have not referenced the usual claims of lowering IQ or as a gateway drug even though it is reported in a peer reviewed journal. I specfically avoided such sources because I knew someone would attempt to discredit them. What I have given you is clinical experience (19 years now) of issues that I have encountered with actual patients that I have treated. I have had people so strung out on drugs that they failed to recognize a decline in their health that made their condition worse. I have stuporous individuals who have serious medical derangements that we could not determine from their history (they weren't able to talk or were exhibiting paranoia) or from physical exam (they were so out of it I couldn't get they to react to any exam or they refused to cooperate with the exam) Related reference here. It is still illegal to drive after using marijuana in Colorado and California.

      In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"

      For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.

      Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...

      While an increasing number of states are allowing "medical marijuana", there are very few registered patients in most states (

    9. Re:This is a serious suggestion by ahfoo · · Score: 1

      Always interesting to note when haters post drug war lies and get automatic top moderation.

      Gee, did you read on Slashdot that the racist War on Drugs is actually all true and that marijuanas are killing the children because them dirty Mexicans can't stop puffing that nasty stuff. No really, it's true! I read it on Slashdot and it had a top moderation and was written by a real highly paid medical establishment person who gives people prescriptions for opiates every day so it's really really the truth.

      Don't touch those marijuanas chillin's, it will kill you for certain.

    10. Re:This is a serious suggestion by skam240 · · Score: 1

      "I'm sorry, what scare tactics did I refer to?"

      I'm a little baffled by that question. I literally address this after making that statement. Go back and reread my last post if you are seriously wondering about this.

      "I'm sorry, what scare tactics did I refer to? I have not referred to any well publicized and likely misleading sources used by the war on drugs - I have not referenced the usual claims of lowering IQ or as a gateway drug even though it is reported in a peer reviewed journal [nih.gov]. I specfically avoided such sources because I knew someone would attempt to discredit them."

      So because you avoid those specific scare tactics you didn't use scare tactics at all? One thing does not follow the other there,

      "And, please, a little more evidence than "snopes" here - one discredited mass media report is hardly adequate evidence."

      That means you didn't read the link. There was something like a half dozen refuted cases in that link of the media or law enforcement claiming problems with laced weed and then later retracting their statements. Laced weed is a media manufactured problem, right up there with parents and teachers lecturing me as a child warning me of the dangers of "drug dealers handing out LSD to children" (What the hell kind of nonsense is that?). I am pointing to the complete lack of supporting data to refute the claim that laced weed is a real life danger here. If there is a real problem with this then there should be evidence of such,

      "Trust me I know about people doing stupid things. I am a trauma surgeon and nearly half of my patients arrive with drug and or alcohol on their toxicology screen."

      And this gets to the core of one of my main problems in this conversation. I'm getting anecdotal evidence from a person here who is regularly confabulating "drugs" and "marijuana". Marijuana is not alcohol and it is not all "drugs".

      In regards to your links

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
      This was nice and contributes to an informed conversation on the subject. While there is certainly still wide debate on the subject a number of other studies have found similar links to the problems detailed here. What I always wonder about the issues brought up in such studies, if marijuana is seeing such widespread use that 12% of Americans admit to having used it in the last year (from this link) why is there no health crisis in regards to the symptoms described here? People dying from liver disease and diabetes due to drinking is something that I run into in my own life and there is very clear data detailing the problem. With pot, not so much.

      https://www.smithsonianmag.com...
      Despite the headline all this article does is bring up that weed is more potent now and that there is no reliable source for metrics on CBD content in pot (which is what most medical users really care about). None of these things make pot bad.

      http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/st...
      This is more scare tactics. As I didn't want to meticulously read through the whole thing I did a text search for marijuana. There is no mention of the substance here. This link is completely irrelevant.

      https://arstechnica.com/scienc...
      Irrelevant. Ecstasy is not marijuana. It isn't even put together by a chemist. This is more of what I have been talking about in terms of scare tactics. "Other drugs are laced with crazy stuff which means marijuana could be laced which means it is laced!" seems to be the thought process with this.

      https://www.journalacs.org/art...
      This is just a craz

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  21. Some ideas to try. by az-saguaro · · Score: 5, Informative

    It sounds as though despite active disease, stricture, and these technical headaches, that you are active (hiking tall rocks) and thus not acutely complicated by your palsied pill. If you are not sick, then no urgent risk. The big concern of course is that the thing will lodge in the stricture and you will get acutely obstructed.

