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New York Orders Charter Out of State (arstechnica.com)

Yesterday, it was reported that Charter Communications could lose its license in New York because of its failure to meet merger-related broadband deployment commitments. Today, according to Ars Technica, the New York State Public Service Commission (PSC) voted to revoke its approval of Charter Communications' 2016 purchase of Time Warner Cable (TWC). "The PSC said it is ordering Charter to sell the former TWC system that it purchased in New York, and it's 'bring[ing] an enforcement action in State Supreme Court to seek additional penalties for Charter's past failures and ongoing non-compliance," reports Ars. From the report: Charter has repeatedly failed to meet deadlines for broadband expansions that were required in exchange for merger approval, state officials said. The PSC has steadily increased the pressure on Charter with fines and threats, but Charter never agreed to changes demanded by state officials. As a result of today's vote, "Charter is ordered to file within 60 days a plan with the Commission to ensure an orderly transition to a successor provider(s)," the PSC's announcement said. "During the transition process, Charter must continue to comply with all local franchises it holds in New York State and all obligations under the Public Service Law and the Commission regulations. Charter must ensure no interruption in service is experienced by customers, and, in the event that Charter does not do so, the Commission will take further steps, including seeking injunctive relief in Supreme Court in order to protect New York consumers." The five types of misconduct that the commission cited to support its decision include: the company's repeated failures to meet deadlines; Charter's attempts to skirt obligations to serve rural communities; unsafe practices in the field; its failure to fully commit to its obligations under the 2016 merger agreement; and the company's purposeful obfuscation of its performance and compliance obligations to the Commission and its customers.

94 comments

  1. Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    HA! HA!

    1. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      charter will have the last laugh, as they sell their TWC assets in new york state to ...

      drumroll, please ...

      comcast.

      enjoy!

    2. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      charter will have the last laugh, as they sell their TWC assets in new york state to ...

      drumroll, please ...

      comcast.

      enjoy!

      The only thing worse than selling to Comcrap would be for no business with a solid background in cable service to come forward to buy it.

      That would leave the relatively inexperienced service providers, like Frontier (!!! oh gawd !!!), to consider buying it.

      As for Verizon or AT&T buying it, I just don't see it.

      AT&T just barely got through it's recent merger review, so there's a "legal spotlight" on them right now, not to mention their "debt burden" is currently SKY HIGH.

      As for Verizon, they would have to diverge their focus from their core business strength in their wireless business, not to mention their "ice age slow" improvements/expansion to their FiOS product in NYC and their general desire to get out of the landline business as a whole.

    3. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      FCC and the interstate commerce clause tells NY state to go fuck itself.

    4. Re:Nelson says by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Insightful

      FCC and the interstate commerce clause tells NY state to go fuck itself.

      Neither has any bearing. Charter bought a legal entity that exists in New York State. They must comply with state law in the operations of that entity. They didn't. They lose.

    5. Re: Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      States rights! 10th amendment!

      I love how people like to claim things when it suits them, and forget them when it's convenient.

      People Trump corporations, people Trump states, and people can amend the federal constitution, so actual people Trump the country.

    6. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Charter can buy how ever it wanted where ever it wants. NY has zero authority to prevent this.

    7. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation that isn't the URL to your bumhole, please...

      TCP for my bumhole!

    8. Re: Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Antiseptic?

    9. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cable and telephone companies operate within local markets under the authority of local franchise agreements, among other things. they damn well can kick any of them out of a market, or out of the entire state.

      charter needed new york's approval to purchase time warner cable operations in that state. they agreed to certain terms in order to obtain that approval. they did not live up to their end. the state has chosen to rescind that approval because of that, as is their right to do so.

      charter can go fuck themselves.

      now, the question is.. why hasn't new york flexed their muscles elsewhere... every fucking cable and telephone company has abused and violated their operating agreements and/or stolen grant/taxpayer money intended for build-outs.

    10. Re: Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TCP and A URL aren't mutually exclusive. The both tunnel up your A hole over TCP.

