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Safari's 'Siri Suggested' Search Results Highlighted Conspiracy Theories, Fake News (buzzfeednews.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BuzzFeed News: Apple's Safari, one of the internet's most popular web browsers, has been surfacing debunked conspiracies, shock videos, and false information via its "Siri Suggested Websites" feature. Such results raise questions about the company's ability to monitor for low-quality information, and provide another example of the problems platforms run into when relying on algorithms to police the internet. As of yesterday, if you typed "Pizzagate" into Apple's Safari, the browser's "Siri Suggested Website" prominently offered users a link to a YouTube video with the title "PIZZAGATE, BIGGEST SCANDAL EVER!!!" by conspiracy theorist David Seaman (the video doesn't play, since Seaman's channel was taken down for violating YouTube's terms of service). The search results appeared on multiple versions of Safari. Apple removed all examples of the questionable Siri Suggested sites provided to it by BuzzFeed News.

[W]hen BuzzFeed News entered incomplete search terms that might suggest contentious or conspiratorial topics (as shown below), the search algorithms directed us toward low-quality websites, message boards, or YouTube conspiracy videos rather than reliable information or debunks about those topics. Meanwhile, Google does not feature such unreliable pages in its top search results. Those suggested results matter since Safari is one of the internet's most popular web browsers -- some estimates suggest it has captured over 10% of the browser market share.
The poor suggestions may be a result of a "data void," which is "what happens when a term doesn't have 'natural informative results' and manipulators seize upon it," reports BuzzFeed. "Many of the sites surfaced by the Siri Suggested feature came from conspiracy or junk sites hastily assembled to fill that void."

In a statement, Apple said: "Siri Suggested Websites come from content on the web and we provide curation to help avoid inappropriate sites. We also remove any inappropriate suggestions whenever we become aware of them, as we have with these. We will continue to work to provide high-quality results and users can email results they feel are inappropriate to applebot@apple.com."

120 comments

  1. not really.... by DigiAngel69 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    3.38% of browser market share doesn't seem like "one of the internet's most popular web browser"...

    1. Re:not really.... by lactose99 · · Score: 4, Informative

      3.38% wouldn't seem to cover the large volume of iPhones currently active, which also run Safari. http://gs.statcounter.com/brow... lists it as #2 with ~15% share.

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    2. Re:not really.... by arbiter1 · · Score: 0

      maybe cause Apple forces its users to use safari by default and won't let any other browser be set to default on iphones, wouldn't shock me if they do the same in their desktop OS as well.

    3. Re:not really.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Not much point reading the rest of the story when it starts off with a blatant lie.
      I can deduce since siri is mentioned the results are sub-par and apple somehow says that its great.

    4. Re: not really.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enjoy the new iMac Pro then...

    5. Re:not really.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're asking the questions (to Siri) wrong...

      CAP === 'smacking'

    6. Re:not really.... by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Also, even if you do install Chrome, Firefox, etc., you're still stuck using Safari's Webkit rendering engine.

    7. Re:not really.... by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      maybe cause Apple forces its users to use safari by default and won't let any other browser be set to default on iphones, wouldn't shock me if they do the same in their desktop OS as well.

      Bullshit. It "forces" browsers on iOS to use WebKit as their engine. They still show up as not-Safari at the various browser-share stats.

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  2. And this is a surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really?
    Apple provides crap via Siri?
    Really?

    And this is a surprise?

    Good Lord - Dead Steve's vision has been fully achieved. Reality distortion field is in full effect these days.

  3. lol buzzfeed news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David Seaman is 100% more credible than buzzfeed news, and he's an out and out cryptocoin conman.

    1. Re:lol buzzfeed news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are all the screenshots on Buzzfeed blurry and just barely readable? What sort of retarded fuckery is that?

    2. Re:lol buzzfeed news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are all the screenshots on Buzzfeed blurry and just barely readable?

      It's done to minimize possible international copyright liability. Under Kyrgyzstanian fair-use provisions, for example, you are allowed unreadable copies of protected works.

    3. Re:lol buzzfeed news by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      I was coming to say basically the same thing about buzzfeed. When they arent manufacturing their own fake news, they are copying others.

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    4. Re:lol buzzfeed news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also here for the same reason.

      Who reads buzzfeed? Alex Jones and his CIA-family members?

  4. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    You ask for trash topics and it delivers. All this nonsense of fake news is about using people who are to stupid to tell facts from fictions to usher in a fascist nanny state.

    1. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      people who are to stupid to tell facts from fictions

      Which, I'd guess, would be about 67% of the human population. The interesting point is that the heuristics being employed by most of the content suggestors are also too stupid to tell facts from fiction.

      ... to usher in a fascist nanny state.

      And look! Even you were unable to resist collapsing back into some convenient, if improbable, conspiracy theory. It's just possible, you know, that the algorithms basically suck at sorting the chaff out and that serious people are genuinely concerned the kind of crap that they foist upon us. Maybe the very thing which attracts humans to conspiracy theories and lies also attracts automated news aggregators? BTW, in choosing your nanny state, allow me to suggest North-Western European Social Democracy, those fascist "nanny states" were far too strict (well unless you go in for the strict "nanny" thing of course).

  5. Golden showers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Takes you to CNN for a large dose of Fake News.

  6. I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why it's Apple's job or any other company's job to monitor links to content outside their control?

    Let ***ME*** decide if the links are valuable or not.

    1. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why it's Apple's job or any other company's job to monitor links to content outside their control?

      It isn't. This is about links they provide. The content may not be, but the suggestions are perfectly within their control. They are not being asked to change the content, only to change their suggestions.

    2. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why it's Apple's job or any other company's job to monitor links to content outside their control?

