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Twitter Says Trump Not Immune From Getting Kicked Off (politico.com)

Twitter legal and policy chief Vijaya Gadde told Politico in an interview that President Donald Trump isn't immune from being kicked off the platform if his tweets cross a line with abusive behavior. "The social media company's rules against vitriolic tweets offer leeway for world leaders whose statements are newsworthy, but that 'is not a blanket exception for the president or anyone else,'" reports Politico. From the report: Trump regularly uses Twitter to heap abuse on his perceived enemies and at times raise the specter of violence, such as when he tweeted last year that if North Korean leaders continued with their rhetoric at the time, "they won't be around much longer!" Critics say the tweets violate Twitter's terms of service and warrant punitive action. Dorsey, who's due to testify before two congressional committees Wednesday about his company's content practices, said he receives notifications on his phone for Trump's Twitter account. But asked if he would weigh in personally to remove Trump from the platform, he declined to get into specifics.

"We have to balance it with the context that it's in," he said. "So my role is to ask questions and make sure we're being impartial, and we're upholding consistently our terms of service, including public interest." Amid controversy over Trump's tweeting back in January, Twitter posted to its corporate blog an unsigned explanation of its thinking around "world leaders" -- without calling out Trump by name. It said blocking such leaders or removing their tweets "would hide important information people should be able to see and debate." Dorsey tweeted the policy, saying "we want to share our stance."

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  1. Double Standard by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How does Elon Musk not get kicked off for calling a guy a pedophile and a "child rapist"? What is the standard? Why isn't it being enforced?

    1. Re:Double Standard by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      to convince rubes that voting against their own interest was a good idea.

      Perhaps they think that is better than voting for people that despise their culture and call them "rubes".

    2. Re:Double Standard by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There was a recent hilarious case of twitter user bluecheckwatch who literally went through verified twitter users with far left views, and just post screenshots of their open hate speech, twitter took swift action...

      By banning the user bluecheckwatch. All the racist, sexist hatred user posted evidence of is obviously still allowed, because it's targeting the correct untermensch, in the name of correct ubermensch. In modern progressive lingvo, we call it "fair and balanced".

    3. Re:Double Standard by sg_oneill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [blockquote]Musk called a guy a pedo (child), not a pedophile (child lover). [/quote]

      Literally nobody speaks this way. It certainly wouldn't fly in a courtroom (The test is usually "What inference would a reasonable person make?") and when you rules lawyer everyday speech in real life, you just sound like one of those confused people that thinks playing dumb on word meanings somehow makes them..... clever. Hint: It doesn't.

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    4. Re:Double Standard by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Twitter is the land of double standards. If you're "in with the group" there's no problem at all. Note how very few blue checkmarked jackasses that spew racism or bigotry get any type of warning or punishment. People who point this out? Banned. Your local antifa group advocating for violence, or people supporting and calling for violence under the banner? Not banned. Group of guys making in-jokes and posing memes? Banned.

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    5. Re:Double Standard by Crashmarik · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wow not even a link. Lets look at how major news organizations report the news about the president

      https://nypost.com/2018/08/29/...

      Last Thursday, we asked how long it would take before Lanny Davis again changed his story about what his client, Michael Cohen, knows about President Trump. It turned out to be four days.

      Meanwhile, CNN is standing by a story that relied in part on claims that Davis now says he never should’ve made.

      It all started with last month’s bombshell CNN report that Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney, was claiming his then-boss knew in advance of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign officials and a Russian operative.

      The CNN story said outright that Davis had declined comment, implying that he wasn’t a source — even though Davis now says he was, and CNN admits it. That same night, Davis confirmed the story anonymously to this newspaper and to The Washington Post.

      So are you merely a rube ? Or do you enjoy having a hand stuck up your ass

    6. Re:Double Standard by walterbyrd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Twitter has kicked off a lot of moderate conservatives, while allowing racist hate, and threats, and offers to murder, from leftists.