    I assume that your doctors have already tried various things, but on hearing the story anew, several things come to mind. They might have all been done already, but it doesn't hurt to get fresh ideas:

    - Steroid boost. I see that that has been tried, but all too often when I hear that steroids were raised, it is often just trivial amounts. If reduction of inflammation and edema will loosen the stricture and de-narrow the lumen, one to two weeks of sizeable doses might be needed, e.g. the kinds of doses used for severe life threatening flares of autoimmune disorders such as lupus or pemphigus.

    - Lubrication. Mineral oil is a classic stool softener and lubricant. It is less in favor today because (1) concerns about hydrocarbon aspiration and pneumonitis if you are obstructed and vomiting, and (2) high priced pharmaceutical pills are more in the minds of most physicians these days. If you are not obstructed (sounds like you are not), then a good swig or two of the stuff might help.

    - Bulk flow. The concentrated osmotic agents that are used for bowel preps might create a wave of peristalsis and flow that might carry the flotsam forward. This could be a concern if you are obstructed, but evidently you are not. But if you were . . .

    - Gastrograffin swallow. This is intestinal x-ray dye. It is very hygroscopic and can induce bulk fluid flows as well as dehydrating the mucosa (lining tissue) of the bowel surface. It is often used as a first line intervention to alleviate an early bowel obstruction before resorting to surgery. A gastrograffin swallow would partly combine the effects of steroids and osmotic agents, which if primed with mineral oil might get the thing to sneak by.

    - Technical. If they could see it with the 2-balloon enteroscope, then they might have snagged it except that they either could not reach it or else not grab it with a biopsy forceps. Instead, they could use a stone basket. If the stone baskets are on too short a wire, then weld-solder-splice an extension. Big companies such as Olympus that make the equipment will often make custom modified hardware for special circumstances, and making a 20 or 25 foot long stone basket might be easy if you ask your local rep for help.

    None of these are guaranteed to work, but they have a fair chance of doing so, and they are safe. Perhaps one or some of these have not been tried yet, in which case it is worth discussing them with your doctors.
    Good luck.

    1. Re:Some ideas to try. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another hopefully not too unwanted suggestion, if not already tried, is to go for a good portion of raw Sauerkraut... was considered a remedy for lots of stuff stuck in the intestine, like swallowed metal pieces in the past and sounds harmless enough to give it a try..

    2. Re:Some ideas to try. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Best /. comment this year. TYFYS.

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    3. Re:Some ideas to try. by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Try a box of prunes. Seriously you will know if a couple hours if you were successful.

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    4. Re:Some ideas to try. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >- Lubrication. Mineral oil is a classic stool softener and lubricant. It is less in favor today because (1) concerns about hydrocarbon aspiration and pneumonitis if you are obstructed and vomiting, and (2) high priced pharmaceutical pills are more in the minds of most physicians these days. If you are not obstructed (sounds like you are not), then a good swig or two of the stuff might help.

      If that doesn't work, try using gravity to push things through. Take a big chug of liquid mercury.

  22. Man oh man by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I hope you continue to stay mostly symptom free until the thing passes.

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  23. Make money from it!!! by BLToday · · Score: 5, Funny

    I’m sure there’s someone that’s willing to pay to watch that livestream. Or maybe just livestream it with sponsorship from laxative companies.

    1. Re:Make money from it!!! by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

      let's hope "stream" isn't too literal here. Dare I say, two girls, one pill cam? It seems I do.

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  24. 1% is not "so few" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A common misconception. 1% is a lot when applied to large numbers.

    1. Re:1% is not "so few" by PPH · · Score: 1

      How many people swallow pill cameras every year?

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  25. It must be said... by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This, too, shall pass.

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    1. Re:It must be said... by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gandalf might have a word or to with you in regards to this.

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    2. Re:It must be said... by bobby · · Score: 1

      NONE SHALL PASS.

    3. Re:It must be said... by avandesande · · Score: 1

      I can't stomach these kinds of comments.

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    4. Re:It must be said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't Gandalf, it was from the remake of The Count of Monte Cristo.

    5. Re:It must be said... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for that. You made my day!

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  26. Oblogatory by DatbeDank · · Score: 2

    ! YOU SHALL NOT PASS

    1. Re:Oblogatory by DatbeDank · · Score: 1

      Bad spelling is bad!

