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YouTube Videos From Some High-Profile Channels Have Disappeared (venturebeat.com)

Posted by msmash on from the stranger-things dept.

Late last week, YouTube videos from several high-profile channels began to mysteriously disappear, puzzling both the owners of those channels and viewers. Some of these channels include MIT Open Courseware, Blender Foundation, Jamendo Music, India's Press Information Bureau, soccer club Sparta Praha, and England Rugby. In a statement, MIT Open Courseware said, "You may have noticed that we are having some trouble with our videos! Please stand by. The elves are working around the clock to fix the issue. There is still a ton of content you can use on MIT OCW's website that doesn't have video. Hang in there folks!" Ton Roosendaal, the chairman of Blender Foundation, has been tweeting his frustration at YouTube. The issue, which per Roosendaal YouTube is aware of, is yet to be resolved at the time of publication.

TorrentFreak, a news website which covers piracy and copyright issues, speculates that YouTube's piracy filters could be the bottleneck here.

YouTube has addressed the issue, says it is working to bring the videos back online.

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  1. YT is f*cking up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...hard

    1. Re:YT is f*cking up... by ckatko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I LOVE that Slashdotters were all like "omg, they're a private company. And these are EXTREMIST channels! WHO CARES!" and now it finally hits channels they care about and they're like "omg, googggles is so evil."

      Fuckin' hypocrite, overload.

  2. I had first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    but YouTube pulled it!

    1. Re:I had first post by rojash · · Score: 1

      Words ??

  3. Problem on High Volume Servers? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    I am going to figure YouTube with its faults isn't trying to be crazy evil. Just may have some problems on Servers used for High Volume traffic.

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    1. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe it really is the piracy filters. With increasingly onerous laws around copyright and free speech, where simply responding to a takedown notice doesn't cut it any more, and where the consequences of non-compliance get more serious as well, I can imagine that companies like Google are cranking the criteria on their automatic filters up a notch or two.

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    2. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm going to bet it's the automated claim/takedown system. Again.

      Bad actors are way to good at gaming it. With some bots (Or a hired out farm of workers) you can copy and then file claims against the content's original creators. It's also easy to issue false take downs for content you don't like.

    3. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or more likely SJWs complained about a video in the channel. I didn't realize you could see a gun store in the background of one of my videos so it was correctly deleted. I blurred the name of the store and reuploaded, but people still complained about it so much that I had my channel banned. Screw YouTube.

    4. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by haruchai · · Score: 1

      At one time, a (monetized?) YouTube channel had to be linked with a Google Plus account.
      I wonder if the problem isn't with something having gone wrong on the Google side & not with YouTube.
      If so, the affected could be restored by unlinking the 2 accounts.

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    5. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll totally believe that YouTube has an agenda that is pushes, but I really need to see some proof of what you're claiming. YouTube has all manner of videos containing people discussing, showing, and actively using all manner of firearms and ammunition so I'm skeptical that a video would be deleted merely for having a gun store in the background of a video.

    6. Re: Problem on High Volume Servers? by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      Next time pan the camera left to show the payday loan store next door, or pan the other way to show the liquor store. /s

    7. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Look on FaceBook for the Youtubers Union page. Lots of detail there.

    8. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Well, as long as we also ban videos with all those other dangerous items! Like beer. Or cars, Or cigarettes. Or table saws. Or hammers. Or fried foods. Or nuts. Or surfing. Or stairs. Or pools. Or...

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    9. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it really is the piracy filters.

      Going to MIT Playlists, and running something.

      This video contains content from MIT. It is not available in your country.
      How We Teach: MIT 8.03SC Physics III: Vibrations and Waves, Fall 2016
      MIT OpenCourseWare
      5 / 11

      Yeah, like a few messages above: the (DRM-allow) servers are overloaded. Kinda like Day 1 on a REALLY popular game when the servers won't actually let you play your game.

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    10. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      ...correctly deleted?

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    11. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      CATS? Living with two of them, I can definitely confirm they are just this side of dangerous as living in the middle of a Zombie Apocalypse carrying a bag of fresh brains! They love walk under your feet as you walk, sit on your face when you're sleeping, and rudely sit on your keyboard when composing the Most Important Email Ever!

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    12. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Also, if we are talking about false flagging, it has to be pointed out that many progressive channels are affected too. Also, 4chan users openly discuss it so it's not even like we have to speculate that it is happening.

