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McDonald's To Test Plastic-Straw Alternatives in US Later This Year (usatoday.com)

Under pressure by environmentalists, McDonald's has announced that it will start testing alternatives to plastic straws at select locations in the U.S. later this year. From a report: The burger giant also announced that it will adopt more eco-friendly paper straws across all its 1,361 restaurants in the United Kingdom and Ireland, a region where the company started testing the alternative to plastic straws earlier this year. The regional rollout begins in September. Single-use straws are the scourge of the packaging-waste world because they don't easily biodegrade and aren't really necessary for most people when it comes to gulping a soft drink. The activist group SumOfUs estimates that every day, McDonald's alone dispenses millions of plastic straws that customers soon discard, leaving them to litter beaches or clog waterways and fill trash dumps.

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  1. For those living in Louisiana ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the new straws will be bayou-degradable.

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  2. Alternative? by mchall · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... the company started testing the alternative to plastic straws earlier this year

    Some of us Slashdoters are old enough to remember a time before plastic straws. Yep, such a thing existed. Guess what we used, youngsters? That's right. Paper straws.

    So you might say that plastic straws are the alternative to paper straws, and not the other way around.

    1. Re: Alternative? by spinitch · · Score: 2

      Dollar bills?

    2. Re:Alternative? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Shakes aren't made to drink from the cup. They used to give you metal straws if you were eating in for example, most people used to have metal straws at home, worked great, easy cleanup. It was the fast food places that gave you ones made out of paper. Then it moved to plastic because of two things: "environmental outrage" at trees being cut down for it, and plastic became dirt cheap. Same reason why all those grocery stores switched from paper bags to plastic, environmental outrage.

      10 seconds of feel good, 40+ years of harm.

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    3. Re:Alternative? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      They used to give you metal straws if you were eating in for example, most people used to have metal straws at home

      Ok, how long ago was this period of time of the metal straw?

      My neck beard is getting quite old, and I have never in my life seen a metal straw.

      I"d never heard of such a thing till an earlier /. thread on this a few months ago.

      I never saw them in the 60's through now....some time before that?

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    4. Re: Alternative? by cre1mer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dollar bills?

      Only when you order Coke.

    5. Re:Alternative? by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't drink and drive.

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    6. Re:Alternative? by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      I have said it before and I will say it again. The problem is not the plastic straws, but the filthy dirty disgusting people that don't dispose of them properly. A straw in the ocean is a straw that didn't go in the waste, let alone in the recycling.

    7. Re:Alternative? by omnichad · · Score: 2

      Nalgene is a company that does not make glass bottles. Stop using it as a generic term for glass bottles or stop being obtuse.

    8. Re:Alternative? by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      You don't drive on the roads around here. Take that lid off and the next pothole or bump will give you a lap full of soft drink.

  3. What a ridiculous premise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Plastic straws? Taking up measurable landfill space? Contamination the oceans??

    Most of the plastic in the oceans comes from a handful of Rivers in Asia. My guess is that it is manufacturing waste.

    This is not a hard problem to solve, and it doesn't take stupid BS efforts like making a different kind of straw.

    1. Implement, and actualize, heavy and escalating fines for littering.
    2. Start negotiating a treaty that limits plastic discharge to oceans, similar to the existing open water treaties regarding contamination, with a comprehensive monitoring regime. Nations that fail to meet compliance goals should be fined and/or sanctioned.

    Plastic straws take up a negligble amount of landfill space. If you want to reduce landfill usage, you need to start with the items that take up significant amount of space.

    And if you want to reduce plastic contamination of the environment, you need to ban and monitor plastic emissions into the environment. Not shopping bags and straws in the first world only, but a global monitoring regime on ocean and sea discharge waterways with standardized sampling and metrics. Believe it or not, this would probably be cheaper than the faith-based remedies of reusable shopping bags and paper straws.

    1. Re:What a ridiculous premise. by turp182 · · Score: 2

      The US "only" uses 500 million straws per DAY.

      And straws pose certain threats to animal life than other shaped plastics.