  27. Try it, but see your doc by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    I had normal (but very painful) constriction in my gut caused by binge eating too much fibre.

    Was on the verge of going to the doc but it was the middle of the night so I made a cocktail of 4 parts pineapple juice to 1 part olive oil. About three tall glasses of those shifted it. Shake it well and drink before it separates.

    You can add an olfactory marker to see (or rather smell) if it's passing round the obstruction. Garlic works.

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  28. It's easy to cite a number by freudigst · · Score: 1

    If you believe that 1-3% approximation, then I've got a fine set of encyclopedias that are going to find a new owner. Do you take pharmaceutical enterprises any more at their word than deceitful software shops?

  29. Even a 6-year-old can solve this by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Swallow a little battle-bot

    1. Re:Even a 6-year-old can solve this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! You send a second robot down to take out the first robot. If that fails, you send down a third robot, a bigger robot, to take both of them out. Should that still not work, you send down a team of 3 more robots (to even the odds) to take out the first 3! If even that fails, you start sending down raw materials as you now have your own robot-staffed assembly factory inside you, and you move to China (because that's where all the manufacturing is done?).

    2. Re:Even a 6-year-old can solve this by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      It might not help ones condition, but sure is fun to watch.

  30. 82 84 by schure · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I did the math.. 82 84 = 7 Ã-- 12 So maybe "almost 12 weeks" would've worked better here.

  31. 82 is less than 84 by schure · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I did the math.. 82 is less than 84, which equals 7 times 12, that is, the number of days in 12 weeks. So maybe "almost 12 weeks" would've worked better here.

    1. Re: 82 is less than 84 by schure · · Score: 1

      Sorry for being another pain in the ass.

    2. Re:82 is less than 84 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While we're talking maths he said he did it "a number of times". Say he means 10 times. That means his change of a blockage is 1%*10 = 10%. Each time he repeats the procedure he increases his chances of ending up in the "1%" club.

    3. Re:82 is less than 84 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While we're talking maths he said he did it "a number of times". Say he means 10 times. That means his change of a blockage is 1%*10 = 10%. Each time he repeats the procedure he increases his chances of ending up in the "1%" club.

      Your logic and the result is basically the same, but the actual maths (assuming each event is independent) is:

      P(No blockage after x attempts) = 1 - (0.99^x)
      so P(1) = 0.01, P(10) = 0.0956 (basically the same as your 10% estimate).

      Note that it only makes sense to distinguish when you get larger numbers, like x=100; using your method you would assume it was a certainty, when in actual fact it would only be P(100) = 63.4% chance of a blockage.

  32. I am happy to hear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that you have met Karma. This website spreads so much racism and hate speech, it is a disgrace on the internet, and no matter how many times it is reported, you never remove it, indicating that you approve of those notions.

  33. Roller Coaster? by rizole · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Roller Coaster? by bobby · · Score: 1

      I hadn't heard that- that is awesome, thank you!

  34. Jiggle It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat a huge meal and dare it to remain stuck. Digest while lying on your back, or stomach, or left side or right side. Have some coffee, that gets things moving. Maybe an x-ray or an ultrasound or and MRI (if permitted) can identify where it is sitting with respect to the tissue and what the exact problem may be. These suggestions may seem frivolous, but I'd exhaust every frivolous idea before getting scoped.

  35. Sounds like intestinal cleansing should do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a yoga practice where the practitioner swallows a lot of salt water in order to clean out the intestines for accumulated fiber, and.. stuff.
    It's more or less a way of flushing the whole system.

    It's a lot of water. 12 litres, I think. And there's tricks to it. 4 different body movements that are designed to open passages in some places and close others off, forcing the water flow.
    The water should be forced to flow. The movements should be right.
    Otherwise, the water is accumulated in the stomach, and it's impossible to swallow more water then.
    #speakingfromexperience

    Also it should be salted properly since lack of the salt will cause.. water poisoning. Yes. Basically a desalination of the body as far as I know. Can be fatal.

    Anyway, the whole procedure of flushing litres of saltwater through the system in a matter of hours.. 4 hours, 6? Something like that.. tends to spill out accumulated solids, things that were never truly digested.
    It's supposed to be very healthy and reinvigorate the body and other holistic things. And actually you need to reintroduce your preferred diet to the whole intestinal system a bit carefully afterwards.