      Let ***ME*** decide if the links are valuable or not.

      What do you mean outside their control, it’s their software offering their suggestions using their algorithms. Inventing words is some low SEO marketing sleaze, and pizzagate is not a thing, it’s a campaign.

    3. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you're saying defective by design basically.
      Search engine tech is'nt a new thing anymore. Suggestions == search results.

    4. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why suddenly object when someone points out that some suggestions are bullshit? The suggestions were produced by algorithms all along. Is there any reason, when such an algorithm changes, to object to the new version and trust the old version? They're made by the same people.

      If you don't want those algorithms to assess how valuable those links are then you don't want to get suggestions at all.

    5. Re:I don't understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Because they are not just providing those links, they are offering them up as suggested answers.

      Not just in Safari either, if you ask Siri something it will generally get the suggested web result and read it to you.

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    6. Re:I don't understand by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Why it's Apple's job or any other company's job to monitor links to content outside their control?

      Let ***ME*** decide if the links are valuable or not.

      It is there responsibility to monitor the content of the links they're suggesting to people.

      Its also in their best interest as bad experiences lead to customers leaving.

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    7. Re:I don't understand by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Because they are not just providing those links, they are offering them up as suggested answers.

      And how is showing a link to the original article NOT answering a question about what Pizzagate was? Someone asked for that information, and Apple thinks they need to sanitize the answer to be only the the "correct" one.

      If I ask for the pizzagate story, give me a link to the pizzagate story, not other people's interpretations and spins on it.

      Fun fact: someone who claimed to be one of the inventors of Siri was on Penn and Teller's Fool Us, doing an absolutely lame, well known card trick. P&T fell all over themselves thanking him for his "benefit to humanity", not just us in the US, but the entire world. Thankfully they cut him no slack over the card trick.

    8. Re:I don't understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The original link doesn't explain what pizzagate is. It gives you a conspiracy theory as if it was fact.

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    9. Re:I don't understand by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      The original link doesn't explain what pizzagate is.

      The original link IS pizzagate. Isn't it the best source to determine what the pizzagate conspiracy actually is, instead of being shown only everyone else's interpretation and spin on it?

      It gives you a conspiracy theory as if it was fact.

      No, it does not. It does not say "this material at the end of this link is a fact". It simply provided the link to the original material. AND it provided links to everyone else explaining why it wasn't true.

      So, answer the question. If I ask for the pizzagate conspiracy message, why should it NOT show me a link to that message? Because YOU think I'm too stupid to understand that is it false, or that I'll suddenly agree that it's true because I am overwhelmed by the effective and persuasive communications skill of the author?

      Please. Step up to the clue machine and take the next number. You will be served in the order you arrived.

    10. Re:I don't understand by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      The original link doesn't explain what pizzagate is.

      The original link IS pizzagate. Isn't it the best source to determine what the pizzagate conspiracy actually is, instead of being shown only everyone else's interpretation and spin on it?

      Wrong. The "real" Pizzagate (or at least the name) came from 4chan, the link Siri suggested was to a YouTube video - and thus is just "somebody else's interpretation and spin on it".

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    11. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you're saying defective by design basically.

      Not defective by design, but that the design is defective. I don't think that Apple (or Google for that matter) positively intend to return low quality to outright deceptive results.

      Search engine tech is'nt a new thing anymore.

      Which is perhaps why the expectation has be raised that they should by now be performing somewhat better.

  7. What's wrong with that? by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I type "Pizzagate" it's because I want to find information about that topic (both against and for the conspiracy).
      Logically Safari (and Bing and Google) should show me what's available, rather than make it invisible.

    I want to see ALL the possible websites, not just the ones Apple of Microsoft or Google thinks is "safe" for my consumption.

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    1. Re:What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      https://imgur.com/gallery/7YVR8

    2. Re:What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to see ALL the possible websites

      Good luck finding Syrian government channels on Youtube.

    3. Re:What's wrong with that? by mea_culpa · · Score: 1

      Welcome to current_year my friend. You have been reported to the thought police for wrong think.

    4. Re:What's wrong with that? by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      LOL! It's the new McCarthyism, and ironically it was brought by the people in Northern California and Hollywood (who had been victims of McCarthy's blacklisting).

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    5. Re:What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I type "Pizzagate" it's because I want to find information about that topic (both against and for the conspiracy).

      I agree, BUT, there's still a problem.

      If Apple, Google, whatever, is going to show me a list of search results, something is going be first on the list, something is going to be second, and so on......

      Garbage and "fake news" often make up most of the first page (or several pages) of search results for certain search terms, and to a lot of people it implies that those results are more important or relevant. Technically, they are giving you all the information, but the legitimate information is buried.

      And I think *THAT* is the real complaint that most people have.

    6. Re:What's wrong with that? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      I want to see ALL the possible websites, not just the ones Apple of Microsoft or Google thinks is "safe" for my consumption.

      Then you should start your own search engine, not just use the one Apple, Microsoft or Google provides for you.

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    7. Re:What's wrong with that? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If you want to learn about pizzagate then maybe start at Wikipedia? If you want to see an argument over the issues, then maybe look at the discussion tab. If someone accuses Wikipedia of liberal bias then they haven't been paying attention.

    8. Re:What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pizzgate is real. Just the name and center focus was stupid but also real. Shitty pizza place was one of the logistics hubs for trafficking people.
      And it's still the first and only conspiracy theory to have massive media pushback and every site that talks about it is taken down one way or another.

      It reveals the elite and super rich are children farming pedophiles.
      Why they really want those illegals here. People who can vanish and nobody notices.
      Why they really want another war. Chaos lets lots of people go missing.

