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BBC Wants Microsoft To Expose 'Doctor Who' Leaker (torrentfreak.com)

Last month, the BBC headed to court to track down the person who leaked an incomplete scene featuring Jodie Whittaker's Thirteenth Doctor. New court documents suggest that the British broadcaster has yet to find the perpetrator, and is hoping Microsoft can help. At a federal court in Washington, the BBC requested a DMCA subpoena targeted at a OneDriver user who shared the infringing material online late June. TorrentFreak reports: In an effort to track down the source of the leak the BBC has taken the matter to the U.S. courts. Last month it obtained a DMCA subpoena from a California federal court, ordering the forum tool Tapatalk to identify the source of an infringing post. Whether this resulted in any useful information is unknown, but a few days ago it became clear that BBC is still investigating the matter. In a separate effort, BBC Studios have filed a request for a DMCA subpoena at a Federal court in Washington. This time it's directed at Microsoft. According to the BBC, a user of Microsoft's OneDrive stored and shared a copy of the leaked file, titled "IMG_ l563.TRIM.MOV."

"The infringing material includes, without limitation, an unauthorized copy of copyrighted video content from Season 11, Episode 1 of Doctor Who, for which BBC Worldwide Limited t/a BBC Studios (Distribution) is the exclusive licensee," the BBC writes. According to the BBC, the footage in question was stolen from the studio. Through the subpoena, the company hopes to find out more about the source of this leak, to prevent similar situations going forward. It asks Microsoft to hand over any relevant information that can help to identify the account holder who uploaded the video, which was added to OneDrive back in June. This includes "any name, account name, address, telephone number, email address, birth date, profile photo, device information, browser information, location information, information from others (e.g., Facebook or Google+) and time posted."

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  1. Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Clinton gave us both Hillary and the DMCA.

    Ouch.

    1. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Properly applied, the DMCA could actually give us all a means of protecting our personal information. But, who cares. Everyone's so focused on hating it
      that they can't bother thinking of ways to leverage it.

      LOL.

      Properly applied, fire is a wonderful tool.

      That doesn't mean sitting a 3-year-old on top of a case of dynamite and handing him a fucking flamethrower is a good idea.

    2. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

      But you'd be able to go on holidays outside of the school holiday season!

    3. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You've been allowed to hate Bill Clinton for decades now, your thoughts, such as they are, are free.

      Wouldn't have been any different under Dukaksis or Tsongas though*, the law was passed by bipartisan margins in the House and with unanimous consent in the Senate, and it hasn't been significantly changed in any way since despite decades of opportunity.

      The corporations got what they wanted from WIPO. They had enough politicians in their pocket across the world that blaming Bill Clinton is like blaming Mrs. O'Leary's cow.

      (*maybe Perot, but who knows what that nut job would have done? It isn't like he wouldn't kowtow to his corporate masters himself.)

    4. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      The DMCA tended to put too much responsibility on the content storage company then the individual copyright violator.

      Yes it is easier to target the storage company vs the violator. But it doesn't solve the problem, of the violation, and it just shifts where they go.

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    5. Re:Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      https://reason.com/blog/2018/0...

      Then you'll really hate what the Senate Democrats have in mind.

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    6. Re:Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I wish any of that was surprising.

      It's like the Patriot Act. Politicians always use a crisis (manufactured or not) to rip away or freedoms in the guise of protecting us.

    7. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      That doesn't mean sitting a 3-year-old on top of a case of dynamite and handing him a fucking flamethrower is a good idea.

      It depends. Is it a "Not A Flamethrower" by The Boring Company?

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    8. Re:Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Duh! Of course. It's the natural state of mankind. Anywhere you have consolidated power, the MO of those within that power is to ensure it's both maintained and limited to just themselves. That means authoritarianism and oppression. None of this is new, and in fact 100% to be expected. It's literally coded in our DNA.

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    9. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      But it doesn't solve the problem, of the violation, and it just shifts where they go.

      That's a common criticism, but I think it misses some important points. For one thing, the damage caused by copyright infringement is related to the scale of the infringement. When everyone used to copy cassette tapes and swap them at school, it was time-consuming to make those copies and they didn't spread very fast. In the online era, one popular source can rapidly distribute an infringing work to many more people. Moreover, those popular sources are often monetising their behaviour. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that they should bear some additional responsibility in light of their additional influence.

      Someone who is willing to give away an infringing work from their own personal site can still do so, and they won't then be subject to DMCA takedown notices in the same way... but they will also be paying the bills for hosting, which will quickly limit how much distribution actually happens in most cases, and they will be personally liable for damages when the infringement lawsuit arrives.

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    10. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by easyTree · · Score: 1

      What the hell? How are airlines to make a living if they're not able to exploit your lack of choice as a parent?

    11. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by 1ucius · · Score: 1

      >The more rational alternative is that corporations would be responsible for pursuing "pirates" in civil court.

      The internet wouldn't and couldn't exist with your rule. No ISP would be willing to shoulder that burden (i.e., contributory/vicarious infringement) without the DMCA's liability shields. And there was no way you'd ever get those shields without notice-and-takedown.

    12. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 1

      When everyone used to copy cassette tapes and swap them at school, it was time-consuming to make those copies and they didn't spread very fast

      Actually I wonder why this is not more common in the day of the external hard disk. You could copy your terabyte large collection onto a single disk and lend it to a friend.
      I would totally do this if I had more people among my acquaintances who like a mix of metal and classical music.

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    13. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      That doesn't mean sitting a 3-year-old on top of a case of dynamite and handing him a fucking flamethrower is a good idea.