    But it seems to me that it ought to pass your camera, as well.

  36. Oil or Laxative ? by robinsc · · Score: 1

    One of my close relatives has crohn's and a blockage would be painful dangerous and expensive. I assume a laxative won't work as this is the small intestine but are you drinking a lot of fluids or trying castor oil in case that may help lubricate the stuck pillcam ?

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  37. D Vitamin, high dosages. by cesarbp · · Score: 1

    There is a researcher, "Cicero Galli Coimbra" in Brazil that for more 20 years is stopping the progression of autoimmune sickness using high dosages of "D vitamin". He developed a protocol with the correct dosages for a lot of sickness and I think yours. Please research his name and try to find more about his research work in this area. If you have interest and difficulty to find him, please contact me that I can send to you his phone number and address. In youtube you will find a lot of videos avout him, but the majority of them is in portuguese language.

  38. Anti-inflammants by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    I've probably got a benign from of Crohn, and have always refused any invasive measure or method of diagnostic, exactly in order to avoid risking what unfortunately happened to the author of TFA. I'm keeping it in check, more or less, with anti-inflammants and some care in my diet. Not ideal, and I know it may be progressing, but then again.. I'm 51. I'll sit out the ride until I die.
      For the rest, I'd not be too anxious about the thing. If your gut doesn't protest, you may possibly be best off by leaving it where it is. In any case: all the best !

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    1. Re:Anti-inflammants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you've got a "benign form of Crohns", you most likely have IBS. And when it comes to Crohns and similar (not IBS as it's tame in comparison), leaving them alone isn't a great idea due to the massive increase in colon cancer those conditions come with.

    2. Re:Anti-inflammants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am also in my 50s and fortunate enough to keep Crohn's in check with one of the milder drugs.

      I always tell myself during the discomfort of preparation for my biannual colonoscopy: "It would be much worse to have my life cut decades short by colon cancer that might be caught and successfully treated."

      I urge you to reconsider the risk tradeoff, and wish you the best of luck.

  39. After summiting Black Butte a few weeks later... by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

    I thought for sure the pill would have exited.

    Is that what the kids are calling it these days? I'm not judging.

  40. Osmotic Laxative by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    Have you tried an osmotic laxative consumed (entire thing) over the course of 3 hours along with a couple gallons of power aid or similar? I also have Chron's Disease and I had to take this last time I had an (emergency) colonoscopy. Something like this:

    https://www.amazon.com/Basic-C...

    Be warned, it will shuttle every last bit of fluid you consume with it directly into your colon.

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  41. Beer stuck in my gut for 30 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not going anywhere either.

  42. 1st and second attempt failed..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the turd attempt? Will sitting on a stool help?

  43. Solution from a surgeon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am sorry you have this problem.
    I am a Trauma, General surgeon.
    This is what I would do:
    1) removing the pill does not fix the stricture problem. It simply kicks the proverbial can down the road. The next time something gets stuck there, (and there will be a next time) it will be possibly worse. It may lead to a perforation and an emergency surgery with possible ostomy (stool bag) as the outcome.
    2) I would do laparoscopy using three 5mm ports. Identify the stricture, and do the correct surgery which is a stricturaplasty And removal of the Pill Cam. If stricturoplasty is inadequate then you may need a resection.

    Thatâ(TM)s it.
    The real problem is that you can not avoid the inevitable which is you have a relatively asymptotic stricture which is symptomatic by virtue of the Pill Cam not passing through. Consider it a warning and deal with it in semi-elective manner. Better now then as an emergency which given enough time it will become.

    1. Re:Solution from a surgeon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're a hammer, every problem is a nail ;)

    2. Re:Solution from a surgeon by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. The first thing any surgeon wants to do is cut.

    3. Re: Solution from a surgeon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any good surgeon will tell you that surgery is last resort not first.
      But after weeks of no progression the next possibility is perforation followed by a stool bag at best case and death at worse!!!
      This is reality you can try all the steroids in the world, coffe enemas, vitamins and other unproven BS modalities. You will eventually end up in surgery.
      Reality is reality and currently this is what medicine has to offer in this case. It is not optimal by far. But thatâ(TM)s what we got.

  44. Re:Deleted posts? by Raenex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This smacks of editorial over reach, and I don't like it.

