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Google Made New Search Tools To Help Veterans Find Better Jobs (cnbc.com)
Google has rolled out a series of search tools to help military veterans find better jobs after returning to civilian life, the company said in a blog post. From a report: Former members of the military can now search "jobs for veterans," enter the military branch they served in and see results for job openings that match their skills. Google will also allow businesses to identify as "veteran-owned" or "veteran-led" in Google Maps and mobile search results. "We hope to use our technology to help veterans understand the full range of opportunities open to them across many different fields. Right now those opportunities are getting lost in translation," Matthew Hudson, a program manager for Google Cloud and an Air Force veteran, said in Monday's blog post.
Why does the A and C schools don't count as college?
It's about time. I fought in the 103rd Deskborne Division ("The Fighting Snowflakes) in the War on Christmas. Don't laugh, I was wounded twice and I'm still not quite the same. I am allowed a service gerbil, but it's still hard for me to find work. But I'm one of the lucky ones. I still have nightmares where I think I'm back at the Battle of the Macy's Parade. Lost lots of good people and at least two very large balloons that day.
Thanks to Google for looking out for us.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It does things like rule that a qualified Navy Corpsmen (their equivalent of a combat medic) is NOT qualified to be an EMT after they leave the army. (Army and Airforce medics are qualified to be an EMT).
US military needs to think just a bit more about what their men can do after they leave the armed forces. A bit more planning, a few more courses (even if it simply covers civilian work) can mean a huge difference for our soldiers when they have completed their service.
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Because they do not comprise four years of education? The federal service academies count as college, the rest is just vocational training.
Probably because they don't offer grammar...
I was in a different branch maybe, but I assume you are referring to the vocational training one receives after basic training?
They are meant to get you deployed as soon as possible with no chance of becoming an expert, so I don't know if they would even count as vocational.
I tell you what sucks is that you can't use GI bill while in to do any kind of online class, you get some free colleges that are just complete bullshit (Excelsior?).
I was lucky enough to already have been a computer nerd when I joined the Army and was assigned (did not get to choose) as a "Signal Systems Support Specialist" where I extended radio networks on top of hills. I was also able to see what kind of bullshit-people they let in to do some of the work I would have rather done, complete fucking idiots who have no business in the business. I fucking pwned the shit out of them, and I hated life. People who say they love the military, really mean they can't get a job anywhere else; just a bunch of retards.
The problem with employment is there isn't a really good mapping of Years of Education vs Years of experience vs Military experience and rank. And to get this mapping out to most businesses who are hiring.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Actually, the USAF has the Community College of The Air Force, where that training does count (we just called it "Tech School"), depending on your AFSC ("MOS" in Army-speak) and what degree you were shooting for. OJT and CBTs (as well as PME/NCO training) also count as credits (again, depending on AFSC and degree). On top of all that, CLEP testing is (well, was) mega-cheap there.
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Yes, "A" School in the Army is what we simply called "Tech School" in the USAF. It's usually vocational training to get your initial competency level ("3 level" in the USAF), but it can also serve to teach those who are cross-training into another field, or who go back and get higher-level courses for senior-level positions (for instance, a Senior NCO might go take courses in management, a soon-to-be senior officer might take courses in higher-level/strategic combat, etc.)
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Not necessarily - Senior NCOs and senior-level officers often go back and take required higher-level management and strategy training.
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Sure, but in that case they either obtain a Master's from one of the DoD postgraduate institutions or receive further on-the-job training that does not add up to a college education, just like similar internal on-the-job training in the private sector does not constitute a college education.
Many of them do, but they need to be accepted by the institution just like any other transfer credit. Sailors have a "Joint Services transcript" (formerly called "SMART" because acronyms) that serves as their list of completed service/technical schools. It also offers a recommendation for lower-division credits based on the course. Since this is a partnership between DOD and the Department of Labor, I can only assume that the other lesser services have something similar if not identical.
does the FAA count any military stuff?
Nice to see a hand up like this.
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From the first paragraph of the article you posted:
Three of the most common barriers for potential recruits are failure to graduate high school, a
criminal record, and physical fitness issues, including obesity.
You don't need special treatment to A) stay in school, B) not commit felonies, and C) exercise.
Those limitations exist for a reason; were I enlisted I sure as hell wouldn't trust an obese meth-head with a 9th grade education with a machine gun, let alone ordnance.
If 75% of Americans between 17-24 are ineligible for being too fat, too stupid, or too criminal, that's the fault of 75% of parents, not the military.
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They do translate to some credits. Most degrees have a bunch of core credits in general education. These schools are career specific and do not include cross-cultural classes or world history.
"No results found for your MOS code 98G"
That's been my experience too.
I can translate things, and did it as a job, and can and have demonstrated my skills.
I don't need any fingers to count the number of people so far that have been willing to pay me based on that skill.
Inheritance is the sincerest form of nepotism.
As a veteran I prefer to hire vets. Especially former navy vets with 3+ years and an honorable discharge. The skills do not directly relate. But I know they are trainable, the are capable of critical thinking, they are resourceful, and they habe thick skin.