      Depends on what your end game is. If your hoping the 3 year old will set off the dynamite by setting it on fire, then your out of luck. Dynamite doesn't explode when burnt, but it does burn very nicely. So if you want to have a really nice fire then, there you go.

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    14. Re: Can I really hate Bill Clinton now? by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

      Beats me. I can't even figure out how some of these airlines manage to pay their fuel bills as things are.

  2. Re:WTF? by Faluzeer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is this the level of comments nowadays?

    These days? It has been like for quite some time, certainly over a decade. This actually looks better than normal, so far there is very little spam.

  3. Good luck with that by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

    In this specific case, I suspect it was a timelord trying to warn us against the consequences of the DMCA. But if you really want to, you could try to visit the time traveller's convention.

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    1. Re:Good luck with that by giggleloop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please, point me to the part of Dr Who lore that says upon regeneration, the doctor must be male? It's more interesting that you find the mere presence of a woman on your screen to be such a political and subversive act... How do you make the magic box go bright using the pointy-clicker?

    2. Re:Good luck with that by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why do you automatically assume that a female doctor added to the show was there to be politically correct?
      I mean we had only two words from her official debut. In terms of narrative purposes We already had 12 (or is it 13) Changes in actors that bring a different take to the character the Doctor.
      Grumpy, Hobo, Super Spy, Bohemian, Jock, Egotist, Strategist, ..., Warrior, Resentful, Vengeful, Goofball, and Unsure.

      Lately narrative can write Female Hero's who are not so stereotypical and more general human. Where the gender is who they are, but not what guides the stories.

      Even a decade ago, it would had been politically correct to make a female doctor. But I doubt they would had been able to write a good one, with companions such as Rose and Martha showing the pitfalls in popular narrative of the time. However I think they are getting much better now, and can keep a compelling narrative with a female doctor now.

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    3. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's sad that they didn't think a show about a woman TimeLord would be good enough to stand on its own. Instead, they had to transgender the Doctor into a woman to try to keep the old fans plus the news ones that would be thrilled with this.

      I don't think anyone is saying the mere presence of a woman is political and subversive but it says a lot about you that you think that is the issue.

      I enjoy Blindspot, Buffy, Dollhouse, Alias, Fringe, the 100 etc. Most shows nowadays have a strong female lead.

    4. Re:Good luck with that by Slyfox696 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If it were not done for political reasons, why do it now? Why wasn't it done between 2005 and 2012?

      Why not do it now? Why is 2005-2012 somehow better than now? There is nothing in Dr. Who lore which says a Time Lord male cannot regenerate into a female (in fact, quite the opposite given The Master/Missy). So...aside from her being a woman, exactly what problem do you have with this?

      Did you miss the cultural shift where the public widely reject the "progressive" ideology of the elite?

      Casting actresses in a show is a "progressive ideology of the elite"? Perhaps in the 1700s, but it hasn't been for quite some time. You should look into making the leap into the 20th century. Being only 100 years behind the rest of us seems as if it would be an improvement for you.

    5. Re:Good luck with that by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Please, point me to the part of Dr Who lore that says upon regeneration, the doctor must be male?

      It's more interesting that you find the mere presence of a woman on your screen to be such a political and subversive act... How do you make the magic box go bright using the pointy-clicker?

      I believe that Dr. Who is one of the few shows which CAN get away with switching the gender of the lead star at it being acceptable to canon.

      Now, I do hope the doctor was chosen because she was perceived by Chibnal to be the best person for the job, and not only for being a woman. Jodie Whittaker is certainly a talented actress and I'm sure she can pull it off. As long as the show isn't all about feminism and female empowerment nothing has changed- you just have a talented female reprising the role that had been filled by an annoying Scottish man most recently.

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    6. Re:Good luck with that by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They were trying to revamp the show because it was getting stale. The standard method for doing that is to change showrunner and writing team (check) and introduce some new elements (check).

      What's strange is why it's such a big deal to people. The Doctor is an alien, largely sexless and uninterested in relationships... The biggest change will be how other people react to her, rather than anything she does I think.

      It's not even a new idea, we had all this decades ago in Star Trek with Trill characters. And they often did focus on their relationships. Maybe it's because the internet was less of a thing back then, but I don't remember the backlash against it at the time. It was just an interesting idea to be explored. The spin off idea is probably a non-starter just because the BBC doesn't have the money and the main series is in need to saving anyway.

      Perhaps you can explain, what is lost or lessened by having a female doctor?

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    7. Re:Good luck with that by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Those shows are flat and cringy.

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    8. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't get why you don't find it strange and how you can't see the political angle of it. It wasn't until the master changed to a woman that changing of sex was even a possibility. That is with 50 years plus of Doctor Who history. The idea that it's not a new simply because he is an alien is bogus. We were told he was a father. For a sexless species, you'd think they'd have a more gender neutral term or simply said he was a parent.

      And if it's no big deal, then why would the characters in the show react any different to the Doctor as a woman than any other new Who?

    9. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I'd be just as upset if they changed Buffy to a guy after she came back from the dead. Even if the excuse was "the story was stale with a woman in that role."

    10. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      You didn't like Buffy or Fringe?

    11. Re:Good luck with that by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1

      As long as the show isn't all about feminism and female empowerment nothing has changed- you just have a talented female reprising the role that had been filled by an annoying Scottish man most recently.

      The likelihood of this happening is practically zero. There will be numerous occasions where the Doctor will lament people not taking her seriously because "muh soggy knees" and every other "strong female protagonist" trope they lifted straight out of TV Tropes. Expect some "jokes" about "you wouldn't hit a woman", "I can do anything you can do but better", and all the other bullshit we've been subjected to since the 70s. I'll bet they even work a mansplaining line in at least once.