    If Slashdot is going to start deleting comments, they're removing one of the last reasons to stay here.

  45. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First Sorry for your troubles, 1%.

    Thanks for sharing, this is interesting
    Wondering if they are thinking of modifying the shape of the pill?
    Better process for forced extraction?

    Is the pill lodged because of Crohn's? If so would the steroid treatment prior to the ingestion of the pill be better? But perhaps skew the analysis so that's why it's not done?https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/06/17/2132228/man-reports-pillcam-stuck-in-his-gut-for-over-12-weeks#

  46. Magnetic pulling by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of course, it could also be dangerous, but it might be worth talking to the doctor about. {...} Rare earth magnets that are SWALLOWED can do damage,

    The danger of swallowing rare earth magnets comes from the plural -s at the end of the word.

    If you swallow just one, nothing of significance happens, you'll eventually just shit it out.

    The risks rise dramatically if there's more than one magnet, specially if swallowed on separate instance (not stuck together as 1 block, but separately).
    They'll travel with a distance apart from each other along the 20feet of gut tract.
    If they come (from the outside perspective) close to each other, while they are in 2 distinct part of the gut (from the perspective of the length of the gut).
    (Say, each magnet is in a turn, and both turn happens to be close to each other. Basically think a long labyrinth and the magnets only having a couple of walls inbetween), then there's a high risk that the magnets will attract each other and get stuck.
    They'll be stick magnetically to each other, which might prevent from moving further along the gut.
    They'll also be very strongly pinching whatever (mostly gut wall of the different loops) is in between them, which could damage the tissue, and/or block the blood flow due to the pinching.
    These can lead to the the gut wall dying.

    Regarding the camera, as you say it might be an idea worth talking but could be dangerous.
    The poor guy isn't healthy, he has a gut disease (chronic inflammation).
    His gut doesn't behave like a simple 20feet long hose. But instead due to the inflammation, the gut's wall is partly damaged, and in some points is stuck together (that's the "strictures" he's talking about). The hypothesis is that the pill is stuck in one such stricture.
    Pulling it with magnets could potential help it go further along the gut.
    But pulling it with magnets could also pull the pill against damaged wall, burrowing it further into the walls, or risking to rupture a peculiarly damaged wall.

    For the double-balloon procedure, which end did they enter? If via the colon, I'll have to reference this in the future when BeuHD makes very silly posts a about solar-electric and such.

    Given that he mentions that the eosophagus would be the next entry to try, I think we can guess that the colon was the entry used in the first 2 attempts.

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    1. Re: Magnetic pulling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that explains the content of most of these submissions. That still doesn't explain why they hired Beau and Ms. Mash.

    2. Re:Magnetic pulling by Junta · · Score: 1

      Note that either the camera would be not be attracted to a magnet and this suggestion therefore pointless, or it would be attracted to a magnet and pose the similar sort of risk as having plural magnets and stick together through intestinal wall.

      I was *assuming* the suggestion of a magnet was in jest.

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    3. Re:Magnetic pulling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or it would be attracted to a magnet and pose the similar sort of risk as having plural magnets and stick together through intestinal wall.

      Except it is a lot easier to vary the distance between the objects if one of them is outside of the body, and if the magnetic pull becomes too powerful, to simply increase the distance again.

    4. Re: Magnetic pulling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Affirmative Action.

      Morons need jobs too.

    5. Re:Magnetic pulling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IF the pill has button-batteries running it then it SHOULD be attracted - the articles I've seen on pillcams usually show garden-variety button batteries stacked in them.

  47. Parasites by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    I read here and there about parasite therapy for Crohn's for many years. I keep expecting to hear it is being used but for various reasons still in trials.

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    1. Re: Parasites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The much anticipated trial several years ago ended with disappointing results.

    2. Re:Parasites by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      The pharmaceutical industry isn't too interested in it because it's so cheap and will be difficult to patent. There are groups of people that grow them at home. If interested, try finding some of these people.

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    3. Re: Parasites by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Pig parasites don't work. There's not much data on human parasites. Pig parasites don't remain in the human body naturally, so a patient would need to take them often. Human parasites remain inside the body for years. I don't see much information on those.

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  48. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or da by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. Being fat is a consequence of poor life choices, being gay is simply something you are. There's nothing wrong with being gay.

    As for the disease, go smoke some pot, it'll help.