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    13. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope. They sent a contract to the Blender Foundation and they are forcing them to allow monetization fo their videos (They don't want to meonetize, since they believe that shouldn't take money for this, info should be free).
      The link:

      https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blender-videos-worldwide/

    14. Re:Problem on High Volume Servers? by Gamer_2k4 · · Score: 1

      Or more likely SJWs complained about a video in the channel. I didn't realize you could see a gun store in the background of one of my videos so it was correctly deleted. I blurred the name of the store and reuploaded, but people still complained about it so much that I had my channel banned. Screw YouTube.

      What do you mean, "correctly deleted"? Is it really against their TOS to show a gun store?

  4. I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    YouTube is a $2B corporate welfare recipient that considers "fighting white supremacy" one of its most important engineering goals. They're not operating in the real world like most of us where the average person is more likely to be offended that their machine learning specialists are more concerned about Richard Spencer than answering "why are demonic horror movies like Hereditary showing up on channels primarily targeted at small kids."

    1. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by DogDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd be more concerned about my kids running into Richard Spencer videos than horror movies. Horror movies are obviously, not real. Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.

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    2. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by reanjr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unattended viewing by a child is the problem. Not YT's filtering and categorization. Once you have kids, you really need to fucking grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your family, and not try to blame the world for your own inadequicies as a parent.

    3. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd be more concerned about my kids running into Richard Spencer videos than horror movies. Horror movies are obviously, not real. Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.

      Nazis are no more real than your horror movies. They became extinct at the end of WWII. They are as real as the social misfits who dress in black and claim they are vampires and must feed on blood. Do you have your kids wear garlic around their necks to ward off vampires? Do you worry about your kids seeing Wiccans casting spells over you and ruining your crops or poisoning your wells? Grow up. These are LARPers and small potatoes losers who have no purpose in life and only the power that people like you give them.

    4. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.

      Well, sure, in a pathetic-idiots-dressing-up-like-Halloween flavor, yes. In terms of being an actual political party with real influence over people's lives? Not so much. Mind you, it is concerning that people using the Nazi Brown Shirt tactics and world view (Antifa) are happy to put on black outfits and beat people bloody in order to silence them at public gatherings. That sort of wannabe-Nazi-ism, where they proudly use violence to shut down public discourse, is troubling. But only because academics encourage it.

      But the real "still very much real" concern is, of course, the Marxist bunch. We still have a lot of people around the world and here in the US happily championing the world view that's killed over a hundred million people and counting. We can see their wreckage still happening all around us, and those same academics that cheer on the Antifa Brown Shirts trying to help them are the ones loudly proclaiming the superiority of the most deadly, destructive movement of the last couple centuries, if not all of history.

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    5. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      If you're concerned that a YouTube video is enough to turn your kid into a Literal Nazi, then I'm concerned both about your parenting skills and your child's ability to reason...

    6. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by TimMD909 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Better to expose young minds and deal with the consequences, than to try and permanently shield them... At some point, the real world comes knocking. If they already have experience countering obviously terrible ideas involving genocide, then anything less could be taken in stride.

      Note that I'm not talking about 4 year olds. I'm talking about kids old enough to be online without supervision. If you don't think the kid can tell apart truth from propaganda, the kid isn't old enough. If said kid doesn't pass the bar and is unsupervised online, then I refer to my previous comment.

    7. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2

      Are you troubled by delusions of National Socialism? Do you see Nazis everywhere? Is there a Nazi under your bed right now? You may be suffering from Nazis Are Everywhere Syndrome (NAES).

      At last there is help! Try new Nazinol - scientifically proven to treat NAES. In some cases Nazinol treatment may even restore a patient's ability to see more than one side of political issues.

      Caution: Nazinol may cause drowsiness, flatulence, red eyes, bayarrhea, increased appetite, anorexia, hot flashes, cold sweats, and projectile vomitting. Use of Nazinol while posting on Reddit is illegal in several states and the District of Columbia. Do not use Nazinol while driving.

    8. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well, sure, in a pathetic-idiots-dressing-up-like-Halloween flavor, yes. In terms of being an actual political party with real influence over people's lives?

      The same could be said about the actual Nazi party cica 1920. It is important to pay attention to the people who you think have no hope in hell in influencing anything.

      While this is an incidental comparison rather than a purposeful one, who many people predicted that a nonsensical spraytan accident with bad hair implants would become president of America? Most of the country laughed at him too considering him as a pathetic idiot with no chance of actually influencing anyone's life, right until November 9th.

    9. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by fuzznutz · · Score: 1

      I find it hilarious that you accuse the OP of being in his "safe space" yet your position is to create a safe space free of those viewpoints that you disagree with. The "progressive" position is totally self unaware.