      There is just no way this show won't be a mess self-indulgent feminist/progressive bullshit. It largely was, already, and having muh strong female lead will just give them every excuse to turn it up to 11.

    12. Re:Good luck with that by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Because people were saying it was about time for a female doctor. Take your head out of your ass and read sometime.

      A female doctor does not make a compelling story. It's patronizing. They are saying we can't create an original female lead we need to based one on a existing male character. Gender bending is mental masturbation. It's done to titillate, not to be creative.

    13. Re:Good luck with that by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      As long as the show isn't all about feminism and female empowerment nothing has changed- you just have a talented female reprising the role that had been filled by an annoying Scottish man most recently.

      The likelihood of this happening is practically zero. There will be numerous occasions where the Doctor will lament people not taking her seriously because "muh soggy knees" and every other "strong female protagonist" trope they lifted straight out of TV Tropes. Expect some "jokes" about "you wouldn't hit a woman", "I can do anything you can do but better", and all the other bullshit we've been subjected to since the 70s. I'll bet they even work a mansplaining line in at least once.

      There is just no way this show won't be a mess self-indulgent feminist/progressive bullshit. It largely was, already, and having muh strong female lead will just give them every excuse to turn it up to 11.

      Let's wait until they show the first episode before we write the script for them. I'm sure there will be some light-hearted jokes on the matter, for sure; and there's nothing wrong with that. They've already had jokes at the expense of both England and Scotland with their Scottish actors on-board. Nothing to offend anyone. If they turn it into a "let's bash men" show then we have a reason to complain, but so far I have no evidence that they have, so there's nothing for anyone to complain about.

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    14. Re:Good luck with that by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't get to hung up on language. Who knows what the Time Lord language is like, maybe there is no concept of gender or maybe the convention is to use whatever the current incarnation is.

      More over, Who canon is contradictory and unclear. The writers do what they like, it's always been that way.

      Being female could create a different dynamic with her companions, and with the people she meets. Through much of Earth's history women have played very different roles in society. This was addressed in the last series where Bill found herself in a time when people with dark skin were slaves. They didn't make a huge deal out of it, but didn't ignore it either.

      Certainly better than the black Queen character they did. I'm hopeful they will do a good job with this.

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    15. Re:Good luck with that by jwdb · · Score: 1

      Equity espousing SJW types are sociopaths, there is no intellectual basis for their politics only vacuous dogma and group-think. Princess Leia, Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner... There was never any big deal about female characters (or race) until identity politics. Now we have paper thin, poorly motivated and overpowered characters like the chick in Star Wars. It's nothing other than political grandstanding and everything the SJW's touch turns to shit as a result. This is why it's an issue now and why people are calling it out and rejecting it.

      It is yet to be seen if the new Doctor will be a Lea/Ripley/Conner or a Rei. There have been thinly-written female characters as of late, but neither are all of them universally thin, nor are all future ones necessarily going to be thin. If 13 turns out to be thin then feel free to call her out, but you have no basis for doing so yet, do you?

      Attacking a character as poorly written before we've even seen them in action reeks of agenda having nothing to do with the actual character.

    16. Re:Good luck with that by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      > It wasn't until the master changed to a woman that changing of sex was even a possibility.

      Wrong.

      http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/T...

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    17. Re:Good luck with that by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Maybe in the past it was politics that insisted a show's lead must always be a man?

    18. Re:Good luck with that by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Rowan Atkinson regenerating into Joanna Lumley. Though this was done as a joke, the idea was definitely out there for a few decades.

      The characters may react differently to the Doctor as a woman because most of the characters are human and grew up with preconceived notions.

    19. Re:Good luck with that by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      In the sixties it would have been called Nurse Who? And the Brigadier would have said "quiet please, the men are talking!"

    20. Re:Good luck with that by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      It wasn't until the master changed to a woman that changing of sex was even a possibility.

      Moffet had introduced the possiblity years ahead of that. The eleventh doctor checking to see if he was still male in 2011 after regenerating. Refering to another time lord who had been female in two regenerations in 2012. The Sisters of Karn saying they could make the doctor regenerate as female in 2013. Then the Master in 2014.

    21. Re:Good luck with that by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Just playing devil's advocate here, but try to imagine the reaction if Dr. Who (or, say, Romana) had traditionally been female, and were suddenly switched to male...

    22. Re:Good luck with that by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's funny, I was hopeful when Moffat took over but he turned out to be worse than Davies. As you say, always seeming to build towards something that never came.

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    23. Re:Good luck with that by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      It's not even a new idea, we had all this decades ago in Star Trek with Trill characters. And they often did focus on their relationships. Maybe it's because the internet was less of a thing back then, but I don't remember the backlash against it at the time.

      It helped that Terry Farrell was both super hot and a decent actress. It also helped that it was an occasional side plot with not-incompetent writing, and that the male version of the character had not previously appeared in any Star Trek show, rather than being a replacement of the title character. Whether or not the BBC's writing will be competent remains to be seen.

      Stargate SG-1 also had a species that body-swapped, more parasitic than symbiotic, but still the same concept. The Goa'uld apparently had a marked preference for same-sex hosts, I think mostly to cater to being a 44 minute TV show, where changing of hosts (actors) is already difficult enough to keep track of, but it was also built into the back-story. When the Goa'uld were impersonating Egyptian gods, they had to take multiple hosts as old hosts aged and died, and apparently most of them stuck with the same sex, as for instance Ra is definitely a male god, and Bast definitely isn't.