  49. Re:82 84 by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I did the math.. 82 84 = 7 Ãf-- 12 So maybe "almost 12 weeks" would've worked better here.

    I think he's using metric weeks. ;)

  50. Ride some Roller Coasters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard wooden roller coasters in particular can help with kidney stones. I would not be surprised if they help with this pill as well.

  51. Re:Deleted posts? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    The very last reason, you mean. I hear about things in other places first these days, even G+regularly beats /. To the punch

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  52. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or d by BeauHD+(5) · · Score: 0

    I smoke a LOT of pot and let me tell you it does help except to make me hungry. Which can sometimes help indirectly. But only because I try to put on weight because there are those months I literally can't eat anything it's so bad.

    You are wrong on both accounts bucko.

  53. Heal your gut lining naturally with diet changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly suggest checking out the book "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" by Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride.

    Your gut lining is in need of repair. This can happen with the right foods including nourishing broth, healthy meats, pro-biotics, and removing vegetables for a period of time to let the lining heal (the fibers are tough to digest, the meat and broth is not).

    It's simple, it's effective, and I've seen it work personally (including on myself and other people).

    http://www.gapsdiet.com/

    Good luck!

  54. Worst case.... by sacrilicious · · Score: 1

    Curious, what are the problems posed by simply leaving it where it is? Is it too expensive to leave, does it leak bad chemicals, cause some kind of problem?

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  55. Single nudge to turn it, then let it pass normally by raymorris · · Score: 1

    99% of the time, they get through all those bends without any help. I think the idea would just give it a little nudge to get it unstuck, perhaps by rotating it to be pointed the right way, then leave it alone and let it continue through normally. Guiding it through all the twists and turns would be extremely difficult, but probably not helpful.

    I'm reminded of when a toy is thrown into a tree. It falls through all the branches and twigs, then gets stuck halfway down. So someone throws a tennis ball at it to get it unstuck and then it falls through the remaining part of the tree.

  56. The urge to make a joke or unhelpful suggestion... by jockeys · · Score: 1

    is strong, but seriously I hope you get this resolved.

    alright, one joke. I was backpacking as a kid (BSA@Philmont) and the rangers told us not to wait too long between BMs (as rookie were inclined to do, given the lack of comfortable facilities along the trail), as it could result in a trip to the doctor to resolve the situation via a dire-sounding process called manual extraction. "Unless," the ranger said, "you are a mathematician."

    I had to ask. I knew something awful was coming, but I asked.

    "What happens if you are a mathematician?"

    "Why," said the ranger nonchalantly, "you can just work it out with a pencil."

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  57. Instagram link in TFA by bobby · · Score: 1

    This is about a camera, right? I was very nervous about clicking that Instagram link.

  58. Solution = Taco Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, seriously?

    Just get any Taco Bell value meal -- doesn't matter which one.

    You'll make a run to the bathroom in no time!

    100% guaranteed.

  59. Inflamation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the camera is stuck because of inflammation, I would try every anti-inflammatory known to man to try to get rid of it, not just the ones you have been using in the past.

    IV Colchicine comes to mind. There are all sorts of NSAIDs out there. Talk to your doctor about every single one of them.

  60. Guess then that it was a ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... shitty pill cam.

    *Tadum* *Crash* *Thud*

    Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week. Tip your waitor and try the fish.

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  61. Black Butt Hike should have dislodged it. by SlashGodet · · Score: 1

    Black Butte is a "butt" of a mountain, nothing but steep lava talus, if a hike that jarring cannot dislodge the Butt Plug then nothing can. perhaps your Crohn's Disease super-organism is retaining the camera for study.

    Beautiful Black Butt -- https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

    1. Re:Black Butt Hike should have dislodged it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are lots of Butts where I live. One is called Signal Butte, and another is called Lone Butte.

  62. uneducated suggestion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Admittedly, this a completely ignorant suggestion in that I know nothing about the details of your condition, am not a doctor, or in any way educated about the gastrointestinal system other than the fact that I have one. With this disclaimer in mind, pinch of salt and all that, have you tried consuming oil?

    I started putting a 1/2 tbsp of coconut oil in my coffee every day last fall, usually about twice a day. Most times when I pass my food out, it slips right out and while I still wipe to ensure cleanliness, there is no residue on the TP. NONE. I've eaten a ton of oily food and never had that affect with any other oils except coconut. I'm not sure what affect consuming straight oil would have on your crones, but it might be worth a try to down a couple table spoons of coconut oil for a few days and see if you can't get it to pass naturally. I would think that would be preferable to any invasive procedures.