Hiring non-vet millennials is like running a freaking daycare with all the whining and tattling.
I am all for helping veterans but what about trying to help all people who are unemployed. I am 41, disabled, and have been looking for work for a while now but I haven't been able to find something that I am able to do. A lot of the lower skilled jobs have heavy lifting requirements or other things that I just cannot do right now. Well, what do I know?
I would agree on most of what you posted except for activity level. Public schools fight me up and doen when i show up at the board meetings and insist they at least return kids to the activity levels in school we had in the 80s. My daughter is in hoghschool. The most PE she will have by the time she graduates as a senior is 1 9wk class in 7th grade, and a 6mos, every-other-day gyme class in 10th grade.
In the 80s you get gym twice a week for grades 1-6. In 7th and 8th grade PE and Health shared the same block. One group had Mon-Wed-Fri, the other Tues-Thurs. this repeated again in the 10th grade. There were even electives that were more active than just sitting at a desk.
Now my daughter comes home from school and I _try_ to get her active, but shes already mentslly shot and has another 4+ hours of homework every night. We just run out of time. Archery is about as close as I get her, she meets every morning 1hr before class starts.
So the obesity problem is definitely a big concern for recruitment.
I don't like hiring veterans. My experience is that they spend far too much time creating drama by complaining about the millennials. They would be so much more productive if they took their effort to complain about millennials and directed it toward getting the job done. Millennials are generally my most productive employees because they do the job and don't create drama like veterans do.
Different branches experience different things. The navy is more apt to put you in the career you pick. Most lifers in the navy liked going to sea because they got to be away from their wife and kids. I always thought that was a fucked up thing to want to do; but they probably sucked as a dad anyway, so the kid probsbly was better off; despite how much it also sucked for him.
You don't need special treatment to exercise.
You sort of do if an extremely powerful and under-regulated industry has convinced your parents to feed you copious quantities of sugar, hence giving you obesity well before you have been given the necessary information to make informed diet choices. If the couch potatoes responsible for putting you on the syrup teat have also failed to convey the importance of exercise to you for years, you must be truly exceptional to improve your diet, start exercising, and overcome obesity without any help whatsoever.
When I signed up, it was still during the cold war. The berlin wall didnt fall until later, and russia was still the u.s.s.r. In 1992 we went to the gulf for desert shield, then desert storm, then southern watch.
I assure you I did not volunteer to âget my ass shot offâ(TM). I did helo onto a frigate that struck a mine in order to assist in damage control. The ship was taking on water and sinking. That can be alarming. Ive also done dmage control during a couple shipboard fires. Those are no joke either. But as Gen Patton(George C Scott) is quoted as saying âoeno son of a bitch ever won a war dyjng for his country. He won a war by making the other, dumb, son of a bitch, did for HIS countryâ
The vast majority of people in the military right now have about as much of a risk of being sent to the frontlines with a rifle as you or me and it will be even less of a chance as time goes on. Stop watching Full Metal Jacket, in modern war the vast majority of the military is what would have been called the baggage train or campfollowers in the past. The military is now first and foremost a bureaucratic institution. Why else do you think they can now afford to focus on diversity and recruiting young teeny boppers? Your 95lb blonde niece Susie probably isn't spending her enlistment slogging through the swamps of 'Nam opening up with dual LMGs on the Vietcong. The actual fighting will more and more be the reserve of robots and a shrinking elite core of combat soldiers supported by an ever growing support complex.
What's so special about veterans — from the technological point of view — that a separate platform is warranted just for them?
Seems like a pure PR-move. Now, when asked about being so partisan in their search-results, Google's PR-people (both paid and otherwise) can smugly switch topic to their "helping veterans".
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If you put in a MOS, such as 74B, you get a lot of non-technical jobs, like Operations Manager. Basically, it just points you to companies that are "veteran friendly". Don't rely on Google.
Well said about dictators being kept in power.
But what about the people who saw their military as their only route out of poverty at age 17 or 18? I know quite a few vets who are neither selfish or stupid and took that route.
Blame the US system, which doesn't offer some people many routes out of poverty OTHER THAN military service. In many states, public education is being gutted, the public university systems are turning expensive and mediocre. What's left?
Frankly, I'd support an alternative means of national service after high school that would act like the military in paying for education, etc, but not require the whole "propping up brutal dictators and supporting killers" aspect. But unfortunately, the US is what it is...
You mean, "get their ass shot off defending ARAMCO, EXXON, and Goldman Sucks." If you think that most of what the US military does involves defending the average American, you're shockingly naive. Yes, I get it. The US needs energy. It would have been cheaper and cleaner to convert the US to nuclear-generated electric infrastructure (like the French Messmer Plan), electrify the railroads, require electric cars, than to keep worrying about oil prices worldwide.
The vast majority of veterans these days see no combat and are generally in less danger than many civilian jobs.
The difference between these "no combat" veterans and many civilian jobs is, unlike the civilian jobs, these guys signed a blank check to the American people for up to and including their lives at a moment's notice.
