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Google Categorically Refuses To Remove the Pirate Bay's Homepage (torrentfreak.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TorrentFreak: This year alone, at least 15 separate takedown notices ask Google to remove ThePirateBay.org from its index. Most of these are sent by the reporting agency Digimarc, on behalf of book publishers such as Penguin Random House, Kensington Publishing, and Recorded Books. This year alone, at least 15 separate takedown notices ask Google to remove ThePirateBay.org from its index. Most of these are sent by the reporting agency Digimarc, on behalf of book publishers such as Penguin Random House, Kensington Publishing, and Recorded Books. Over the years, The Pirate Bay's homepage has been targeted more than 70 times. While there's no shortage of reports, TPB's homepage is still in Google's index.
Since TPB's homepage is not infringing, Google categorically refuses to remove it from its search results. While the site itself has been downranked, due to the high number of takedown requests Google receives for it, ThePirateBay.org remains listed. Google did remove The Pirate Bay's homepage in the past, by accident, but that was swiftly corrected. "Google received a (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) take-down request that erroneously listed Thepiratebay.org, and as a result, this URL was accidentally removed from the Google search index," Google said at the time. "We are now correcting the removal, and you can expect to see Thepiratebay.org back in Google search results this afternoon," the company added.
Since TPB's homepage is not infringing, Google categorically refuses to remove it from its search results. While the site itself has been downranked, due to the high number of takedown requests Google receives for it, ThePirateBay.org remains listed. Google did remove The Pirate Bay's homepage in the past, by accident, but that was swiftly corrected. "Google received a (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) take-down request that erroneously listed Thepiratebay.org, and as a result, this URL was accidentally removed from the Google search index," Google said at the time. "We are now correcting the removal, and you can expect to see Thepiratebay.org back in Google search results this afternoon," the company added.
'Nuff said.
This is nothing more than self-preservation. TPB is nothing more than a search engine. If they took it down, they'd have to take down themselves.
Do you even bother reading the f***ing summary you get sent ?
Seriously, WTF do you guys do? This place has gone to the dogs.
Have gnu, will travel.
This is probably a big money maker for Google to snitch on people dumb enough to use their "service."*
* The service being by ass-rammed by a mega-billion corporation.
Google ThePirateBay.org so we know how to find it.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Could also be seen as anti-competitive.
The site itself is IP blocked in UK. Not that that makes the slightest difference with all the proxies around.
"Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
You could start by looking up the definition of "categorically".
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Australia too at the ISP level, so trivial to work around
In much the same fashion as Guns don't kill people, People kill people..., sites that allow users the freedom to work within, and well outside the copyright infringement law, are not liable for misuse by those same users.
For example: The cash dollar, or Euro/yen/yuan, can be used for millions of legitimate bartering transactions. Yet, there are categorically provably a small percentage of illegal transactions that result from the sheer anonymity of these cash trades.
It's fair to say Google has developed the ability to skirt the morality of these issues, yet if the possibility of corruption of the system by the users is deemed a blacklisted offense, what happens to Google's Youtube?
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One that actually indexes the entire internet
IP is not blocked in australia (well, not my ISP anyway), the ISPs' DNS servers redirect the domain name to bogus IP. If you use non-australian DNS servers for that specific domain, you get around it.
So, you think companies should, if ordered, help round up some Jews for a concentration camp? Nominally, I understand the whole "follow the law" aspect of things. Sometimes people/companies (by proxy of people) refuse lawful things which I think they have little reason to meddle in--it's their job to provide X indiscriminately and various employees at said job should provide X. But then there's other stuff where it's clear to just go along is to engage in something that's complicit in something quite horrible.
Do I think something like copyright and ThePirateBay rise to that level? Not directly. Do I think general freedom of speech should be preserved, and the job of countries should be to go after bad actors and not simply those that point them out? Yes.