      Sex fluid characters are a very old concept. In ancient times, they mostly appeared in religious fantasies, with dozens of deities that changed sex in the various pantheons of the world. In the modern era, they mostly appeared in science fiction and fantasy, and the subject treatment ranged from excellent to execrable. Now that the mainstream has started seeing it, somehow it's all new and controversial—and the writing is getting much worse.

    24. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I do agree Moffett has been setting the stage for this throughout his tenure

    25. Re:Good luck with that by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I was hoping for the same. I think he pulled it off with Smith who I honestly thought I was going to hate. There were a few clunkers but that's to be expected. Overall, the one I was least excited for became my favorite.

      It's funny because I was looking forward to the doctor that replaced him but I could barely finish his first series.

      It's possible you are correct and it got stale. I found it to dreary and felt it lost its fun factor. I like gritty shows and doctor who always seem to find that good balance until the last doctor

    26. Re:Good luck with that by jwdb · · Score: 1

      A lacklustre teaser, the sociopolitical backdrop of the casting and storylines that have sucked for years.

      Again, you have no idea yet whether or not the backdrop will have any impact on her performance. I'm hoping she'll do fine despite it. Don't judge a book by its cover, eh?

      As far as bad storylines, that's both debatable (I'd disagree, but to each his own) and, considering that the storylines you're referring to were with male actors, it has nothing to do with a woman being cast.

  4. Re:WTF? by beaker_72 · · Score: 1

    Is this the level of comments nowadays?

    Sadly yes, the comments are barely worth reading any more

  5. Re:WTF? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    Something something Natalie Portman's Hot Grits :-P

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  6. Jeezis by zwarte+piet · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm still waiting for season 10 to appear. Forever it seems.

  7. Waste of money by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1, Insightful

    BBC is exceptionally good at wasting money. What way to better waste money than to go to the ends of the earth trying to prosecute someone who is effectively adding to hype about your show. What are they even going to do when they find out who the leaker is, can't really do much beyond fire them if they're here in the UK. Civil damages? 1p would more than cover it.

    AKA get a fucking life BBC and stop wasting public money.

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    1. Re: Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The BBC is just acting like almost every other corporation out there. Even the vaunted Baen (which specifically released media to the public share) made efforts to shut down some distribution after their own mistakes.

      Besides, if you want something repugnant to complain about, there are better examples. Now that's something that matters.

    2. Re:Waste of money by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Who says they're spending lots of money on this? They really don't need to spend any serious money on this to still get all the press coverage they could dream of.

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    3. Re:Waste of money by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Amy Pond came back and she and the Doctor finally became the lovers we always knew they were.

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    4. Re:Waste of money by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Compared to American shows, BBC tends to be low volume only a few episodes per season. So they need to make sure each episode really counts.
      There is enough hype about the show. But a 1 minute clip taken out of context which may or may not be actually in the final cut. Can give the viewers the wrong impression of the show.

      Lets say for the 10th doctor release they showed the "Timelord Victorious" speech. Where in the story shows the doctor at his lowest and most vulnerable. Would make him seem like a villain not the hero.

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    5. Re:Waste of money by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They have to do this. Doctor Who is one of their big money makers that they sell abroad. If they don't protect their intellectual property the TV networks they sell too will find it less attractive. That sweet season opening with a brand new female doctor that is bound to attract a bigger than usual audience will be ruined if there are too many leaks.

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    6. Re:Waste of money by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Blah blah blah blah blah blah

      Apologizing for the BBC cause they can't generate meaningful content at a modern cadence that stands on its own?

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    7. Re:Waste of money by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      Getting the videos taken down as they did is good enough. Asking for details on the leakers is good enough. The rest is overkill for a 53 second clip. If people are fanatical about Dr Who then they will watch it anyway. If they're not fanatical about Dr Who then they very likely will never see the clip. All BBC has to do is say the clip is not representative of the final cut.

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    8. Re:Waste of money by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Oh snap!

    9. Re:Waste of money by Cederic · · Score: 1

      They know that someone with access to confidential materials is willing and able to share them outside the corporation.

      I'd want to find out who that is, and revoke their access. Wouldn't you?

    10. Re:Waste of money by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      It's a matter of degree, I don't think it's worth paying lawyers a load of money over a 53 second clip. An episode yes, a few seconds, no.

      They would have done enough by sending a strictly worded threatening memo to all staff under suspicion that they could be fired and prosecuted. Take-downs of the clip also appear to have been fairly successful.

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    11. Re:Waste of money by Cederic · · Score: 1

      How much do companies spend securing their systems, protecting confidential information, complying with various contracts around disclosure and data protection and obeying the law?

      Yet you think they should allow all of that expense and investment to go to waste by ignoring a threat vector that bypasses the lot of it? I don't.

    12. Re:Waste of money by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      Straw man, I didn't say they should ignore a 'threat vector'. I said what action they should take - action that costs less and is relative to the size of the problem.

      People are going nuts about copyright these days, I find it sad, remember it is a right granted by us the public. And in the UK it's us that are paying for BBCs programs to be made. They do an extremely poor job selling those programs globally, perhaps they are focusing their energy wrong, this witch-hunt is an example of that.

      BBC worldwide is far worse than any 'threat vector' for doing a really bad job of selling the content it makes worldwide.

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  8. Re:WTF? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    appy app ludite hot DAMN grits?

  9. Re:WTF? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    shit forgot to add moo cow

  10. British TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one wondering why a British TV series was having production work done in the US?