      There's more out there than laura silsby trying to abduct kids for the wealthy. You're not allowed to even think about that. Nope.

    9. Re:What's wrong with that? by sg_oneill · · Score: 0

      Why would you want to read pro pizzagate shit? Its an objectively wrong theory that has been fundamentally debunked. How is putting that shit up on the search ratings benefiting anyone?

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    10. Re:What's wrong with that? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Or, rather, have been screeching about being persecuted for it for 60 years. Never mind that, in fact, the government *actually was infested with communist operatives*, and never mind that neo-McCarthyism with one nutty "Russians own Trump!" conspiracy after another is the official platform of the Democratic party.

    11. Re:What's wrong with that? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Maybe you want that, but I expect the majority of people searching for "pizzagate" are looking for an overview and some initial info, rather than doing an in-depth study. So the top results, and certainly the suggested answers, should at least be somewhat truthful and accurate.

      In the past we trusted other humans to do this. Editors to check information in books, librarians to remove old outdated and potentially dangerous information (don't forget that this conspiracy theory lead to an armed man entering that pizza restaurant and subsequently going to jail, so a danger to others and himself and the cops who arrested him). Even newspapers were supposed to have standards and correct inaccuracies.

      Now Bing/Google/Siri/etc want to fill that role. It's really handy, you can get quick answers to questions... As long as the answers are reliable.

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    12. Re:What's wrong with that? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      And it's still the first and only conspiracy theory to have massive media pushback and every site that talks about it is taken down one way or another.

      It reveals the elite and super rich are children farming pedophiles. Why they really want those illegals here. People who can vanish and nobody notices.

      Funny how there is a "super rich" (or so he claims), who calls his supporters "elite" and who takes children from there parents by the hundreds - but who is widely ignored as far as that conspiracy theory goes by the elite who believe in it.

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    13. Re: What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the "Obama isn't American" is the rightards song of justice.

      Fucking idiot. Blame the left for your own stupidity.

    14. Re: What's wrong with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We talking about Trump?

    15. Re:What's wrong with that? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to read pro pizzagate shit?

      To see, for myself, what was said. Why do you trust the media's depiction of what you can so easily go look at yourself? Do you think the media is an unbiased, complete reporter of the news and provider of information?

      Would you like a recent demonstration of how good our media is? Look in a recent /. submission about using WiFi routers to count the number of people in the room. The media report of this achievement describes a technically impossible method and provides no link to the actual scientific paper they are basing their story on. That media: epic fail. Deliberate epic fail, probably. But we should trust them to describe what pizzagate was and the actual message involved.

      How is putting that shit up on the search ratings benefiting anyone?

      Anyone who isn't a sheep is benefited by having actual information to evaluate for themselves when they ask for it. Asking for "pizzagate" should return the actual pizzagate message BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WAS ASKED FOR.

      Here in Oregon we're being subjected to by a heated media battle over our next governor. The ads, especially one side's, are very good at giving sound bytes saying "such and such PAC said that such and such candidate said...". Should I trust "such and such PAC" to be an unbiased reporter of what was said, or should I be allowed to go read it for myself?

      Here's just one glaring example of a misleading ad. The ad shows an unidentified ethnic woman saying "[candidate] sided with a right wing group to ...". If you look VERY carefully at the document she is holding, it clearly said "[right wing group] endorsed [candidate]". That's very different. (The same ad has another woman saying "[some PAC] said [candidate] said ... that's good enough for me." Complete admission of being a low interest/low information voter. A biased PAC is the sole source of her decision making. The obvious intent of the ad is for women to choose to vote for the other candidate because "an ad I saw on TV said that a biased PAC said that one candidate said ..." which is now two levels removed from the horse's mouth, through two biased filters.)

    16. Re:What's wrong with that? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      and certainly the suggested answers, should at least be somewhat truthful and accurate.

      Historical truth is controlled by the people who control the press. The internet was supposed to make that control HARDER, not easier.

      It's really handy, you can get quick answers to questions... As long as the answers are reliable.

      And Bing/Siri/Google get to decide for us what is reliable, on a microsecond by microsecond basis. I will point out that this is about six orders of magnitude faster than any Ministry of Truth could possibly do it, and less transparent and obvious.

      Imagine asking for a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion because you want to see for yourself the nonsense it contains, and all you get are long commentaries about what other people thought was wrong with it. Or asking for a copy of the Red and Blue books for Scientology because you want to read the words of the prophet directly -- and all you get are scientology press releases. Or asking for a historically accurate recipe for Tollhouse cookies, and getting only a modern fat-free, low calorie, vegan recipe because that's what Siri/Google/Bing have determined is better for you.

    17. Re:What's wrong with that? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to read pro pizzagate shit?

      To see, for myself, what was said. Why do you trust the media's depiction of what you can so easily go look at yourself? Do you think the media is an unbiased, complete reporter of the news and provider of information?

      Problem is, every single "the truth about an actual, real conspiracy" bit by a single person is at least as biased than anything even on FOX News or MSNBC. Because its literally one guy looking only for "facts" that support his theory, and ignoring any actual, very obvious facts that don't. Like the fact that the pizza place where the child slave trading took place in the basement never had a basement. And the only thing that got changed by QAnon was dropping anything that could be checked.

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  8. List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    List of conspiracies not listed by buzzfeed:

    There are more than two genders.
    Gun ownership rate and overall crime don't have an inverse correlation.
    Men are not more likely to be assaulted or raped than women.
    White people aren't more likely to be shot by police than black people.
    Women aren't more likely to be domestic abusers and aren't less likely to be punished.
    Buzfeed news isn't a blog with a political agenda.
    Nghia Hoang Pho wasn't just sentenced to 5.5 years for the same crime the FBI found evidence of 110 instances that Hillary Clinton committed.