  63. Black Butte won't do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Black Butte is way too easy. You should try something gnarlier. Like North Sister in the late summer. That will surely make you sh*t that camera out!
    Just kidding, don't do it! Sorry for your issue, I hope you can get that camera out soon.

  64. Sorry by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry to hear about your problem. I hope everything comes out okay in the end.

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  65. No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck that shit I'd rather die

  66. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except for all the times that being fat is due to medical issues.

    Also, it seems with the way people are gender fluid now, being locked down. To "gay" is in the past and now a choice.

  67. Re:just wait for the bill medical procedures only by danbert8 · · Score: 1

    If this guy is anything like my wife (who has Crohns) he's hit the max out of pocket cost already... My wife's Entyvio infusion gets billed at 25k a pop (I think insurance "negotiates" that down to 8k or so) and she gets them every 8 weeks.

    Makes it easy to estimate medical expenses for the year though. Just premiums plus max out of pocket. Well unless insurance decides to screw you by denying coverage on something that is necessary...

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  68. Re:just wait for the bill medical procedures only by sexconker · · Score: 1

    I take it you've never worked with a general contractor, IBM, or Oracle.

  69. Re: Crohn's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fad diets prosed as solutions have been shown to time and time again not work for everyone....

  70. He's watching . . . by hduff · · Score: 1

    He's watching re-runs for a while . . .

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  71. Options by tpjunkie · · Score: 2

    Let me preface by saying I am a Gastroenterologist; you obviously have discussed the options here, and it sounds like you've developed a fibrostenotic stricture. While retrieving the capsule may give you some peace of mind for a while, it will not address the underlying issue, namely the fibrosis that has developed in this segment of bowel. First, you need to be on biologic therapy, either an anti-TNF like remicade, humira or cimzia, or one of the newer drugs such as entyvio, or things will, eventually get worse. Assuming this is already the case, I would proceed with a small bowel resection, performed by an experienced colo-rectal surgeon, preferably one with extensive experience inflammatory bowel disease. If you have not had a recent MR enterography, they can run the small bowel during surgery to evaluate for any other likely strictured or heavily diseased areas. I would not be in favor of stricturoplasty as recommended above, as recurrence rate is higher with stricturoplasty.

    1. Re:Options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would preface this by saying that I am an Ophthalmologist but OTH I have had a similar experience. 50+ years ago the Gastroenterologists were paying $25 a day for as long as a medical student could keep a tube in the small intestine while they perfused it with radioactive substances. I lasted 4 days, got the $100 and cut of the lower end off the tube when it emerged. Several feet stayed in without symptoms for months but after skiing with a couple of violent falls strange and fleeting abdominal pains developed. X-ray showed the tube with the end stuck in the sigmoid beyond the reach of the rigid colonoscopes then in use. It eventually passed a day before the scheduled surgery. From this I would say that your pill cam must be lying in a place where peristalsis is inactive, probably due to scarring, but that there is sufficient room in the lumen to allow the passage of food. That is, it is not stuck occlusively in a stricture. It needs to be dislodged into that lumen space but the problem is you don't know in which direction that is. I would recommend somersaults forward and back and rolling while awaiting the surgery described above which seems like a good idea.

  72. me too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know for sure how long it was in my intestine, 5 or 6 months maybe. I had a capsule endoscopy. that wasn't useful so I had a laparoscopy with biopsy a month or so later. They didn't remove it then because they couldn't find it. Then 3 or 4 months later I had another laparoscopy (with surgery) to actually fix the problem. Second doctor was confused why they couldn't find the pill the first time. Second surgeon failed to find the pill. Presumably it's gone by now since that was 15 years ago.

  73. Bran Flakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A box of Bran Flakes will solve that problem. I suffer from slow metabolism and get backed up whenever I eat to much bread or cheese, pizza is the worst. A couple bowls of Bran Flakes and my digestive system gets blown right the F out. Another trick is to eat a pint of Ben & Jerry's Vanilla Caramel Fudge and a Slim Jim, I've made that mistake a few times only to learn its power. It's more of a last resort due to the spice in the Slim Jim which will leave you with a ring of fire.