    1. Re:British TV by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Probably because the rest of us understands how how globalization works.

      Hollywood is a world renown for being a hub for movie and television production. They have a lot of talent concentrated in one spot. Vs the BBC who in general known for cheesy effects and production problems. Just compare Red Dwarf with Start Trek: The Next Generation in terms of production.

       

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    2. Re:British TV by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Informative

      Am I the only one wondering why a British TV series was having production work done in the US?

      A lot of American film has work done in British studios. A lot of British film has work done in American studios. The industry has been internationalized for decades. Americans have been using Pinewood studios since the early days of TV and the British have been taking advantage of expertise in Hollywood- if you pay attention to closing credits; lots of Hollywood blockbusters have European centres involved. It's nothing new.

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    3. Re:British TV by laurencetux · · Score: 1

      a show that has travel to the ends of the universe (both time and space) might possibly has a few scenes on the other side of The Pond??

      for Doctor Who a setting in the US is like having a scene down the street at the local Chemist

    4. Re:British TV by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Really, when Croatia is so hot right now.

      https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5...

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    5. Re: British TV by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Also in the show, some scenes in some episodes might be filmed on location in the US. Like for "The Impossible Astronaut". I think it was in Utah but it certainly wasn't on a soundstage and it on location in the U.K.

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    6. Re:British TV by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      ... if you pay attention to closing credits; lots of Hollywood blockbusters have European centres involved. It's nothing new.

      If anything, it's getting more and more prevalent as Hollywood weaves ever more elaborate tax dodges, and sucks in ever more distant tax subsidies.

      If there's one thing that offends me more than anything about modern copyright, it's the fact that movies are being made with motherfucking government funding and yet somehow all the profits are privately owned in a byzantine corporate tangle that pays neither taxes nor profit-sharing to actors and production workers. THAT chaps my ass.

      I want to forbid government funding of for-profit entertainment works. You take free tax money, your results are public domain, just like NASA or USDA, even if it's not all or even most of your funding. I want a GPL-type virus for government tax money in entertainment, at the very least, and probably a good deal more outside of entertainment. You want to use my money to make a movie, then it's my movie.

    7. Re:British TV by Cederic · · Score: 1

      This is Doctor Who. If it had quality set design and acting it would be a betrayal of a decades old legacy.

  11. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by giggleloop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So it's owned by the conservative government and is simultaneously liberal propaganda? That's.... interesting.

  12. Re:Lesson: Hide the filename of pirated material by giggleloop · · Score: 2

    You mean like "IMG_ l563.TRIM.MOV"?

    There's a difference between pirated footage and stolen production footage. Anyone who tries to leak the latter is just asking for the full weight of law enforcement.

  13. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps you are just old.

    When you are young the tropes and ideas whatever they are are new and novel to you. So they are interesting new ideas no matter how old they are. Then as you get older they become the same old thing over and over again.

    The TV Shows/Movies/Music when you were the ages of 8-18 just isn't as good anymore with a noticeable decline seeming to happen at ages 20-25
    By the time you reach your 50's and 60's such media is considered threatening to your way of life.

    Before the age of 8 or so, your understanding on what is happening in media and arts is rather limited.
    By the age of 8 or so your brain has developed to a point where you can understand abstract concepts and realize the meaning behind the art form. During the next decade you can absorb and comprehend such stories and topic, Until early adulthood. After that these things are becoming repetitive and tiresome.
    Your viewing of such media declines because it reward is lessen, and other responsibility take president. Then as you get near retirement age, your responsibilities decline, and then are exposed to such media again nearly a half a century later you find that the same-old actually had changed and is promoting a life style and culture that you are not comfortable with and take it as a threatening message.

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  14. Re: WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe that is what he/she meant

  15. sounds like they're just going through the motions by v1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would hope that no one would be dumb enough to leak something on a public file sharing platform like dropbox/onedrive/etc without having taken many precautions to insure the account was registered and uploaded to with extreme anonymity. BBC is most likely aware that this is going to be a dead-end, and is just satisfying their legal requirement of "defense of their protected works" so as not to weaken the protections granted to them under copyright. (if you don't use the legal defenses granted to you, even on small things you don't care much about, they tend to be less effective down the road when you really do need to exercise them) This is why companied prefer to license things for $1/yr instead of just "not going after someone whose use they don't care about or mind". If anything, it's publicity, and as long as they don't actually identify and go after any individuals, it'll be mostly beneficial publicity, even if it appears to be negative.

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  16. Re:The Cost? by Shimbo · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, the BBC is asking Microsoft to do a deep-dive search across ALL OneDrive user accounts looking for a single file?

      BS

    No. They want Microsoft to identify who posted the linked file: see the TF article.

  17. Re:Lesson: Hide the filename of pirated material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Zip up IMG_I563.TRIM.MOV into THeseAreNotBoobies.zip, encrypt it into THeseAreNotBoobies.zip.aes and THEN copy it up to the cloud.

  18. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you are just old.

    Does it really matter? Some jokes may get old, some don't. It is just how they are presented, not what they are.

  19. Re:Lesson: Hide the filename of pirated material by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

    Then how do you share it? If I download a video and what actually comes through is a zip or exe, I delete it. (I don't see this problem as much anymore but maybe I am using better indexers.)

  20. I'm Spartacus by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Ok, I admit it, I did it.

  21. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by fish_sauce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Feminism and other political nonsense have also infected the show. I hate when politics infect a show. I groan every time I get slapped in the face with political correctness, feminism, etc. It destroys the show.

  22. Re:sounds like they're just going through the moti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yet another idiot conflates trademark with copyright.