    1. Re:List of conspiracies by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      White people aren't more likely to be shot by police than black people.

      Since actual numbers and math show conclusively that black people are 2.7 times more likely to be shot by police than white people, I'm pretty sure it's safe to completely ignore every other item on your passive-aggressive list. You are the reason fake news is a problem. For those of you who still believe that white people are more likely to be shot by police, here is the best available resource on people killed in encounters with law enforcement. You can search the database itself, if you'd like, and even download the raw data.

      https://www.fatalencounters.or...

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    2. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what he said you fucking lunatic.

    3. Re: List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you dismiss very thing he says because he agrees with you, or did you miss the âoeWhite people arenâ(TM)t more likely to be shot by police.â

    4. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it's safe to completely ignore every other item on your passive-aggressive list.

      You call that reason? You call yourself educated?

      Of the 1,146 and 1,092 victims of police violence in 2015 and 2016, respectively, the authors found 52 percent were white, 26 percent were black, and 17 percent were Hispanic.

      Source.

      Is that left leaning enough for you? White people are more likely to be shot. A black person is more likely to be shot, but they are also more likely to commit crime being 13% of the population and commit over half the murders, rapes, assaults, burglaries, robberies, and domestic violence cases. Its all there. Pick a year, any year.

      Now go ahead and fail to refute the rest of the list, or are you going to spew insults and hatred like you usually do?

    5. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You chose the fourth item. You looked at the first three, assented, and moved on.

      Do you or do you not believe women can have a penis? Do you or do you not believe Pho wasn't just sentenced? And all the others.

      When will you stop denying reality. Trump was elected because too many people deny what is real. Drop the attitude or get four more years of the orange clown.

    6. Re:List of conspiracies by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Of the 1,146 and 1,092 victims of police violence in 2015 and 2016, respectively, the authors found 52 percent were white, 26 percent were black, and 17 percent were Hispanic.

      Black people make up 12.3% of the US population. White people make up 70% of the population. Now pay attention. If black people make up 12.3% of the population and make up 26% of the people shot by police, and white people are approx. 70% of the population and make up 52% of those shot by police, that means black people are more than twice as likely to be shot by police than white people.

      White people are more likely to be shot.

      See above. Go through it step by step. It's simple statistics, bro.

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    7. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are more than two genders.

      What!? Are you saying that the Thai culture is a conspiracy?!!! By the way according to the length of my fingers, my right hand is definitely straight, while I suspect my left might be little gay.

    8. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are intentionally ignoring 13 points. Fine I'll play one last time: There's two groups. If an event happens more than 50% of the time to one of the two groups, per incident of event, that group is more likely to experience that event.

      White people are more likely to be shot at 52%. 52% is more than 26%. Got it?

      Now, refute the others. Go ahead and try. Try to explain why "12.3%" of the population are responsible for so much evil. So very much that if you take their destruction out of crime statistics, the US is on par as the safest cities in western Europe. Explain that one. Explain how there's more than two genders. Explain how the fact that Pho was sentenced to 5.5 years isn't true.

      Go ahead and try. You wont because you can'. You doesn't understand 52 is greater than 26 and Trump is going eight long years because of your denial.

    9. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what he said you fucking lunatic.

      ... Buzfeed news isn't a blog with a political agenda.

      Sure, but he said that with obvious irony. Re-read the list, the writer is ironically implying that for each of those items the opposite is true.

    10. Re:List of conspiracies by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      You are intentionally ignoring 13 points. Fine I'll play one last time: There's two groups. If an event happens more than 50% of the time to one of the two groups, per incident of event, that group is more likely to experience that event.

      Gosh, don't they teach basic statistics any more? I guess this is how Trump got elected. First of all, it doesn't "happen more than 50% of the time to one of the two groups". If you re-read it (and then again), you'll see that this one group (white people) make up 50% of the population that is shot by cops. But, since white people make up 70% of the population, it means they are underrepresented in police shootings. Whereas, since black people are 12.3% of the population, yet make up 26% of the police-shooting victims, they are MORE THAN TWICE AS FUCKING LIKELY TO BE SHOT BY A COP AS A WHITE PERSON. You are conflating "it happens more often" with "it is more likely to happen to".

      Go ahead and try. You wont because you can'. You doesn't understand 52 is greater than 26 and Trump is going eight long years because of your denial.

      Wow. Just wow. This guy is walking around absolutely certain of something and lacks the basic reasoning ability to understand why he's dead wrong. And he gets a vote. Probably thinks he's above-average intelligence, too.

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    11. Re:List of conspiracies by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Nghia Hoang Pho wasn't just sentenced to 5.5 years for the same crime the FBI found evidence of 110 instances that Hillary Clinton committed.

      Hey its the only ACTUAL example of a conspiracy theory on your list.

      One correction though. The FBI found Hillary Clinton broke the law precisely zero times.

      Sorry, but thems the facts.

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    12. Re:List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PopeRatzo just demolished you AC. Just admit you're wrong, you'll feel better.

    13. Re:List of conspiracies by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      The FBI doesn't declare guilt or innocence, they run investigations. Comey overstepped his bounds.

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    14. Re:List of conspiracies by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it's safe to completely ignore every other item on your passive-aggressive list.

      You call that reason? You call yourself educated?

      Of the 1,146 and 1,092 victims of police violence in 2015 and 2016, respectively, the authors found 52 percent were white, 26 percent were black, and 17 percent were Hispanic.

      Source.