    10. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      Welcome to Slashdot.

      Shit takes from low UID posters who are closet racists.

      While waving the AC banner proudly.

    11. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      YouTube has shown a willingness to identify, qualify, categorize, and filter videos.

      This is the slippery slope of Copyright ID. People will want all manner of content removed, for whatever tiny hill they live on.

      There needs to be no filter, or ones that work just for the viewer. There is no happy middle ground.

    12. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      And everything that you're complaining about happened entirely in keeping with the constitution's process of choosing an executive, and we dodged the bullet of having instead a sociopathic liar made rich by selling access while she and her husband previously had the job and with people in the DoJ and FBI dead set on letting her get away with a series of crimes in order to regain political power.

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    13. Re: I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by K10W · · Score: 1

      "the world view that's killed over a hundred million people and counting"

      You mean capitalism? Yeah, still a major problem.

      urm you do realise it is communism/socialist regimes that killed more than any capatalist system. The NK, Russian genocides, GDR, Cambodia, NV, PRC, SEA and South American red regimes have wiped out more than any other system. Sure capitalism has its downsides but there hasn't been any better system that works as well for the masses in real world conditions in modern world. Go read Solzhenitsyn works on the subject, Kang Chol-Hwan "Aquariums of pyongyang", Funder "Stasiland" and so on and tell me how bad capitalism is again. Those useful idiots Yuri Bezmenov spoke at length about are mostly innocent folks who mean well but got manipulated by the propaganda thus this anticapitalism rhetoric may be well intentioned but is misguided.

      Before someone gives microsystem examples of red systems that work they often are for exclusive niche and wont work as part of large system, also they only work because they exist within a capitalist macro system. For overly simplistic example someone in a blue house has the freedom to paint the interior red if they so wish in that system unlike one with no such freedoms and only a small group get to have a house even, so they develop a "hey blue interiors suck, red is the best so I'm decorating my interior red like in those red countries, oh how much better it'd be to live in a red house in one of those" failing to understand if they were in red house territory they wouldn't even have a house as that luxury was afforded the those folks due to the capitalist system, under another regime they'd exist in the gutter and any step outa line and straight to the gulag with you matey.

    14. Re:I'm sorry, does this surprise you? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      ahem, so did everything that happened in 1920.

  5. Right hand, meet left by H3lldr0p · · Score: 1

    Actually, in YouTube's case there are probably several hands who aren't aware of the other's actions. The advertisement one is busy trying to make sure ads don't show up in certain places, the piracy one is busy doing it's own thing, and the one who used to promote original material hasn't been taking its meds lately. None of them talk with one another to coordinate changes or specifics about what is being changed so who knows. All three could be stepping on top of one another. It's not like YouTube is telling anyone, anything so you might as well read the tea leaves as you'll get just as much information out it.

    1. Re:Right hand, meet left by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Cry me a river. Companies have like this stuff called management or something, who like get paid a lot of money supposedly because they can sort shit like this out.

      Waaaagh, it's hard! Give me a trophy for turning up!

      Captcha: diversity

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  6. Youtube seems to be choking all over. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Loading with no videos, not loading at all.

    YT is having real issues.

  7. Jamendo by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

    Funny how Jamendo was affected, a site that focuses on distributing open licensed music from independent artists. I was just literally listening to Jamendo a few minutes ago on my phone, they've got some really good stuff.

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    1. Re:Jamendo by tepples · · Score: 1

      How does Jamendo make sure that this "open licensed music from independent artists" doesn't contain accidental infringement, comparable to the "My Sweet Lord" case (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music)?

    2. Re: Jamendo by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      "accidental infringement"? Good grief. These intellectual monopolists really need to be stomped by the state. Damaging public culture and making the whole world stupider - just so a bunch of dirtbag lawyers and a handful of washed up popstars can maintain their coke habits. Social leaches.

    3. Re: Jamendo by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

      Thank you. IMHO there should be no blatant rip-offs but, you know, music is art and inspiration to create it comes from others who do the same. Birds don't plagiarize by copying/modifying bits of bird songs.

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    4. Re:Jamendo by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

      How does Jamendo make sure that this "open licensed music from independent artists" doesn't contain accidental infringement, comparable to the "My Sweet Lord" case (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music)?

      Thanks for sharing that link, I wasn't aware of that case. To answer your question, "to make sure" is seemingly pre-accusing Jamendo of infringement. That's like accusing someone of stealing from a 7-11, simply because it's possible they *may* steal something. Completely baseless, and IMHO Jamendo should not have to put protections in place, spending their own money, for this. The infringing artist should be held liable for copyright infringement, not the owner of the medium in which it is delivered.