    Don't you morons ever get tired of demonstrating your legal ignorance?

  23. From TFS: OneDriver (sic) by thegreatbob · · Score: 2

    ... you wouldn't download a car, would you? By this point, I'm convinced most of us would.

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    1. Re:From TFS: OneDriver (sic) by houghi · · Score: 1

      Why did it take so long to convince you? In any SF story that has a 'particle multiplier' in a story, not many will have you pay for that service. It will be mostly implied that it is done for free. Be it food, goods or people transport.

      The idea of paying for coppied food is weird in almost all stories.

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    2. Re:From TFS: OneDriver (sic) by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Too fucking right I'd download a car if I could reproduce one as cheaply and accurately as a digital download. Why hand over stupidly large amounts of cash for something with so low a marginal cost of reproduction?

      Of course, offer me a car at a reasonable price without inconvenient restrictions and you'll get a sale. Much like the digital content I buy already..

  24. Re:sounds like they're just going through the moti by XXongo · · Score: 1

    I would hope that no one would be dumb enough to leak something on a public file sharing platform like dropbox/onedrive/etc without having taken many precautions to insure the account was registered and uploaded to with extreme anonymity.

    People screw up all the time. Most particularly, people think that their info in the "cloud" is private all the time when it isn't.

  25. Re:sounds like they're just going through the moti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How dare you insinuate I don't know the law! I will sue you for embezzlement!

  26. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Don't forget nostalgia blinders. The old joke or idea may just trigger an emotion of a happy time for you or a happy time within a painful time.
    If you go to a concert of a long time loved musical band, and you find their take of that popular song you once loved is different. Is now somehow different, you just don't get the same emotional response then from the recording.

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  27. No difference between this and the physical world. by MasseKid · · Score: 3, Informative

    A company has something stolen from it. They traces it to a storage locker, proves to a judge it is in the storage locker, and requests information on the owner so they can purse legal action. This is all this case is. The fact the storage locker is digital and the goods are digital doesn't matter.

  28. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except the original is still there.... The deprivation was not of the physical product, but the exclusivity of the product. Don't equate piracy to theft. They are inherently different.... I thought this was made clear 20 years ago. Stop spreading lies and misinformation.

  29. Re:WTF? by datavirtue · · Score: 1

    ...and I have to browse 0/-1 to find some of the really good, insightful ones. Still nothing near as shitty as Ars or reddit.

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  30. Based on the file name... by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

    a copy of the leaked file, titled "IMG_ l563.TRIM.MOV.

    They should be looking for an Apple user.

  31. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Feminism: the belief that women should be treated equal to men.

    I'm pretty sure you just destroyed his Slashdot.

  32. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by t0rkm3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't have dog in this fight, I listen to the Dr Who stuff when I have time...

    However, I noticed that you constructed a nice straw man there. I wanted to stop by and admire the artistry involved in the simply ignorant and intentional misreading and misrepresentation of an opinion.

    Like poo flung on a wall, it is awesome in it's own destructive simplicity.

    Rather, you might restate the parent's position back to them to assist in the discourse.

    "Did you mean that you feel that women are being shoehorned into a plot where they do not necessarily fit? In fact, it may cause a loss of continuity and flow of the temperament of the show when the protagonist is put in a gender reversed scenario?"

    The scenario as presented above is an argument. It is provable that the BBC wants to provide propagandist support whenever possible to POC and women, it is one of their stated goals. Therefore, the argument is, "Is this good for the art?" or "Does reflect a loss of creativity caused by an echo chamber of political rhetoric?"

    I believe the parent intends to argue that it does impact the art in a negative fashion and causes a loss of authenticity to the brand.

  33. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by fish_in_the_c · · Score: 2

    They are different on some level, but not when you evaluate ( a crime has been committed, There is a normal process for tracking down the perpetrator). It really doesn't make a difference if the crime is copy right violation, theft, murder, speeding or public intoxication, the laws of evidence and proof are much the same. The only real difference is weather it is a capital crime ( aka punishable by the government and jail) or a civil crime ( aka I can sue you for money but you won't go to jail). I'd have to do some more investigation to see if search warrants are issued for civil crimes, i don't think they are, because at least in this country to my understanding they are issued to a public prosecutor and their isn't one in a civil suit.

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  34. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by fish_in_the_c · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure I know the answer, Does someone , if the case is purely civil, like a divorce, can I person get a search warrant for private property? I know they can get a subpoena for bank records, this seems to fall somewhere in between.

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  35. obligatory by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    EX-TER-MIN-ATE!

    Dalek Supreme: They cannot escape! Our [legal team] will soon follow them! They will be exterminated! Exterminated! Exterminated!

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  36. Re: Burros are know leftists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just look at their envolvement with Castro and FARC. Always humping arround ammo or wounded gorillas. Damn burros.

  37. Re: BBC can suck a BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No, modern Feminism is just Chauvinism flipped around. It has nothing to do with equality.

    As for the article, the Dread Pirate should just invoke the Right to be Forgotten, which the UK insists is a Fundamental Human Right.

  38. Femanism, Theory vs Reality by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    Yes, in theory Femanism is about men and women being equal.
    In practice a lot of femanists want to be more equal than men. As in equal in all aspects, except where things scew towards favoring women.
    There is also a rather large group of "Femanists" that want revenge equalism. These feel that since men have had it good for so long, now women should get an advantage in everything over men.

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    1. Re:Femanism, Theory vs Reality by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Yes, in theory Femanism is about men and women being equal.

      In practice a lot of femanists want to be more equal than men. As in equal in all aspects, except where things scew towards favoring women.