  74. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or dam by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

    Rare Earth magnets aren't dangerous to swallow unless you swallow more than one.

  75. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I smoke a LOT of pot and let me tell you it does help except to make me hungry. Which can sometimes help indirectly. But only because I try to put on weight because there are those months I literally can't eat anything it's so bad.

    You are wrong on both accounts bucko.

    BeauHD (5) and BeauHD (5) ? /s

  76. Re: Interesting, like Magnepull.Could work, or d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I smoke a LOT of pot and let me tell you it does help except to make me hungry. Which can sometimes help indirectly. But only because I try to put on weight because there are those months I literally can't eat anything it's so bad.

    You are wrong on both accounts bucko.

    BeauHD (5) and BeauHD (5) ? /s

    God dammit.

      BeauHD (4) and BeauHD (5)

    So much for the joke.

  77. suggestion from 3rd world country man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -kids are given a spoon of castor seed oil for stuck bowels.

    -A litre of warm water up your ass(dont know the medical process name) results in temporary dysentery.

  78. Dr. Joel Fuhrman on IBS/Crohns; also Phage Therapy by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    To follow up on your diet modification suggestion and also probiotics, see Dr. Joel Fuhrman's writing; example: https://www.drfuhrman.com/libr...

    Another way to deal with biofilms in theory is with phages (viruses that attack bacteria):
    "Dr. Tim Lu - Biofilms and Phage Therapy"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Mentioned here: http://www.phagetherapycenter....
    "This 11 minute film is excerpted from an interview with Dr. Tim Lu, who is an expert in characterizing & eliminating biofilms with phage therapy. He offers some insightful ways to describe complex biofilms and their connection to antibiotic resistance."

    Makes me wonder if people might get more intestinal biofilms (and related allergies etc.) if they are not drinking dirty water with more phages?

    In general: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  79. Re: Crohn's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a fad diet, it's a diet intended to treat a specific condition. As somebody with chronic kidney disease, I have to follow a diet of reduced protein, potassium, phosphorous, salts, and magnesium, which means certain foods are excluded, like potatos, bananas, spinach, cocoa, etc. Being on a renal diet sucks, but it's necessary. The keto diet (separate from this) is meant for the treatment of epilepsy, it just so happens that treatment for Chron's disease is similar.

  80. Ferro-magnetic parts by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Note that either the camera would be not be attracted to a magnet and this suggestion therefore pointless,

    The pill cam has very likely ferro-magnetic parts and should be (slightly) attracted to magnets.
    But..

    or it would be attracted to a magnet and pose the similar sort of risk as having plural magnets and stick together through intestinal wall.

    That was my opinion too, hence my comment :

    But pulling it with magnets could also pull the pill against damaged wall, burrowing it further into the walls, or risking to rupture a peculiarly damaged wall.

    Though as noted by other answers, the point here isn't to have 2 strong magnet with only a few milimeters of walls of gut loops in between (that is guaranteed to pinch and damage even healthy gut), but to have a not so strongly attracted pill cam pulled from a distance by magnet outside the abdominal cavity (might or might not pull to strongly on the inflamed gut walls, but certainly not pinch them)

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  81. Ideas - Crohn's disease in the 3rd world? by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

    Does Crohn's disease exist in the non-industrialized world? Is it a symptom somewhat similar to allergic reactions gone crazy?

    It's recently been proven that food allergies go away with tiny dosages over time. Allergy doctors give you shots of whatever it is you are allergic to.

    Is there any hope that people with Crohn's just need their immune system to start reacting with more of the natural world? Mosquito bites, dirt, cuts, scrapes? I remember reading on Slashdot or somewhere a while back one grad student purposely infected himself with some sort of "common to 3rd world" intestinal worm/parasite which helped his allergies. He got called out because he might introduce that parasite to the US or other places that don't normally have it.

    Anyway, I'm sure it's not so simple, but if I had that disease I sure as hell would try anything.

  82. Suggest that you DON'T... by martinfb · · Score: 1

    I suggest that you do not mule any ballon-pkg'd dope over any border.
    That is a long time to have dope stuck in your digestive track.

    On the other hand, it'd be unlikely you'd get caught even if CBP wanted to await a few evacuations just to see...

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  83. Re:Funny by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    A wee bit of vinegar, dont try that for the pain... opioids mmmmm, or mechanical pills??? wtf

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