If what ThePirateBay does is legal in its host country, then it should continue to stay up. We've had a long history of having treaties to have harmonization of laws, and it should really be up to that (and trade sanctions) to motivate countries to take down sites that most countries believe should be unlawful. Yes, it can take a while to go after sites, but that's what injunctions are for when time is needed to fully prosecute a case but the harm needs to be slowed down now.
The thing that really bothers me is not that Google refuses to take down links to ThePirateBay. It's that their downranking is not focused on giving good search results but bowing to such pressure which should not have sway on the results. At this point, trying to find something with too many take down or otherwise notices suddenly becomes searching for a site you already know exists in a sea of noise, which amounts to near censorship. It's not like Google Search does a good job past the first few pages, normally, so it's effective a delisting if you can push it back far enough. That's effectively the point of downranking.
Did they not send a request, under penalty of perjury, that thepiratebay.org was infringing their copyright when infact they knew it did not?
In the related news 'Google plans to launch censored search engine in China' https://theintercept.com/2018/08/01/google-china-search-engine-censorship/
Nope, no dissonance here.
Google's own public DNS servers work just fine :)
You could start by looking up the definition of "categorically".
Definition: Horrifically mauled by a cat.
Example: That rat was categorically chewed up.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Crap, where's mod points when I need'em? +5 Funny
Shhhhhhhh
At least they did something not evil? Are you serious? There is a real reason they left TPB. It's called a honeypot. It doesn't work if you remove it.
You want them to concentrate more? They're already too damn smart.
Shhhhhhh, don't tell anyone!
Sending a false (I'm sorry, "erroneous") DMCA take-down request should get future take-down requests by the submitting entity downranked and de-prioritized in the queue.
Why isn't everyone using OpenNIC with dnscrypt?
No it's not. A few ISPs have blocked it, but none of the ones I've used in recent years (Metronet, Entanet, Merula) have blocked it.
Even if it's driven by self-interest, Google should resist any attempts to be made a de-facto internet cop. It will only come back to bite them, legally.
As someone who laughs when shill rants insist they need to DEFEND the FREEDOM of corporate powers who have the RIGHT to something something CHOICE something JUSTICE...
...I think it's sort of disturbing when we begin to forcibly compel companies without even using any previously-made legislation. A bit of an above-the-law mentality.
The MAFIAAs can send all the suggestions they want. Unfortunately there's no law against that.
Google can ignore the requests all they want. Unfortunately there's no law against that.
We nominate you to lead the effort to make that happen!
One click, two news copies!
This year alone, at least 15 separate takedown notices ask Google to remove ThePirateBay.org from its index. Most of these are sent by the reporting agency Digimarc, on behalf of book publishers such as Penguin Random House, Kensington Publishing, and Recorded Books. This year alone, at least 15 separate takedown notices ask Google to remove ThePirateBay.org from its index. Most of these are sent by the reporting agency Digimarc, on behalf of book publishers such as Penguin Random House, Kensington Publishing, and Recorded Books.
No need to wait a day to get your doublette any more.
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They had to say it not once but twice. This just proves that it must not only be important but that the editors don't do ANY editing. I don't even think they HAVE editors anymore here, just automated repeaters. With all this talk about AI one would think at least THAT would catch something so freaking obvious. Wow They had to say it not once but twice. This just proves that it must not only be important but that the editors don't do ANY editing. I don't even think they HAVE editors anymore here, just automated repeaters. With all this talk about AI one would think at least THAT would catch something so freaking obvious. Wow
Hey Slashdot, I really want to pay to get my horribly written content on your front page like this guy obviously did!
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Thanks. Loved your show. :-)
( Couldn't resist given your username ... )
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I wonder how many of the people wanting them to take down tpb links are the same ones that are outraged that google wants to start a censored search engine in China?
Also, taking down something that also exist on the TOR network as a onion address would be hard :
The Pirate Bay
And speaking of search engines take-downs :
Duck Duck Go, too is available as a onion address on the Tor network.