      There is also a rather large group of "Femanists" that want revenge equalism. These feel that since men have had it good for so long, now women should get an advantage in everything over men.

      That would be misandry rather than feminism, and I do agree that a number of self-proclaimed feminists are really misandrists; however, Doctor Who has never strayed into misandry even if it is has had feminist themes at times. Doctor Who, that I've seen, has never been more than promoting themes of equality.

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    2. Re:Femanism, Theory vs Reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Donald Trump is a Republican. Misandrists are feminists. Eat your dog food everyone.

  39. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 2

    That's pretty much taking his words and warping them to mean what you want them to. If there's an active feud between the two of you, I'll understand... but hear me out...

    His point is clear. When a popular [insert medium here] (think.. TV show, music, movies) shoves ANY propaganda in your face when it didn't typically use to, people generally aren't very accepting of it. Unless it's Family Guy, of course.

    I never got the impression that he hated women or wanted to see them mistreated/degraded on TV.

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  40. Re: BBC can suck a BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Rather, you might restate the parent's position back to them to assist in the discourse.

    Perhaps you might ask the parent to restate their position instead. Did you think about doing that? Why haven't you considered that the parent's choice of phrasing reflects upon them quite clearly?

  41. Re: You better cut off your penis by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1

    YuriKlastalov BTFO. How will he ever recover?

  42. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    Or it could be the show sucks! Jesus christ candy ass it's absolutely possible that shows from 50 years can be better than show you see today. Just because something is new does not make it better.

    Showed the show to my wife. She was never a fan. Showed her the classic episodes (Pertwee/Baker) and the new episodes with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi. She did not like the new episodes. She much preferred the older ones.

  43. It was obviously The Master by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I mean, how could it NOT be The Master.

    He's had it out for The Doctor for a long time.

    Or should I say, she's had it out for her.

    Um.

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  44. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Why is this modded up? Pretty sure you're trolling here.

    But in case you really didn't get the OP:

    "Feminism" used to mean "equality".

    "Feminism" today tends to refer to "Third Wave Feminism", which is looking less and less interested in equality. For citations, have you not been paying attention for the last 4 or 5 years?

    It's similar to how "Diversity" in the U.S.A. this decade is more and more starting to mean "Fuck White People".

    Summed up, the intent is fine. The execution.....is leaving a lot to be desired.

    No, feminism still means equality. Misandry means hatred of men or promotion of women above men, and I won't disagree... some people are guilty of this. Diversity still means "diversity"; if a company is 100% black, hiring a white person would still be "diversity" in that company. The words still mean the same thing; the thing that has changed the most is some people are resisting the changes now that they are a little closer to realization than they once were.

    I am a white male; I am pro feminism and diversity. I am still against misandry and racism against white people - but those are two completely different things and you can't really accuse the BBC of either of those things.

    I can't speak for everyone, but I imagine a large number of anti "female doctor" are at least a little sexist. Now, if the show starts up and it is bashing men; I will apologise and join in the criticism- until then, nothing wrong has been done hiring a woman.

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  45. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by ole_timer · · Score: 1

    for civil you cannot get a search warrant - but you can get a subpoena and the other side is supposed to produce the data asked for

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  46. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by ole_timer · · Score: 1

    it's not a crime if it's civil - it's an infringement of rights

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  47. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

    "Political Correctness (aka, Political Censorship), is fascism pretending to be Manners."
    -- George Carlin

  48. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by shaitand · · Score: 1

    "Then as you get near retirement age, your responsibilities decline, and then are exposed to such media again nearly a half a century later you find that the same-old actually had changed and is promoting a life style and culture that you are not comfortable with and take it as a threatening message."

    In my mid-30's I can already tell you the slippery slope is real. We compromise one small thing at a time, become comfortable with the change as it becomes the new norm and then the next step feels like a small change from normal. In some ways it is very real and threatening. You look at personal liberties, privacy and their extreme decline. You look at the extreme positions we pretended were true because we agreed with their overall message and realize that society actually believes those things. They really think there are neo-nazi's on every block just waiting to beat them if they are gay or black and women think there are rapists around every corner.

    As a child in a small town in backwater Illinois people thought racism was bad and didn't much care what people did in the privacy of their own bedrooms, my grandparents exposed me to a plethora of programming with this as the heart of it's message showing over and over again the closed minded racist antagonist discriminating against the different. People made jokes and slurs, especially in mixed groups and the same guy they called a jew bastard in jest and in anger they'd literally fight and bleed for the same as their other friends. Today that is a sacred right reserved for comedians and you are told these people are evil racists with hate in their heart on par with Nazi's. What is worse is that when someone with warmth and friendliness in their heart, possibly even a deep grained respect for the historical traditions of native culture calls someone an "injun" and you call them out as evil and attack them telling them they are racist even if they don't know it... well that sort of attack is exactly what WILL lead to thousands of Klan members and neo-nazis.

    In the US you are allowed to openly hate men if they are white just for being white and men who grew up in the same economic conditions with the same education, the same broken home, the same drugs in the streets. You can discriminate against them if equally qualified for employment or education. We hire staff in publicly traded companies dedicated to making sure that too many of them aren't too successful. Why? Because straight white men are the scapegoats, they have no real connection to troubles of the past, nor does the situation of any other group in the present have any connection to those who were troubled int he past but when anything doesn't go your way we can blame them. Currently we are spreading a widescale eugenics effort by telling white women they are racist if they don't sleep with black men and spreading the idea they all have giant penises alongside spreading the idea that being cuckolded by black men is something sexy. Why ship people off to gas chambers when you can deny them education, employment, and encourage widespread social acceptance of breeding them out? Either way, you've got the populace good with hate and you can prop up your dictatorship on it just like hitler and the nazi party.