      Is that left leaning enough for you? White people are more likely to be shot. A black person is more likely to be shot, but they are also more likely to commit crime being 13% of the population and commit over half the murders, rapes, assaults, burglaries, robberies, and domestic violence cases. Its all there. Pick a year, any year.

      Now go ahead and fail to refute the rest of the list, or are you going to spew insults and hatred like you usually do?

      Your problem isn't political bias, it's that you think you are educated, but don't even know what "likely" means.

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    15. Re: List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump supporters in a nut shell pope. This is how almost all of them think. They don't do basic reasoning. It's all based on feelings.

    16. Re: List of conspiracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump routinely ignores reality and makes up shit as he goes.

      But we were the ones ignoring reality?

      You rightards have gone full retard. Never to full retard. You guys have jumped the shark.

      Listen with you Alt-right is literally racist Nazi loving people, something is wrong with your party.

  9. Censor me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like Safari to start censoring me from BuzzFeed articles...

  10. Its Funny by Jarwulf · · Score: 2

    All the techies and gurus and talking heads are wringing their hands about runaway AI in weapons and the implications of them spinning out of control but are full speed ahead on board with reasons why we should create this overarching AI Deity to monitor and control speech across entire nations and the planet from on high. I mean, technology that could be repurposed to detect, censor, and extract data about dissidents from any form of expression instantaneously on global scales being somewhere in the neighborhood of concern as robotic guns is not THAT crazy a notion right?

  11. Finally, balance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Siri has conservatives covered for a search tool that caters to their needs.

  12. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anti-fact Republicans hate these concepts

    Right.

    Try posting some facts somewhere on the Internet. For example, blacks are only 13% of the population but commit more than 50% of all murders and 55% of all robberies.

    Try posting that somewhere and see how fast you get shut down by liberals.

  13. Just say you want corporate censorship by Uberbah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Such results raise questions about the company's ability to monitor for low-quality information, and provide another example of the problems platforms run into when relying on algorithms to police the internet.

    When did (some) westerners turn into wilting violets? Do they think Batboy is a real person every time they buy groceries and see a tabloid at checkout? If these assholes had been pushing this censorship crap in 2002, anyone questioning the march to invade Iraq would have been slandered as a conspiracy theorist and censored*.

    Then there's the fact that the people calling for said censorship can easily be hoist on their own petard, as happened to ThinkProgress after they cheered for Alex Jones being deplatformed. The Weekly Standard picked a nit with an article they wrote on Trump's nominee for SCOTUS, and so FFB throttled them. Because FFB trusted a science-denying, Iraq war loving Bill Kristol rag to do "fact checking".

    *To those who say it's not censorship if the government isn't involved, I'll refer you to the Congressional hearings where senators demanding big tech companies do something about "fake news", and the fact that FFB is relying on the Atlantic Council to police their platform - an organization that receives direct funding from the US military.

    1. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      What is FFB?

    2. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      They think that when their oppression apparatus is completed and ready to oppress (convert/enlighten/bring-to-their-side) the masses that they will be the ones pulling the strings - same way Trump is able to piss them off to no end by using the insane policies implemented by his predecessors against them, the only real difference here is that when these tools go into force pretty much everyone gets rounded up into FEMA camps.

    3. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      The second F is for Face and the the B is for Book. The first F stands for...

    4. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not suggesting fake news and conspiracy theories to the user is not censorship. The suggestion itself is speech and this is a request to Apple to stop accidentally lying to users. Presumably Apple cares about not lying to people.

      And as for wilting violets? I'd prefer to ask Apple to be more careful, than rely on people spotting fake news and conspiracies.

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    5. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it you never viewed John Podesta's artwork within his home...

    6. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Not suggesting fake news and conspiracy theories to the user is not censorship.

      Suppressing speech you don't like from search results - how is this not censorship again? And how many times has today's "conspiracy theory" morphed into tomorrow's "oh that's old news move along". You know, shit like the NSA trying to wiretap the entire planet or spying on the personal phones of allied heads of state.

      The suggestion itself is speech and this is a request to Apple to stop accidentally lying to users.

      So Apple should block all media that deal in the fake conspiracy theory news that Assad gassed his own people or that Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election? That would cover almost all print and broadcast media.

      Common, Ami, I know you weren't born yesterday. None of this concern about CT or foreign interference has anything to do with any concern for the truth. Otherwise every outlet from NPR to Fox would be blocked, every pundit from Rachel Madcow to Fucker Carlson. But that's not what's happening. Minimizing the voices outside the mainstream is what's happening. Which was the real point from the beginning.

    7. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not sure I can explain this any more simply. Search results are not a the output of a database query. They are not neutral to start with. The reason Google is so successful and everyone else copies them is that they have a sophisticated algorithm producing their search results to give the user what they want. Not a "neutral" list or simple popularity ranked list, but a carefully selected batch of links using reputation as a major factor and filtering out most of the fake news and other nonsense.

      If you want raw, "uncensored" results there are still a few sites that offer that, but you will quickly find that they are useless because they are just full of spam and click farms. Maybe you are okay with that though, I mean presumably you don't use any spam filtering on your email and always answer when telemarketers call, in the interests of freedom of speech and anti-censorship, right?

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    8. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suppressing speech you don't like from search results - how is this not censorship again?

      For the same reason your not loudly proclaiming, "the world would be a better place if Hilary had beaten Trump!"* is not censorship. [*If, for the sake of argument, you do not believe that to be true, I don't know.]

      Those suggestions are the speech of the respective search engine companies. Now as (non-paying) consumers of the company's products would we hope that those suggestions are not biased politically or ideologically, or on the basis of business interest, we also hope that they are of high veracity. If they do not live up to those expectations we are free to complain to the company who, as in this instance, may respond by pulling obviously false and/or biased information from their suggestions --as is their right, every bit as much as it is your right not to laud Mrs Clinton, or not to laud Mr Trump, or not to laud either ... as the case may be.