  2. They'd be crazy if they booted him off though! by sd4f · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After all, twitter was having plenty of problems, Trump being on the platform probably brings them more users and ad revenue than anyone else.

  3. Re:So I guess Twitter is more powerful than the Fe by markdavis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >"Ultimately I don't know what that court case would look like, but I bet it will turbo charge the argument that social media needs to be regulated like a public unity or a common carrier."

    Indeed it would. These social media platforms seem to want to control their content and yet at the same time being insulated from liability/responsibility for that manipulation. It can't really work both ways at the same time. Having their own USERS regulate and moderate and control the content is one thing (and not the "thing" they are doing). But, otherwise, they are not acting like a common carrier by censoring, ranking, labeling, and skewing things the way they like.

  4. One is a felony, the other is a policy by raymorris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When the US government threatens actions against a belligerent country, that's a political policy. Agree or disagree, we all have the freedom to discuss the policy done in our name.

    When a private individual threatens serious violence, that's a felony.

  5. Twitter's business model by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without the outrage, retweets, and ad impressions Trump generates among the social justice crowd on Twitter, Twitter would go out of business. Making people angry is Twitter's business model. And Trump is a big part of that. So, the reason why Twitter hasn't kicked off Trump yet is simple: money.

  6. So what? by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who says they need a "policy" to do anything? They're a public, for-profit corporation. They can decide whatever they want in terms of who they're going to publish, and who they won't. They don't need to create a list of rules and follow them. They make the rules. There's no expectation that it's some kind of "public square", except for idiots. They're a data gathering and marketing company. People who are calling it a "public square" need to get their heads out of their asses and go talk to some real people in the real world.

    You're not a "customer" of the company. You're voluntarily giving up all of your "content". They owe you *nothing*.

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  7. Re:Yeah he is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The problem is not Trump per se, it's the the voters that put him there.

    I used to be a Democrat. I didn't put Trump in the White House, but the way things going, I'll vote for him in 2020.

    Trump supporters know exactly what kind of disgusting piece of shit he is.

    Not as much of a disgusting piece of shit as the leading Democrats, like Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker, Chuck Schumer.

    Trump supporters are the reason why the founding fathers were originally so opposed to democracy.

    In fact, the ideology of the Democrats is why the Founding Fathers were originally opposed to democracy and wanted to limit federal power. And it is not surprising that Democrats want unlimited federal power.

  8. Re:Well Trump's inciting violence by ilguido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Trump cannot block people on Twitter because that violates the first amendment, then I don't think that Twitter can block Trump either for the same reason. Double standards are bad for a democracy.

  9. Re:So, if you can't you get booted, but if you can by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm from Finland. Every single media outlet reprints the spin from everything other than Fox when it comes to Trump. Every time I go to double check from the source and then compare to what actually was said/happened, I find that story printed is either a complete fabrication, a partial lie or a spin on facts. I'm yet to actually see a Trump related story that wouldn't be one of the three, which is frankly quite frightening as it tells about a massive bias in the media.

    This is in everything from all major private networks to the state broadcaster. Latter has been a bit of a shock to me, because they used to do a lot of their own investigating before they put anything into news articles or analyses, which usually stripped a lot of bias from stories they would get from AP and such. Now it's translation slack-journalism with zero fact checking (if I'm generous, and just reprinting lies knowingly, which would be assuming systemic malice), as long as it's negative about Trump.

    Take it for what you will.

  10. Re:Already crossed that line by Cyberax · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sure. And banning Trump from Twitter would be an exercise of free speech by Twitter.

    Why are you against free speech? Are you a COMMUNIST? Why do you hate America?

  11. Re:Well Trump's inciting violence by thewolfkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Trump cannot block people on Twitter because that violates the first amendment, then I don't think that Twitter can block Trump either for the same reason. Double standards are bad for a democracy.

    in no way does that work backwards. Trump can't block people because of who he is as a government official. If he starts gramming he can't block people either. if he has email he can't block people. It's not a function of the social media. It's a function of the presidency. The same way we as a people are allowed to block politicians, social media can ban them.

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