    11. Re:Nelson says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Charter is allowed to operate in the state of New York. However, they are in the process of having their franchise agreements terminated and transferred to another party. This will prevent them from providing any wireline services, including CATV, Broadband or Voice services -- all of which are regulated by the PSC and the State. Essentially, in exchange for monopoly status as a Cable Television provider, Charter has to sign franchise agreements with the State and the municipalities they serve. Those franchise agreements are subject to be lost if the company screws up too much -- and they did in this case.

    12. Re:Nelson says by jrmcferren · · Score: 0

      Charter should refuse to sell the system and simply shut the thing off and pay all the applicable FCC fines and tell New York to suck it. The government has been over regulating wireline communications since the 1980s. BRING BACK THE BELL SYSTEM!

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  2. Win for Municipal broadband in the Empire State? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anybody care to comment on the odds of municipalities being able to pick up some of these assets to run on their own?

  3. The NYS PSC by rlitman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    wields a very heavy hammer. Frankly, I'm amazed that Charter would so flagrantly disregard them, as every other utility here takes PSC complaints VERY seriously. I guess this will keep the rest even more in line.

    1. Re:The NYS PSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words the PSC does it's job. I wish the equivalent regulatory bodies in other states did the same.

    2. Re:The NYS PSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is this the regulatory body actually doing its job or Charter not paying the appropriate bribes as other corps in NY?

    3. Re:The NYS PSC by Jadecristal · · Score: 1

      The phrase I believe you're looking for is "pour encourager les autres", which yes... one would hope that this will do.

      OTOH, if Charter isn't filing for an injunction in court by Monday to stay the order pending, uh... "negotiation of financial instruments which definitely aren't going to the politician over there watching from the corner" I will be *shocked*.

    4. Re:The NYS PSC by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      You sign an agreement then either you abide by it or you get hit with the hammer.

    5. Re: The NYS PSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From my experience, NY politics is corrupt, but NY agencies actually do their jobs. In contrast to NYC agencies, which are corrupt and don't do what they are paid to do.

  4. Shoud the win by jmccue · · Score: 1

    Charter told Ars that it plans to fight the PSC's order to sell the former Time Warner Cable system

    Should charter take this to the Federal supreme court, where they will probably win, I hope NY adds a 99% revenue tax (not profit) on charter. An ACA court case seemed to say if it is a tax the state can do what it wants

    I wish my state had the balls NY seem to have now in reeling in this corrupt industry/p?

    1. Re:Shoud the win by zlives · · Score: 2

      can charter take this particular case to SCOTUS?

    2. Re:Shoud the win by jmccue · · Score: 1

      can charter take this particular case to SCOTUS?

      I would think so, the article states charter will be visiting the NY Supreme Court for this already. So where else would they be able to appeal to ?

    3. Re:Shoud the win by KixWooder · · Score: 4, Informative

      SCOTUS tends to stay out of state matters such as this (single state, no opposing rulings in various circuit courts). State supreme court is probably as high as they can go. They could appeal to SCOTUS, but it's doubtful they would take the case.

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    4. Re: Shoud the win by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Well itâ(TM)s the supreme law of the land so if they can come up with a constitutional reason they can certainly try. Whether the court will hear it is another matter.

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    5. Re:Shoud the win by tsstahl · · Score: 1

      In New York, the Supreme Court is the bottom--the actual trial court. Sounds impressive and looks it on a business card, I suppose.

    6. Re:Shoud the win by andymadigan · · Score: 1

      The New York State Court of Appeals

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    7. Re:Shoud the win by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      That tax would have to apply to ALL cable providers, so Comcast and cox would get same tax else could rule it illegal to single out 1 company like it does. Further more take 1 guess who will feel the major brunt of that tax? Yes the people of NY so in the end people of the state would be worse off. That is just common sense.

    8. Re:Shoud the win by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they could structure it so it just happened to only apply to Charter. Say a tax on promised services that haven't been delivered or some such.

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    9. Re:Shoud the win by RPI+Geek · · Score: 1

      The highest court in NYS is, somewhat confusingly, the Court of Appeals (source). So NY Supreme Court would likely be the court of original jurisdiction.

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  5. Cable by Translation+Error · · Score: 2

    Wow, a cable company failing to live up to its promises and obligations and actually being smacked hard for it? I am shocked and amazed. Which is sad.