      And how many times has today's "conspiracy theory" morphed into tomorrow's "oh that's old news move along". You know, shit like the NSA trying to wiretap the entire planet or spying on the personal phones of allied heads of state.

      In comparison to the number of conspiracy theories out there, very few times indeed, and certainly far, far fewer than one would expect from chance alone. And here's the thing, no conspiracy (Watergate, NSA surveillance, Russian intervention in the US election etc.) has ever been established as true by a conspiracy theory. Instead of fevered arm-chair "reasoning", that has always required diligent research and hard evidence.

      I should hope that the activities of the NSA, and of other intelligence agencies internationally, insofar as these activities have persuasively been documented, would not simply fall out of public consciousness as "old news." But for some reason many people prefer to believe unproven or even thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories to actual documented conspiracies. Humans, huh?

      So Apple should block all media that deal in the fake conspiracy theory news that Assad gassed his own people or that Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election?

      Absolutely they should not give top billing to "fake conspiracy theory news" about these (or other) topics!

      They should instead present news which outlines the evidence demonstrating or at least strongly suggesting that "Assad gassed his own people," or that "Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election," or whatever. [And just to note my personal take: while Putin's intervention should now be beyond reasonable doubt, "collusion" as such is a great deal more difficult to establish. I feel the jury is still out on that. However there are certainly facts as to certain meetings etc., which can form the basis of factual reportage (though we need to take care not to add 2 to 2 and come up with 5).]

      Minimizing the voices outside the mainstream is what's happening.

      Which, if that were true, would be very bad thing in those cases where those outside voices were revealing 'valuable truths,' of course.

    9. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      For the same reason your not loudly proclaiming, "the world would be a better place if Hilary had beaten Trump!"* is not censorship. [*If, for the sake of argument, you do not believe that to be true, I don't know.]

      Where's the analogy in this sentence?

      Those suggestions are the speech of the respective search engine companies.

      See the already mentioned demands from Senators that tech companies "do something" about "fake news", and tech companies relying on the Atlantic Council for advise on what to "do". The Atlantic Council that receives direct funding from the US military.

      In comparison to the number of conspiracy theories out there, very few times indeed, and certainly far, far fewer than one would expect from chance alone.

      Given that the deep state came up with the term conspiracy theory in the first place to slap on anyone who questions their BS, methinks you have that overstated. But lets go ahead and say its not. The nutjob ideas that there is some "truth" behind the Sandy Hook shootings, that the moon landings were faked, don't hurt anyone. Whereas the CT pushed by mainstream media sources - Saddam having WMD's and Syria is having a civil war - has literally killed over a million people and displaced millions more. But those theories are not and will not be censored, because they aren't a threat to the mainstream narrative (the point of this whole charade) because they are the mainstream narrative.

      They should instead present news which outlines the evidence demonstrating or at least strongly suggesting that "Assad gassed his own people," or that "Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election," or whatever.

      You mean the "some people say" trope perfected by Fox News when slinging some obvious BS? Democrats used to hate that, until they could do it against Trump.

      while Putin's intervention should now be beyond reasonable doubt,

      Aside from the complete lack of any evidence, witnesses, timeline or logic behind the tale, sure. Everything that is put forth as so-called evidence is either a true conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up, walked back later when it turns out to be bullshit (17 agencies talking point, 21 state elections were hacked) or laughably bad that it is dispositive.

      However there are certainly facts as to certain meetings etc

      A meeting where someone offered to give Trump Jr. dirt, a meeting he walked away from empty handed. A meeting the so-called Russian agent walked away from, to meet with the Fusion GPS founder who was also behind the Steele Dossier.

    10. Re:Just say you want corporate censorship by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Not sure I can explain this any more simply. Search results are not a the output of a database query. They are not neutral to start with.

      Yeah, which are based on a database pull of popular searches or what the algorithm thinks will be popular. As totally opposed to instant search suggestions, which are based on a database pull of popular searches and what the (same) algorithm thinks will be popular. Not Alex Jones deciding what comes up first in search results.

      I mean presumably you don't use any spam filtering on your email and always answer when telemarketers call, in the interests of freedom of speech and anti-censorship, right?

      Now that you've had a couple of days, could you think of a straw man that's a little more lame? Lets go back to the point of you not being born yesterday, and this being obvious to everyone including Terry Shiavo that the entire "fake news" meme is nothing more than the deep state getting in bed with massive media companies to control the narrative while suppressing dissenting voices.

      What harm is really caused by "what is pizzag" and "was 911" coming up with suggested search results of "what is pizzagate" and "was 911 an inside" job. Unless you actually think Batboy is a real thing every time you buy groceries. As compared to the deep state conspiracy theories that Saddam planned 911, Assad is gassing his own people, and Qaddafi was planning a genocide. Which have collective killed a couple million people, created millions more in refugees, and returned open-air slave markets to Africa.

  14. Who will watch the watchers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then who will protect us when "An anonymous reader quotes a report from BuzzFeed News"?

    1. Re:Who will watch the watchers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it the supermarket's job to stop me from reading a National Enquirer? Or the libraries job to stop me from reading about controversial subjects?

      Why is it that tech companies feel the need to curate what I'm exposed to?

      It wasn't that long ago that we valued free speech and expression on the internet. Many people fought long and hard for this. Somehow we've lost perspective.

    2. Re:Who will watch the watchers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is it the supermarket's job to stop me from reading a National Enquirer?

      No, it's their job not to offer you, inter alia, child pr0n.