  49. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

    I love that the AC accuses you of trolling, then pulls like three or four trolls into one post. Very classy. Good luck with these guys; they really believe that white men are totally oppressed by the (((liberals))). They see any attempt to right centuries of racism and sexism as some sort of personal slight against them, just because they have to compete on an almost level playing field.

  50. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by shaitand · · Score: 1

    Feminism is not the belief that women should be treated equal to men. It is a term which defines itself as the movement for gender equality with a carefully chosen name from a group obsessed with words at the time, the name begs the question and equates promoting the interests of women as the same thing as gender equality.

    Of course the movement runs into a bit of trouble in that most women have never wanted to be the browbeating asshole careerman or CEO they think women should be and most of the culture they fight against and propose as the evil "patriarchy" is actually the result of the matriarchy. So now the effort is largely about convincing women to not bond with or raise their children and to encourage brainwashing children to try to turn all our daughters into people who think this sort of lowlife bottom-dweller oppressor is someone to idolize.

    Of course it is very hard to explain how the evil patriarchy didn't lock them all in mental asylums and begin executing them with their portrayal of the extreme situations where husbands were abusive as if they were commonly held and accepted events.

  51. Omf by easyTree · · Score: 1

    The 'pirates rate this worthy of downloading' stamp of approval. Sure.

    Disclaimer: I haven't watched TV for over ten years.

  52. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by easyTree · · Score: 1

    I'm sure our secret leaders have our best interests at heart =)

  53. Re: BBC can suck a BBC by easyTree · · Score: 1

    As we know, fundamental human rights are opt-in via longwinded legal process. Probably not what <deity> had in mind.

  54. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Balderdash.

    Then as you get older they become the same old thing over and over again.

    By the time you reach your 50's and 60's such media is considered threatening to your way of life.

    Pick one. Either it's always been the same old shit or it's new and scary and threatening to your old way of life.

  55. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by sexconker · · Score: 2

    Feminism and other political nonsense have also infected the show. I hate when politics infect a show. I groan every time I get slapped in the face with political correctness, feminism, etc. It destroys the show.

    Feminism: the belief that women should be treated equal to men.

    So you're saying if a woman is treated equal to a man on a show it destroys the show? A show is only worth watching if women are treated like crap? OK... whatever floats your boat.

    Feminism half a century ago was like that. "Feminism" today is a farce. It's so bad they had to retcon the whole thing and label feminism as "First Wave" feminism. Feminists of that era widely criticize and deride modern "Third Wave" "feminism" because it's lost the plot so badly. (With social media and the craziness it fuels, are we now in "Fourth Wave" "feminism"?)

  56. Re:The Cost? by 1ucius · · Score: 1

    The DMCA has a number of provisions.

    And this one is just a matter of basic fairness. If you want the content owner to sue the real pirate (vs the ISP), then you need to them who that is.

  57. Re:sounds like they're just going through the moti by 1ucius · · Score: 1

    IDK. It might affect your ability to get an injunction in future cases. And, eventually, you'll end up with an adverse possession problem (it's not limited to real property).

  58. Re:No difference between this and the physical wor by StormReaver · · Score: 1

    The only real difference is weather it is a capital crime ( aka punishable by the government and jail) or a civil crime ( aka I can sue you for money but you won't go to jail).

    By "capital," you actually mean, "criminal." In the U.S., "capital" crimes are those that are punishable by death.

    There is no such thing as a, "civil crime" in the U.S. All crimes are criminal, and most, and perhaps all, monetary-only disputes are civil.

  59. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by fish_sauce · · Score: 1

    Thank you. You understand it correctly. Slashdot need more people like you. Hugs~

  60. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by Snufu · · Score: 1

    Your characterization is accurate that popular tropes in film, TV, and literature lose novelty and impact as one matures. Experience results in familiarity which results in decreasing interest. This is true across generations.

    However, what has changed over the past few generations is increased emphasis on younger and younger audiences. There was a time not long ago when a significant fraction of commercial film, TV, and literature was aimed at adults. This is a genuine cultural shift, and not just old people saying "that's been done before." Today, more producers pitch "reboots" or unabashed remakes with the explicit strategy that it can be sold as an original experience to children and teenagers.

    The end result is artistic stagnation.

  61. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by shaitand · · Score: 1

    Ancient alien lizard people leaders without a doubt. I'm pretty sure I saw them on doctor who so they must be real.

    Do you know what happens if you embrace rather than argue with those who say "All lives matter" in response to the "black lives matter" issue? Suddenly your message resonates rather than alienates the majority of people in this country and you have an unstoppable united front on the issue of police militarizing and killing civilians without consequence. Solving that issue for "all lives" also solves it for those who happen to have a bit more resistance to a sun burn. Instead our leaders want to stir it up, make the issue about an emotional issue of race and keep people divided while they continue to militarize our police and drive us slowly toward more and more of a police state.

  62. Could irony get in the way? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    It would be so fitting if the US can't disclose who did it because of European privacy laws.
    Fox sends them a wav file. It's Nelson from the Simpsons saying - Ha Ha.

  63. Re:BBC can suck a BBC by t0rkm3 · · Score: 1

    Fair statement. Perhaps, for the enlightenment of the original poster you could provide some points that reveal how you believe the woman in the role adds to the storyline.

    - Not breaking the lore, +1
    - Excellent actor/actress making the show more watchable, +1.