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    1. Re:Cable by zlives · · Score: 1

      i am just waiting to be disappointed when verizon comes in to buy the leftovers,

    2. Re:Cable by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Wow, a cable company failing to live up to its promises and obligations and actually being smacked hard for it? I am shocked and amazed. Which is sad.

      We'd be better off without a PUC preventing competition, but since they're there it's amazing to see them actually enforce their rules. The regulatory-capture revolving door must be temporarily out of order.

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    3. Re:Cable by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Smacked hard? Lol: Charter was a big "donor" to Cuomo for both AG and Governor.

      Cuomo received $116,957,462.05 from corporations in the last 10 years (he also has his PAC and "Friends of Cuomo" entities which I haven't even included). Top of the list: Charter/TWC.

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  6. Found the Trump nutsack swinger. ^^^ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    How's those lips doing sucking on Trumps tiny microdick? Not tired yet?

  7. Re:Win for Municipal broadband in the Empire State by zlives · · Score: 2

    that would be awesome but highly unlikely

  8. Nice! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's good to see these soulless corporations held to account for their bullshit. I hope NY now tries to make it easier for smaller telecomm companies to provide services to would-be consumers.

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    1. Re: Nice! by jeff4747 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gotta love the folks who just skip over the "failure to meet deadlines", "failure to serve rural areas as agreed", and "failure to meet obligations they agreed to in TWC merger" parts.

      How DARE these evil regulators require a business do what it said it would do. This must be all about unions.

    2. Re: Nice! by luther349 · · Score: 2

      yes but he was saying the failure was due to a union fight not just because they didn't fell like doing it as per normal.

    3. Re: Nice! by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      They failed to meet their deadlines and other commitments before the union fight started.

      And there's things like pulling permits which do not require union work, and the lack of such activities demonstrates they aren't particularly gung-ho on actually meeting those commitments.

    4. Re: Nice! by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They failed to meet their deadlines and other commitments before the union fight started.

      Chances are, Charter was probably going to slip under the radar, then they started the union fight. The union reacted by filing a complaint with the PSC which led to an investigation and all the charges.

      Charter was probably hoping to skirt by doing crap and having no one noticed, then they started fighting with the union and someone there realized Charter isn't quite on the up and up.

      Usually it's just a pressure tactic, but I guess this time it backfired on Charter

    5. Re: Nice! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Also: Elections in November.

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    6. Re: Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who set the deadlines?

    7. Re: Nice! by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      Charter and the PSC agreed to them as part of the approval for the TWC purchase.

    8. Re:Nice! by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Most likely the contract will go to Comcast, and consumers will be subjected to arbitrary bandwidth rationing. Government is the ultimate corporate racket, it is not here to help.

  9. Re: If Trump tweets out some shit on this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then he'd come back to New York from the hellhile to which he was exiled.

  10. Now if only Seattle would do that by snapsnap · · Score: 2

    Most of the city has a government-granted monopoly given to Comcast and as far as I know, they haven't expanded service in years. I have a few friends that live in the Wave area, and I'm jealous of the prices they pay and the bandwidth they have.

    1. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seattle's broadband problems are entirely self inflicted.

    2. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile in Tacoma I get to pick between DSL, two different cable providers or fiber to the home.

    3. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Most of the city has a government-granted monopoly given to Comcast and as far as I know,

      Then you know wrong, since exclusive franchises have been illegal by federal law for more than 20 years.

    4. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And yet there are all sorts of ways to allow or even encourage a de facto monopoly without violating that federal law.

    5. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's fine, but that's not what was claimed. There is no " government granted monopoly".

    6. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Only if you're being pedantic.

    7. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinda seems important, if you're criticizing the government for imposing a monopoly, as to whether it's a government granted monopoly or a defacto monopoly. I wouldn't call that "pedantic".

    8. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by omnichad · · Score: 1

      If you're criticizing and not taking legal action, it makes precisely no difference at all.

    9. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      A de facto monopoly is not a government-granted one. When someone complains that a cable company has a government-granted monopoly, then they are either ignorant or deliberately spreading misinformation.

      There are also many reasons for de facto monopolies, none of which have anything to do with franchising or federal law. Of COURSE a municipality can ALLOW a de facto monopoly. It isn't against the law for a de facto monopoly to exist.