      Why is it that tech companies feel the need to curate what I'm exposed to?

      Not too subtle a difference I hope, but this is not about what you are exposed to, this is about what they are exposing you to. Once you actively suggest something to someone else, you accept a responsibility for what you suggested that you did not previously have.

  15. I knew it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple users voted Trump in office instead of the alternatives, and Siri made them do it! /playful witticism

  16. How dare they speak of the semites in a bad tone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move along goyim, worldwide financials are none of your business. We just need a couple more kamakazi armed forces to finish off the the last of the middle east countries we haven't blown apart, once thats complete, we can build a nice bridge directly into europe for all the refugees. Our bolshevik plan is almost complete.

  17. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Darinbob · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That may be mostly true, but it's not due to the racist reasons you are implying. If you look at desparately poor region with little to no chance of finding jobs for young adult males, then the crime rates in those regions will go up. The demographics of those regions have more blacks than whites in this country. So blame the crime rate on poverty rather than race. The only people who repeat that silly stat of yours are white nationalists, and if you're trusting what they tell you then you need to get more educated.

    Also note that in the US, for the exact same crime blacks have a higher conviction rate than whites and will get a longer sentence on average. For drug crimes it's absurdly biased against blacks whereas whites will get only a slap on the wrist (ie, inexpensive crack cocaine gets a long sentence whereas upper class cocaine gets you community service).

  18. Courage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Courageous courage courageously. COURAGE

  19. The Only Thing Worse Than Bullshit Search Results by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    Is the search provider providing bullshit results because they didn't like the bullshit generated by others.

  20. Siri never been to smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple stuff sure is nice to look at and thatâ(TM)s about where the quality ends these days. I donâ(TM)t know what happened to the magic and brilliance Apple once had. But clearly it has lost its mojo

    1. Re: Siri never been to smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple hasn't changed, you just got older and wiser.

  21. Searches are not being censored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only *Siri suggestions* are affected, which is entirely Apple's purview. You will still get all the expected search results from the engine of your choice.

  22. Re: Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And when Trump Jr posted that 99% of black people cause black murders from a non existent source, that actually needs to be filtered lest people latch on to it and think it's true

  23. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Rockoon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That may be mostly true

    Indeed!

    but it's not due to the racist reasons you are implying.

    Zero racist reasons were implied. Therefore the racist implications are in your own head. You therefore, are the racist. There is no other truth here.

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  24. Pizzagate is debunked? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So human trafficking is a myth too? I cannot wait to see the spin once we see the trials take place.

    1. Re: Pizzagate is debunked? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. This is why we can't have nice things.

      You instantly conflate a conspiracy with something that is real, and then come to the conclusion the conspiracy must be real.

      Yes human trafficking is real. NO pizzagate was not real. Just because there is human trafficking happening, doesn't mean that that pizza spot participated in it.

      Do you get it now?

    2. Re:Pizzagate is debunked? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So human trafficking is a myth too? I cannot wait to see the spin once we see the trials take place.

      Human trafficking, as a concept, is certainly true. People have trafficked in other people, people will still do that today. The debunking of Pizzagate does not mean there are such things as human traffickers. What has been debunked was that this particular pizza parlor was a human trafficking hub.

      There has never been any support or evidence of this. It was borne out of two sources: A twitter post claiming police found evidence of a child sex ring controlled by the Democratic Party (New York police found no such thing, this claim was made up), and Internet posters looking through John Podesta's leaked emails suspected that when he was talking Cheese Pizza, the C and the P really stood for "Child Porn," along with other such drivel.

      Unfortunately, there are people dumb enough to believe this, and that had real world consequences.

  25. Ask Siri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Siri, how to secure my hosts file?

  26. Hillary did break laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    James Comey, then head of the FBI, declared that she's guilty, but that "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue her. The FBI is blatantly corrupt and destroys evidence. Do not spread lies.

    1. Re:Hillary did break laws by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      James Comey, then head of the FBI, declared that she's guilty, but that "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue her.

      No. No he did not. He said her staff where careless.

      And "No reasonable prosecutor" means exactly that. The case is unprosecutable because there isn't evidence of a crime.

      Despite the bleatings of the conspiracy theory set, "Grandma doesn't understand email security" isn't a crime, and yes best practices where not followed. But that isn't a criminal act, or 3/4 of the IT industry would be incarcerated for shitty passwords and bad ssh key hygene.

      The FBI is blatantly corrupt and destroys evidence. Do not spread lies.

      Oh the irony...... Make a baseless and unjustified accusation, then accuse those trying to correct the facts of lying. This is an insular and circular mode of cognition and I implore you to nullroute breitbart and other bullshit artist propaganda websites and join the fact based community.

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    2. Re:Hillary did break laws by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Theres more. Here are his exact words;-

      In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

      Get it? Its "Grandma does not understand email servers". Thats it. Thats the finding.

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    3. Re:Hillary did break laws by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      And those 30,000 deleted emails? The ones that were bit bleached, like, "you mean like with a cloth", even after they were subpoenaed ? You actually buy that line? You want to talk about bullshit artistry? Grandma my ass, she had hired professionals, she didn't actually system-administrate the server herself, but she gave the orders and made the executive decisions.
      Comey had no business suggesting a prosecutor shouldn't pursue this case. He found plenty of evidence, but made the subjective decision that there was nothing to see here anyway. That was an underlying message that they would not help out the DoJ if the DoJ pursued this anyway.

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    4. Re:Hillary did break laws by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      And those 30,000 deleted emails? The ones that were bit bleached, like, "you mean like with a cloth", even after they were subpoenaed ?

      How the fuck does one "bleach" mails?