So similarily in the "not going to happen" category.
(And in an almost completely missing the point kind of irony, I've read that Facebook is also present as an onion on TOR, probably due to country where it is banned. I have no idea if the address is legit, though - too lazy and don't care enough to check it).
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If I search for "The Pirate Bay" on google all I get is proxies and some articles. Meanwhile, same search in duckduckgo places the .org as first hit.
use something like 1.1.1.1 instead, why give google even more information about you than they already have.
Try filetype:torrent the next time you look for a Mettalica song. https://www.google.co.uk/searc...
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
None of those services offer a decent connection
you managed to misspell Metallica twice.
I think you may have repeated yourself, I think you may have repeated yourself. /. to actually fucking proof read their own shit.
Fuck a duck, I would expect people posting articles to
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
They are happy to take down individual result and torrent detail pages though.
I doubt it's got anything to do with the nature of TPB, it's just that the homepage is so sparse that there is nothing infringing on it. Naturally they only process take-downs for pages that actually have infringing content on them.
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They obviously offer better connections than your censoring ISP does in that they allow you to connect to the whole internet.
Who's Nic and why is he opened to the idea of scrypting a DN?
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Honey pot? Monsanto sure are doing weird cross-breeds these days...
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Depends which ISP you're with. The big UK ISPs which have a vested interest in you not pirating the shit out of stuff because they have a hand in media like Virgin Media, Sky, BT, etc do indeed block. Smaller regional ISPs seem not to bother. Either way, it's trivial to bypass.
Too fucking bad.
Most of these are sent by the reporting agency Digimarc, on behalf of book publishers such as Penguin Random House, Kensington Publishing, and Recorded Books.
Because privacy isn't actually important. We've never had it.
I wonder if the headline should have added "except in China".
can you guys check the wording better like what is going on
I think the movie industry needs to pay. It's not googles job to block websites. The movie industry needs to be more creative in the way they do business.
I have pay TV service and there is lots of movies on different channels. It's just more fun to download then changing the channel.
Why is TAX PAYERS paying the FBI, HomeLand, etc for trolling the Internet? It's actually the movie's industry that needs to be paying them, not the tax payers.
I think the movie industry needs to pay. It's not googles job to block websites. The movie industry needs to be more creative in the way they do business.
I have pay TV service and there is lots of movies on different channels. It's just more fun to download then changing the channel.
Why is TAX PAYERS paying the FBI, HomeLand, etc for trolling the Internet? It's actually the movie's industry that needs to be paying them, not the tax payers.
What an odd, ill-informed comment!
Metronet doesn't exist any more, it was bought out by PlusNet some years ago.
Entanet is a "white-label" wholesale ISP, you can only get its services via a reseller. It's perfectly fine and, like all the others I've used, on my exchange it uses BT wholesale for its backhaul.
Merula is my current ISP and has been absolutely fine - I get something like 72Mbps no matter whether it's day or night, not least because I'm not contending with many other users at the exchange. It also makes "elevated best efforts" available, which increases your traffic priority on BT's network.
I'll be moving to a fibre-on-demand connection with Cerberus soon - they also use BT's backhaul and, unlike larger ISPs, also give access to the whole of the Web. Yes, including the bits that BT retail (as opposed to wholesale), Sky, TalkTalk and the rest block.
Can we complain and get a down rank on POTUS and get is off Google?
This is the same company that removed 8chan for discussing(!) a racketeering ring in the games industry and that removes employees for knowing about chromosomes. They have a long way to go to get back to not being evil again.
You're right - Apparently larger ISPs are compelled by law to subscribe to things like the IWF child porn filter, which originally they said they wouldn't abuse for things like this but have done anyway, so they get blocked.
However, smaller ISPs with a subscriber base lower than... something... don't have to.
Andrews and Arnold are quite an outspoken ISP on opposing arbitrary filtering