      But this has NOTHING to do with ISPs, because there has NEVER been a government-granted monopoly to any ISP.

    10. Re:Now if only Seattle would do that by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      If you're criticizing and not taking legal action, it makes precisely no difference at all.

      Of course it makes a difference. The solution is different. For a "government-granted monopoly" for a cable company, you send the information to the federal DOJ and they can prosecute. Also, as specifically mentioned in the law, if YOU are denied a competing franchise, YOU can sue. I cannot sue on your behalf. You cannot sue on behalf of anyone else.

      If it is a de facto monopoly, there is no lawsuit. No law is being broken. If nobody wants to compete, that's their FREE CHOICE. You can't force another company to come compete against an incumbent. Who are YOU going to sue because nobody else wants to run a cable company in Rochester, NY, for example? What legal action do you think is possible?

  11. Contract dispute; Charter failed to honor. by CraigCruden · · Score: 1

    It seems like a simple contract dispute, the merger was approved on an agreement with Charter with regards to certain obligations. Charter did not meet it's obligations under the agreement, it failed to rectify them after being given time... so the agreement is null and void. I don't see it as much of an issue for the Supreme Court.

    1. Re:Contract dispute; Charter failed to honor. by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Charter claims that they "did" fulfill those obligations. This is just saber-rattling by lawmakers for the November elections, once December rolls around, this will all be 'resolved'.

      Charter has directly given $556,970.60 in the last two years to the same people that are complaining, most of it right before the Charter/TWC merger was approved.

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    2. Re:Contract dispute; Charter failed to honor. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If Chgarter did fulfill the obligations then it can present this in court. If the court decides that they broke the agreement though then tough luck for them.

  12. Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My first thought is what does ordering out of state mean? The fiber they own, the Right-a-ways they own, any contractual monoplies they own and existing service contracts they own are property with value. Will they be able to sell these assets? If not it's a seizure of private property. Perhaps they will be allowed to continue service providing just not solicit new bussiness? Perhaps they will be allowed to lease these to another service provider?
    What I might guess is that they spin off a company called "not-Charter" and then sell or lease these assets to this wholly separate company. A holding company is created to hold both Charter and "not-charter" so one company now owns both companies (like Alphabet).
    Municipalities might try to fit to edge into this but how? not-charter has a competitive advantage of the customer base and existing lines. Municipalities might try to lease the lines but then they are just leasing charter stuff. They could start building out their own but things like right-aways on poles and properties will be a difficult thicket. Witness how Google fiber got screwed out of space on poles and conduits because they were not a registered telecom or lacked monopoly grants.
    Ironically the thicket of regulations that might seem like limits of cable companies are lobbied for by these companies to create entry barriers. THey like paying for rights of way because it denies others. There are often state wide laws that prohibit a municipality from competing with private enterprise. Municipalities are not allowed to favor one company over another by gifting them anything (anti-donation clauses to avoid graft).

    Thus charter exits, and non-charter enters. The customer's ID number on their bills doesn't even change. The profits all go to the holding company and the same share holders as before.

    Cuomo moves on to the senate, and then charter donates to the campaign for his replacement. three years from Now charter buys out "non-charter".

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    1. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think it's likely that Charter really would sell the assets to a distinctly different cable company rather than a subsidiary created for the purpose of evading NY's order. It's entirely possible that those assets would be purchased by a company like Comcast or Cox, neither of which is much of an improvement over Charter. It's also possible that a company like Verizon might want into the cable business, something that's been discussed previously. I doubt that Verizon would be a significant improvement, either.

      I'm in Lincoln, Nebraska, another formerly TWC market that's now controlled by Charter. It's clear that Charter is trying to cut costs dramatically due to the debt from purchasing TWC. We used to get OTA channels from Omaha, which is 50 miles away, but those have steadily been removed. There used to be a call center in Lincoln and they actually provided pretty good customer service. That's since been closed. It also used to be possible for existing customers to negotiate with TWC and get additional promotions to keep bills relatively low. The cable company still makes a profit even at those reduced rates except that Charter has to pay off a large amount of debt from purchasing TWC.

      That's why selling off some assets might actually help Charter to some degree. Yes, it reduces their subscriber base, but it also provides an infusion of cash to pay off their debt from the purchase of TWC. The problem is that those markets will probably be acquired by Comcast, Cox, or a nearly equally evil outsider like Verizon.