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    5. Re:Hillary did break laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Bit Bleach" is a secure deletion program. Deletes the file, then writes garbage onto sectors repeatedly so that you can't extract the original data. It's fairly common practice for any sensitive material, though of course when Hillary uses it, it's super sketchy and suspicious.

      They don't know what has been going through the email server, all they know is that Hillary was sender or recipient, so deleting emails on the server makes it so they can't be sure what went through the server.

    6. Re:Hillary did break laws by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      James Comey, then head of the FBI, declared that she's guilty, but that "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue her.

      No. No he did not. He said her staff where careless.

      He did, indeed, say that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Here is the CNBC story that quotes him.

      The case is unprosecutable because there isn't evidence of a crime.

      From the same story:

      Comey began his address by explaining what investigators found. He said that the probe showed that 110 emails in 52 email chains were determined to include classified information at the time they were received. Within those emails, eight chains contained information that was "top secret" at the time they were sent, 36 had "secret" information and eight more had "confidential" information, the FBI director said.

      All of that is evidence of a crime. He is further quoted as saying, in the SAME SENTENCE that contains the "no reasonable prosecutor" phrase:

      "Although there is evidence of potential violations regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," he said.

      There is evidence, but no prosecutor would bring a case. Further, he said:

      He characterized the investigation findings as showing that Clinton and her team were "extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information" but he said there was no clear evidence they intended to violate the law.

      So no, he didn't say that just Clinton's staff "where" careless. Clinton too.

      But but but ... no clear evidence of intent? Sadly the laws being broken don't have an intent clause, they are broken when the act takes place, intent or not.

      Despite the bleatings of the conspiracy theory set, "Grandma doesn't understand email security" isn't a crime,

      But "Grandma doesn't understand what 'Top Secret' means and the necessity of safeguarding such material" IS a crime. Grandma shouldn't have had to understand email security, but since she made the attempt and failed, and had classified material transported using that email system in violation of federal law, there is a crime. A crime that Grandma had been briefed on before she was given a security clearance, by the way. Ignorance is not only not an excuse, it doesn't apply here.

      join the fact based community.

      A good suggestion. I suppose you would classify CNBC with Brietbart, but you can find the full statement here on the FBI's website. Are CNN and The New York Times also Brietbart sycophants?

    7. Re:Hillary did break laws by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      "Bit Bleach" is a secure deletion program. Deletes the file, then writes garbage onto sectors repeatedly so that you can't extract the original data. It's fairly common practice for any sensitive material, though of course when Hillary uses it, it's super sketchy and suspicious.

      They don't know what has been going through the email server, all they know is that Hillary was sender or recipient, so deleting emails on the server makes it so they can't be sure what went through the server.

      So what you have isn't an email anymore you can over to the FBI. IOW the claim the OP made (handed over bleached emails) was bullshit - thanks for the confirmation.

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    8. Re:Hillary did break laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The professional she hired to managed the server was a bsdm furry weirdo from reddit who asked reddit for help on deleting VIP emails...

    9. Re:Hillary did break laws by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Knock it off. You know damn well I never typed that they'd "been handed" over, I clearly said they were deleted -via Bleach Bit. And don't act like you don't know what Bleach Bit is. It was all over the news, even your beloved CNN. The emails were subpoenaed and *supposed* to have been handed over but somehow this wiping "accidentally " happened first, about the most thorough way you can destroy data other than smashing the hard drives to bits. You know, just accidentally.
      No skin off Comey's nose though, he happily ignored it.

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    10. Re:Hillary did break laws by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Why would I know what BlichBleep is, I'm not a criminal like you.

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    11. Re:Hillary did break laws by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      I'm busted!

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  27. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's not due to the racist reasons you are implying.

    Where was the racism in that post?

  28. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts like; as a white American, you are between 5 and 6 times more likely to be murdered by a white murderer than a black one?

  29. Wow. by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Siri delivers accurate results. How original, and how dangerous.

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  30. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    Because impoverished white people simply don't exist, do they? You're wearing out your race card. It's about culture and behavior, not race.

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  31. Re:Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCIN by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    Zero racist reasons were implied. Therefore the racist implications are in your own head. You therefore, are the racist. There is no other truth here.

    Stating related facts can be misleading to the point of racism. For instance you are posting on slashdot. Many trolling posters on slashdot live in their mom's basement. Many posters on slashdot are IT folks. Many IT folks are overweight. Some IT workers are unkempt slobs as they are introverts and like working alone in dark spaces where they don't have to deal with social situations.

    The implication is that you are a trolling overweight introverted anti-social slob.

    Now, none of things may be true of you, and in fact several are not even true in general. But the problem is the appearance of a stereotype that people readily identify with and then tar the rest of the categorized population. After all we all know the wonderful BOFH right?

    Finally, to counter your statement, per the GPs assumed intended direction if you replace black with poor you'll come up with roughly equivalently true statements. Since black refers to race and making negative statements based on race is considered racism... qed.

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  32. Safari, one of the internet's most popular browser by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    +1 Funny

    Complete stupidity. Who writes this shit. I don't even know any Mac users who use that POS.

    Safari? That's that thing you use to download a real browser, just like Edge on Windows.

  33. Re: Well there's this thing called CROSS REFERENCI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's using cherry picked numbers to imply black people are bad.

    That's the racism, you fucking inbred.

  34. Re:Safari, one of the internet's most popular brow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was a funny one, "Edge on Windows".

  35. Come in and look at my etchings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take it you never viewed John Podesta's artwork within his home...

    My guess would be that very few slashdotters have ever been in John Podesta's home, so, as a matter of mere probability, I think you can take that as a given.