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    5. Re:Jamendo by tepples · · Score: 1

      To answer your question, "to make sure" is seemingly pre-accusing Jamendo of infringement.

      I hadn't intended it as an accusation against a particular music host. Instead, I blame the way copyright has been applied to hinder rather than "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts".

      IMHO Jamendo should not have to put protections in place, spending their own money, for this.

      The European Legal Affairs Committee (JURI) disagrees with you. See Article 13 of its proposed Copyright Directive.

      The infringing artist should be held liable for copyright infringement, not the owner of the medium in which it is delivered.

      Agreed. Thus my real question: What steps should an artist take to avoid accidentally infringing?

    6. Re:Jamendo by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

      What steps should an artist take to avoid accidentally infringing?

      Well, they could just not make music... but seriously, that's kind of a silly question. "How to avoid accidentally xyz-ing?"

      I once wrote a bass riff that I thought was awesome and completely original. I realized years later that the same riff was one of Mike Einziger from Incubus made, though it was a guitar riff. I'm huge Incubus fans but I had no idea I actually copied 90% of the riff in coming up with my own. IMHO that shouldn't be punishable. Musicians are influenced by what they hear. You shouldn't demand 100% originality. I guess I just hate the fact that the money people have this kind of power over the music people.

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  8. Re:Stick a fork in it, it's done by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    Anyone know anything about Bitchute?

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  9. See previous story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Google's copyright filters will predict when you die. Upload that rickroll and you will be graverolled.

  10. Re:Elves? Monkeys! by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 2

    They probably subcontract IT services out to a company in a country with low-cost labour and a poor human/employment rights record. It'd be pretty stupid to call their workers monkeys.

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  11. Probably claimed by a media corporation by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    My bet's on a media corporation claiming their content and sending DMCA take-downs. Happens a lot, apparently.

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    1. Re:Probably claimed by a media corporation by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You might be right. Whatever happened to the "on pain of perjury" bit?

      I keed, I keed. I don't think that was ever enforced even once, was it?

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  12. Re:Time Traveler here by aicrules · · Score: 2

    You know how I know you're not from the future? Because you think blockchain will still be around in any meaningful capacity.

  13. Options include... by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

    Bitchute.com DTube.com and Real.Video as alternatives. And the sooner the better!

  14. Correction D.TUBE! by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

    It is actually d.tube, not what I posted above. Damn typosquater...

  15. Cover by sexconker · · Score: 1

    This is cover/testing for the massive internet censorship and blackouts that are coming within the next week or two.

    1. Re:Cover by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Yes political SJW groups removing all they don't like.
      To make the internet push their political world view.
      No history, art, culture, informative movie reviews, no blasphemy, no questioning the results of EU wide politics.
      Just a constant reporting and removal of content.
      People got invited into an open and free public commons to upload their content in the past.
      Only to face SJW censorship as the public commons had no freedom of speech.

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    2. Re:Cover by Raenex · · Score: 1

      I bet you within the next month there will be no "massive internet censorship and blackouts". Instead, they will just keep turning up the censorship by degrees.

    3. Re: Cover by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Here's something fun to try: Do a Google search for "Google censorship". Then do a Yandex search for the same phrase. Compare the results, and draw your own conclusions.

  16. Re:Time Traveler here by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    Hey what shitcoins are going to moon? I need a quick buck.

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  17. Re: were you ever a kid ? by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Yes, kids get into shit. Most of us choose to watch our kids, know their friends' parents, and blame ourselves when there's a failure. You seem to think that YouTube should pick up where you failed as a parent.

  18. Re:Stick a fork in it, it's done by Raenex · · Score: 1

    BitChute has become the refuge for banned YouTube channels. Still very small usage, but an absolute necessity if you want to avoid the wrongthink censor. I subscribe to a handful of channels there and check it once a day.

  19. Shazam? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I had an experience once where I came up with something, or thought I did, then later found out it was the very distinctive hook of a popular song. Apparently I subconsciously remembered it. I'm not a musician, just "came up" with a fee notes one time.

    I wonder if Shazam or something similar would find very similar music? I don't know if Shazam identifies music, as notes, or just the original recording. For example, would Shazam (or something similar) identify the same song (exactly) played on a piano instead of a guitar? I don't have any idea. I might be interesting to try it.

    1. Re:Shazam? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Shazam identifies recordings. SoundHound identifies notes, but I don't think I was able to get it to work last time I tried it.