When you sign up to be an arctic fisherman, oil rig worker, or secretary, you know what your job's going to like fairly indefinately. When you sign up to "sit in Germany filing paperwork for 5 years", you occasionally get told to pack your shit, leave your family behind, and go wander the desert with a rifle.
If you don't like what your boss asks you to do as an arctic fisherman, oil rig worker, or secretary: you can refuse, and generally the worst that can happen is you get fired. If you refuse or try to quit from a military commitment, you can go to jail, have your pay garnished, and so on...
That's why they get more respect than fishermen and secretaries: they volunteered to sacrifice something we all hold near and dear for our benefit.
Show me on the 1st Amendment bobblehead where the moderator touched you...
George Soros is a world hero (IMHO) -- he's one of the few rich people willing to put his money where his mouth is and use it to fight against authoritarianism and blind nationalism. As a child under the Nazis, he learned the consequences of both on his own skin, and he doesn't want anyone else to suffer as much as him or his family.
If you had read the report a bit closer, you would have read the comment that, even if the potential recruit were to lose the weight, there were typically underlying medical conditions that would have rendered them ineligible.
A quick family poll: Me, entrance medicaled out when it was noticed that my feet were slightly different sized during book issue. My brother-in law, slight colour vision, but not enough to make him ineligible for the same job category (pc tech) that we was trying to MOS. Daughter, in MEPS they noticed a small uterine cyst, even they noted that it wouldn't have any impact unless she were to attempt to carry a child to term. Other daughter, went in, served as an MP and left.
That was 1 in 4.
Really, when we say that 3/4 of the population is "undeserving" we need to be looking at the standard. There needs to be a path to service. I seriously looked in to see if I got a law degree, if I would be able to get in as an attorney. The answer was a clear "No." Even though, at the time, there was a real shortage of attorneys in the service, there was no path to anyone with anything except perfect condition. There needs to be a path to service.
When I think about people I genuinely respect in this world, I think of a group of my dad's friends who were active in the local peace movement. And there was one old guy who had been in the Korean War who was a major figure in the local Veterans for Peace organization.
And one time when I was having lunch with them I was like "How could anyone not know what they're signing up for when they join the military?" And the old veteran turned very red in the face but didn't say anything. Of course, in retrospect, I either wouldn't have asked the question at all - or would have at least asked it much in a much more gentle way. Who knows what guilt he still carried for what he had done in the Korean War?
It's interesting that we can make a video recording of the past but not of the future. But, in a certain sense, there is only one past while there are infinitely many futures. Of course, if anyone who could see all possible futures wouldn't be trapped in poverty. If nothing else, they could simply go buy the next winning lottery ticket. :)
So a big part of being trapped in poverty is actually being trapped in ignorance. Incidentally, I am much more scared of my own ignorance than I am of terrorists or any of the other usual things people are scared of. So if a veteran was like "Yeah, in retrospect, I see that I actually had a lot of options but, as a teenager the only path I could see clear of desperate poverty was to join the military.", I wouldn't necessarily hold their time in the military against them.
But, wow, if someone is unreservedly proud of having done time in the military. Or if they think that doing time in the military automatically makes someone a better person. Then that's definitely someone I wouldn't want to work with.
Have you not stopped to think the problem could be you, you could be an authoritarian freak that well does not really know or understand how to manage people. Don't think the military trains people how to manage people, it uses extreme force of law and violence to force obedience. So for you, asking people to politely do something and thanking them for it, when you pay them, probably seems a very uncomfortable stretch far more used to ordering them and demanding obedience. Have you got, just perhaps, too many fuck yous and threats of harassment claims.
I would lean away from the military, preferring team players and people seeking mutual reward and benefit, self motivated people who do not have to be directed at every turn. People who use good manners well and maintain an egalitarian attitude, to create a pleasant comfortable for everyone work place as we all struggle through life.
I was in the military, people ordering me about in civilian life, well, it tended to generate hostility and they had to mind their manners, else the outcomes would not be conducive to productivity or profitability.
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What about other non-vets like people with disabilities (not from military)? :(
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"Our benefit"? I must have missed those benefits. Can you clue me in? It sounds like it is somewhere in the desert and they are wandering around looking for it.
If 75% of your population are dumb, fat and criminal, I dare say it's very much a social problem not an individual one anymore.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Old Joke:
"Police is looking for a psycho killer."
"Hmm... how much are they paying?"
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Please. I work a farm. It's a much more dangerous job than being a soldier. "I signed up to risk life and limb to provide you with the food you eat". You see how that sounds? You're a tool for neocons and globalist "liberals". I wouldn't do too much chest thumping. Thanks for securing the petro dollar.
In an effort to kill time with Google while clarifying the parent:
USAF = United States Air Force (I knew this one with no Google!)
MOS = Military Occupational Specialty
OJT = On-the-Job Training
CBT = Computer-based Training (Google disagrees though, suggesting Cognitive behavioral therapy so Your Mileage May Vary: YMMV)
PME/NCO = Professional Military Education (PME) / Non-Commissioned Officers
CLEP = College Level Examination Program
mega-cheap = affordable
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
AFSC = Air Force Specialty Code
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.