      Here's more info:
      https://news.nationalgeographi...

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    2. Re:What a ridiculous premise. by omnichad · · Score: 3, Informative

      Almost everywhere. Straws are typically made of polystyrene (#6 plastic if you go by the numbers). Very few places will accept PS for recycling.

    3. Re:What a ridiculous premise. by Kohath · · Score: 3, Informative

      That false statistic was based on a phone survey conducted by a nine year old kid.

      Do you guys care about reality at all? It doesn’t seem like you do.

    4. Re:What a ridiculous premise. by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I partially agree, the problem isn't the plastic straws, it is the lack of collection and recycling .

      An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The problem isn't plastic straws, the problem is plastic. Straws are just a really frigging easy place to start dealing with the problem.

  4. Price them out... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    Charge $5 for the cup, don't charge for the soda, or charge a nominal amount. People will start bringing their own reusable cups or bottles very quickly.

    Or (assuming they're not doing away with lids), design the lids like takeaway coffee lids -- tear out a portion to have a small "hole" for drinking.

  5. Yet another control-freak ruse by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's pretty obvious that this is coming from the group of people who are hell-bent on restricting people's freedom of movement. How are people supposed to be able to move freely about the country if they can't eat and drink while driving?

  6. Re:Next up - no straws by scamper_22 · · Score: 2

    I think it definitely needs to be start with a general plastic straw ban. Then you can have exceptions.

    If you need a straw for accessible reasons, then you can request one. Heck, I know this is unpopular to say, but maybe if you really need a straw to drink for health reasons...maybe you carry a straw with you. That doesn't seem unreasonable in terms of personal responsibility. It's no different than any other health condition that requires you as a person to do something. Maybe you need to carry an Epi-Pen. Maybe you need a hearing aid. Maybe you need a wheel-chair.

    If you plan to drink it slowly or on a very long road trip, then you can request one.

    But for the 99.5% of people who use plastic straws over their 20 minute meal, a paper straw is fine.

  7. Thoughts from a diver by junk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not an activist about almost anything (privacy, I'm looking at you!) but this is a thing I can get behind. I've been on dives and collected trash. I do a dive every year specifically to collect trash. The ocean is a pretty amazing place and the amount of litter in certain places is depressing (not hyperbole). I picked up a variety pack of silicone and metal straws and we keep those in the car. I get weird looks and have to explain it a couple times that I don't want a straw but it's not really a big deal. If I'm seated at a place, I use my mouth hole.

    Paper is great and biodegrades. Washing is simple too though. It's not like anyone proposing taking something away without an alternative (like bags). We can do a pretty good job with recycling paper products too, so we don't even have to slash a bunch of forests to get there. All in all, this should be a non story.

    1. Re:Thoughts from a diver by Creedo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Underwater aesthetics should decide how we all live our lives?

      On behalf of the rest of the goddamned planet that has to pick up after shit stains who quip about this, please feel free to go fuck yourself. Too bad short sighted fuckwits aren't the only ones hurt by their asinine and selfish behaviors.

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  8. Olden days by saltydogdesign · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I was a young whippersnapper, we would drink drinks by pressing the rim of the glass to our lips and tipping it up at an angle calculated to bring the liquid just in contact with the aforementioned lips, between which we would then slurp the aforementioned liquid.

    I know it sounds crazy, but it's true.

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    1. Re:Olden days by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 3, Funny

      Citation, or it didn't happen.

    2. Re:Olden days by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Drinking straight from the cup became a nuisance once they began putting ice into drinks (so around the 1940s, when electric freezers became commonplace). Not only would the ice chill your lips, but sometimes it would spill out all over you. The straw solved these problems. The straw combined with the lid also allowed you to drink inside a moving car without spilling anything.

  9. Paper? Why?? by magarity · · Score: 2

    Paper straws are horrible after they get wet.

    I get "plastic" cups that are really made out of some kind of corn fiber. They work great even after several refills. Why can't straws be made of the same material?

  10. The last straw by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly, that post must have been the last straw for you.