    2. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It means the State of New York revokes Charter's ability to carry on public utility business within the State. More importantly, it must divest itself of those business units that are under the PSC's regulatory discretion and do so in a manner that does not interrupt service to the customers. Failing to do so will incur additional penalties, for which the PSC is ready to take those proceedings all the way to the Supreme Court if needed.

      In other words, a corporation is going to find out very quickly that you just don't fuck with the regulatory bodies of a sovereign power.

    3. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by jeff4747 · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're required to sell the infrastructure to someone else. If they fail to do so in a timely manner, then eminent domain-style action will probably take place.

    4. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My first thought is what does ordering out of state mean? The fiber they own, the Right-a-ways they own, any contractual monoplies they own and existing service contracts they own are property with value. Will they be able to sell these assets? If not it's a seizure of private property.

      Which is entirely legal in New York State. After Kelo v. City of New London several states amended their constitutions to prevent economic takings. Others passed laws forbidding it. New York did neither. If Charter refuses to do as ordered, NYS can and will use eminent domain to force them to, and they will succeed, very quickly by modern judicial standards, because of Kelo. It won't even make it out of federal circuit court.

    5. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Not eminent domain, they will simply setup their own public auction and give the proceeds to the Company.

    6. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We used to get OTA channels from Omaha, which is 50 miles away, but those have steadily been removed.

      They were removed because there wasn't sufficient advertising income from your neck of the woods. OTA stations are not owned by cable conglomerates (FCC makes it near impossible for that to happen). The OTA station is owned by a local(ish) corporation that leases their broadcasting infrastructure to a television network (the big four, runts like Sinclair, and/or goofy OTA syndicated rerun networks). Its possible that Charter saw it in their interest to "cheapy" hire a lobbyist to harrass the US senator or state legislators to shut the OTA station down, but I question whether Charter makes money by investing to be that petty. Don't suggest a conspiracy theory where it can't float on its own.

    7. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd argue that Kelo had nothing to do with it. The state always had the power to regulate businesses they consider to have an impact on their citizens, and bargain for services or complicity from the company in exchange for "exclusive" franchises. The company made an original agreement with the state PSC, they did not live up to the agreement, the state PSC proceeds to invalidate the original transaction.

      It has nothing to do with "eminent domain", the state mandated seizure of property for the "local community" interest. There are recognized federal legal precedents to hold federal laws regulating interstate commerce superior to state law, but they probably have no relevance here. A company cannot initiate a federal regulatory proceeding against the state on behalf of the federal gov't.

    8. Re:Meet the new boss same as the old boss. by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Equally likely is Cuomo moves on to the federal penitentiary adjoining Shel Silver's cell.

  13. Re:If Trump tweets out some shit on this... by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

    Gov doesn't have power to do such a thing on top of he lacks any balls to even try.

  14. Re:fuck new york by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inorite! Fuck those dumb ass people thinking they have rights, it's money that talks!

  15. Politicians are too dumb to even politic by raymorris · · Score: 0

    We see how stupid politicians end up being when they try to do their own job. Imagine them trying to run an ISP! ROTFL

    1. Re:Politicians are too dumb to even politic by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      They are not trying to run an ISP dipshit, they are enforcing a legally binding contract, which is what lawyers do, and I would say most politicians are lawyers. So they are doing what the fuck they are paid and trained to do.

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  16. Not a death penalty... by rnturn · · Score: 1

    ... but it is "a humiliating kick in the crotch". I can think of a few other cable companies that deserve one.

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  17. Holy farukin crap by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    Someone actually went to bat for us plebes. Way to go!

    Then again, my 60 y/o cynical self thinks it's more like they didn't grease enough palms.

    1. Re:Holy farukin crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol - it's NEW YORK. You're about to get more fucked than you ever expected...just that the NY government wheels use more lube than others.

      Look at that crazy Ocario chick for an example. lol

    2. Re:Holy farukin crap by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Why should California get all the wierdos like Maxine and Pelosi? We have to balance out the west coast.

  18. Re:Win for Municipal broadband in the Empire State by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The state spelled out exactly what Charter had to do in order to be allowed to purchase Time Warner. Charter agreed to the conditions. Now, Charter is being punished for not adhering to the specific details of the agreement (and for lying and saying that they had). The state tells them to GTFO and sell back the property, per their agreement

    This is exactly how this should work, and good on New York for following through.

  19. Re:fuck new york by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The US would go broke, and your local military base in Buttfuck, Nowhere would shutdown. Go fuck yourselves, traitor Putin bitches.

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  20. The Supreme Court will just declare the tax by rsilvergun · · Score: 0

    unconstitutional. I hate to say it, but with Trump's victory all branches above Dog Catcher belong to the the corporatists. As bad as Hilary was she wasn't 100% anti-consumer/pro-corporate, she was just a clueless rich person trapped in a bubble. The folks using Trump (and make no mistake, he's being used) are the worst sort. They'll rule against any law that gets in their way.

    It's going to take 50 years to undo the damage, longer if we don't wake up.

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  21. IANAL and all that... by BankRobberMBA · · Score: 1

    This is a state case in the state system. It can only go to the SCOTUS if they can get into the federal system. This requires them to show some kind of federal jurisdiction or a constitutional issue.

    If they can make this showing, they can go to the US District Court. If they lose there, they go to the US Appeals Court for that district. If they lose there, they appeal to the SCOTUS (and good luck with that; they decide less than 150 cases each year out of about 7000 requests).

    However, the issues at play here seem pretty clean and inside state jurisdiction. This makes it hard to come up with convincing arguments that the feds should step in. That means that any of the three federal court levels listed above might refuse to hear the case, in which case, they're baked.

  22. Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since ISPs are essentially monopoly utilities, they are watched by PSC.

  23. Not anymore! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not anymore. Seattle stopped the monopolies last year. So now Wave Broadband also has a charter that covers all of the Seattle area. Unfortunately, they aren't that better than Comcast :(

  24. Excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Charter should also be sure to spend the money to remove ALL infrastructure that they put into place, too - see how much other companies like rolling out their own wiring, etc.

  25. Fail by raymorris · · Score: 1

    >> municipalities being able to pick up some of these assets to run on their own?

    > not trying to run an ISP dipshit

    Reading comprehension fail.

  26. Gee, thanks! by Jeff+Archambeault · · Score: 1

    After 12 years of trying to get cable service 5 power poles up my road via 3 diff companies (Adelphia, Time Warner, and now Spectrum), there was some hope this March. On a whim I called the # for Spectrum I just saw on TV, the CSR says "Oh yeah, we just opened up that service area to new orders and you are the first!". "Great, Let's do it!" I said. "2 weeks....blah blah blah". 3 weeks later, no return call, so I call... "Oh, your address is un-serviceable," they say. "Three weeks ago you said I was," I reply. Unfortunately it was on a weekend, got transferred to 2 other CSRs, the last of which attempted to be helpful as he could, but still no real answers. I just wanted them to keep to their word.

    Off go complaints to the Attorney General's office and the NYS Rural Broadband Commission (especially appropriate, I thought, because Gov Cuomo announced that Phase 3 was 100% successful (how could it be, I still don't have this "broadband" they are speaking of)).

    Got a phone call from the Rural Broadband Commission in May explaining that the TWC/Charter/Spectrum deal wasn't part of the Rural Broadband Initiative. Great. But if we are absolutely unservicable, by the end of the year, they will make a deal available from Hughesnet (which we currently have, at 1.5mbps at best...albeit gen3 if it's called that). Ok, not ideal, but something a _little_ better (same abysmal latency but theoretically faster, still not all-you-can-eat).

    Then we get a visit from one of Charter's construction/survey dept reps in late May, sees what needs to be done, and says you'll have service in Dec/Jan. Woot!

    I've been carrying around and bragging about 2 letters I got around June 6, in the same envelop. One from the Attorney General, saying Charter's response to my complaint is enclosed. Charter's letter says construction will be completed in Jan 2019, but the timeline is subject to change. Yay! I have it in writing!!!!

    Yeah, right. Thanks. Heard the news yesterday on the radio, and immediately knew those letters were now null and void.

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    Plus ca change, plus c'est les memes choses.